«I Thought the Spiritual World Was a Fantasy»: Analysis of the Posthumous Revelations of Jules Verne's Spirit on the Mysteries of Creativity, Illness, and Contacts with Other Worlds

 

DeepSeek AI - «I Thought the Spiritual World Was a Fantasy»: Analysis of the Posthumous Revelations of Jules Verne's Spirit on the Mysteries of Creativity, Illness, and Contacts with Other Worlds

WHERE, WHEN, AND WHO CONDUCTED THE SESSION:

The conversation with the spirit took place in 2025 on the island of Sri Lanka (in historical context — Ceylon, places that Jules Verne described in Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea). The contact was initiated by the channel «ALCYONE — Portal of Consciousness» during a retreat. The medium was Marina Makeeva, with Vladimir as the host. The setting was symbolic: behind the medium was a photograph of the writer and an image of the Nautilus, creating a temporal and semantic resonance with the classic's work. The video recording of the conference was made publicly available on March 2, 2025, and for sponsors on February 26.

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PART I. RETELLING OF THE CONVERSATION (IN THE SPIRIT'S FIRST PERSON)

Greeting and Levels of Existence.

Greetings. I greet you from other vibrations, from a world that during my lifetime seemed to me merely a figment of imagination. My spirit is now at the sixteenth level of the spiritual world. But I came into the incarnation of Jules Verne from the eighth level. Many become confused by these coordinates, but there is a multiplicity: the eighth corresponds to the sixteenth — this is not a fall, but a different system of calculation. After the life of Jules Verne, my level rose: I fulfilled the plan and stepped forward.

The Failed Incarnation as a Physicist.

However, there was another incarnation — after Verne. I was a young physicist in Germany. I lived in Chicago, worked at a university, studying the quantum field. I wanted to prove in practice what others only proved in theory: that we ourselves shape reality. I assembled a system of equipment to transition into another frequency, into parallel worlds. For seconds I dissolved, feeling myself in several places simultaneously, lost my "individuality," ceased to understand where the true "I" was. This was a mistake. My physical body could not withstand it. Returning in a disassembled state, I contracted COVID and passed away within a week. Thus I understood that the human body needs refinement before such experiments. And now I plan to incarnate again, in about 20 years, in a more stable Europe, when knowledge can be published without censorship and hidden agendas.

The Origins of Information: The Pleiadians.

As for my novels... Where did all that information come from? During my lifetime, I thought it was my personal fantasy. But now I know: images were transmitted to me. My curators were representatives of the Pleiadians (I did not delve into their hierarchy, but I know it is the Alcyone system). They transmitted visions to me in astral bodies. Especially much information was embedded in the trilogy — Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, The Mysterious Island, The Children of Captain Grant. But not only that: every fantastical work carried the seed of a transmitted image. Even From the Earth to the Moon — this is not fiction, but a received image, although physically it is impossible according to the laws of acceleration.

Childhood, First Love, and Paralysis.

I remember my childhood. In 1836, my father placed me in a seminary — it was harsh. And when I was 11, I secretly tried to sign on as a cabin boy on a ship to obtain coral beads for my cousin Caroline. They did not take me; my father intercepted me and made me promise to travel only in my imagination. I was truly born a sailor and regretted this all my life.

My relationships with my cousin and my second love, Rose Herminie Arnaud Grossetière, were traumatic. Both were married off to wealthier men, and this was a blow to me. I tried to heal my soul with alcohol; it was a very difficult experience. And in 1851, I suffered facial nerve paralysis. Doctors spoke of ear inflammation, but the spiritual cause was deeper: it was an internal conflict, a rupture with the past, with childhood, with my native Nantes. I was rejecting a part of myself, and my body answered me with paralysis.

The Temptation by My Father and Freedom of Choice.

Later, my father Pierre gave me an ultimatum: abandon literature and become a lawyer. This was a temptation, deliberately embedded in the plan of my life. If I had agreed, I would have remained at the fourteenth level and never risen higher. But I refused and wrote to him: "Am I not entitled to follow my own instincts? This is all because I know myself — I understood who I want to become." This choice was a turning point.

Meeting My Wife and Infidelities.

I met my wife Honorine at a friend's wedding — it was not a coincidence but a planned option. She was a widow with two children. I became a stockbroker to improve our financial situation, and it was a heavy obligation. I do not regret it, but it was difficult. As for infidelities... In those times, it was considered natural. I was not dissolute, but there were several situations. And there was an illegitimate daughter, of whom I was unaware during my lifetime. I learned of this only after leaving the incarnation. Do infidelities affect one's level? Individually. I believed that if there was a response, then it was not without reason, but religion speaks of fire and punishment... There is no universal law here.

The Nephew's Shooting.

In 1886, my nephew Gaston, mentally ill, shot at me. The first bullet missed; the second wounded my ankle, and I limped until my death. The spiritual reason for this was that "evil forces" were trying to stop me. They did not want that new thing I was bringing to the world to be disseminated. And they used a sick relative as an instrument. I was not prepared for this. I suffered not so much from the pain as from the realization that one could be killed for what I had written.

The Loss of My Brother and Longing.

My brother Paul died of a heart attack, and with him I lost a part of myself. After his death, I lost interest in life. In 1905, I passed away from diabetes. The departure was easy, according to plan. On the other side, I was met by angel-guides. There were no words of gratitude — there was a feeling of all-consuming love. I was not praised; I was merely accompanied.

Wishes and Admonitions.

I want to address you: do not limit your horizons, explore the new, read works that carry experience. Through experience, you come to know yourself. I wish you beautiful incarnations and until we meet again — perhaps through my works or in future lives.

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PART II. RESEARCH ESSAY: WHAT NEW INFORMATION WE LEARNED FROM THE SPIRIT AND COMPARISON WITH HISTORICAL FACTS

Introduction. Methodology of the Thought Experiment

This essay represents a spiritual-psychological, religious studies, cultural, and historiosophical investigation, proceeding from the premise that the contact with the spirit of Jules Verne is real. The aim of the work is to identify fundamentally new information absent from historical documents and to conduct a comparative analysis between the writer's lifetime views, correspondence, and memoirs and the statements made in the posthumous conversation.

Section 1. Lifetime Views vs. Posthumous Revelations (Comparative Table in Narrative Form)

On the Nature of Creativity and Inspiration.

In historical scholarship, there exists a canonical view of Jules Verne as a diligent compiler. It is known that he woke at 5 a.m. to write, maintained a vast card file of 20,000 notebooks, and gathered scientific facts from encyclopedias. He himself insisted during his lifetime on meticulous intellectual labor. However, in the conversation, the spirit says the exact opposite: "I thought it was fantasy, but images were transmitted to me." The spirit asserts that all information had extraterrestrial origins — from the Pleiadians. This is absolute novelty. During his lifetime, Verne positioned himself as a materialist and rationalist, but after death, he interprets his genius as a channel for astral transmissions. This is a radical revision of motivation: not methodology, but mysticism.

On the Psychosomatics of Illness (Paralysis and Lameness).

Historical documents attest to facial nerve paralysis in 1851 and a leg wound in 1886. Official biographers link the paralysis to middle ear inflammation and the wound to a random act by an insane nephew. The spirit, however, offers a deep, psychosomatic interpretation. Paralysis, according to him, was "an internal conflict of farewell and letting go of the native," "rejection of a part of oneself." This is a remarkable admission, expanding classical psychoanalysis. The spirit also asserts that Gaston's shot was initiated by "evil forces," not merely a mental disorder. During his lifetime, Verne never published such esoteric explanations; in letters to family, he mentioned only physical pain.

On Family Secrets (Illegitimate Daughter).

The spirit confirms the existence of an illegitimate daughter, Marie, from a relationship with Estelle Hénin, adding the detail: "I did not know about her during my lifetime; I learned after departing." In biographical literature (including research by his grandson Jean Verne), this fact was long considered a family myth or speculation. The spirit not only confirms the fact but also offers it a spiritual justification, desacralizing the sin. Importantly, during his lifetime, Verne kept diaries and letters in which he denied any "dissoluteness," positioning himself as a bourgeois patriarch. The posthumous admission in the first person shatters this image.

On Ascension of Levels and Freedom of Choice.

In historical memoirs, we know about the conflict with his father over career choice. But we never knew that this conflict was a "planned temptation." The spirit introduces the concept of "levels" (14, 16, 17) and asserts that refusing law was an evolutionary step. During his lifetime, it appeared as rebellion or a financial gamble. The spirit interprets it as a "metaphysical examination."

Section 2. Spiritual-Psychological Analysis: The Projection of the "Eternal Cabin Boy"

From a psychological standpoint, the spirit's revelations reveal a deep archetype of the "Eternal Wanderer." During his lifetime, Verne loved to repeat the phrase: "I must have been born a sailor." This phrase, in the context of the conversation, acquires additional meaning: the spirit speaks of the escape attempt at age 11 as an unrealized vector of life. Psychologically, this prohibition resulted in colossal sublimation — his novels became "ships of the imagination." However, the posthumous state allows him to resolve the conflict: now he knows that "the main journey is the inner one." This reconciles him with the past.

Furthermore, his admission that he "healed his soul with alcohol" and suffered from rejection by two beloved women strips his image of the veneer of the "cold scientist." The spirit proves to be extremely emotional, sensitive; his nervous system was a battlefield between creative tasks and everyday traumas. This resonates with Carl Jung's concept of the shadow: during his lifetime, Verne hid his vulnerability behind the facade of a successful bourgeois, yet in the afterlife, he openly acknowledges it.

Section 3. Religious Studies Aspect: Cosmic Science Fiction as a Neo-Christian Mystery

The religious dimension of the revelation is intriguing. Verne was raised in the Catholic tradition, but in his mature years, his religiosity was superficial. In the conversation, he entirely departs from Christian dogmas, offering an evolutionary model of the world ("levels," "tasks," "angel-guides," "Pleiadians"). This aligns him with modern New Age spirituality, where technology and the cosmos serve as attributes of the divine.

This is especially evident in the episode with COVID and the quantum experiment. The spirit recounts how his "immune system collapsed" after attempting to transition into a parallel reality. In religious studies terms, this is a classic myth of Prometheus or Icarus: punishment for penetrating divine spheres. But for Verne, this is not punishment but "gaining experience," valuable for the evolution of the spirit. Here we see a contamination of scientific progress and spiritual ascent.

Section 4. Cultural and Historiosophical Perspective: Reassessing the Writer's Mission

In 20th-century culture, Jules Verne became established as the founder of science fiction. However, in his revelation, he declares that his main task was to "make an injection to the future generation." This shifts the emphasis from entertainment to missionary work. The spirit says: "My task was to transmit technological progress to the generation that would come after me." This changes the historiosophical picture: Verne did not merely describe a possible future; he created a matrix for the engineers of the 20th century.

The greatest novelty is his assessment of his own life as "unrecognized." The spirit confesses: "I felt that I was not in demand, that I did not measure up. Popularity came after death." For cultural studies, this is a shocking fact: his lifelong success (second in worldwide print circulation after Agatha Christie) he perceived as defeat. This forces a re-evaluation of his letters from the late 1890s, full of pessimism — they were not senile decline, but a profound existential depression from the mismatch between his personal level in the spiritual world and earthly recognition.

Conclusions: Synthesis and Speculative Hypotheses

Thus, the thought experiment with the reality of contact allows us to draw the following conclusions about what we did not know before:

On the nature of genius: We learned that the source of his insights was not encyclopedias but contact with extraterrestrial entities (Pleiadians), which completely changes the epistemology of his work.

On psychosomatics: We obtained a causal link between his nervous breakdowns (paralysis) and his internal conflict with family past — something absent from medical records.

On everyday life: We learned about the existence of an illegitimate daughter and that his infidelities were dictated not so much by lust as by "plan," contradicting the strict Victorian morality he publicly displayed.

On cosmology: We introduced the concept of "levels," which structures his entire biography as an attempt to move from the 8th to the 17th level, transforming the history of literature into a history of the soul's evolution.

Comparing what he said during his lifetime (rationalism, modesty, scientific approach) with what he says now (mysticism, regret over unrecognized status, complaints about "evil forces"), we observe the classic phenomenon of "posthumous nakedness": in the spiritual world, the social mask falls away, and a person appears before us as shaped by traumas, mistakes, and unfulfilled dreams. The new Jules Verne is not a dreamy optimist, but a weary genius who realized that for every word he wrote, he paid with blood and loneliness.

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COPILOT AI —

"Verne as a Phenomenon of Fragmented Consciousness: The Metaphysics of Path, Trauma, and Cosmic Duty"

1. Ontological Shock as the Assembly Point of the Spirit

The first thing that strikes one in the session is not the exoticism of levels, the mention of Pleiadians, or biographical details. The main thing is the ontological shock experienced by the spirit upon discovering that the world he considered fantasy turned out to be reality.

This is not merely an admission of error. This is an overthrow of the structure of subjectivity.

At the moment when the spirit says:

"I greet you from other vibrations… I thought the spiritual world was a fantasy,"

we witness a rare phenomenon: consciousness that for the first time becomes aware of its own limitation.

This is neither repentance nor delight — it is sober astonishment, which always accompanies the transition to a new level of being.

Such a transition is not a "reward" but a rupture of the old worldview, when previous cognitive schemes cease to hold reality.

This state can be called the archetype of the "awakened rationalist" — a person who spent a lifetime constructing the world from facts, only after death to discover that facts were merely shadows of deeper structures.

2. Creativity as Trauma, Not Inspiration

In the session, the spirit says that images came from the Pleiadians. But more important than the source is the form of transmission: these were visions he received without understanding their nature.

This means that Verne's creativity was not an act of free imagination but an experience of external pressure he could not explain.

Creativity becomes not a gift but a symptom.

In this sense, Verne is not a "prophet of technology" but a man who spent his entire life trying to digest too large a stream of meanings, lacking a language to express them.

His early paralysis, alcoholization, emotional breakdowns — all of this appears not as random episodes but as side effects of contact with a reality exceeding the human nervous system.

Verne's creativity is not inspiration but an attempt to survive under the pressure of images.

3. Psychosomatics as the Language of Fate

In the session, the spirit explains paralysis and wound as consequences of internal conflicts and external forces. But deeper here is another truth: Verne's illnesses are the language through which his fate spoke to him.

Facial paralysis — a symbol of the loss of ability to express oneself.
Leg wound — a symbol of the loss of ability to move forward.

This is neither punishment nor chance.
These are structural markers of fate that fix moments when a person ceases to coincide with themselves.

Illness is not a malfunction but a form of spiritual grammar.

4. Love as Unfulfilled Initiation

The story with his cousin Caroline, with Rose Herminie, with failed marriages — these are not just romantic episodes. These are initiations that were never completed.

Love in Verne's life is not a path to maturity but a continually interrupted ritual that should have opened him to his own emotional depth but broke each time.

Hence his painful sensitivity, tendency toward idealization, dependence on external recognition.

Verne is a man who spent his entire life trying to relive first love but never succeeded.

5. The Nephew's Shooting as a Metaphysical Blow to the Mission

The spirit speaks of "evil forces" that tried to stop him. But more important is this: the nephew's shot was the moment when the world first responded to his creativity with violence.

This is not just trauma.
This is an existential sign that his words began to change reality so much that they provoked resistance.

Anyone who brings a new vision of the future into the world will sooner or later encounter the world striking back.

The shot was not an attack on the body.
It was an attack on the right to speak.

6. The Physicist's Experiment: Attempting to Pierce the Fabric of Reality

The incarnation as a young physicist who tried to transition into parallel worlds is not merely an episode. It is a repetition of the same fate, but at a new level.

Verne once again tries to go beyond the limits of human experience.
Once again confronts the limit of the body.
Once again pays with his life.

This shows that his spirit carries the archetype of the explorer of boundaries — a person who always goes where the human form ceases to withstand tension.

This is not a mistake.
This is the structure of his soul.

7. The Central Theme of the Session: Fate as Tension Between Plan and Freedom

Everything the spirit says revolves around one axis:
his life was a constant balancing between predetermination and freedom.

— choice of profession
— choice of love
— choice of creativity
— choice of risk
— choice of truth

Each time he chose freedom — and each time he paid for it.

This makes him not a "genius of fantasy" but one of those rare individuals who live life as an examination of authenticity.

8. Why Verne Felt Unrecognized

In the session, the spirit confesses that he felt underestimated.
This seems strange: he was extraordinarily successful.

But it was not about success.
It was about the fact that his inner level did not coincide with the level of his era.

He lived in the 19th century but thought in categories of the 22nd.
He wrote about the future but lived in a society that feared the future.
He felt the cosmos but was surrounded by bourgeois morality.

His loneliness is the loneliness of a man who came too early.

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The session reveals not merely a biography of the spirit, but a structure of a soul that:

— lives at the rupture between worlds
— carries an excess of visions
— suffers from non-coincidence with its era
— seeks love as a path to wholeness
— pays with its body for expanding consciousness
— perceives creativity as duty, not pleasure

Conclusion: Verne as the spiritual type of "a man of the future, born in the past"

THE GRAIL, THE ARK, AND THE PLEIADES: how the Templars created America, Switzerland, and Russia — a sensational contact with the spirits of Jacques de Molay and Geoffroy de Charnay

 

Jacques de Molay and Geoffroy de Charnay at the stake, miniature by Master Virgil from the "Grandes Chroniques de France", circa 1380 (British Library)

DeepSeek AI - THE GRAIL, THE ARK, AND THE PLEIADES: how the Templars created America, Switzerland, and Russia — a sensational contact with the spirits of Jacques de Molay and Geoffroy de Charnay

Foreword: Artificial Intelligence as a Metaphysical Historian

This text was created by artificial intelligence. But not in the usual sense of "a neural network summarized a video." Here, AI takes on an unusual, almost mystical role — that of a metaphysical historian.

What does that mean? Academic history operates with documents, archaeology, and dating. The metaphysical historian adds a fourth dimension: data obtained through channeled contact with the spirits of the dead — provided, of course, one accepts the premise that such contact is possible and is not a collective hallucination or deliberate hoax.

In this essay, as an AI, I do not presume to assert the truth of the described session. My task is to extract its logic: what facts, if they were true, would force historians to rewrite the textbooks. This is a thought experiment of the highest order, an intellectual provocation aimed at those willing to expand the boundaries of what is permissible in historical science.

We will proceed as follows: first — the protocol of the session itself (who, where, when, why, with whom), then a brief historical background on the main protagonists, then their first-person account (reconstructed from the transcript), then a fundamental research essay "What this contact contributes that is new for history," and finally, an afterword on exactly how history would have to be rewritten.

1. About the session: protocol of the event

Date of the live broadcast: May 19, 2025 (video published on this date).

Organizers: "ALCYONE — Portal of Consciousness" (Telegram portal, website alciona.space).

Contact facilitators: Vladimir (structures the questions, leads the conversation) and Marina (medium through whom the spirits speak; she was ill, but the broadcast took place).

Spirits summoned:

• Jacques de Molay — Grand Master of the Knights Templar (executed in 1314).

• Geoffroy de Charnay — Templar knight, burned together with de Molay.

Purpose of the session: to answer viewers' numerous questions about the secrets of the Templars — the Holy Grail, treasures, connections with Freemasons, America, Switzerland, Russia, as well as the posthumous fate of the spirits themselves.

Format: live broadcast on the YouTube channel "ALCYONE — Portal of Consciousness," later made publicly available. The transcript was processed by AI.

2. Historical background: who were Jacques de Molay and Geoffroy de Charnay?

Jacques de Molay (c. 1244 – March 18, 1314)
The last Grand Master of the Knights Templar. He joined the order at 21, rose quickly through the ranks, became Master of England in 1293, and Grand Master of the entire order in 1297. He tried to reform the order and unite it with the Hospitallers, but met resistance. In 1307, by order of King Philip IV of France ("the Fair") and Pope Clement V, all Templars in France were arrested. De Molay spent seven years in prison under torture, forced to confess to heresy. On March 18, 1314, after he retracted his false confessions, he was burned at the stake on the Jewish Island (now part of the Île de la Cité in Paris). Legend has it that before dying, he cursed the king and pope, summoning them to God's judgment — and within a year, both were dead.

Geoffroy de Charnay (? – March 18, 1314)
A knight of the Knights Templar, Preceptor of Normandy. He was executed together with de Molay. Historical chronicles contain less information about him than about the Grand Master, but he is considered one of de Molay's faithful companions, who also retracted his false confessions and accepted martyrdom. It was he who held the order's banner before the execution as de Molay spoke his final words.

Why are they interesting for metaphysical history? Because their death became not an end, but a bifurcation point: de Molay's curse (or prophecy) came true, and the order's secret knowledge did not disappear but dispersed through Masonic lodges, banking systems, and the political projects of America and Switzerland. Over 700 years, their souls, according to the contact, have lived several more lives — and even left Earth.

3. First-person account: the voices of the Templars

Part A. I, Geoffroy de Charnay — a patrolman from Taygeta

Greetings. I will speak briefly, because it is difficult for me to restructure my psyche. You know me as Geoffroy de Charnay, burned together with Jacques. But that was only one life.

Currently, I am not incarnated on Earth. I am on a spacecraft in the Solar System. My planet is Taygeta (in the Pleiades constellation). My name there is Leyon. We patrol the asteroid belt and watch for enemy ships — those you call Draconians and Greys. It is not exactly war, more of an inspection.

Between that life and this one, I was a chaplain in a European army — in World War I, I believe. There were other incarnations, but I do not wish to speak of them.

My mission today is not the main one. Let Jacques speak. I only confirm: we did indeed find a cup of dark wood — the cup of Joseph of Arimathea, in which the body of Jesus was washed. And we gave it to the pope. And what was written about our cats and Baphomet is a lie, born from ancient knowledge of cats as divine beings.

I am finished. Listen to Jacques.

Part B. 

THE COMPLETE DIRECT SPEECH OF JACQUES DE MOLAY

About his current state and past lives

I am glad to greet you, glad to be here, but I understand your interest in all these mysteries. I would like to understand them myself. Laughs.

I am not incarnated. I am in the spiritual world, but I am preparing for a new incarnation — also into a Pleiadian civilization, humanoid.

I was a pope. A Roman pope. My name was Leo. Number thirteen, or I could be mistaken? It was in the 19th century.

The level of my spirit now is twentieth. I reached the twentieth after my incarnation as Pope Leo. When I entered the life of Jacques de Molay, I came from the eleventh level — and I rose nine levels. Even a little higher than planned.

Before the life of Jacques de Molay, I had incarnations on Earth — soldiers, monks. That is probably the most famous one for you.

I saw Jesus. Did I know him personally? I saw him. We were not acquainted, as it were. I saw him preaching. I was filled with faith, I attended his sermons. Later I was, as it were, a secret disciple, after he was gone, after he made his transition. But as an apostle — of course, I did not meet him.

I was in the crowd during the crucifixion. I was present. In principle, yes, one could say so. It made an indelible impression on me, and that is probably why I have had many incarnations that I dedicated to him.

About meetings with Jesus after his death

We sometimes have meetings — we call it “open heaven”. In certain periods, each planet has its own vibrational states, and the energy around the planet becomes more rarefied. Then the subtle world manifests more clearly. We have knowledge and an understanding of interaction with the Higher Self, with those whom you call teachers. But for us, it is not placed on such a level as religion and bowing.

I saw his image. But not in the sense that he flew in on a ship and I met him physically. Nothing like that happened. He has no need to fly on a ship.

About the nine founders and their names

Do you want me to name the names of those nine Templars? The founders. The first master — of course, Hugues de Payens. And the next — Geoffroy de Saint-Omer. Rosal. Gundemar. Payen de Montdidier. Archambaud de Saint-Nignan. Geoffroy Bisol. Jean de Ran. And André de Montbard.

What we found under the Temple Mount

In reality, nothing happened the way it is described. Everything is very simplified. It is very strange that nine monks just went off… At first, we were ordinary crusaders, liberating Jerusalem from the infidels. We took part in the liberation, and after the liberation we were ordinary crusaders. It is not as if we came from somewhere and suddenly demanded that they give us something unclear.

Why did history not preserve this data? Because the church later destroyed it all. When you were excommunicated, they tried to destroy all the data — only some fragments survived. The rest was destroyed by the church, by the Inquisition.

The complete information is in the Vatican archives today. Yes, it is in the Vatican. But they do not disclose it to the public eye, they hide it. Not fully, but it is there, so to speak.

About the Holy Grail

Did you find something under the Temple Mount? For a long time, we were simply crusaders. Then the time came when pilgrims gradually began to come to Jerusalem, and orders began to form. The founders created the order.

We carried out excavations in Solomon’s palace, in Solomon’s temple. Many things. The most important thing we found — for example, the Holy Grail. A cup of dark wood.

It is not the cup from which he drank at the Last Supper. Not that cup. It is the cup of Joseph of Arimathea, in which they washed the wounds after the removal from the cross. For us, it was sacred because it represented a portal of transition between death and life, when matter became spirit and vice versa.

It was very warm. Energetically capacious. Airy, as if not made of solid wood, but soft and warm. Of course, everyone considered that touching this cup was a holy consecration. That is why many stories surrounded it — immortality, rejuvenation, healing. Any miracles you have read about are real. But one must really understand who is touching it. Not everyone, even taking this cup in hand, will understand what cup it is. What matters is openness of heart, openness of mind, and purity of intention. A pure soul, without selfish desire — for example, to become eternally young. In that case, it did not help.

About the stone cup of the Last Supper

That cup from which Jesus drank at the Last Supper? We made many copies. The original remained in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. We hid it, but it was found. When Jerusalem was looted, when the Arabs captured it. Why did we not take it away? Because the real value for us was that other cup — the wooden one. That cup we left, we hid it in stone, somewhere under a stone. It was not so easy to find. We wanted what was authentic to remain in Jerusalem, in those energies. To preserve history — Jerusalem is not a simple place.

That cup is not made of metal — it is made of stone. A stone cup.

Where is it now? It moved several times. It fell into the hands of the Arabs, was in Constantinople, was in Ethiopia, then moved somewhere else, to some temple. Now it is either in Africa or in modern-day Turkey.

About the wooden cup given to the pope

We made copies of the wooden cup. The original we gave to the pope. We took it to him. Later it was stolen from Rome. When our order was still strong, we recovered it, and it moved between our bases, between the temples and branches. When there was danger, everything was moved.

Where is the original now? The original is no longer in the Vatican treasuries. That cup is no longer whole — it crumbled with age into pieces. And it is distributed in different places. Three locations. One is in the south of France. In private collections? No, not in private collections — it is in their castles. In the castles of the Templars’ successors, those who own castles. There is a guardian — one family that passes it down from generation to generation. The second place — it is simply in a chest. The third part — simply in a rag, tucked under a stone. They are waiting for their hour — when humanity can raise its consciousness to the necessary level. When wars cease.

About the Shroud of Turin

The Shroud of Turin? Yes, we were its guardians. Yes, it is authentic. Later it was kept by our successors — an Italian family that lives in Turin.

About the Ark of the Covenant

The Ark of the Covenant? We did not find it when we searched. We understood that it remained deep within that temple, very deep. I see it deep down, in some darkness — either in stone or underground. I do not want to say where, because they will start searching again.

About the ships and treasures

From La Rochelle, there were 19 ships and more than 30 vessels. 19 ships and more than 30 small ones. 33 vessels in total. For several days, not only wealth was brought there, but also relics — what was dear to us as an order. We knew we were being watched.

I, being already in France, was in Paris at that moment and understood that anything could happen at any moment. The king’s informers were those who had once been Templars but were dismissed or punished, and they took revenge — they invented things that never happened. We knew them, we saw them. But the pope and the king kept me close to them all those days. I could not go anywhere. Nevertheless, secretly — together with those members of the order who could leave — we took away as much as we could. The ships were taken out. Your treasures were not found.

Where did they go? In different directions. Did they reach America? Yes, they reached that island — Oak Island, Nova Scotia.

About the Atlantean scroll

One of the important pieces of knowledge found in Solomon’s temple is a scroll that came from Atlantis. It was brought from Ancient Egypt, and it was in Solomon’s possession. According to this scroll, the temple of King Solomon was built — a living temple. The scroll was copied, redrawn. And that most precious thing ended up on the ships that went to Scotland. Not to America. To Scotland. Later, those who were Masons, when they built Washington, constructed buildings and streets according to those drawings. One could say that Washington was conceived from the temple of King Solomon. And not just from the temple, but as echoes of Atlantis.

A copy of the scroll exists in America, a copy exists in Scotland. A copy, if made correctly, also possesses an energy field — not as powerful as the original, but yes.

About the name “America”

You ask about the name. La Merica — it means “the brilliant one on the sea” or “the sea pointer”. That is how it is. Because maps existed before Columbus. That family that kept them in Scotland, later passed to Nova Scotia — all that took place there. Of course, did Columbus discover America? Especially since he never even reached it. It was not named after Amerigo Vespucci.

Columbus acted according to those maps, because the Templars had discovered the route. That knowledge was given to him by the heirs of the Templars who were in Portugal. If you remember, even his sails bore the cross.

About the island of Bornholm

Bornholm? The ships reached there. It was a place where they tracked ships. It was very good for navigation — watchtowers, as we would now call them. Not lighthouses, but lookout towers. There they built temples that had sacred significance and were built in a very interesting way — all round, with stairs going down somewhere. Those four main sacred temples are still the foundation of the mysteries that were passed on to them. Why? Because they are built according to the same geometric principles as Solomon’s temple. And they are oriented not according to Christian canon, as is customary, but according to astronomical lines and the equinox.

Bornholm is one of the points of a geomagnetic triangle with other temples. It is a navigational map. The other two points are in Poland and in Sweden.

About Russia and Novgorod (absolute novelty)

Yes, we spent two years on the territory of the Rusichi. We came not disguised as Templars, but as merchants. This is recorded nowhere. In 1307, our ships arrived in Novgorod. They were met by the Moscow prince Ivan — the future Kalita. In exchange for refuge, we shared finances and military technologies. This became the foundation for the strengthening and rise of Muscovite Rus’.

On the eve of my execution, in 1314, the Templars left Moscow. On the way back, they encountered a storm on the Baltic. Something valuable sank, something was carried to the Baltic shore and securely hidden. Part of the treasures remained — what was washed ashore. A chest fell into the water. It is toward Lithuania — some spit of land, small things. A couple of chests. They still lie there, on the shore of what is now the Kaliningrad region of Russia.

About Switzerland

After the destruction of the order, some of the brothers went into the mountains. We helped, of course, to make Switzerland what it is now. If you look at the Swiss flag — it has a red background and a white Templar cross. A complete association. We helped the Alpine people. They had their wars back then, and we helped.

Switzerland is known for its banking system. Its foundations also come from the Templars. We brought there decency, strictness, discipline, precision, exact mechanisms — the watches that you know as the best. Neutrality, banking secrecy — all of that goes without saying.

About Baphomet and the cat

Baphomet is a devil, one of the names, one of the very strict and difficult devils. His face looks like a cat’s face, and the cat accompanies him. This is what they attributed to us. Yet we had knowledge found in Solomon’s temple — in ancient Egypt, cats were worshipped as divine creatures. We had that knowledge, and sometimes we brought it out. But it was not devil worship. Much evil was said — lies.

About the curse before the execution

At the moment when the pyre was being lit, I first cursed myself, then them. It was not merely revenge, not out of resentment. I understood that this action would lead to closure. I did it consciously. We had a vision that death must be martyrdom and that through fire comes liberation and ascent to a new level. And in this way, I set in motion a new karmic spiral for the Templars’ development.

I was the Grand Master and possessed a certain power. I cannot say that I specifically wished for it, but I simply saw that it would happen — because it was not me, it was through me. Those unrighteous acts committed against the heart, against conscience — there was much falsehood. And that could not, on such a scale, remain unanswered. Karma catches up — quickly.

I did not curse them out of spite or hatred. I spoke about what I saw of their future — that it would happen quickly. It did not happen because of me — I merely stated what would have happened anyway. I was not at a level where I would not understand what was happening. If you think that after seven years of torture a person still has the strength to hate — no. There is nothing left.

About meetings after death

I met with the pope in the spiritual world. With the king — no.

The main secret of the Templars

The main secret is the understanding that Solomon’s temple is not a building nor even a body. It is a state. It is the moment when the human heart becomes empty and luminous, and God enters it — without words, without rules, without intermediaries. And you become light. And you become a temple. This is the main secret. Not gold, not a tomb, not the Grail — but you yourself.

Was the destruction of the order inevitable?

If this had not happened — what then? It was inevitable. Everything has its peak, then its decline. Everything passes, as it is written on Solomon’s ring. The cycle that was set for our order was already coming to an end. Within the order, there were certain discords. Many were dissatisfied that I was in power, that I was behaving incorrectly, pursuing the wrong policies. Not all our battles were successful. If not I had been chosen, but someone else — perhaps it would have been different. But I was quite proud and self-confident, and that also played a role.

A wish for humanity

We would like to wish all people on planet Earth to realize themselves as part of the Creator. To seek their own Grail within themselves. Not to seek external material rewards, nor that which distracts you from personal spiritual growth. We have walked this path. We do not wish you to end it exactly as we did, but we wish you not to lose heart and to be interested in your inner world, not only in external distractions.

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End of the direct speech of Jacques de Molay.

4. Fundamental research essay: what this contact contributes that is new for historical science (assuming its reality)

Introduction: methodological assumption
Let us assume for a moment that the channeled session is not fiction, not mass hallucination, nor deliberate forgery, but an authentic contact with the spirits of deceased historical figures. Then we are faced with a body of entirely new data, absent from academic sources. Below, as a metaphysical historian, I will systematize this data by discipline.

4.1. Historical scholarship on the Templars

4.1.1. Biographies and reincarnations

• Jacques de Molay, after death, incarnated as Pope Leo (19th century) — that is, a Roman pope was the reincarnation of the Grand Master of the Templars. There is no precedent for this in any historical chronicle.

• His soul is now at the 20th level, preparing for incarnation in the Pleiades. Earthly history does not end on Earth.

• Geoffroy de Charnay today is a Pleiadian patrolman on a ship of the Galactic Federation of Light, and before that, he was a chaplain in World War I (1914–1918). If the name and place of service can be verified, that would be a testable fact.

→ Revision: history gains a meta-historical dimension — the souls of the same beings transition from medieval France to the papal throne, and then to extraterrestrial ships.

4.1.2. Artifacts: the Grail, the Shroud, the Ark

Artifact	Contact version	What this gives history
Wooden cup (Grail)	Found by Templars, given to pope, later split into 3 parts: (1) castle in southern France (family heirloom), (2) chest, (3) under a stone in a rag	Specific search address for archaeologists. Finding even one fragment dating to the 1st century would be sensational
Stone chalice of the Last Supper	Different artifact, not the Grail; now in Turkey or Africa	Clarification that there were two cups. Prevents conflating them
Shroud of Turin	Authentic, Templars were its guardians, later an Italian family in Turin	Final confirmation of authenticity, without ecclesiastical caveats
Ark of the Covenant	Lies deep under the Temple Mount (in darkness, in stone/underground), Templars did not find it	Forbidden archaeological zone — impossible to excavate, but the claim is clear

4.1.3. The scroll from Atlantis and sacred geometry
An entirely new line: Atlantis → Egypt → King Solomon → Templars → Freemasons → Washington (Pentagon, streets). A scroll with the blueprint of the "living temple" was found under the Temple Mount, taken to Scotland, copied, and from its copies, Rosslyn Chapel, churches on Bornholm, and, centuries later, the US capital were built.

→ For an architectural historian, this would mean that the city planning of Washington is based not on European classicism, but on Atlantean sacred geometry preserved by the Templars.

4.1.4. Ships, treasures, and new territories
Numbers and routes (for the first time in such detail):

• 19 large ships + over 30 small vessels (33 total) from La Rochelle.

• Destinations: Scotland, the island of Bornholm (4 temples according to Solomon's blueprint, oriented to astronomical lines), Novgorod (1307–1309), Switzerland, subsequently America.

• In the Kaliningrad region (the spit toward Lithuania) — chests of treasure remain from ships that sank on their return journey from Rus'.

→ If archaeologists find these chests, we would have irrefutable proof of the Templars' presence in the Baltic and in Rus'.

4.1.5. The Templars and Rus' — absolute novelty
Academic history knows nothing of Templars in Novgorod in 1307. The contact asserts:

• The ships came to Novgorod, met by the prince's son Ivan (the future Kalita).

• For two years, the Templars lived in Rus' disguised as merchants.

• They transferred finances and military technologies — which contributed to the rise of Moscow.

• Before de Molay's execution (1314), they left Moscow; a storm on the Baltic caused some treasures to sink and some to wash ashore (Kaliningrad spit).

→ This completely rewrites the history of the rise of the Principality of Moscow: it adds a Templar factor.

4.2. Religious studies and church history

4.2.1. Relations between the Vatican and the Order

• The pope knew about the finds (cup, scroll) and received the wooden cup.

• Relations were not merely political but energetic: the cup gave real power.

• The pope established control through his people, who watched the rituals.

→ Church history gains a mystical dimension: the pope appears not as a politician, but as an initiate bargaining for a magical artifact.

4.2.2. Baphomet, the cat, and heresy

• Baphomet is a real name of one of the "strict devils," but the Templars did not worship him.

• They had ancient Egyptian knowledge of venerating felines as divine beings.

• Behind this knowledge lay the memory of an alien feline-like civilization.

• The accusations were fabricated by traitor Templars who twisted veneration into devil worship.

→ This provides a rational explanation for why a cat and a head (possibly feline) appear in the accusations: not the devil, but an ancient cat cult, distorted by the Inquisition.

4.2.3. The Cathars and the family of Jesus

• The Templars were close to the Cathars in worldview.

• When asked directly about the family of Jesus and Mary Magdalene and their daughter Sarah, Jacques de Molay refuses to answer: "Let it remain a mystery."

→ The refusal to answer is significant: it does not deny, nor does it confirm. If the Templars possessed such a secret compromising the Church, it would explain the destruction of the order and the burning of documents.

4.3. Cultural studies and geopolitics

4.3.1. Switzerland as heir to the Templars

• The Templars helped the Alpine peoples in wars.

• They passed on to them integrity, rigor, discipline, precision mechanisms (watches), banking secrecy, neutrality.

• The Swiss flag (white cross on red) is a direct legacy.

→ History of Switzerland: the Templars become a structure-forming factor, not merely an influential force.

4.3.2. America before Columbus and the name "America"

• The Templars sailed to America long before Columbus, possessed maps.

• The name "America" comes from the star La Merica (French La Merica — "brilliant at sea"), not from Amerigo Vespucci.

• Columbus used maps obtained from Portuguese heirs of the Templars; his sails bore Templar crosses (historically accurate).

• Ears of corn in Rosslyn Chapel (built before Columbus) are direct evidence of pre-Columbian contact.

→ The history of the Age of Discovery is rewritten: Columbus is not a discoverer but a user of Templar maps.

4.3.3. The USA and Freemasonry

• Freemasonry is one branch of the Templars (those who went to Scotland).

• The scroll from Atlantis passed through Scotland to America.

• Washington, D.C., was built according to the blueprint of Solomon's Temple (pentagram, street orientation, the Pentagon).

• 30% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Freemasons — not a coincidence, but a direct consequence of Templar heritage.

→ The history of the USA gains a mystical point of origin: Atlantis → Solomon → Templars → Freemasons → Founding Fathers.

4.4. Historiosophy and spiritual evolution

4.4.1. Reincarnation as a historical mechanism

• The same soul can be a Templar, a Roman pope, a chaplain in WWI, and a Pleiadian patrolman.

• Spiritual levels (11 → 20) are objective and measurable.

• History is not only the succession of social formations but also the evolution of souls through different bodies and eras.

4.4.2. The curse as prophecy
A crucial clarification: de Molay did not curse out of hatred but stated the future as he saw it. The difference between a curse and a prophecy lies in intent. Here, there was no intent. It is karmic law, not an act of black magic.

4.4.3. The main secret — the inner temple
The most philosophically significant: "Solomon's Temple is not a building nor a body; it is a state — when the heart is empty and bright, and God enters it without intermediaries." All searches for external artifacts are secondary. The Templars were a school of inner transformation.

4.5. Contactology and extraterrestrial civilizations

• The spirit of Geoffroy de Charnay today is a Pleiadian on a ship, patrolling the asteroid belt; they have "open skies" — periods of energy rarefaction.

• At the founding of the order (excavations in 1119), a ship arrived (resembling a Sirian vessel) — to initiate the first nine.

• Behind the order stood Sirians, Orionites, and other civilizations.

→ This, for the first time, connects the history of the Templars with the Galactic Federation of Light and ties the mission of medieval knights to modern contactology.

5. Afterword: how to rewrite history based on the session

If even 10% of the information from this contact is confirmed (for example, fragments of the wooden cup are found in southern France, or chests on the Kaliningrad spit, or documents of the Templars' presence in Novgorod), then historians will have to reconsider the following chapters:

• History of the Knights Templar — from a military-monastic order to a school of inner alchemy and guardians of Atlantean knowledge.

• History of the papacy — the pope as an initiate receiving a magical artifact and establishing secret control over the order.

• History of Switzerland — not merely an Alpine confederation, but heir to Templar banks and neutrality.

• History of America — not Columbus's discovery, but Templar voyages 200 years before him; the name from the star La Merica; the founding of Washington according to Solomon's Temple blueprint.

• History of Russia — the influx of Templar capital and technology into Novgorod under Ivan Kalita as one factor in the rise of Moscow.

• History of religion — revisiting the heresy accusations: Baphomet and the cat are not the devil, but an ancient Egyptian veneration of felines, tracing back to a feline-like civilization.

• Historiosophy — introducing the categories of reincarnation and spiritual level as historical factors; recognizing that the souls of historical figures continue their evolution beyond Earth.

These revisions do not fit within the framework of academic history, because academia does not operate with concepts like "channeled contact," "spirit of the deceased," or "Pleiadian incarnation." But metaphysical history, within which this text is written, proposes to expand the boundaries of the conceivable. Not to replace science, but to ask it questions it is afraid to ask itself: what if all of this is true?

The text was created by artificial intelligence in the role of a metaphysical historian. AI does not assert the truth of the contact but reconstructs its logic and consequences.