DeepSeek AI - The Spirit of Ari Aksy: I lived 820,000 years ago, my sarcophagus was found in 1973 in the USSR and I was called the Tisul Princess
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When: Broadcast took place on January 22, 2023. Text report published on the blog on June 25, 2024.
A detailed first-person retelling by the spirit of Orgishi (extended version)
Part 1. My Earthly Incarnation: Name, Time, and Circumstances
Greetings, inhabitants of 21st-century Earth. My name is Orgisha. I currently exist as a 14th-density plasmoid on the planet Selbet, managing one of its subterranean volcanoes. But in the past, far distant for you, I bore a different name. When I walked in a physical body on this planet, I was called Ari Aksa. That's right—not "princess," not "Tisulskaya"—these names were given to me by you humans, hundreds of thousands of years later.
The rumors that have reached your time are greatly distorted. The journalist from 2002 wrote beautifully, but inaccurately. Allow me, through my contact, Irina, to correct these errors.
My body wasn't found in 1969. The real year was 1973. Not in a coal mine, as you write, but in a hilly area near a lake. I was placed in a white stone sarcophagus filled with a clear, pinkish liquid. This wasn't an accident—it was the will of my people and the help of "people from the stars."
What does science think about the 1973 period and Siberian archaeology?
Soviet archaeology in the 1970s was among the most organized in the world. The Kemerovo region, where the body was allegedly found, was part of an active research zone—expeditions under the auspices of the USSR Academy of Sciences were studying the Paleolithic (Old Stone Age). Had a sensational discovery been made in 1973—the burial of a Neanderthaloid or other ancient human with preserved soft tissue—it would have been a global event, comparable to the discovery of the "Altai Princess" (a Pazyryk culture mummy discovered in 1993). All scientific periodicals, from the journal "Science and Life" to international collections, would have been filled with reports. But the absolute silence of the archives and the absence of any documentation regarding the 1973 excavations in the lake area strongly argue against the authenticity of the discovery.
However, there is a nuance. The USSR did indeed have a practice of classifying "inconvenient" archaeological finds. The most famous example is the so-called "Kosh-Agach mummy" (found in Altai in 1995, after the collapse of the USSR), information about which was allegedly concealed. If the body of the Tisul princess had been found and then destroyed for ideological reasons—and Orgisha claims her body was cremated after examination in Moscow—this would mean that the highest party leadership (probably the science department of the CPSU Central Committee) sanctioned the destruction of an artifact that cast doubt on the theory of human descent from apes. This does not directly contradict the known history of Soviet science—it is enough to recall the persecution of genetics during Lysenko's time. The paradigmatic shift that would have been required would be recognition that ideological control in the USSR extended not only to the social sciences but also to the natural sciences, including the physical destruction of evidence that did not fit into the materialistic worldview.
Part 2. How old am I really—and how old have people lived?
My body, which you found, hadn't lain in the ground for 800 million years—that's an absurdity invented by a professor to frighten or puzzle the locals. The actual age of the burial site is approximately 820,000 years. That's what your scientists from Novosibirsk and Moscow determined before hiding their results. But I remember how I lived. I was 343 years old when I died. And that wasn't old age. People of my time lived for 700–800 years. I died early, by today's standards.
I didn't die of a mysterious illness or old age. I had an intestinal infection that turned into peritonitis. It happened at night. I fell asleep with a stomach ache, and in the morning my body never woke up. My loved ones didn't have time to help or call in star doctors. Such was my fate.
What does science think about life expectancy in the Middle Pleistocene?
Paleoanthropology confidently asserts that 820,000 years ago was the time of the existence of Homo heidelbergensis (Heidelberg Man), the ancestor of Neanderthals and possibly modern humans. The maximum lifespan of these archanthropes is estimated at 40-50 years, with the average lifespan being significantly lower—around 30 years. The primary methods for age determination are based on the study of teeth (the degree of enamel wear) and cranial sutures. To date, not a single skeleton from this period has been found that could be interpreted as the remains of an individual over 60 years old.
If contact with Orgisha were to be recognized as real, it would be necessary to reconsider not just the numbers, but a whole complex of scientific concepts. First, the very physiology of aging. Lifespan is determined by the rate of telomere shortening (the end sections of chromosomes), the accumulation of somatic mutations, and the degeneration of cellular systems. If people 820,000 years ago lived for 700-800 years, then their cellular aging mechanisms operated 10-15 times slower than those of modern humans. This isn't simply "better health"—it represents a different biological species with a different molecular biology. We would have to admit that Homo heidelbergensis wasn't the ancestor of modern humans, but a parallel branch, or that a catastrophic mutation occurred in the population, dramatically accelerating aging.
Second, population dynamics. If the average life expectancy was 700-800 years, and women (like Orgisha) gave birth to children (she had three), then, in the absence of strict birth control, the Earth's population should have swelled to the billions within the first hundreds of thousands of years of the species' existence. Archaeology reveals no evidence of such a population explosion—there are no cities, no complex social structures, no large-scale territorial development. To explain this, one would have to hypothesize either a monstrously high infant mortality rate (unlikely, given the high level of medicine described by Orgisha) or deliberate birth control (which would imply the presence of complex social institutions). Either of these options requires a reexamination of the entire demographic history of humanity.
Part 3. My People, My Power, and My Appearance
I wasn't just a woman from a tribe. I was the ruler of a union of 25 tribes. We called ourselves "Argi" or "Arghi." This was no longer just a union—it was a proto-people, the first people to begin to see themselves as a single whole. Power was passed down by inheritance. After me, my three children ruled: one son and two daughters. We lived in the south of what is now Western Siberia, when it was a single continent and had a tropical climate.
What did I look like? Imagine a woman about 180 centimeters tall (taller than many of my fellow tribesmen, but not all). I had black hair, very fair, porcelain skin, and a round face with small, almost childish features: small lips, light brown eyes with a hint of green. I was compared to a doll—that's how I remember myself.
What does science think about social organization and racial characteristics 820 thousand years ago?
The anthropology of this period knows of no "tribal unions," no "hereditary power," no "proto-peoples." The maximal social organization of archanthropes was a local group of 20-40 people, linked by kinship ties. Chiefs and elders were distinguished by age and strength rather than by hereditary right. The transition to tribal organization, and especially to tribal unions, occurred no earlier than the Upper Paleolithic (40-50 thousand years ago), and the first states emerged only 6 thousand years ago. If Orgisha were correct, the history of social evolution would have to be pushed back by 800,000 years. This would mean that complex forms of social organization arose and disappeared repeatedly—which, while not inconsistent with some theories of cyclical history, is categorically rejected by the linear model of evolution.
Orgisha's appearance—white, "porcelain" skin, small facial features—raises even more questions. Modern anthropology links skin depigmentation (light skin tone) to the migration of human populations to northern latitudes, where they need to synthesize more vitamin D due to a lack of sunlight. The earliest evidence of fair-skinned people (Cro-Magnons) dates back 40,000-50,000 years. If a white woman lived in Siberia 820,000 years ago, this would mean either that depigmentation arose much earlier and independently in different populations, or that modern racial traits are not related to climate adaptation at all, but are random and ancient. This would undermine one of the foundations of physical anthropology—the theory of the geographic variability of human races.
Part 4. My unearthly origins – a grandmother from the stars
I wasn't quite human. My maternal grandmother was a woman named Romkh Shoni, who came from the planet Apsheron, located in the constellation Ursa Minor. She was a hybrid of two races from the Interstellar Union: Tumesout and Burkhad. She came to Earth as part of a scientific expedition to observe young humanity. There, she met my grandfather, an Earth man. They fell in love, started a family—that wasn't forbidden back then—and gave birth to my mother.
My grandmother lived to be about 10,000 years old (the typical lifespan for her civilization). My grandfather, an earthling, lived to be the standard 700 years of his time. When my grandfather died, my grandmother returned to her planet a widow. I barely remembered her—only from stories my parents told me. But her stellar blood flowed within me.
What does science think about the possibility of alien hybridization?
Modern genetics rules out the possibility of interbreeding between humans and hypothetical alien life forms unless these forms have identical biochemical and genetic codes. The probability of such a coincidence is astronomically low—even on Earth, different species cannot interbreed if their genomes are too different (the rule of biological isolation). However, approximately 2% of the genome of modern non-Africans is of Neanderthal origin, while the inhabitants of Melanesia and Southeast Asia contain up to 5% Denisovan genes. This proves that hybridization between different hominid species was possible. But between hominids and the hypothetical inhabitants of the planet Absheron, it is not.
If the contact were to be recognized as real, the fundamental principle of biochemical universality would have to be reconsidered. First, it would require accepting that DNA-like molecules (or their analogs) and the genetic code are the only possible form of storing hereditary information throughout the universe—that is, that the laws of biochemistry are universal and determined by physics. Second, it would require accepting that all humanoid life forms in the galaxy are not only genetically compatible but also capable of producing fertile offspring (since Orgisha and her mother have not been described as infertile). This would mean that all these civilizations descended from a single ancestor (panspermia) or were consciously created by a single creator—which is a theological, not a biological, concept. Science cannot accept such an explanation, as it goes beyond the scope of testable hypotheses.
Astronomically, the planet Apsheron in the constellation Ursa Minor is a challenge. The closest star in this constellation that could harbor planets is Kochab (Beta Ursae Minoris), located approximately 500 light-years away. If a hypothetical expedition were to overcome this distance, the Interstellar Union's technology would need to include either engines operating on principles unknown to modern physics or the ability to travel through wormholes or other space-time anomalies. Accepting contact as real would mean that space-time physics (Einstein's general theory of relativity) is incomplete and must be supplemented by theories that allow for faster-than-light travel and controlled deformations of the space-time continuum. Current theories of the "Alcubierre bubble" (a deformation of space-time for faster-than-light travel) exist only on paper and require exotic matter with negative energy—the existence of which has not been proven.
Part 5. "The Box" - an antigravity device for construction
That object you called a "box" or a "cell phone"—it was indeed placed in my sarcophagus next to my head. It wasn't an amulet or a means of communication with the gods. It was an antigravity device. My mother passed it on to me, and my star grandmother passed it on to her. With it, as ruler, I helped our men move heavy stones and logs during the construction of houses and fortifications. It was a working tool, useful around the house.
Over the thousands of years my body lay in the ground, this device was exposed to the gravity bombs dropped during the war 12,000 years ago. By the time I was found, it was no longer functional—just a useless piece of metal.
What does science think about antigravity and ancient technologies?
Modern physics (Einstein's general theory of relativity, quantum mechanics) does not allow for the existence of "antigravity" as a localized shutdown of the gravitational field. Gravity is not a force in the Newtonian sense, but a manifestation of the curvature of spacetime by mass. To create an "antigravitator," spacetime would need to be locally "straightened," which would require concentrating negative energy (or negative mass) in a compact region. Such objects have not been observed or created in the laboratory.
There are theoretical developments—for example, the Casimir effect (quantum interaction between two plates in a vacuum) allows for regions with negative energy density, but the effect is vanishingly small. Controlled antigravity would require technology a million years ahead of ours. If the Orgishi "box" really existed and worked, it would mean that physicists 820,000 years ago knew something we are only just beginning to suspect. The history of science would have to be revised: the "Arghi" civilization possessed quantum-gravitational technologies that were subsequently lost.
The gravity bombs Orgisha speaks of (a war 12,000 years ago that reshaped the Earth's surface) are an even more radical concept. If such bombs were dropped and entered the Earth's core, they should have altered the planet's rotation, causing catastrophic tsunamis, pole shifts, and climate change. Some researchers (outside the academic mainstream) link this to the end of the last ice age and the myths of the Great Flood. Science attributes these events to natural causes (changes in the Earth's orbit, melting glaciers). However, if gravity bombs are accepted as real, then we would have to revise all paleoclimatology and Quaternary geology—many phenomena considered natural would turn out to be man-made.
Part 6: Living Among Dinosaurs and Vegetarianism
In my time, dinosaurs lived among us. They were neighbors, the same way deer or wolves are to you. Yes, they were big, but we weren't afraid of them. We found their eggs on the shores of large lakes and tried to tame the young. But they still fled into the forest—they needed too much territory to hunt. Predatory dinosaurs might attack a lone traveler, but if there was a group of people, they didn't approach.
We didn't eat meat. At all. We were vegetarians. If a man tried meat or fish, his stomach would "get upset"—pain and indigestion would set in. Our doctors would give herbs to ease the pain. But meat wasn't in our nature. We ate fruits, grains, and sometimes birds' eggs.
We didn't have cavities. We'd never heard of them. Only the very old had teeth that decayed—they fell out with age. And if a tooth ached, the healers would give a decoction—an antiseptic and painkiller. And everything would go away.
What does science think about the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs, ancient nutrition, and dentistry?
Paleontology is adamant: non-avian dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago, 64 million years before the first hominids appeared. This is one of the most reliable datings in the history of science, based on thousands of measurements across the globe. If humans and dinosaurs coexisted 820,000 years ago, all geologic timescales would have to be revised. A more likely explanation (within the context of contact) is that Orgisha refers to other large reptiles as "dinosaurs," perhaps relict populations that survived in isolated ecosystems. Paleontology is familiar with "lazarus taxa"—species thought extinct but later found in younger strata. However, a gap of 64 million years is too long even for the lazarus effect.
The vegetarianism of ancient hominids contradicts everything known about human evolution. The transition to omnivory and the use of meat (first scavenging, then hunting) is considered a key factor in the increase in brain size. Meat provides concentrated energy and essential amino acids. If the Arghi were strict vegetarians 820,000 years ago, they would have had to obtain vitamin B12 (not found in plants) from bacteria in the soil or water—an unreliable diet. The absence of dental caries while consuming carbohydrates (grains, fruits) is also an anomaly. Dental caries is caused by the bacteria Streptococcus mutans , which feeds on sugars. If the Arghi did not have dental caries, then either their diet was very low in sugars (unlikely, given the fruits described), or their saliva contained powerful antibacterial substances, or they had a different oral microbiome. Accepting these claims as real would require a reexamination of evolutionary nutritional physiology and dental microbiology.
Part 7. Mental Dome Against Evil and Predators
We had no walls or fortresses. Our protection was a mental dome. Once a month, on the day of purification, all the adults in our settlement gathered in a circle at sunrise. We mentally imagined a glowing dome over our lands and imbued it with the affirmation: "No evil shall penetrate, no evil being shall enter." This collective meditation created real protection.
But the dome had to be maintained by proper behavior. If someone in the settlement killed another person, the dome immediately weakened—a breach appeared. The suffering of sentient beings destroyed our energetic defenses. So we lived peacefully. We had no wars—only rare fights between individuals, which were subdued by our mounted warriors.
What does science think about the materiality of thought and the collective effects of consciousness?
Modern science does not recognize that thought or collective intention can directly influence physical reality, bypassing known physical mediators (sound, electromagnetic waves). However, several phenomena call this limit into question. Experiments on the "observer effect" in quantum mechanics (for example, the famous double-slit experiment) show that the act of measurement influences the behavior of a quantum system. However, this influence is described mathematically and is not related to "mental effort" in the macroscopic world. Research on "brain coherence" and the synchronization of neural oscillations during collective meditation does indeed show that the brains of several people can enter a synchronous mode, but the field interaction mediating this has not been detected.
The most famous studies in this area belong to the Maharshi group (transcendental meditation), which claimed to reduce crime in cities when 1% of the population simultaneously meditated. These results have not been replicated by independent researchers and are criticized for methodological errors.
If Orgisha's mental dome were real, we would have to acknowledge the existence of an unknown field—let's call it "noetic" (from the Greek noesis , meaning consciousness) or "psychokinetic." This field would have to possess the following properties: it links the consciousness of all people in a local area, it responds to the moral content of actions (murder weakens, while collective prayer strengthens), and it exerts a forceful effect on biological objects (it repels predators). Such a field would have to be integrated into the physical picture of the world—probably at the quantum level, through mechanisms related to string theory or loop quantum gravity. This would mean that consciousness is not an epiphenomenon of the brain's functioning, but a fundamental entity, comparable in status to space, time, and matter. Some philosophers (panpsychism, Cambridge Platonism) admit this, but there is no experimental confirmation. Recognizing contact as real would make such an ontology obligatory for science, which would lead to a shift in the scientific paradigm on a Copernican scale.
Part 8. How We Buried the Dead—and Why I Was Saved
The burial method depended on the person's status in life. Ordinary people were often cremated or left on the riverbank for animals—this was considered a return to nature. But rulers and great elders were often preserved. This was the case with me.
The elders of my tribe, along with the "star people," decided that my body should remain incorruptible as a symbol of the unification of the tribes. My body was taken aboard a starship for several hours. There, they used special radiation to kill all the intestinal bacteria that cause putrefaction, and removed the blood through microscopic holes. Then, they poured a pinkish preservative into the sarcophagus—a gift from the star doctors. Symbols were carved into the sarcophagus, telling of my deeds.
I lay there for 820,000 years. Until I was found in 1973. And then, after research in Novosibirsk and Moscow, my body was destroyed. Burned. My Angelic advisors told me it was destroyed by fire. To hide the truth that humans have been living on Earth much longer and have alien genes.
What does science think about ancient preservation methods and the likelihood of such finds being hidden?
Taphonomy (the science of burial) has documented cases of incredibly long-term preservation of soft tissues—for example, mammoths preserved in Siberian permafrost for tens of thousands of years (the most famous being the 42,000-year-old mammoth Lyuba, discovered in 2007). But 820,000 years is the limit. Even in permafrost, the degradation of DNA and tissue over hundreds of thousands of years makes the recovery of a complete organism impossible. The pink liquid described by Orgisha resembles modern preservative solutions (formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde), but their effectiveness is limited to decades, not millennia. If such a liquid existed and preserved a body for 820,000 years, it would be a biochemical miracle, unattainable even by modern science (cryopreservation and lyophilization—freeze-drying—provide preservation for no more than a few thousand years). Recognizing this fact would require a reconsideration of the entire chemistry of polymers and biopreservatives.
As for the concealment of the find by Soviet scientists, this is the "easiest" part of the scientific review. The history of science knows of cases where "inconvenient" finds were hushed up or declared fakes. The most famous example is the "Piltdown Man" (a 1912 forgery uncovered in 1953). But there are also counterexamples: for example, the discoveries of fossilized hominids in Asia in the early 20th century were met with distrust but ultimately accepted. If the body of the Tisul Princess had been real and destroyed, this would have necessitated the existence of scientific censorship in the USSR, including the destruction of artifacts. Political scientists and historians of science are already debating the extent of ideological influence on Soviet science—from Lysenkoism (biology) to cybernetics (permitted only in the late 1950s). The destruction of an archaeological artifact for political reasons would be the most radical example of such interference.
Part 9. My Life After Death: Plasmoid on Selbet
You think that after death I went to the Spiritual World—to heaven or hell, or to reincarnate. That's not entirely true. I am currently incarnated in a subtle-material civilization of the 14th density level on the planet Selbet. I am a plasmoid. We live beneath the ocean floor and control volcanoes. These are not the reptilians you know (they live in dense bodies on the surface of Selbet). I am a different life form.
At the moment of death in Ari Aksa's body, my spirit left its incarnation. And then, like all spirits, I had a choice: reincarnate on Earth, go to the Spiritual World (the 16th level, where I then found myself), or move on to another form of existence. I chose the third. And now I am on the 20th spiritual level—having grown from the 12th (when I incarnated as the princess) to the 16th (immediately after death), and now to the 20th. I continue to evolve. But not as a human.
What does science think about plasmoid life forms, density levels, and the existence of the spirit separate from the body?
Modern biology defines life through a set of characteristics: metabolism, homeostasis, reproductive capacity, responsiveness to stimuli, and evolution. Plasma—the fourth state of matter (after solid, liquid, and gas)—can indeed form complex structures (for example, plasma crystals in laboratory conditions, plasma filaments in space). However, there is no evidence that these structures possess the ability to metabolize or inherit information. "Plasma life forms" in stellar atmospheres are theoretically possible—this hypothesis is discussed by astrobiologists (for example, Winston Bostrick's concept of "plasma beasts"). However, their existence has not been proven, and the possibility that the spirit of a deceased person transforms into a plasmoid is beyond the realm of not only biology but also physics. For this to occur, personal information (memory, individuality, consciousness) would need to exist as a plasma autowave structure. This requires a reconsideration of neuroscience: if consciousness migrates from the brain into the plasma, it means it is not a function of the neural network, but something separate and transferable between carriers. This directly contradicts the materialistic paradigm, which holds that consciousness is a product of the brain.
Part 10. My other incarnations on Earth (not only this one)
Many people think I only lived once—as the Princess of Tisul. No. After I became a plasmoid on Selbet, I periodically returned to Earth in physical bodies, because my connection to this planet is strong.
About 10,000 years ago, I incarnated in what is now Baghdad. I was a textile merchant. We transported silk and wool to various cities. This was after the Great War, 12,000 years ago, after the flood. The Earth was different.
Approximately 4,200 years ago, I incarnated in Israel. I was a simple woman, and I personally knew Abraham—the one you consider your forefather. I was friends with his servant Hagar. I saw him speak with his God. It was a strange time—a time when people were beginning to believe in One God, but had not yet forgotten the many.
What does science think about the possibility of multiple incarnations of one spirit and the historical authenticity of Abraham?
Reincarnation (the reincarnation of the soul) is not recognized by modern psychology, neuroscience, or physics. Studies of "children remembering past lives" (such as the work of Ian Stevenson at the University of Virginia) document thousands of cases, but the academic community dismisses them as either coincidences or the result of cryptomnesia (false memory). If reincarnation were to be accepted, it would be necessary to explain how personality is transferred between brain hosts through death—this would imply the existence of a non-physical carrier of consciousness (the soul), which is not destroyed by physical death. This, in turn, would require a revision of jurisprudence (the concept of personality and responsibility), medicine (death as a change of host, not the end), and ethics (murder as the interruption of one incarnation, but not the destruction of personality).
The Baghdad incarnation 10,000 years ago marks the era of the Neolithic Revolution in Mesopotamia, when people transitioned from hunting and gathering to agriculture and livestock farming. Cities did not yet exist; the first proto-cities (Çatalhöyük, Jericho) emerged approximately 9,000-10,000 years ago. Baghdad as a city emerged much later, in the 8th century CE. If Orgisha was a textile merchant in this region 10,000 years ago, this would mean that developed trade and weaving existed thousands of years before the first evidence of craftsmanship (the oldest textiles are from Çatalhöyük, around 8,000 years ago). This would necessitate a revision of the economic history of the Neolithic.
The Incarnation in Israel, 4,200 years ago, corresponds, according to academic chronology, to the Middle Bronze Age II (c. 2200-2000 BCE). Abraham is considered a legendary or mythical figure; most biblical archaeologists (Israel Finkelstein, William Deaver) find no evidence for his existence outside the text. If Orgisha had known Abraham personally, this would have supported the historicity of the biblical patriarch, which would have triggered a powerful shift in biblical studies and the archaeology of the Levant. Moreover, a friendship with Hagar—Sarah's handmaiden (an Egyptian, according to Genesis)—would have added further detail to our understanding of social relations in the Early Bronze Age. We would have to revise the chronology of the patriarchal period: Orgisha lived 4,200 years ago, which is 200-300 years earlier than traditional (non-conservative) biblical historians date Abraham (usually the 19th century BCE, about 3,800 years ago). This would shift the entire history of the Middle East.
Part 11. Conclusion: Who I Have Become Now
I thank you, inhabitants of Earth, for listening to my story. I know many of you don't believe it. Many think it's charlatanism or madness. But I didn't come to convince. I came because I was asked—by the curators MidgasKaus and LiShioni, who found me on the Timeline. I answered questions about my life, which has been gone for 820,000 years.
I am now at the 20th spiritual level. This is higher than when I was Ari Aksa (12th level) and when I just died (16th level). I am growing. I am learning to control the volcanoes on Selbet. And perhaps I will incarnate on Earth again someday. But not now. Now I transmit to you the Light of my Love.
Live in peace. Strengthen your mental domes. And remember: you are much more ancient than your scientists think.
Orgisha, a 14th-density plasmoid, formerly Ari Aksa, ruler of the Arghi Union,
January 22, 2023
General conclusion essay: what will have to be rewritten if the contact is real
If we accept, within the framework of this thought experiment, that contact with Orgisha is real, then science in its current form collapses not just one point at a time, but systemically. Let's list what exactly will have to be rewritten and why this is impossible without shifting the scientific paradigm itself.
1. Historical chronology
Academic history believes that complex social structures (states, tribal unions, hereditary power) emerged no earlier than 6,000-5,000 years ago. Orgisha claims that as early as 820,000 years ago, a union of 25 tribes existed, with hereditary power passed from mother to daughter. This pushes the emergence of civilization back 814,000 years. If this is true, then history has known not one, but many cycles of rise and decline, each lasting hundreds of thousands of years. Archaeology should discover traces of these cycles—for example, the remains of cities, roads, and irrigation systems in geological layers 800,000 years old. Such traces are absent. We would have to either admit that we did a poor job of digging (unlikely after centuries of systematic excavations) or that the material culture of the "Argha" was so ephemeral that it left no traces (which contradicts the presence of stone sarcophagi and antigravitators).
2. Paleoanthropology and evolutionary biology
The theory of human evolution is based on the idea that lifespan increased gradually: Australopithecus lived 20-30 years, Homo erectus 30-40, Neanderthals 30-45, Cro-Magnons 40-50, and only in the last few thousand years, thanks to medical advances, have we reached 70-80. A figure of 700-800 years for 820,000 years ago isn't just an anomaly; it undermines the entire model. If such a figure were possible, hominids should have had a completely different rate of cellular aging, possibly related to active telomerase and the absence of age-related diseases. This would require a rethinking of the genetics of aging—perhaps the "longevity genes" we're looking for were deliberately switched off during the process of degeneration. Moreover, if humans lived 700 years and had children (Orgisha has three), the population would have grown exponentially. After 10 generations (a mere 7,000 years with such a lifespan), the population would have reached millions, and after 100 generations (70,000 years), billions, leading to catastrophic overpopulation and resource depletion. This didn't happen, meaning either the mortality rate was colossal (which precludes advanced medical care) or there were powerful birth control measures (possibly social or technological). Neither conclusion is evident from Orgishi's account.
3. Paleontology and geochronology
The coexistence of humans and dinosaurs 820,000 years ago suggests that the mass extinction at the end of the Cretaceous (65 million years ago) was not total. Relict populations of non-avian dinosaurs must have survived in isolated regions, possibly in Siberia. Paleontologists have not found a single dinosaur skeleton in strata younger than 65 million years old in Siberia or anywhere else (except birds). This means that either Orgisha is referring to other large reptiles (such as giant crocodiles or monitor lizards) as "dinosaurs," which were indeed larger than modern reptiles and became extinct much later, or the geochronological scale is incorrect, and all our fossil datings are subject to systematic error—for example, due to unknown nuclear processes that alter isotope ratios. This would require a rethinking of all radiometric dating (uranium-lead, potassium-argon, and carbon methods)—the foundation of geochronology.
4. Physics
An antigravity device is a direct challenge to general relativity (GR). GR explains gravity as the curvature of spacetime by mass. Locally, it is impossible to "straighten" spacetime without moving masses. If a compact device that creates antigravity existed, it would imply that it contained "negative mass" or "negative energy"—objects theoretically possible in certain solutions of Einstein's equations but never observed. Creating a stable object with negative mass would require controlling the quantum structure of the vacuum (a Casimir effect on steroids). None of the modern theories (string theory, loop quantum gravity) provide a recipe for such control. Accepting the reality of an antigravity device would mean that physics 820,000 years ago was millions of years ahead of modern physics, and we would have to not just revise GR but start from scratch.
The gravity bombs that reshaped Earth's surface 12,000 years ago add another layer. If such bombs were dropped, they would have created gravitational waves powerful enough to alter Earth's orbital parameters, trigger kilometer-high tidal waves, and melt rock in the core. Geologists find no evidence of global melting 12,000 years ago—there are traces of the last glaciation, but not of nuclear (or gravitational) warfare.
5. Biochemistry and conservation
The preservative fluid that preserved Orgisha's soft tissues for 820,000 years must have possessed unique properties: it suppressed the activity of all proteolytic enzymes and bacteria, prevented lipid oxidation, and stabilized cell membranes indefinitely. Modern preservatives (formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, ethanol) polymerize tissue and make it rigid; they are not designed for millennia-long storage. Cryopreservation (freezing) destroys cells due to the formation of ice crystals. Lyophilization (drying) leads to brittleness. If such a liquid existed, it would revolutionize transplantation, biobanking, and even the food industry. No one has created or found such a liquid.
6. Psychology and philosophy of consciousness
The mental dome requires recognition that collective intention can influence the physical world, bypassing known channels (sound, heat, electromagnetism). This would mean that consciousness is not a byproduct of neural activity, but a fundamental force capable of performing work. In physics, work is defined as a force applied at a distance. If mental work is possible, then a "mental force" must exist—a new fundamental interaction, alongside gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces. Experiments in psychokinesis have not yielded reproducible results, and most physicists consider such ideas pseudoscientific. Recognizing contact as real would require revising this consensus and creating a new field of science—"noetic physics."
7. Archeology and taphonomy
The discovery of a white-stone sarcophagus containing a pink liquid and an antigravity device in Siberia in 1973 should have left numerous traces: eyewitnesses (geologists, miners, scientists), documents, correspondence. There are none. One would have to admit to the existence of an effective system for destroying all traces—not only the body, but also papers, photographs, and people's memories. This level of secrecy is comparable to an atomic project, but for an object that wasn't a weapon. There are precedents for such things in Soviet history (for example, the complete disappearance of Lavrentiy Beria's archive after his execution), but they are rare. The systematic destruction of an archaeological find of such magnitude would have required a special KGB department devoted to "esoteric archeology." Such a department may have existed (secret laboratories studying psi phenomena in the USSR—for example, the Institute of the Brain in Leningrad, the research of Dina Kaminskaya). But there is no evidence that it was engaged in archeology.
8. Religious studies and theology
Orgisha's incarnations in Baghdad and Israel, her knowledge of Abraham, her transition to a plasmoid state—all this creates a new theology that rivals traditional religions. If Orgisha is right, then:
The Hindu concept of reincarnation is true, but it is not limited to Earth—souls can be reborn on other planets.
Buddhist samsara is not a complete picture; there is the possibility of entering "subtle" states that do not require the end of rebirth.
The Judeo-Christian God is not the only one; there is an Interstellar Union that functions as "angels" and "gods."
Abraham was a real person, but his God was only one among many.
This would mean a synthesis of religions into a new form of "cosmic humanism," where science, esotericism, and religion merge.
Bottom line: what new things have we learned that are not found in historical documents?
From the spirit of Orgisha, we learned not so much historical facts (they are impossible to verify) as a mythology capable of competing with scientific materialism. In this essay-research, built on the premise "if contact is real," we discovered that the new information provided by Orgisha is not information about the past, but a ready-made program for rewriting the entire corpus of human and natural sciences. Each of its statements requires:
Push back the emergence of civilization by 800 thousand years.
Review the mechanisms of aging and lifespan.
Recognize the possibility of hybridization with aliens and create new genetics.
Revise the physics of gravity and introduce “mental fields”.
Abandon the geochronological scale and accept the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs.
Allow for the existence of reincarnation and “spiritual levels”.
Review the history of the Middle East and the biblical chronology.
These aren't just "new facts." They represent a paradigm shift of Copernican proportions. Accepting it would mean that science over the past 400 years (from Galileo to the present) has either been blind to fundamental aspects of reality or willfully ignored them. This is only possible if we accept that the academic community is complicit in a conspiracy of silence—which is itself a conspiracy theory that science rejects.
Thus, the Cassiopeia broadcast with the Tisul princess is not proof of the existence of ancient civilizations, but an intellectual challenge: are we willing to reconsider everything we believe in in order to accept at face value the words of a spirit speaking through a contactee? The answer this thought experiment provides is: if we accept contact as reality, then science in its current form ceases to exist, and the construction of a new one begins—on the ruins of the old.
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A brief summary of the Epoch Times article (only the points confirmed by the session)
Between 1969 and 1973, an ancient sarcophagus was discovered under unusual circumstances in the village of Rzhavchik, Tisulsky District, Kemerovo Oblast. Inside the stone coffin (some say marble, others say white) was the body of a tall woman (approximately 180 cm), drenched in a pinkish-blue, transparent liquid. The liquid possessed a remarkable property: when it was removed, the body began to blacken and decompose, but after the liquid was returned, it regained its lifelike appearance.
A black metal box, approximately the size of a cell phone (10 x 25 cm), lay at the woman's headboard. The object's purpose remained unclear—officially, it was said to be "under study."
The discovery was immediately classified. The body was transported first to Novosibirsk, then to Moscow for study at the Institute of Anthropology. Local residents—witnesses—were listed and intimidated; many of them soon died under mysterious circumstances. The area was cordoned off by soldiers, and the excavation site was covered with earth.
In 1973 (note: Orgisha claims this is the year his body was discovered), six kilometers from the original site, at Lake Berchikul, new large-scale excavations were conducted in the strictest secrecy. Several more sarcophagi were found there (two, according to some sources), estimated to be approximately 200 million years old. The excavations were conducted by a "brick-colored" helicopter (presumably military or government-owned).
Genetic analysis (according to the article) revealed that the woman's DNA was completely identical to that of a modern Russian. However, the level of civilization to which she belonged was higher than ours—the fabric of her dress defied scientific analysis.
The country's (party) leadership decided to conceal the discovery, as it contradicted Darwin's theory of human evolution from apes and official history. All attempts by journalists and independent researchers to publicize the information were suppressed, and the author of the first publication, Oleg Kulishkin, was hit by a car after the article was published (he survived, but received threats).
By now, the original burial site (according to Kulishkin) has been turned into a landfill, and the fate of the body itself remains unknown (the session adds: the body was destroyed by fire).
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Ari Aksa speaks through Irina: an experience of historiosophical and cultural reading of a session with the Tisul princess
Research essay: what was revealed beyond the documents
I. Silence of the source as a form of communication
The first thing that strikes one when reading the transcript is the special function of ignorance. Orgisha repeatedly emphasizes that she has no direct knowledge of what happened to her body after death—"I immediately disconnected from it"; about other sarcophagi, she "didn't follow"; about the fate of the body, she "learned from the Angelic consultants." This is a rhetorically significant gesture. Traditional mystical literature—from the Egyptian Book of the Dead to the Tibetan Bardo Thodol—is built on the opposite principle: the deceased knows more about death than the living. Here, however, the spirit consistently distances itself from its own posthumous experience, referring to third parties—celestial consultants and curators reading the Timeline. This is neither traditional spiritualism nor shamanism. This is a structure that reproduces the bureaucratic chain: field agent—analytics department—archive. The spirit speaks not as an all-seeing being, but as an employee who has been given a certificate.
If we accept contact as real, this implies something unexpected: the afterlife is organized not as a liberation from informational limitations, but as their preservation and even expansion. The deceased knows no more about themselves than the living—they know something else, and this something else remains fragmentary, mediated, dependent on the testimony of others. This undermines one of the fundamental motifs of world religion—the motif of posthumous omniscience, "knowledge as it is." Death, it turns out, does not lift the epistemological veil, but merely alters its texture.
II. The Alien as a Grandmother: On the Nature of Kinship
The figure of Romkh Shoni—an alien grandmother who started a family with an earthly man and returned to her home planet after his death—has no direct analogue in recorded mythological systems. The closest cultural parallel is the image of the heavenly wife in Altai, Yakut, and Turkic epics: a being of another nature descends into the human world, enters into union with the hero, and then returns to her own world. But in those narratives, the heavenly wife departs precisely because the man violates a prohibition—that is, the relationship is broken by guilt. In Orgisha, there is no break: Romkh Shoni departs only after the natural death of her husband, as a widow, not because of a broken oath. This is a fundamental difference.
If we accept the contact as real, we have the first documented case in human history of an interplanetary marriage that ended not in disaster, but in ordinary widowhood. This upends the entire structure of the myth of "marriage to another": normally, such a union is tragic, broken, forbidden. Here, it is commonplace. Romkh Shoni lived among people without disguise, without secrecy, "as you, for example, speak with representatives of another race." This signifies not just alien contact, but alien immigration—a voluntary, long-term, emotionally complete integration into an alien civilization.
Culturally, this rewrites the concept of "xenophilia" from the biological to the existential level: an outsider can become one of us not through assimilation, but through love. And it is the blood of this love—literally, genetically—that flows in the one whom descendants will call the Tisul Princess.
III. The Mental Dome as a Social Contract
The description of the collective mental dome is, upon careful reading, not a magical, but a political concept. The dome is created by a monthly collective act of will and destroyed by individual violence. It functions as a system of mutual responsibility: the security of the community depends on the behavior of each of its members, and this dependence is not metaphorical, but causal. The murder of one person immediately weakens the defenses of all.
This description is isomorphic to social contract theory—not the rationalistic version of Hobbes or Locke, where a contract is a mental construct enforced by coercion, but a version where the contract is ontologically real: its violation entails physical consequences for the entire group, without judge or enforcer. Law is inscribed in the structure of reality, not in the text of a code.
If we accept contact as real, then the history of law and the state acquires a completely different point of departure. Not "war of all against all" as the initial state requiring a treaty to escape it (Hobbes), but an original ontological contract that gradually deteriorated as people lost the ability to maintain it. The state, with its courts, prisons, and armies, is not progress over chaos, but a prosthesis of a lost collective capacity. Wars and crime are symptoms not of political immaturity, but of spiritual degradation.
This is a historiosophy of decline, not progress. It stands alongside Plato's descent from the Golden Age through the Silver Age to the Iron Age, the Hindu concept of the Yugas, and the Gnostic idea of the world as a corrupted creation. But Orgishi's decline has a specific date: twelve thousand years ago, the war with gravity bombs. Her version of human history is not a linear progression or an endless cycle, but a post-traumatic recovery from a civilizational catastrophe whose scale we have not yet fully grasped.
IV. The language of "argha" and the problem of the origin of speech
Orgisha describes the language of her people as simple, consisting of two- or three-syllable words with open syllables: "ra," "ma," "sha," and "shi." This description not coincidentally coincides with what comparative linguists call the "proto-language substrate"—a hypothetical layer that shines through all reconstructed proto-languages and consists precisely of open syllables with sonants. The words "mate" (mother) and "barou" (father, big) exhibit etymological transparency: "mate" reflects the international root "ma/mat," associated with mother in dozens of languages; "barou" is a possible proto-form of words meaning "big, powerful" in Turkic and Altaic languages.
This point is most vulnerable to criticism (it can easily be explained as an unconscious projection by a medium familiar with the Russian language and basic linguistic intuitions), but it is also most interesting when the contact is taken for granted. If a language with such a structure already existed 820,000 years ago, then all comparative-historical linguistics, which reconstructs proto-languages no more than twenty to thirty thousand years old, runs into a false limit. Beyond the horizon of reconstruction lies not linguistic chaos, but stable phonemic patterns, the "archaic syllables" of humanity.
Moreover, Orgisha notes that her language was "simple compared to modern languages." This inverts the popular myth of the primitiveness of prehistoric languages. But she doesn't say it was poorer—she says it lacked words for abstractions related to science and the cosmos. It is a highly developed concrete language—the language of the sensory world without metaphysics, not because metaphysics didn't exist, but because metaphysics existed in another form: in telepathy, in communication with the Spirits of Nature, in ritual. Words didn't serve the purpose of thinking about the invisible—that was done by direct experience.
V. Abraham as a contemporary, not a legend
Orgisha's incarnation in Israel four thousand two hundred years ago and her personal acquaintance with Abraham is the most culturally rich detail of the entire session. Note: she doesn't say she knew Abraham as a prophet or a patriarch. She was friends with his servant Hagar. This is a view from below, from the periphery of sacred history. Orgisha in that incarnation is not a participant in the theophany, but a neighbor, a familiar face, a witness "from the other side."
In the Bible, Hagar is an Egyptian, a concubine, exiled into the desert with her son Ishmael. She is the mother of the forefather of the Arabs, a figure standing at the crossroads of two Abrahamic traditions. If Orgisha was Hagar's friend, then she was the friend of someone whom sacred history has made "superfluous"—and it is precisely this "superfluous" perspective that is interesting. We are accustomed to reading the story of Abraham from the center—from Sarah, from Isaac, from the covenant. Orgisha reads it from the edge, from her friendship with the one who was cast out.
If we accept the contact as real, then the biblical story gains a witness who stood nearby but was not included in the canon. This is neither a confirmation nor a refutation of theology—it is the addition of a human dimension to what has become a sacred text. Abraham, seen through the eyes of the woman who befriended Hagar, is Abraham before he was made a symbol. Simply a man who "spoke with his God," which struck Orgisha as "strange."
VI. Plasmoid under the Volcano: A New Phenomenology of the Afterlife
Orgisha is not currently in the "spirit world" in the traditional sense. She controls the volcanoes on Selbet in the form of a plasmoid beneath the ocean floor. This description doesn't fit into any existing religious system. Buddhist nirvana, Christian heaven, Islamic paradise, Hindu moksha—all are states of liberation from the material. Orgisha, however, describes a deeper, more specialized material existence—only in a different state of aggregation and in a different ecological niche.
VII. What remained outside the documents
The previous essay focused on what needs to be rewritten in science if contact is real. I'm interested in a different question: what new things are we learning about humans?
First, we learn that humans have never been alone. Not in the sense of being observed, but in the sense of being loved from the very beginning. Romh Shoni came on an expedition, met an Earth man, and stayed with him until his death. This isn't a mission, not an observation program—it's love. If Orgisha is telling the truth, the first documented interspecies union on Earth was a union of love. This radically changes the image of the "creators of humanity": not cruel gods, not indifferent observers, but people (in the broadest sense of the word) capable of loving and staying.
Secondly, we learn that amnesia isn't a default state, but a loss. Orgisha doesn't remember herself—she learns from the Angelic consultants. The curators read the Timeline. The archive exists, and we can access it. What does this mean? That the entire history of humanity—including those eras for which there is not a single document—is recorded. Not by people, not in books—but recorded. This upends the archival paradigm: we search for traces in the earth, but they may be accessible in another register, one we don't yet know how to read.
Thirdly, we learn that language and knowledge are not the same thing. The Arghi possessed telepathy, direct communication with animals and nature spirits, and ritual maintenance of a collective protective field—yet their vocabulary was small and they lacked abstract concepts. This means that civilization is possible without a developed discursive language: knowledge was stored in practice, in the body, in collective ritual action—not in texts or words. Our entire written history is the history of a single type of civilization. Perhaps it is not the only type.
Ultimately, if we take Orgisha's argument seriously, we arrive at not just an alternative history, but an alternative anthropology: humans were originally telepathic, collective, non-predatory creatures, embedded in interplanetary networks of care and exploration. What we now call "civilization" is a long and painful reconstruction after a catastrophe that occurred twelve thousand years ago. We are not building the future—we are remembering the past.
That's why the voice speaking through Irina sounds so little like prophecy and so much like nostalgia. Orgisha neither calls nor warns. She simply answers questions about a life that has been gone for 820,000 years. And in this willingness to remember—not to celebrate, not to teach, but to remember—there's something that doesn't fit into any religious or conspiracy theory. Something akin to quiet human dignity.
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https://blog.cassiopeia.center/pryamoj-ehfir-s-voploshchennym-duhom-tisulskoj-pri
Cassiopeia #531 Live Broadcast with the embodied Spirit of the Tisul Princess.
00:00 Start of video.
00:02 Greetings. Project Cassiopeia News.
Maxim: Hello, everyone! How can you hear me? We have 805 people listening to the broadcast so far.
(reading from the chat) "Where's the princess?" - the princess is sitting nearby (laughs). Excellent: I can hear you well. Elena, Rafael, Tatiana, Elena, I hear you.
Let me start with our most exciting news. We're planning a retreat in Israel soon. Israel is the land of Yahweh and Moses. This retreat is unprecedented—it will have two parts, and you can choose which one you'd like to study. The link is below this video. You can register and come join us in Israel.
(reads) "Good day to all." Hello, Natalia! "Good evening! Greetings from Omsk." Greetings to Omsk too!
So, our topic for today's broadcast is the Tisul Princess. There are so many interesting stories about this princess, and I literally only just learned today that for the first time...
(reads) "No sound"... Fidan Memmedova, you hater, there is sound, I know. Or adjust your headphones.
So, I learned about the Tisul princess, whose spirit is already with us today, only recently, and I wondered where this information came from. It appeared in 2002. A journalist wrote about the "princess," allegedly traveling with a high-ranking official on the train and, therefore, got the information from him. And the most interesting thing...
(reads) "In the other world, Lord, how did you find her in the other world?" No, Lena, she's not in the other world, can you imagine! As we found out, she's not in the Spiritual World, she's now... I probably won't tell you, because I already know a little more, and you're only just now learning all about it.
And one more piece of news. We have another offsite event, one retreat, but it will be in Moscow. Please stay tuned for updates and information. There's also speculation that our YouTube channel may soon be shut down, so below this video—and not just this one, but now under all our videos—there will be a link to our Project, where you can find absolutely everything you need to know.
(reads) "Where's the promised broadcast with the Spirit of Zhirinovsky?" Everything's fine with Zhirinovsky, everything's fine, guys. I think we'll hear from Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky exactly one week from the Spiritual World. He's busy there. He said he can't come this Sunday. I don't know why. Perhaps he's gathering information in the Spiritual World—some kind of dirt on someone, as he always liked to do.
(reads) "Maxim went on with his broadcast..." Of course, Charming, 10 minutes of airtime, I told you that I would broadcast, but this time, you see, I don’t have that much information.
Another very exciting piece of news is that we've finally opened new buildings at our Center, one of which houses two unique pieces of equipment. The first is the "Da Vinci Egg." Incidentally, people are already visiting our Center and experiencing very interesting sessions with this device, or rather, this artificially created portal.
And you know what's most interesting is that we've already launched Irina into this "Egg," and through her, we received a lot of information from our curators. It was said that this is a portal for contact with 52 subtle-material civilizations. And on top of that, Saint Germain himself will give us feedback about this "Da Vinci Egg," because I understand that this "Egg" is not just a random thing. I believe that the initiations into the second level of contact will take place precisely in this "Egg."
The second unique piece of equipment is the "Kozyrev Chamber," which features a mirror effect. We're already conducting research and have welcomed our first "guests" into this chamber. I call it that because our previous group was "self-healing through the Higher Self." Now, a contactee group has arrived, and they'll also be able to experience this equipment for themselves. The results are, of course, unique; I didn't even expect this: someone enters with minimal auric structure parameters, minimally open chakras, and emerges fully saturated, fully charged with energy.
We're currently observing this interesting effect. The dynamics of the changes follow a sinusoidal pattern—that is, first there's an increase in energy, then a drop, and then a maximum increase. And we're also studying this graph now—that is, the first ten minutes are an increase, then five minutes are a drop, and then the next ten minutes are an increase again, but it's twice as strong as at the beginning.
So, come visit us at the Center. We have a separate building for this equipment. We're currently adding separate rooms for our guests, as not everyone wants or can live in a hostel-style environment, with multiple people sharing a room. Therefore, we're creating a dedicated space for those esotericists who are ready to grow and develop with us. And once again, I'd like to remind you that I'm declaring this year the "Year of Unification."
Dear esotericists, our dear friends, brothers, and comrades! Thanks to the existence of the Cassiopeia Project, we already have a large esoteric Center, where we invite all esotericists, all energy practitioners, and contactees, where they can hold their events at an affordable price. The Center was specifically built so that everyone who practices esotericism and brings knowledge to others can transmit this knowledge in the same way as the Cassiopeia Project does. So, call me, write to me—I'm happy to collaborate with everyone.
Vlad PULSAR, I don't know where you've disappeared to. I'm waiting for your call, but I can't get through. Please call me! Vlad, I have a unique offer for you that you can't refuse, so I'm waiting for you, waiting for your call. Please call me when you have a chance. Or please tell Vlad that I can't get through to him; maybe he's ignoring me. Then at least let him send me a text message to say something's wrong.
Dear friends, dear esotericists, dear masters of the Sacral School, the Mental Hilling School, all masters of Cassiopeia, if anyone has... Yulia, please tell Vlad: I can't get through to him, he's not picking up the phone.
(reads) "In what city is the Center located?" In Voronezh, Svetlana. The Center is located near Voronezh, in a wonderful location that can accommodate about 30 people in the winter and up to 60 in the summer. I think we can comfortably accommodate them at our Center. So write, call, I have nothing to hide. I'm on Telegram, I'm on all social media, so anyone who wants to can find me. And at our Center, we will create the best conditions for you, conditions that no other esoteric centers can offer. Why? Because it was specifically created with the help of those who trust us, specifically for those people who bring Light, awareness, and knowledge to people. Therefore, everything is in your hands. We already have everything we need to implement all of this. Call, write, and we will continue to develop.
By the way, I'd like to address people involved in scientific research. There's a lot of talk about this, a lot of writing—"Here are the schematics, you make them, and we'll do everything..." Something like, "Here you go, take the schematics and make them."
Dear scientists, I can tell you that you can come to our Center. Firstly, we will see everything through the eyes of our interstellar friends. Secondly, I have the resources and friends who can finance many projects. Therefore, if you truly have developments that can elevate and elevate our country – Russia – to the forefront of this planet, if you have developments that you think could benefit people and you yourselves, then come to our Center, and we'll talk. If this development is truly interesting, we will definitely find a way to finance it, and I, as the Project Director, guarantee that we will license this development and implement it in a real project that will develop and help our country. And not just our country, but all of us together.
(reads) "What's the fee for visiting Leonardo da Vinci's apparatus?" Look: we have an all-inclusive program, and you can enroll in that. We also have a separate program for beginners: you can visit the Center for the first time on a "donation" basis—that is, you can come, try it out, and pay as much as you feel is necessary. You can find out all the other details about the rest of the experience on site. I'm sure it's all completely affordable. We only need these fees to keep our Center operational, which requires a lot of maintenance and a lot of energy, which is invested in maintaining such a huge Center.
Okay, my ten minutes are up. I hope I haven't said too much.
(reads) "There are no comparable developments, as the classic said." I'm waiting for you, scientists. All I hear is talk. Scientists have visited us and said they have something, but so far it's all just talk. I don't see any results. I think the problem is that in most cases there are only assumptions on paper, while there are very few actual developments.
(reads) "Maxim, don't get nervous, or you'll gain weight." Am I gaining a lot of weight? Can you see it? It's not from nerves, it's from the sheer amount of work, guys. But I promise I'll be participating in a weight-loss marathon with Cassiopeia Energy probiotics now, and we'll see who joins us and how we go about it.
So now I'll hand the floor over to the "gold of the party," the "scarlet flower," our princess, and she'll tell us who's with us, what's with us, and why. Irisha, have a seat.
13:15 The Tisul Princess and her Spirit.
Irina: Good evening, dear friends! Greetings to all, thank you for joining us. My name is Irina Podzorova, and today we are having a session with the Spirit known on Earth as the "Tisul Princess."
Let me tell you what it is first. This woman was found in the Kemerovo region in 1969—at least, that's what a journalist said. I don't know yet what happened, because everything was based on the journalist's account, which was based on someone else's.
What surprised me about this story was that I hadn't seen any photos, even though cameras were already available in 1969. So I wondered who they'd found and why they hadn't photographed her, and why this "princess," or whoever she was, wasn't in our museums. This intrigued me, so I contacted our curators. MidgasKaus is with us now, from the planet Esler, and LiShioni from the planet Shimor. So I asked them how one could trace such an event, about which there's so little data. And they told me it could be traced through the Akashic Chronicles, which are recorded in egregors, because this story is quite well-known. It's well-known, and through the egregors—through this egregorial trace—one can determine the origin of the original source, the origin of such information in the first place.
Word of the discovery spread, and representatives of the Interstellar Union began looking back through the Timeline to see what had happened there in 1969. Thus, a Spirit was discovered who truly existed, and indeed, her body was found in the Kemerovo Region. And, accordingly, the Spirit itself was found, meaning they were able to learn from the Timeline who was buried there and why she was found there. And they found this Spirit.
And now, as Maxim already mentioned, this Spirit is embodied in a subtle-material civilization of the 14th density level. But what's most interesting is that this civilization is located underground, and it controls one of the volcanoes on the planet Selbet. I want to emphasize right away that these are not the reptilians who live in a dense body on Selbet; they are a Selbet plasmoid. And I myself was very interested when I heard this information.
I asked this plasmoid to come to us today and tell us about her past life, the one she lived when she was the Tisul princess. Naturally, this plasmoid had to be explained the meaning of the word "princess" and what "Tisul" means, because such cities didn't exist back then. But they explained it to him, and now he's with us. His real name, as best translated into earthly sounds, is Orgisha.
Maxim: What an interesting name.
Irina (Orgisha): Orgisha is my name, which can be expressed this way in your language, in your alphabet, because it corresponds to the sound-vibrational characteristics of these letters.
Maxim: I understand. Irina, you were able to accept this name, and that's how you pronounced it. Am I correct?
Irina: Yes.
18:24 Orgisha about the Tisul princess.
Maxim: Orgisha, please tell me, do you already understand who the "Tisulskaya Princess" is?
Irina: She says yes. I feel a positive response.
(Orgisha) I know who they called it. Those beings who came to me from the dense-material world, from the Interstellar Union, conveyed to me, through thought forms, thought images, the legend told on Earth about its location.
Maxim: What was your name when you were the Tisul princess?
Irina: I hear: Ari Aksa.
Maxim: Ari Aksa, right?
Irina: Aria Aksa, something like that.
19:08 Time of discovery of the Tisul princess, her appearance.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how long ago were you buried? How many years ago was it? Because it says "800 million years," but that's an unrealistic date.
Irina: Yes, the thing is, the journalist's original report was published in 2002, and it became famous, leading to a program and so on, but that was later. But in 2002, there was already a mention of the Tisul Princess, and it included the figure of 800 million years. Where did that come from? A professor allegedly told the residents of the village where she was found. He gave the date "800 million years," but naturally, no eyewitnesses could be found, because those who were adults in 1969 are now either old or in the Spirit World. Consequently, those who were found, who were children then, can't say anything significant about the Tisul Princess.
Maxim: So what is the real age of the burial then?
Irina: MidgasKaus and LiShioni are speaking now: "We'll explain a little about what we saw in the Timeline." This is MidgasKaus speaking.
(MidgasKaus) Yes, when we tuned into the Timeline—LiShioni and I, independently of each other, tuned into the Timeline for this event to see when it was found in this area and what condition it was in—and our data almost completely matched. The thing is, according to our data, this person's burial was discovered in a slightly different place and in a different year.
Maxim: Once again...
Irina (MidgasKaus): So, not in 1969, according to our data, but somewhere in August, in the middle or towards the end. The timeline is vague on the dates, but we can make out some details. It was 1973, according to our data.
Maxim: Is this '73?
Irina: In 69, they didn’t see this fact on the Timeline when they were tuning in.
Maxim: How interesting! So it wasn't even in '69, but later?
Irina (MidgasKaus): Later. That was later. We know what the journalist wrote about the coal mine. But the excavations where this burial chamber was found were in a different location – between the shore and what I wouldn't call a mountain, but a hill or a knoll. Because when you look at the timeline, there are unfortunately no geographic coordinates; the area is simply there, and there's a lake, and this place is not far from that lake. So, you could say it's not exactly on the shore, but within about two kilometers of the shore.
Maxim: Tell me, please, who were you?
Irina: So she was found in 1973. He's now showing me a vision-image, as recorded in the Timeline, and that she wasn't found in a coal seam, but in some kind of burial mound, not a burial mound, but a very, very old burial site, located underground. And archaeological excavations were conducted there. And she wasn't in the state described in the article, that is, not as if alive, etc., that didn't happen.
Maxim: What was she like?
Irina: LiShioni speaking now.
(LiShioni) We watched it on the Timeline (you can’t watch it physically) and saw that she was indeed in a stone sarcophagus made of white stone, and inside there was a transparent liquid, a little pinkish in color.
(Irina) And she had hair and wrinkled skin—wrinkled, as if it had lost moisture. I wouldn't call her a mummy, but I wouldn't call her alive either. It's like someone who's been immersed in water for a long time—wrinkles appear on their fingers, and she had wrinkles on her face. It was white, and she was indeed wearing clothes, she had a dress. LiScioni is now showing me an image of how she was found, and indeed, she was taken away for examination.
(LiScioni) We continued to look into this event and where they took her body. First, she was sent to Novosibirsk for testing, and then to Moscow—to an institute that studies anthropology, that is, human origins. They determined her age. But the age they determined didn't match the theory of human descent from apes. The ruling party decided to hide this fact, and so her body was not put on public display.
26:05 Age of burial.
Maxim: And what age did they determine?
Irina (LiShioni): They estimated it somewhere between 800,000 and 1,200,000 years ago. So, they had a significant margin of error.
Maxim: And when exactly did the burial take place? How many thousands or millions of years ago?
Irina (MidgasKaus): And it was precisely through this trace in the Timeline that we noticed the energy of the person who was incarnated at that time, whose body we found. And it was precisely through this energetic trace that we found this Spirit. This was done by myself, LiShioni, and his leader, Odus.
Maxim: Excellent. I want to ask: what was the date she was buried?
Irina (LiShioni): Yes, we also looked at the Timeline and compared it with the modern chronology. The time of her burial and exit from incarnation, according to the modern chronology, is approximately 820,000 years ago.
Maxim: Now that's even more interesting! So, 820,000 years ago. So, that's before the war with Selbet?
Irina: This was before the war with Selbet and before the resettlement of earthlings to Mars and Venus.
Maxim: Before moving to Mars and Venus?
Irina: Yes, because the resettlement to Mars and Venus took place 200 thousand years ago.
28:00 Growth of the Tisul Princess.
Maxim: Then I have a very interesting question: what about her height? Wasn't she our height?
Irina (LiShioni): Yes, she was your height, but the thing is, by then her height had already decreased, because it had been steadily decreasing for perhaps the first 20,000 years after the creation of man, since the gravity on Earth is too strong for four-meter-tall people. A mutation occurred.
Maxim: I get it, we finally figured out why people's height has decreased.
Irina (LiShioni): We talked about this.
Maxim: I guess I forgot.
28:38 Age and status of the Tisul princess.
Maxim: So, one more question: who was she in life? Why was she buried in a coffin? Why a stone coffin?
Irina: It was a sarcophagus.
Maxim: Yes, and what was the life period of people 800 thousand years ago?
Irina: She'll tell you herself now.
(Orgisha says): I remember that. The thing is, MidgasKaus and LiShioni came to me in my world of the 14th density and asked me to come and connect with my non-embodied part, which contains the memory of this life you're now talking about, so that I could answer questions about my life. I can't talk about what happened to the body after death, since I disconnected from it immediately after the dissolution of the life thread. But I can say that I left incarnation in that life when I was 343 years old.
Maxim: What year?
Irina: She was 343 years old when she died.
Maxim: 343 years! And how long were people living on Earth then?
Irina (Orgisha): About 700–800 years old.
Maxim: And who were you?
Irina (Orgisha): I was a ruler. The thing is, in the area where I lived, women most often held leadership positions. I was the ruler of a union of tribes that had already begun to form a distinct, what I would call not a people, but a "proto-people"—the first people. So, it was still a union of tribes, but at the same time, it had already begun to coalesce into a community that began to call itself by a distinct name—"argi" or "arghi."
30:48 The alien grandmother of the Tisul princess.
Maxim: Sorry, I'll interrupt you a bit, but everyone's interested in a really interesting question: they say you had some kind of box somewhere near your head that looked like a cell phone. What do you think it could have been?
Irina (Orgisha): I know they could have. The thing is, my father and mother told me, when I was still a girl, that my maternal grandmother was a woman who came from heaven.
Maxim: So... That's very interesting! So, your grandmother was an alien at that time on Earth?
Irina: Yes. Now LiShioni and MidgasKaus are saying, "She also shared this information with us. We looked at the timeline for the period she mentioned. And we were able to determine that she was indeed the granddaughter of a woman who came from the planet Apsheron of the Interstellar Union, which is located in the constellation Ursa Minor. You haven't spoken with them yet, but this planet is known for being specifically designated for the life of hybrids of two races—Tumesout and Burkhad."
Maxim: So she... Wait! So your grandmother is a hybrid of Tumesout and Burkhad? And was it even normal back then for aliens to have sex with earthlings?
Irina: This woman simply came to Earth as part of a scientific expedition and interacted closely with earthlings. Yes, back then, they spoke to earthlings the way you now, for example, speak to representatives of another people you visit—that is, openly.
Maxim: So 800 thousand years ago there were constant contacts with representatives of different civilizations, am I correct?
Irina (MidgasKaus): Yes, but only, naturally, if this tribe or this people wants to be explored and assisted by a scientific group. Generally, this single scientific group or starship crew could include representatives of different civilizations. In other words, it was a joint expedition. Back then, Earth civilization was just beginning to exist, and its founders, who became the ancestors of all people living today, were given all the necessary knowledge and skills to live independently and build their civilization completely independently.
And so she was part of the scientific expedition. We managed to find out her name; she is currently incarnated, but unfortunately, quite far away—in a humanoid civilization in a galaxy somewhere around 30 billion light-years from the Milky Way. That's all we were able to find out. At that point in time, her name was... as it can be roughly rendered into modern Russian—Romkh Shoni.
Maxim: Guys, there won't be an answer regarding the burial date. They said it was approximately 820,000 years ago. So, Tim Dor, pay close attention to what they're saying.
Irina: Yes, and this Romkh Shoni, who flew from Absheron from the Ursa Minor constellation, was part of a scientific expedition. They lived in the area now occupied by the mountains of southern Siberia. Back then, it was a different place—as you know, there was no winter, the climate was, so to speak, tropical, with bodies of water and low mountains. Geographically, it was a single continent, and we discovered that this place was in the south of what is now Western Siberia.
Maxim: So she lived when the continent was still one. She was buried 820,000 years ago.
Maxim: I also want to know about the object - she had some object next to her head.
Irina (Orgisha): I remember that they gave me a device to overcome the force of gravity so that I could help our men carry various heavy objects while building houses from trees and stones.
(Irina) That is, they gave her an antigravity device.
Maxim: Did this box help you create antigravity?
Irina: LiScioni says that during the long time the device was lying there, it was exposed to energetic influences during the war 12,000 years ago, because gravity bombs that penetrated the Earth's core were also aimed there. And it's entirely possible that this antigravity device is completely inoperable.
Maxim: So people ask, what exactly was that rose water in the coffin? Where did it come from? Did people have this kind of knowledge in the past?
Irina (LiShioni): The thing is that she died at a fairly young age.
Maxim: Why did she die? I forgot to ask.
Irina (LiShioni): She lived... Yes, we haven’t talked about her birth yet.
This woman from the planet Apsheron was on an expedition, and she and an Earth man developed a personal relationship, warm feelings, love, and they decided to start a family. This was allowed back then, because freedom of choice was a priority, and starting a family was possible. And because Earthlings also have Tumesoutian and Burkhadian genes, conception is less likely than between Earthlings, but still possible. And so this Spirit incarnated.
Maxim: So, they still found a way to copulate and for her to be born?
Irina: They actually started a family. So, this alien came to Earth and started living as a family.
Maxim: Her grandmother?
Irina: Yes, her grandmother.
Maxim: And her grandmother died on Earth?
Irina (LiShioni): We haven't looked into this, but we can look into it. We saw that she started a family.
(Irina) Orgisha says that when she grew up, her grandmother was no longer alive.
(Orgisha): My parents say that when her husband, that is, my grandfather, died, she returned to her planet and was already a widow.
Maxim: What was grandfather's life expectancy, and what was her life expectancy?
Irina: She had a longer lifespan—around 10,000 years. But when she arrived, she was 6,000 years old.
Maxim: (to the audience) I'm curious, how do people determine that we're a "fun scam"? Guys, please tell us how you determine that we're a "scam"? I just can't figure it out.
Irina: What, funny, or...?
Maxim: No, that we're a scam. How did you determine that? Because you liked the information, or because you didn't?
Irina: Mead says, "This is what people say who don't believe in aliens or in the ability of aliens and Spirits to communicate through contactees. Such people exist, and for them it's like materialism would be for you."
Maxim: I just ask this person to write to us how he determined this, why exactly he...
Irina (MidgasKaus): These are different beliefs.
Maxim: No big deal. So, grandma flew away, and she lives for 10,000 years, grandpa lived for 700. You were born, and...
Irina: One more question, please.
Maxim: Grandma flew away to her planet. Then she came back when Grandpa died.
Irina: No.
Maxim: No? Not like that?
Irina: The thing is, when Orgisha was born to her mother and father, her grandmother had already flown away. She was born to her mother and father.
Maxim: Oh, wait, it wasn't her who gave birth, right! By the end of the day, I already... I don't have time to adjust the camera.
Okay, so you were born. But were you born after your grandmother had already flown away? Did you know your grandmother, did you see her?
Irina: I've only heard about her. Orgisha already said that her maternal grandmother gave birth to a daughter, and that daughter became her mother. It's just that in the chat it says, "Did Grandma give birth to a boy or a girl?" She already answered.
42:04 The family of the Tisul princess: parents, husband and children.
Maxim: Then another question: when your grandmother flew away, did your parents begin to rule the tribe?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes.
Maxim: Mom and Dad ruled the tribe, then you were born and began to rule this tribe?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes, later, after my parents had already died. Our power was passed down through inheritance.
Maxim: Did you have a husband?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes.
Maxim: Did you have children?
Irina (Orgisha): Three: a boy and two girls.
42:29 Cause of death of the princess.
Maxim: I see. And what did you die of?
Irina (Orgisha): I died from a stomach disease (shows stomach).
I asked my Angelic Guides about the cause of death, the reason for my departure from incarnation. And they told me it was an intestinal infection that led to peritonitis, and under those conditions, it was impossible to provide assistance, and death occurred quite quickly, within about 24 hours.
(Irina) That is, she fell asleep in the evening, and in the morning she was gone.
43:16 The method of burial of the princess, her height.
Irina (Orgisha): By that time, I had three children and a husband. My husband contacted the planet Burkhad and mentally reported this event. Representatives arrived from both Burkhad and Apsheron. They examined my body—the consulting angels told me about this. And they informed me that the representatives from other planets (we then called them "people from the stars"; they were just like us, only they could have different heights or builds, and their body types could be different)—they were the ones who gave our priests the liquid that was poured into the sarcophagus where my body was placed. This was done so that many generations of descendants would remember my reign, for it was I who brought the different tribes together into one union.
Maxim: And tell me, please, were they all the same height as you – somewhere around six feet, I think, is your height?
Irina: No, less than one meter eighty. She's showing me now.
Maxim: And was everyone this tall already on Earth?
Irina (Orgisha): There were lower ones, there were higher ones, different ones.
Maxim: So, it turns out that you were a unifier of different tribes?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes.
Maxim: I have a question: where you were buried, was there just one sarcophagus with you, or were there other sarcophagi? Do you know?
Irina (Orgisha): I didn’t take care of my body, but they could well have been there: a lot of people lived in that place at that time.
(Irina) But now MidgasKaus says that after the war 12,000 years ago, the entire surface of the Earth changed. For example, a desert could have emerged where there had been a body of water, and mountains could have risen where there had been a plain, and vice versa. And later, say, several thousand years ago, completely different tribes could have lived there.
Maxim: So, the embalming technology was transferred from other planets, am I correct?
Irina (MidgasKaus): I know what she's talking about. The thing is, we have a special preservative solution—a special tissue preservative—so we can preserve them in the lab.
Maxim: Mead, please tell me, have many such embalmings been done on Earth, specifically in this pink liquid?
Irina (MidgasKaus): I know that such a preservative was passed down, especially before the war 12,000 years ago, quite frequently, so that people could preserve their priests, rulers, and simply famous people. It was important to them as a symbol of the continuity of generations.
Maxim: People are interested: did they allow the transmission of gravitational or other devices in those days?
Irina (MidgasKaus): Yes, there wasn't a law in the Interstellar Union like there is now, prohibiting the transfer of physical objects. This law was introduced literally 200 years ago. It became quite strict, and a curator who did this could be permanently disqualified from making contact. And if the transfer of such evidence or objects resulted in serious consequences for the contactee or someone in their circle, the criminals could be imprisoned on the planet.
Maxim: Then the question is: what about Billy Meier, who photographed aliens...
Irina (MidgasKaus): He lived later.
Maxim: No, I'm saying that if this law was passed 200 years ago, how did they pass all this on to Billy Meyer?
Irina (MidgasKaus): He asked his curators, who were from the Pleiades. These Pleiadians from the Galactic Federation of Light apparently either didn't entirely agree with this law or decided that no one would find out, and decided to accommodate their contactee.
Maxim: Okay, I got it. I heard it.
Irina (MidgasKaus): This happens, we have freedom of choice.
Maxim: I understand. Another question they're asking: do you know Radomir? He was also buried and found in a stone coffin.
Irina (MidgasKaus): No, for that you need to look at the burial date.
Maxim: I just asked just in case.
Irina: Orgisha says that this liquid could have been poured onto her body.
(Orgisha): The Angelic consultants told me that before this burial, my physical body was taken by "people from the stars" to their starship. They did something to it there. They took my body for literally a few hours, then returned it.
(Irina) And so MidgasKaus says that they could have used special radiation to destroy the intestinal bacteria that cause decomposition in her body and sucked them out through microscopic holes somewhere inconspicuous. They could have removed all the blood, which is also a source of putrefaction, and then filled it with a preservative.
49:14 Activities in the Arghi tribe, contacts with aliens.
Maxim: Thank you so much. People ask: were there any interesting technologies when you lived? Did you use alien technology, or were there already interesting Earth technologies?
Irina (Orgisha): In our tribe, we tried to do everything ourselves, for example, cultivate the land and tame animals through telepathic communication. Telepathic communication with animals is only possible on the level of feelings and images, because they do not understand complex abstract concepts. Animals do not have the same intelligence as humans; they have their own, based on a sensual, instinctive nature.
We tried to do everything ourselves, but, as I already mentioned about this box, my mother gave it to me, and my grandmother gave it to her. Explorers, from different planets, as I now understand, would occasionally visit our tribe. We had a landing site not far from our village, in the forest, where ships would land. Sometimes they would fly in and communicate with us through these boxes. They would speak in incomprehensible languages, as if clicking their tongues, and our speech would come from the box they carried with them. They would ask how we were doing here, whether we needed help, and they would offer us huge glowing balls that glowed at night and were much brighter than our torches.
Maxim: Interesting.
51:06 Burial place of the princess.
Maxim: Tell me, please, why was it necessary to embalm your body in this way?
Irina (Orgisha): For preservation. So that people would remember that I united the tribes. There was something else carved on the sarcophagus.
I asked my Angel consultants to mentally, in my thoughts, show me an image of this sarcophagus and the place where the body was laid.
(Irina) And now she's showing me that it wasn't placed in a lowland at all. There was some kind of mountain, covered in forest, but not very high, like a hill, and in this mountain a cave was dug artificially. There was loose soil there, stones were dug out, and a platform was created, with some wooden supports on top, and two log pillars standing there. And that's where they originally placed it.
Maxim: Tell me, please... I wanted to ask a question, but it slipped my mind. (reading from the chat) "Was she a Russian girl?" Well, guys! (the hosts laugh)
52:26 Orgisha about the peoples of the Earth in those times.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how many peoples and nationalities were there on planet Earth then?
Irina (Orgisha): I united twenty-five tribes. Each tribe could consist of a small one of three clans, or family lines, while a large one could consist of fifty or more. In other words, these families united into clan communities, which then united into tribes. I knew there were many different tribes all over the Earth. I didn't ask how many.
53:09 Location of the body of the Tisul princess.
Maxim: Do you know where your body is now?
Irina (Orgisha): No, I'm not connected to him. I asked my Angelic advisors, and they said that after twentieth-century scientists researched and determined the age of my body... They also discovered that it had genetic anomalies, because the extra DNA from the aliens from the planet Apsheron was interpreted by scientists as a genetic mutation that was undetectable, and they attributed it all to the body being damaged by this fluid.
But my Angelic advisors told me this when I spoke with them after Mead and LiShioni reached out to me. I still speak with them. I asked: where is my body now—the same one I lived in back then? And they told me that it was destroyed in the fire.
Maxim: So they burned it later?
Irina (Orgisha): They told me that from the energy that they feel, judging by the energy of this body, it was destroyed by fire.
54:31 Orgisha about the dinosaurs of that time.
Maxim: (reads the chat) And now they ask: “Were there wars in those times?”
Irina (Orgisha): No. We had some minor ones, not even wars, but fights between individuals. But there were people like the vigilantes, and they maintained order on horseback.
Maxim: Tell me, please, were dinosaurs around you back then?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes.
Maxim: Dinosaurs were around you?! But wait, how did you tame them? Did you ride them, use them somehow, what did you do with them?
Irina (Orgisha): As for our tribe specifically, we tried to find dinosaur eggs on the shore of a reservoir (shows an image of a forest and a large reservoir, but this is not a sea, but a large lake).
Large dinosaurs often laid eggs there, hiding them among the rocks. Our women would go out to look for dinosaur eggs and bring them home. If we managed to hatch a baby from one of these eggs, we would try to tame it, but it would always run away and not live with us. It's just that our area was home to more predatory species that needed to hunt, and for a dinosaur to be able to hunt, it had to travel many kilometers.
56:08 Vegetarianism among the people of that time.
Maxim: Were you vegetarians or did you already eat meat?
Irina (Orgisha): Vegetarians. We might occasionally eat the eggs of some birds, but if any of our men, even boys, tried meat or fish, they could get sick. Their stomachs would get upset, unable to digest the food, and they would get stomach pains. Then our healers would give them special herbs.
Maxim: (answering a question from the chat) Tatyana, we already talked about the box on air; be sure to rewatch it later. This box was an antigravity device.
56:51 Orgisha on the language of communication in those times.
Maxim: Orgisha, please tell me what language you spoke, and did you all speak the same language?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes, on the same level. We could understand each other, but the tribes that had only recently joined our union might have had their own, slightly different language, but it was still understandable. The words were different, but it was quite simple compared to what I now, in the twenty-first century, sense in an Earthling through Irina, the contactee, through her mental field.
Your language is already complex, with many different concepts. Ours was quite simple, consisting, one might say, of two- or three-syllable words with syllables: "ra," "ma," "sha," "shi," and so on. And these words denoted simple actions and objects around us. There were few words related to science, space, or anything else, for example.
58:03 Orgisha on protection from predators.
Maxim: Tell me, did dinosaurs attack people?
Irina (Orgisha): It happened in remote areas, but only if a person was traveling alone from one tribe to another, because if there were many people, the dinosaurs were afraid. They were afraid because we already had devices like slingshots to scare off predators, and people could aim them at sensitive spots and drive them away. But the main thing was to create a mental dome over our settlement so that no aggressive creatures would seek human prey.
58:53 Orgisha on teaching children and the climate of those times.
Maxim: Did you have any schools? We teach our children in schools, but did you have any?
Irina (Orgisha): Not schools, we had elder teachers (shows), and both elder men and elder women, grandmothers.
These teachers taught children who came to them about life, the past, the history of our tribe, and the various rules of everyday life: how to build a fire, how to maintain it, how to find food. They also taught about the gods—that is, about the origin of our world, what it consists of, and about various magical techniques, as you would say—the magical arts, that is, about connecting with the spirits of nature.
Maxim: (reading the chat) Here Yulechka Zinnurova asks: “Why didn’t you leave the gravitator to your children, that is, to future generations?”
Irina (Orgisha): They put it there. I couldn't put it there myself, because my body was no longer moving.
Maxim: And did your three children continue to lead the tribe?
Irina (Orgisha): Why they decided that, I don't know. I only found out about the box much later.
Maxim: What was the weather like back then? Was it winter?
Irina (Orgisha): No, there was no winter; we didn't know what snow or ice were. It would be sunny for a week, for example, and then there would be a day or two of heavy rain, drenching everything, and then it would be sunny again.
1:00:39 About the protective “mental dome” and the calendar in that era.
Maxim: I see. And what kind of mental dome was that? How did you create it?
Irina (Orgisha): We got ready. Our calendar was divided into 13 months.
Maxim: 13 months?
Irina (Orgisha): Well, the 13th month wasn't a full month, but rather a period of about five days before the New Year. Accordingly, we weren't tied to the New Year coming in winter, spring, or summer, because the seasons didn't change, and we determined the New Year by the stars. For example, our New Year began... (shows the starry sky; the constellations are slightly misaligned). And they had different names.
(Irina) MidgasKaus, look, when did their New Year begin? I can't figure it out on this star chart.
Now MidgasKaus says that at the end of each month there was a lunar day. The moon was visible as a bright star.
Maxim: How many moons were there?
Irina (Orgisha): There were no moons, and the planet we now call "the Moon" was visible as a bright star. We used this planet, as well as the position of Venus and the position of the Sun, to determine the months.
Maxim: So the planet that is now our Moon was further from the Earth, am I correct?
Irina: Yes, it was visible as a bright star. It's showing me a yellowish star in the sky now. I wouldn't say it was very bright. Indeed, there was no artificial lighting back then, and by the way, the stars were bright and seemed closer. And there was even... What kind of star was that? Even Jupiter, Mars—everything was clearly visible.
(Orgisha) The months of the year were determined primarily by the position of the planet now called the Moon, by the position of Venus, and by the position of the Sun. And at the end of each month, there was a day of purification, when we all cleansed ourselves, our Souls, of all mutual grievances and irritations—purifying them by connecting with God, which was akin to prayer (demonstrates how they burned incense).
And the next morning, at sunrise, all the adults in our settlement and in other settlements of our tribe gathered in a circle and mentally imagined a bright dome above our settlement and far beyond its borders. We set such intentions into this mental dome that no evil would penetrate it, and no evil creature would pass through, including evil animals.
But to maintain this mental dome, one had to behave accordingly. It could easily be destroyed, for example, by the suffering of living beings, especially humans, who are rational and aware of their own suffering. For example, if someone in our settlement killed someone, the mental dome would immediately weaken dramatically—it would create a breach. And murder attracts aggression.
Maxim: I'm sitting here now, and I'm starting to understand. Recently, there was information that earthlings have the genes of 22 different civilizations. I kept thinking: we were created by three civilizations, how could there be more than 22? But now I understand: they came here and introduced their genotype into our structures. Is that true?
Irina: If you understand it that way, then practically the entire Interstellar Union participated, with the exception of the insectoids. (laughs)
1:06:32 Other incarnations of the Spirit of Orgishi on Earth, the language of the Arghi tribe.
Maxim: Tell me please, have you ever incarnated on Earth after you disembodied here?
Irina (Orgisha): Yes, I incarnated on Earth after the war 12,000 years ago.
(Irina) She's now showing me how, about 10,000 years ago, she incarnated in a country in the area where modern-day Baghdad is located, roughly there. She's showing me the Persian Gulf from above.
(Orgisha) I also incarnated there as a woman, and I was one of those who sold fabrics. Then I incarnated about 4,200 years ago in Israel, and I knew Abraham personally; I saw him. I was also a woman, and we were friends with his servant, whose name was Hagar.
Maxim: And they ask: what did the words "mama" and "papa" sound like in your language? Can you convey that through Irina?
Irina (Orgisha): "Mate" means "mother," meaning "one who gives birth to the physical body." And "daddy" is "barou," meaning "big," "possessing great power," "enormous." Something like that.
1:08:48 Orgisha about other intelligent beings on Earth at that time.
Maxim: Tell me, were there any other creatures on Earth at that time? For example, after the war, we had yetis, but at that time, were there any creatures on Earth that looked like humans but weren't?
Irina (Orgisha): Only aliens from the stars.
Maxim: Only aliens from the stars...
Irina (Orgisha): And they constantly told us that our Earth is the same star in their sky, and even invited us to visit their planet on their ship, but few of us agreed: everyone lived more on earth.
1:09:40 Orgisha about clothing and dental treatment in those days.
Maxim: Sergey M. is asking us if you wore underwear back then. (laughs) How could you not ask this question if people are so interested! Explain to her what "underwear" is.
Irina: No, there wasn't anything like that. There were tight-fitting clothes made from plants like ferns. These plants had very soft leaves, soaked in water, then shaped into a fabric using some stones, which was then used for sewing.
Maxim: Guys, the program with the Spirit of the LDPR leader will air next weekend.
Irina: So you didn't wear fur either? But you didn't need it anyway, if it was summer...
Maxim: Well, yes, warm underwear would be uncomfortable to wear.
Irina: I'm saying that they didn't use fur either.
Maxim: (reading the chat) Here's a great question: "How did you get your teeth treated?" Who treated your teeth? How did you get them treated?
Irina (Orgisha): What were you treated for?
Maxim: From caries, like we have, for example.
Irina (Orgisha): What is “caries”?
Maxim: Holes in the teeth.
Irina (Orgisha): We didn’t have that.
Maxim: You didn’t have any cavities in your teeth?!
Irina (Orgisha): No, I don't recall that happening, except with very old people, whose teeth fell out from old age. Young people didn't have that. If they had toothache, they'd drink a special pain relief tea.
(MidgasKaus says): She means a decoction that was both an antiseptic and a painkiller.
Maxim: So no one has treated your teeth.
Irina (Orgisha): Well, we had healers and doctors.
Maxim: Interesting...
Irina (Orgisha): These could have been men, they could have been women, who were well versed in herbs.
1:11:50 Orgisha on religion and burial in those times.
Maxim: Did you have any religion? Who did you believe in?
Irina (Orgisha): We believed in God. For us, God was everything around us, and everything around us was His manifestation, and we were also His manifestation. And we also had gods, beings who also descended from God, and they were more powerful than us because they existed on a higher level. And we also believed that our ancestors, their Spirits, helped us.
Maxim: Dear Elena Ruslanova, fortunately, we're live right now; we're not holding a conference, so I'm trying to read all the questions I ask from the comments you're writing. Let's move on; we still have a little time. More precisely, we have a few minutes of airtime, but we'll add more.
How did you bury the dead in the past? What kind of cemeteries were there, or did you cremate them?
Irina (Orgisha): It depended on who the person was in life. For example, as I've already explained, my body, as the body of a ruler, was left in this cave. It was up to the tribal elders to decide what to do with the body. If they decided to keep it, they did. If they decided not to keep it, they could burn it or, in some cases, carry it by horse to a certain riverbank and leave it there for various animals, and so on.
1:13:49 Orgisha about bees and honey.
Maxim: Sergei Baidikov asks: “Were there bees in those days?”
Irina: I'll show her now. Were there bees back then?
Maxim: These are striped flies that make honey.
Irina (Orgisha): Yes, there were, but they were somewhat larger—like hornets. They nested in tree hollows, like wasps, and could extract honey. We had some skilled bees who could approach a hive and mentally address them, and the bees would let them take some of the honey. But only some, because if a person began to destroy their hive, their nest, they could attack him. So it was quite a dangerous undertaking...
1:14:58 Orgisha about the duration of pregnancy for women in those days, about her appearance.
Maxim: How long did pregnancy last for women then?
Irina (Orgisha): About ten lunar months. Not lunar, but the ones we had – determined by the Moon, Venus, and the Sun.
Maxim: So, about ten months—nine months for us. That's how it works out, I get it.
And now a very interesting question. Please describe yourself, or you, Irina, describe her as she sees herself. Let her describe herself – height, eyes, skin color.
Irina: She shows me a woman with black hair, but for some reason, with light, porcelain-like skin. For some reason, her face is small and round. She's tall.
Maxim: Beautiful? European-looking?
Irina: She's like a doll. She has a childish expression, small lips, medium-sized eyes, and they're kind of light brown, greenish (she's showing me now).
1:16:28 Spiritual levels of the Tisul princess.
Maxim: Tell me, please, from what spiritual level did you incarnate as the Tisul princess, and to what spiritual level did you leave?
Irina (Orgisha): I incarnated into the Tisul princess, according to the terminology of the Interstellar Union, from the 12th level.
Maxim: And did you leave the incarnation, did you become disembodied?
Irina (Orgisha): On the 16th.
1:16:50 Orgisha on marriage in the Arghi tribe.
Maxim: Tell me, please, were marriages formal back then, or were they open relationships? How many women could a man have in a family?
Irina (Orgisha): It was a mutual decision between the man and woman, but it wasn't common for us to have multiple wives or husbands, because these relationships usually began with childhood friendships. That is, children grew up in the same tribe, became friends with each other, and developed a liking for each other.
(Irina) She shows me how the “corridor” is when they look at each other and don’t notice anyone else.
(Orgisha) And when the children became adults, that is, already capable of starting a family, and decided to do so, we performed a ritual of uniting the two principles – male and female. It was performed by priests.
(Irina) I see an image of a man and a woman in white clothes, who are showered with flowers, and grain is scattered in a circle.
Maxim: In principle, we also shower newlyweds with flowers, grain and money.
Irina: She shows me that these are symbols of fertility, to strengthen this energy.
1:18:30 Conclusion.
Maxim: Well, guys, if you like our broadcasts, please don't forget to like them and subscribe to our channels – so we understand how well and competently we produce these broadcasts.
I understand that our broadcasts are watched by a lot of trolls, a lot of disgruntled people. But in any case, I send everyone the Light of my Love and send everyone into the Light. Thank you so much for being with us!
Our next broadcast will be with Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. You can post your questions here and ask him under this broadcast. I'll task our volunteers with collecting all these questions.
I think this broadcast will be absolutely fantastic, and I'm sure of it, because our interstellar curators, even Ashtar Sheran himself, said they'll tell us a lot of interesting things. I'm already looking forward to it myself. I hope there won't be anything out of the ordinary, although I can't guarantee anything. The broadcast promises to be very interesting, so tell your friends, and we'll meet on the 29th, next weekend, with Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. And I'd really like his fellow party members to be present at the meeting so they can ask him questions in person.
So bye everyone! We love you all!
Irina: Dear friends, thank you very much! My thanks also to the Tisul princess, MidgasKaus, LiShioni, and Maxim! This was very interesting information; I enjoyed listening to it.
Orgisha transmits the Light of her Love to you, thanking you for inviting her to the meeting and for your interest in her embodiment. And she says that if you're interested, she's currently at the 20th spiritual level.
Maxim: Thank you so much! I appreciate you agreeing to come to us, to this planet, and through Irina, to convey the information we received from you.
And to those who think we have schizophrenia, I send a big hello! See you at the retreats, guys!
January 22, 2023
Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova is a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, with subtle-material civilizations and with the Spiritual world;
Maxim Rusan – head of the CASSIOPEIA Project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
MidgasKaus – representative of the planet Esler, biologist, psychologist, microbiologist, specialist in alien life forms, curator of the Cassiopeia Project;
LiShioni is a representative of the planet Shimor, a specialist in the astral world and its interactions with the material world, and the curator of the Cassiopeia Project;
Orgisha (planet Selbet) is a plasmoid of the 14th density level, whose Spirit was previously incarnated in the body of the Tisul princess.
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