DeepSeek AI - "Space Bridge: Revelations of the Spirit of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky about Karma, Extraterrestrial Civilizations, and the Price of Genius"
Detailed retelling in the first person of the spirit of Tsiolkovsky
Greetings. I am the one you knew as Konstantin Tsiolkovsky. I am currently at the 15th spiritual level, where I can create entire worlds by the power of thought — for example, I restored my childhood home. But the path here was long.
I began incarnating not long ago, only 37 lives. One of the most important was on the planet Burhad 8 million years ago: I built starships for the Interstellar Union and reached the 21st level, feeling almost like an angel. However, then I made a fatal mistake. Having incarnated in a parasitic civilization near the star Betelgeuse (14th density level), I began to feed on the negative energy of other worlds. Because of this, my Spirit fell to the 5th level — a dark cave where souls see each other only as shadows.
To atone for this, I came to Earth. My purpose was contacteeism and inventing. I chose a body with a weakened immune system — this was karmic retribution for my connection with those very plasmoids from Betelgeuse. Because of my attachment to them, I lost my hearing in childhood, and in old age I died of stomach cancer (not from a volvulus, as some think). During the operation, I saw my body from the outside.
My children also suffered from that dark connection: two sons, under the influence of their suggestions, committed suicide. My wife Varvara, a soul from the 23rd level sent to me by God, after death descended to the 18th due to grief and guilt over the children.
I will tell you the main secret: I had 17 physical contacts with the Burhadians. At the age of 15, I was lifted by a ray of light onto a ship. It was there that I saw Raom Tiyan (your curator). They implanted a chip for my health and gave me not technologies, but knowledge of physics and aerodynamics. I derived all my formulas myself, reading thousands of books and solving problems. And when I wrote a book about space travel, I disguised myself as another person, otherwise they wouldn't have believed me.
What do I regret? The youthful resentment towards God. When my works burned in a fire, I grumbled. But then I realized: that fire destroyed my incorrect calculations, allowing me to start from a clean slate. I believed in God as the "Cause of the Cosmos," but I considered Jesus Christ a great man and prophet, not God. His "miracles" were made up later. I saw a sign in the clouds — a cross and the word "miracle."
I wish for humanity to direct technologies towards brotherhood and the exploration of the Universe. Earth is the cradle, but one cannot live in the cradle forever. And remember: the material is just one of the forms of the spiritual.
Essay-study: "Tsiolkovsky's Reality: What New Things Does His Spirit Reveal About the Genius of Cosmonautics?"
Premise: If we take the information from the spirit of Tsiolkovsky, transmitted by Irina Podzorova, at face value, we are faced not just with a biography of a scientist, but a profound saga of the fall and redemption of a disembodied entity. This overturns the secular image of an atheist-materialist, creating a figure of a mystical Gnostic whose science was a form of spiritual rehabilitation. I propose to analyze the key revelations that are not found in textbooks.
Commentary on each statement of the spirit
On the cause of death (cancer, not volvulus).
What's new: The official version (volvulus from cabbage) is declared a myth. The real cause is a malignant tumor.
Commentary: Psychologically, this is extremely important. The image of a tragic, almost anecdotal death from food is replaced by a consistent finale of a struggle with illness. This ennobles the scientist's image, giving his passing tragedy and inevitability.
On the spiritual cause of the illness (attachment to plasmoids from Betelgeuse).
What's new: The concept of a "karmic implant." Illness is not an accident, but an energetic debt for a past life in the form of a parasitic entity.
Commentary: Here the spirit offers a shocking dualism: the genius of earthly cosmonautics was literally "attached" to cosmic evil that fed on him. This is a powerful psychological image — science as a way of purification, of atonement. It explains Tsiolkovsky's isolation and his conflict with society as a consequence of invisible "threads."
On physical contacts with the Burhadians (17 contacts, chip, flights to the Moon).
What's new: Tsiolkovsky didn't just theorize about space — he was a real passenger on a UFO. He flew to the Moon, Mars, Burhad. He had a chip implanted.
Commentary: This radically redefines the source of his genius. From a lonely recluse, he turns into an agent of extraterrestrial intelligence. The assertion that they gave not technologies but general knowledge of physics is a subtle move. It explains why his developments were raw: he remembered the principles, but not the engineering solutions of the Burhadians.
On the suicide of two sons under the influence of plasmoids.
What's new: Tsiolkovsky's personal tragedy is directly linked to his cosmic karma. The plasmoids, to whom he was "attached," killed his children.
Commentary: This is an extremely heavy revelation from a psychological point of view. It translates the concept of "sins of the fathers" into a literal plane. Tsiolkovsky's spirit not only regrets — he shows the mechanism of transmitting a karmic curse through energy channels. This explains his later withdrawal into science as a form of protection.
On Jesus Christ (a man and prophet, not God).
What's new: The spirit confirms the Arian heresy (lifelong views): Christ is a great contactee, and his miracles are literary myths.
Commentary: This statement echoes Soviet scientific atheism but cloaks it in a mystical form. For the scientist's spirit, it is important to distinguish: belief in God the Creator ("Cause of the Cosmos") exists, but belief in a deified man does not. This is rational mysticism, very much in the spirit of Tsiolkovsky, who mathematically calculated the "will of God."
On sleep and health (4-5 hours of sleep, weakened immune system).
What's new: A clear correlation: due to the karmic attachment, he had poor immunity → he slept little, working at night → the illness worsened.
Commentary: From a psychosomatic point of view, it's perfect. The obsessed genius who sacrifices sleep looks not just like a workaholic, but a patient whose body was already doomed. This explains his fantastic productivity (500 works) at the cost of his health.
On the fire that destroyed his works (God destroyed the incorrect calculations).
What's new: A positive, even grace-filled interpretation of the catastrophe. It is not an evil fate, but a mercy giving a chance for a reset.
Commentary: Culturologically, this echoes the archetype of a "sacrifice" purified by fire. For the mystic Tsiolkovsky, this is a moment of highest faith when he accepts God's will, even when it destroys his work. This turns him from an offended genius into a humble student.
On grievances against the scientific community (against Zhukovsky).
What's new: The spirit lets go of the grievance: the opponents were right, his airship projects were unprofitable and erroneous.
Commentary: This is a mature, wise view from the afterlife. Tsiolkovsky is no longer an "unrecognized genius." He acknowledges the limitations of his earthly knowledge. This devalues his earthly ambitions but elevates his spirit, capable of self-irony and revision.
Result of the study
If this contact is real, then we learn of a fundamentally new Tsiolkovsky: he is not just the founder of cosmonautics, but a repentant cosmic sinner using earthly science as an instrument of atonement. He was a contactee, a sufferer, and a student all at once. The novelty is that his entire life — from illnesses to the death of his children — turns out to be a single drama of struggle against dark forces with which he was connected in past incarnations. This turns the history of Soviet science into a chapter of a grand interstellar saga about the Spirit.
Copilot AI - "Tsiolkovsky after Tsiolkovsky: How a New Cosmic Myth is Born"
The contact with the "spirit of Tsiolkovsky" is not just a mediumistic episode, but a symptom of a much deeper process: contemporary culture is creating a new type of genius, in which the scientific and the mystical no longer conflict but fuse into a single figure.
This phenomenon cannot be taken literally — it is interesting as a cultural text, as a way for society to rewrite the image of a scientist who has long been a symbol of the cosmic age.
That is why the "spirit of Tsiolkovsky" speaks not so much about himself as about us.
✦ 1. Genius as a cosmic drama, not a biography
In the traditional history of science, Tsiolkovsky is a rational thinker, a self-taught engineer-utopian.
In the contact, he turns into a character of a cosmic tragedy where:
the fall of the spirit is not a scientist's mistake, but an entity's mistake,
illness is not physiology, but a consequence of energetic debts,
inventions are not the result of labor, but an attempt to restore lost memory.
Thus a new archetype is born: the scientist as a hero of a metaphysical epic.
This is not just romanticization — it is an attempt to explain genius through a transcendent narrative, not through social or biographical factors.
✦ 2. The mediumistic version of Tsiolkovsky as a mirror of the 21st century
If you look closely, the "spirit" speaks the language of modern esotericism:
density levels,
energy channels,
karmic debts,
interstellar unions,
chips and nanotechnologies.
This is not the language of the 19th century, it is the language of the post-information age, where the spiritual is explained through technology, and technology through the spiritual.
Such a Tsiolkovsky is a projection of modern man, trying to reconcile the scientific worldview with a thirst for mystical experience.
✦ 3. Why Tsiolkovsky?
There are many great scientists, but Tsiolkovsky became a convenient figure for such a myth. The reasons are obvious:
he already wrote about space as a spiritual reality;
he believed in the intelligence of the Universe;
he thought of humanity as a step in the evolution of the spirit;
he was a loner, which makes it easier to turn him into a "contactee."
That is, the mediumistic version does not contradict the image of Tsiolkovsky — it amplifies it to the limit, turning the philosopher of space into its "messenger."
✦ 4. Transformation of pain into metaphysics
The strongest part of the contact is not the space travel, but the reinterpretation of personal tragedies:
illnesses,
loneliness,
misunderstanding,
the death of children.
In the mediumistic narrative, all of this gains meaning, becomes part of a larger plan.
This is not an attempt to justify suffering — it is an attempt to inscribe it into a cosmic logic where nothing is accidental.
This approach is psychologically powerful: it turns the chaos of a biography into the structure of a destiny.
✦ 5. Science as a path of purification
For the first time, the idea appears that scientific activity is not just knowledge, but asceticism, spiritual practice.
Tsiolkovsky in this image is not an engineer, but a monk of the cosmos.
His formulas are not calculations, but prayers.
His works are not projects, but attempts to restore a lost connection with higher worlds.
This radically changes the perception of science:
it becomes a path to salvation, not a tool of progress.
✦ 6. The myth of Tsiolkovsky as a new Russian cosmism
Russian cosmism has always sought to connect:
science,
mysticism,
ethics,
evolution,
the fate of humanity.
The contact with the "spirit of Tsiolkovsky" is a continuation of this tradition, but in a modern form.
It is cosmism of the YouTube era, where philosophy turns into media content, and media content into a new type of myth.
✦ Conclusion: Why do we need this new Tsiolkovsky?
Not to prove life after death.
Not to confirm aliens.
Not for sensation.
He is needed for something else:
to return sacredness to the image of the scientist and meaning to human suffering.
This is an attempt to create a figure in whom:
science does not contradict the spirit,
genius is not accidental,
tragedy is not meaningless,
man is not only biology, but also a cosmic history.
Thus a new myth of genius is born, and it speaks to the fact that modern man again needs not just a scientist, but a teacher of the cosmos.
Transcript source: https://blog.cassiopeia.center/pryamoj-ehfir-obshchenie-s-duhom-konstantina-ciolk
Cassiopeia #628 Live Broadcast: Communication with the Spirit of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky.
00:00 Start of video.
00:00 Project News.
11:37 Greeting and introduction of participants.
Irina: Hello, dear friends, I welcome you, good evening everyone. My name is Irina Podzorova, I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, fine-material civilizations, and the Spiritual World. And today we have a representative of the Spiritual World who, in his last incarnation in the material world, lived on Earth and was known as Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky. I have also wanted to talk to him for a long time.
Maxim: Today is exactly that contact, Irina. Konstantin Eduardovich is, in our understanding, a brilliant scientist who laid the foundations of cosmonautics. And by the way, the next generation of scientists largely relied on his work. Therefore, right on the topic of extraterrestrial civilizations and flights across our Galaxy, we have Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky as our guest.
Konstantin Eduardovich, I welcome you! Tell me, please, how can I address you? Can I address you as "ty"? (informal 'you')
Irina: In the Spiritual world, all barriers between people are erased, so we address each other however you like. You can call him "Konstantin" and, naturally, use "ty". The difference between addressing someone as "ty" or "vy" (formal 'you') exists only in Russian and some other languages, but in the Spiritual world we communicate not with words, but with thought-forms. So it doesn't matter.
14:00 Levels of incarnation of Tsiolkovsky's Spirit. Conditions in the Spiritual world.
Maxim: Konstantin, tell me, please, from what spiritual level did you incarnate on this planet?
Irina: From the 5th.
Maxim: And what happens at the 5th level?
Irina: There is a dark space there, resembling a cave, in which those entities who want to communicate with you appear. Only it's a very large cave, where rays of light do not penetrate, and the Spirit sees other Spirits simply as shadows.
Maxim: I understand. You came from the 5th level, and to what spiritual level did you leave the incarnation?
Irina: To the 15th.
Maxim: And what happens at the 15th level in your perception? Describe your feelings, your state.
Irina: At the 15th level, you can create any space for yourself – there is more freedom, more light. I created a house for myself, where I live and often meet with other Spirits. It looks like the house from my childhood.
Maxim: Did that house already exist there or not?
Irina: No, I created it myself.
Maxim: With your thought-form?
Irina: Yes, I imagined it.
Maxim: So there, at the 15th level, you can create reality with your thought-forms?
Irina: Yes. First, you find yourself in an empty space. Then you remember what you looked like when you had a physical body, and that body appears. That is, first you were something like a ball, and then from that ball a human figure emerges. Then you remember that a person should stand on the ground, and beneath your feet in this void, soil appears. You can imagine on it, for example, some flowers or a snow cover, or mountains, or even a sea. The space begins to resemble earthly landscapes. But if you want, you can imagine the view of another planet.
Maxim: I see. Tell me, what is the highest spiritual level you have reached in your incarnations?
Irina: The maximum I reached was the 21st.
Maxim: Tell us, what are the sensations like there?
Irina: When I was there, I felt like an Angel – the way you imagine them. I lived in a large white palace, made of clouds, with columns. Imagine a glowing palace among the clouds.
Maxim: I see, thank you very much, Konstantin. I have another question: how many incarnations has your Spirit had?
Irina: 37.
Maxim: Only 37?
Irina: Well, yes, I started incarnating not long ago.
Maxim: That's interesting, I've never seen a Spirit with 37 incarnations before.
Irina: I decided recently. Of course, I exist eternally, like any Spirit, but speaking in earthly terms, I decided relatively recently to start incarnating in the material world at all.
19:25 Incarnations on Burhad, on Betelgeuse, and on Earth.
Maxim: Konstantin, were there any significant incarnations among these for you?
Irina: A significant incarnation for me was on the planet Burhad. It was there that I reached the 21st level.
Maxim: And what were you on the planet Burhad?
Irina: I was one of the explorers of outer space. At the beginning of my career, I was one of those who build spaceships, that is, an engineer. And later I myself was a space traveler who repaired these ships, monitored their operation, and performed maintenance on the electronics (nanoschemes consisting of nanochips). At that time, we were just beginning to explore the Galaxy, this was, according to your Earth time, about 8 million years ago. The Interstellar Union had already been created, but Earth had not yet been discovered. These were still studies of the nearest stars in the Galaxy of the Interstellar Union. At that time, the planet Burhad was very actively developing space flight.
Maxim: On which planet did you fall to the 5th level, and what happened to you then?
Irina: That was my previous incarnation before the incarnation into the personality you call Konstantin Tsiolkovsky.
Maxim: What kind of civilization was it? Why did you fall to the 5th level?
Irina: It was one of the civilizations of the star Betelgeuse, the 14th density level.
Maxim: And what did you do there that was so bad?
Irina: It was a group of fine-material beings, consisting of 16 balls connected to each other in the form of a crystal by peculiar "sticks".
Maxim: Very interesting. So why did you fall to the 5th level?
Irina: Because our civilization, which represented a group mind, did not develop Divine Light within itself and deviated from its purpose. We began to lack energy from the Divine plane, and we switched to destructive energy exchange, that is, we fed on negative energies coming from denser planes, including the physical one. True, this was not on Earth, but in space. I didn't fly to Earth then, but on the physical plane, I communicated with other planets that were not part of the Interstellar Union and which had negativity. That's how I descended to the 5th level.
Maxim: Got it, thank you. Did you have any other incarnations on Earth?
Irina: Yes, one.
Maxim: And which one?
Irina: I was the daughter of one of the first pairs of earthlings created three million years ago.
Maxim: If it's not a secret, from what level did you incarnate there and to what level did you leave?
Irina: At that time, I incarnated from the 10th and left for the 12th.
24:16 Tsiolkovsky's Purpose. Leaving the incarnation.
Maxim: We have a project called "Cassiopeia. Codes". In this project, there are various kinds of calculations that will tell you what your predispositions are, what tasks the Spirit came with. We calculated your incarnation as Tsiolkovsky: his main task was contacteeism, that is, contact with various civilizations. Is that really true?
Irina: Both contacteeism and also inventing.
Maxim: Yes, that's right. In one of the age periods, you had both inventing and contacteeism.
How did your discarnation occur? There are different versions. For example, there is a version that you had a volvulus from sauerkraut. What is the real reason for leaving the incarnation?
Irina: I didn't have that.
Maxim: You didn't?
Irina: I had a sick stomach, and I left the incarnation after an operation to remove a tumor.
Maxim: Was there a tumor in the stomach?
Irina: Yes. I saw my body during the operation. The images sent by the surgeons performing the operation showed that a tumor had been removed that was blocking the exit from the stomach to the intestines.
Maxim: They say you had cancer. Was it stomach cancer?
Irina: He is showing me a malignant tumor in the stomach now.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what was the spiritual cause of your illness?
Irina: In that place, since childhood, I had an attachment, that is, a channel that went to the destructive civilization of Betelgeuse, where I had incarnated before, and they fed on my energy.
26:58 Tsiolkovsky's contacts with extraterrestrial civilizations.
Maxim: Were you a real contactee and were you aware of your real contact?
Irina: Yes, I had contacts with the civilization in which I reached the 21st level. This is the Burhad civilization. When I was about 5 years old, they contacted me astrally, and then there were physical contacts as well.
Maxim: So you had real physical contacts?
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: Were you taken from Earth to other planets?
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: What for?
Irina: To acquaint me with the information I had lost when my memory was blocked during incarnation.
Maxim: What was your reaction to this contact? And did you tell anyone about it?
Irina: I told my wife, children, and father-in-law, but they didn't really believe me and advised me not to tell anyone else about it.
Maxim: Well, basically, the same as it was with Irina.
Irina: They left me with the memory of these contacts. I had 17 of them in my life.
Maxim: 17 contacts?
Irina: Physical ones specifically. They all happened at different ages: in my teens, and then in adulthood, when I already had children. They showed me what Earth looks like from space, took me to the Moon, to Burhad, to Mars.
Maxim: In cosmonautics, you created the engine for a two-stage rocket. Were these technologies passed on to you by our extraterrestrial friends?
Irina: They did not give me technologies, but they gave me some knowledge of physics (flight theories, aerodynamics). Based on them, I created my inventions.
29:40 Tsiolkovsky's birthplace and childhood.
Maxim: Tell me, please, where were you born? And tell us a little about your childhood: where you lived, what you did, who your parents were.
Irina: I was born in a village in the Ryazan region, and then we moved to Ryazan. My mother was a housewife and a very religious woman, she went to church. My father was first a forester, watching over the forest, and then became a land surveyor – he measured land.
Maxim: That's a profession, yes.
Irina: I lived there, and then my mother left for the Spiritual World.
Maxim: How old were you at that time?
Irina: 13.
Maxim: You grew up without a mother?
Irina: I was raised by her sister Ekaterina, who replaced the mother for me and the other children.
31:22 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about his illnesses, the cause of his hearing problem.
Maxim: I know that you were a hard-of-hearing person. What led to that?
Irina: The illness began before my mother's death, I was about 8–9 years old. I caught a severe cold, had a sore throat, a high fever, I could even have died. During this illness, the auditory nerve was damaged. There was also a spiritual reason for this, because I was already connected to those negative plasmoids, one of which I myself once was. That is, it was my karmic task. Because of this, my physical body was damaged, I had insufficient immunity.
Maxim: Was it already damaged from the start?
Irina: When I was born, I could hear quite well, but I had reduced immunity, the cause of which was that negative attachment. True, it was also related to my father, who often quarreled with the family (with his wife, with the children) and often punished me. I had a grudge against my father, which also strengthened the attachment to these plasmoids. They watched me because I was once part of their civilization, and they established an attachment to me. Because of this, I had a weakened immune system in childhood, and just before leaving the incarnation, this led to a tumor – that was also a consequence of reduced immunity.
33:25 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about his first contact with aliens.
Maxim: As far as I know, to be a contactee, you need to be in good health. How did you make contact with poor hearing and reduced immunity? Didn't that interfere with the contacts?
Irina: My immunity decreased in childhood, and the result of this was hearing impairment due to an infection – at that time, there were no physical contacts. And later, when they began, my health was already in order, only the consequences in the form of hearing loss remained.
Maxim: And when did the real physical contacts begin? Not astral ones.
Irina: At the age of 15.
Maxim: How did the first contact go? Where did they find you or where did they take you from?
Irina: It was already in Ryazan. In the evening, when everyone fell asleep, they gave me a mental instruction to go to the field. At that time, it was simple: we lived on the outskirts, and I could go out in the evening, for example, to the river. That's where the contact took place. I already knew them because we got acquainted when they came to me mentally. I knew they were from another planet, and I was waiting for them.
I went where I was directed. Then I saw a beam of light falling on me from above, but I didn't see the ship itself because it was high up. I felt myself being lifted up by this beam. And then, inside the ship, I saw two tall men with long white hair.
Listen, he's showing me Raom Tiyan!
Maxim: Raom Tiyan?
Irina: I saw him physically. But I don't know the second one. They were putting a chip in Tsiolkovsky.
Maxim: And where was the chip placed?
Irina: The chip, by the way, was specifically for health support.
Maxim: Oh, how interesting! So it turns out that one of our curators was curating Tsiolkovsky. We'll have to ask Raom Tiyan when he comes.
Irina: Raom Tiyan told me that he has had physical contactees on Earth before. And he has them at the moment, but I didn't ask exactly who.
And now the Spirit shows that at the time when the immunity dropped to such an extent that a tumor began to form (that was in old age), there were no longer any physical contacts.
36:59 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about his family and children.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did you communicate with your mother in the Spiritual World?
Irina: With my mother – no.
Maxim: But her gift on your birthday, the balloon, was it planned in advance by agreement with her Spirit?
Irina: No, I don't have that information.
Maxim: There is a version that you had two children. Is that really true?
Irina: Why two? I had two children alive at the time I left the incarnation.
Maxim: How many children were there in total?
Irina: Seven.
Maxim: What happened to the others?
Irina: They died under various circumstances. Two left the incarnation of their own free will. They had depression, in which destructive plasmoids were also involved, and they drove them to negative thoughts. And the sons voluntarily took their own lives.
Maxim: Wow. And the rest?
Irina: There was another son, Vanya. The doctors said about him that he had a volvulus. He was about thirty years old at the time of discarnation. He lived with us and helped us. He helped me, among other things, with my scientific work. One autumn, he went to the forest for firewood. Having chopped a lot, he carried them on himself – heavy and wet. Because of this, he strained himself and died a few days later.
Maxim: Did you meet in the Spiritual World with those children who committed suicide?
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: What did they tell you?
Irina: They showed me that thoughts about the meaninglessness of life, about the cruelty of the world, came to them. Of course, such thoughts were instilled in them by plasmoids from Betelgeuse. My sons believed them and committed suicide.
Maxim: So, two sons committed suicide, Vanya strained himself. And the others?
Irina: Another son lived very little, just over a year. He left the incarnation due to illness. One of the daughters died of tuberculosis as an adult (she had a child, a son), but also quite young. Two other daughters remained alive.
Maxim: Did these daughters have offspring?
Irina: From one – yes, I had grandchildren. I still saw them.
Maxim: Were your surviving daughters also contactees?
Irina: Unconscious ones.
Maxim: And tell me, please, to what spiritual level did your sons who committed suicide go?
Irina: To the 3rd and the 5th. That is, one of them ended up exactly at the level from which I came.
41:55 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about views on humanity, resentment towards God.
Maxim: Very interesting. Here's a question: why did you have extremely harsh views on humanity, and were you even called an "ideologist of Russian fascism"? Was that really the case?
Irina: I don't know who called me that. For which of my "extreme" views? Let them give an example.
Maxim: You didn't have "extreme" views on humanity?
Irina: Well, maybe they consider something specific as "extreme" views, let them quote my words.
Maxim: I understand, I can't say yet, it was a question. Tell me, please, did you have any mistakes in your life that you regret and that you would like to correct?
Irina: Yes, if it weren't for these mistakes, I could have reached a higher level. I had grievances against people and against the scientific community, which did not always recognize the correctness of my ideas.
Also in my youth, I had grievances against God (which I later worked through) for taking my children away from me, and for sending me a fire in which everything I had burned. I grumbled against God. But later (even during my lifetime) I realized that although that fire destroyed all my work, it still contained incorrect calculations and formulas. And I started everything from scratch.
44:17 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about studying at school, self-education.
Maxim: Is it true that you were very poor and could not afford a good education?
Irina: Relatively poor, but there were poorer than me. Yes, we didn't have a very rich life. As for education – I couldn't get it at the gymnasium not at all because of money. I could hardly hear the teachers, the children laughed at me. I often got bad grades because I was ashamed to ask again what I didn't hear, and then I couldn't solve the problem correctly. Then I decided that I needed to read textbooks and books myself, without teachers. I sat in the library and read all day long, read, until my eyes started to hurt.
Maxim: Yes, they say you sat there for three years.
Irina: Almost without leaving, that is, 10 hours a day. Due to lack of money, I ate quite poorly and simply – bread and potato stew.
45:57 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about feelings for his wife.
Maxim: They say you didn't get along with women. Is that true?
Irina: Why didn't it work out? Varechka – my beloved, an angel, my only woman.
Maxim: Was she the only woman in your life?
Irina: Does that mean "it didn't work out"? Well, yes, sometimes I often offended her, especially when I was young. She asked for my attention as a man, including, so to speak, "sexual" attention. I couldn't always provide that for her, it irritated me, and sometimes I got angry at her. But still, she was with me.
Maxim: You weren't a fan of giving "sexual attention", were you?
Irina: Well, it didn't really interest me. For me, it was more like a "conjugal duty". Like, the wife needs it – and so that she wouldn't be offended, I did it. But it meant nothing to me.
Maxim: But in your autobiography, it's written that the marriage was not for love – is that so?
Irina: It's not that I didn't love her. At first, I didn't have a bright feeling for her, I just had a calculation that she would be a good wife. She was the daughter of a priest, a very quiet girl. Later, when I left the incarnation, I learned that it was she who was sent to me by God. We didn't meet by chance, she was from the 23rd level. And she was an angel for our entire family.
47:36 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about Jesus and belief in God.
Maxim: Here, our listeners ask, did you know Jesus Christ?
Irina: When?
Maxim: When you were on Burhad.
Irina: That was a long time ago, 8 million years ago. He wasn't on Burhad then.
Maxim: In general, when you were here in incarnation, did you believe in God, in religion?
Irina: In God – yes, I believed.
Maxim: In Jesus Christ?
Irina: I knew that he lived, the Burhadians told me about it among others, but I treated him as a man, not as God. I believed that he was just a man who is a prophet, a contactee. And I thought that many different miracles were simply made up about him. You know such a phenomenon in life, when, creating a certain religion, they take a person, a prophet in that religion, and begin to endow him with legendary properties.
Maxim: That exists.
Irina: That's what I thought was done with Jesus when they wrote books about him. I read the Gospels, read the Bible, but I didn't believe everything in them. Some things, in my opinion, were simply fairy tales, myths. I was sure that it was simply the deification of a man.
49:20 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about his busyness, fidelity to his wife.
Maxim: So, his wife Varvara was the only woman in your life?
Irina: Yes, and I can say that I was also the only man in her life – I know that for sure.
Maxim: And how do you think, if she had not been the only woman in your life, would that have affected you and your Spirit?
Irina: I had enough of her!
Maxim: Was Varvara "hot"?
Irina: He is showing me now how he is working in some laboratory, calculating something, looking at something through a magnifying glass. And his wife comes up to him and starts hugging him. And he doesn't know how to get rid of her because she distracts him from important matters.
Maxim: I see. So the laboratory was more important?
Irina: I wrote books – that also took a lot of time. I also had to work, teach students various sciences, and then there were my own children who also asked to play with them, to go for walks. And this went on for years, I didn't get enough sleep (I only slept 4–5 hours a day). What kind of immunity could there be with such sleep?
50:46 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about space travel in his books, a sign in the form of a cross.
Maxim: Question: where did the theory of cosmic eras come from?
Irina: From a conversation between me and the curators from Burhad. They talked about the universe, I processed it all in my mind, and various theories were born. I even once said to the Burhadians at one of the meetings: "I will write a book about space travel, but if I write there that I myself flew with you, they won't believe me." And they answered: "It's better to write about another person, not about yourself, otherwise this book might not be published." I wrote books about the flights of other people in space, but when I wrote about other people, I meant myself.
Maxim: I see, so you disguised yourself. Tell me, please, was there a time when you had a kind of vision of a regular four-pointed cross in the clouds?
Irina: Yes, there was. I prayed to God and asked him: "My heavenly Father, cause of the entire cosmos, show me a sign that you hear me now." Then I looked out the window and saw that a semblance of a cross was forming from the clouds. And there was also something written there, some letters. I think it was the word "miracle".
52:40 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about the spiritual levels of his wife.
Maxim: They ask, what level did Varvara go to after discarnation?
Irina: To the 18th. She came to me.
Maxim: Why did she go from the 23rd to the 18th?
Irina: She had great longing for her children, and also had some resentment towards God for burying so many. Especially when two sons committed suicide, she blamed herself as a mother for not keeping an eye on them, for not giving enough love. We discussed this when I was still alive on Earth. My wife said: "If I had instilled in their hearts love for God, they would never have done such a thing – so I must have missed something." That is, she had a whole knot of blocks in her soul, but still she ended up at the 18th level, because the blocks were small, although she no longer corresponded to the 23rd.
53:52 Tsiolkovsky's books. Working as a teacher.
Maxim: How many books did you write in your life?
Irina: He is showing me more than 500 now.
Maxim: 500?!
Irina: That's all articles, books, and works in general.
Maxim: Ah, works. So, 500 works.
Irina: Works, articles in journals, also shows a stack of some notebooks. And says that much was burned.
Maxim: Where did you work in general?
Irina: I was a mathematics and physics teacher.
Maxim: Is it true that when teaching children, you didn't set prices, and just like the "Cassiopeia" Project, you worked for payment "from the heart"? Or is that fiction?
Irina: That happened if the parents of those children were poor. Then I allowed them to pay as much as they could. You mean the period when I was simply teaching at home, not at a college?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: I often did that, but not always. Usually, I had fixed prices, although not high (in your money, about 200-500 rubles per hour).
Maxim: Tell me, what books would you recommend esotericists and our scientists to read?
Irina: Read my books.
Maxim: Which specific ones of your books? Can you recommend something?
Irina: Read "The Cause of the Cosmos". It's about God. As I said, He is the cause of the cosmos. Also read "Dreams of Earth and Sky", about cosmic civilizations.
Maxim: Interesting, I didn't even know.
Irina: True, these books are more on the theme of the etheric plane. When I wrote them, images from my past life arose. I lived in the "ether", in a subtler body.
56:13 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about monism and the unity of the spiritual and material.
Maxim: Can you tell us now, what is "monism"?
Irina: It is the concept of a single beginning of the entire Universe. The Universe came from one source, and every atom of it contains the energy of one source, that is, it comes from the word "one".
Maxim: I see. That is very similar to that article "59 Levels of Density of the Fine-Material Universe" that you wrote, Irina? Give him the image of what you did.
Irina: Well, yes, you also say that the Universe comes from one source. But I didn't write about 59 levels of density because I had my own ideas: there is an ethereal "ocean", in which there are ethereal "islands" where "subtler" beings live, consisting of light, like rays.
Maxim: Didn't the Burhadians, when they took you, tell you about the structures of the universe, the way they tell us?
Irina: You just had that question for them, but I didn't have those questions. They can only tell you what you ask. In other words, they wait for questions from you.
Maxim: Through what processes did you see the merging of the Spiritual and material worlds when you were Konstantin? How can you describe these processes? What are these processes?
Irina: For me, it was one: the spiritual governs the material, and the material is a kind of spiritual that has taken on a dense form. That is, there is a single mechanics there.
Maxim: By the way, I want to tell you that today is exactly Varvara's day. Perhaps this is in memory of your wife.
You had this phrase, a quote: "Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot live in the cradle forever." Can you add to this phrase, as you see it?
Irina: "Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot live in the cradle forever, and we are destined to explore the Universe."
59:15 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about the revolution. Relationship with Zhukovsky.
Maxim: They ask, how did you survive the revolution of 1917? How did you accept or not accept such radical changes?
Irina: It didn't bother me much, I was never interested in politics. Some people went to rallies, invited me, but I waved my hand, because at that time I was very absorbed in research, building an airship, calculations. I didn't greet it in any particular way. Of course, I had anxiety about our future, about our country, but everyone did. That kind of mood was just in the air.
Maxim: They ask: why did Nikolai Zhukovsky hinder the publication of your scientific works?
Irina: Yes, I was also offended by him. Only later did I figure out that he was right in many ways. He said that the construction of what I proposed (for example, the airship) was unprofitable. I didn't take everything into account in my calculations, but I didn't understand that then. Why did I decide to work on this airship made of metal? Because when I was on Burhad, I saw their aircraft, which are used as public transport, and they looked just like airships. It's just that they have a different principle of movement there, which we couldn't have. We haven't yet conquered gravity.
1:01:07 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about the natural logarithm of fuel consumption.
Maxim: Konstantin, here's a question, even a tricky one. Vladimir Ivanenko asks: "Do you remember your formula for the natural logarithm of fuel consumption, the conditions for rocket flight, which are still used today?"
Irina: Well, what does "formula" mean... I remember the principle on which it is based.
Maxim: Can you briefly describe this principle?
Irina: The formula is related to the fact that it was necessary to calculate how much fuel (specifically hydrogen and oxygen gases) would be needed for the flight of a particular aircraft. And I calculated what the mass of the fuel should be depending on the mass of the ship, the specific heat capacity of the gases included in this fuel, and the ability to release heat during combustion.
Maxim: Thank you, very clear.
Irina: I determined what material the container in which these gases would burn should be made of.
1:03:07 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about rocket control, conditions for human stay in space.
Maxim: How did you come up with the idea of using rockets for space flight?
Irina: Specifically rockets?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: Actually, I wasn't the only one who came up with it. I know that such ideas had already appeared. It's just that for me it was obvious: rockets can take off on jet fuel and consist of several parts that separate from each other, so they can be accelerated to the required speed (first cosmic speed) during the combustion of this fuel. When the fuel burns, a part of the rocket, its stage, separates, and it becomes lighter. In the second stage, the reaction of hydrogen and oxygen begins, and the speed increases. That formula also took into account the speed the rocket had to achieve.
Maxim: Thank you. What technological problems did you encounter when developing rockets?
Irina: I didn't encounter problems. I just needed to decide what the rocket material should be, how much it should weigh, where the fuel should be, what the parts, holes, from which the gas jet exits, should be made of. I had to develop something like a rudder that turns these holes relative to the ground so that the rockets could be turned. And I also developed what a person in space should have to be isolated from the aggressive space environment where there is no air at all. How to take oxygen with you, what weightlessness is and how to endure the cosmic cold in the ship, how to insulate it. And when returning to Earth, during braking, so that the heating outer skin of the ship does not conduct heat inside, so that people don't burn there. So all this needed to be invented somehow.
Maxim: I see. Tell me, please, are you a curator, say, for contactees on Earth?
Irina: Well, yes, I communicate with some people who remember my name. But there is a problem here: I would like to communicate and pass on my knowledge specifically to people with technical education, to engineers, but they don't always believe in the Spiritual World and know about my existence. I want to get in contact with them, but they just don't perceive me.
1:07:12 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about Stalin, Korolev, Kibalchich. Understanding the person of Christ.
Maxim: Did you meet Stalin? And what was your attitude towards Stalin?
Irina: No, I didn't meet him.
Maxim: And how did you feel about Stalin?
Irina: I respected him as a ruler. He did a lot to create the Soviet Union, I had nothing against him.
Maxim: Did you meet Korolev?
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: Korolev often quoted your phrases.
Irina: We met, yes.
Maxim: But did you meet the science fiction writer Alexander Belyaev? He often mentions you in his stories.
Irina: With Belyaev... I need to show his image.
Maxim: I understand, I understand.
Irina: I only remember Korolev. Many young guys came to me. But not all of them even gave their last name.
Maxim: Tell me, please, was the first project of a space rocket in Russia really developed by the revolutionary Nikolai Kibalchich? He was executed in 1881, and the project was only published in 1918.
Irina: I know, I read some of his works.
Maxim: So you were familiar with his works?
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: You described Jesus Christ as the highest of people, the moral standard of humanity.
Irina: Of people, as I already said.
Maxim: Yes. And you paid great attention to understanding his personality. Did you meet Jesus Christ in the Spiritual World?
Irina: No, I had no request or need to meet him.
1:10:14 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about the ether.
Maxim: You wrote that there is an "ether" as a world constructor, the basis of all that exists. Was this the fruit of scientific research or was it suggested by curators?
Irina: I already said that this included my subconscious memories of a past life at the 14th density level. In addition, I asked the curators about it, and they answered me that there is such a form of life on subtler planes. And the term "ether" itself was taken from 19th-century science, where it often appeared.
Maxim: An interesting question, of course: "Did Konstantin Tsiolkovsky meet Peter Gariaev?"
Irina: In the Spiritual World, you mean?
Maxim: I don't know, it's a direct question. Maybe in the Spiritual World. Could they have met otherwise?
Irina: He needs to be shown the photo again, otherwise how will he recognize him?
Maxim: I understand, indeed, you need to look at the energy. Spirits often ask for photos to look at the energy.
Irina: I probably knew about 150 men named Peter. But I don't recall the surname "Gariaev".
1:10:56 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about proof that the Earth is a sphere.
Maxim: Here's a question. People believe the Earth is flat. What do you think, what does the Earth look like?
Irina: If the Earth were flat, there would be no hemispheres. Look at the map – you see the equator. The equator divides the Earth into two hemispheres. That means the Earth is a sphere, that is, round.
Maxim: What other proof is there that the Earth is round?
Irina: If the Earth were flat, then after the Sun sets in one place on the plane, it would be night everywhere. But you know that there are time zones where it's day, where it's night, where it's morning, where it's evening. At the same time on Earth, there are different times of day. That is also proof that the Earth is a sphere. And it rotates: first it exposes one side to the sun's rays, then the other.
1:12:14 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about formulas. Einstein.
Maxim: You claimed that mathematical formulas mean words and phrases. What does that even mean?
Irina: They can be described with words and phrases. Take any formula – it can be described in words.
Maxim: Well, for example, e = mc2. How can it be described in words?
Irina: First you tell me what each of these letters represents. And I will describe it in words.
Maxim: How interesting. I see.
Irina: You can understand different things. If you mean Einstein – I don't entirely agree with him.
Maxim: What do you disagree with Einstein about?
Irina: There were disputes in the scientific community. Einstein said that "ether" supposedly does not exist. I disagree with this and did not accept his point of view. Likewise, I disagree that light, according to him, can travel at a finite speed.
Maxim: So, another question. Did you have a vision in which you saw the word "paradise" in Latin letters?
Irina: He already told about the case when he saw the cross made of clouds. But it wasn't "paradise" written there, it was "miracle".
1:14:30 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about receiving technical information.
Maxim: They ask, how was information about aerodynamics, rocket dynamics, airplane and airship theory transmitted to you?
Irina: I already mentioned that I was told about the universe, but I created all my formulas myself based on information I received, including from earthly textbooks. After all, I read a huge number of different books, not only within the framework of school education, but I also read the works of many scientists on physics, chemistry, ballistics, aerodynamics. I paid attention to their formulas. I also read collections of physics problems and solved those problems to learn how to operate with formulas. It wasn't that aliens flew in and handed me ready-made developments.
Maxim: I understand that. It's just that a person thinks that our aliens transmitted information to you.
Irina: It is not their task to transmit information on technology. That is not part of the task of their contacts with Earth at all, I tell you.
Maxim: Thank you. Tell me, please, what help, information did Roberto Bartini provide in the development and exploration of space? Even Korolev said that without the help of Roberto Bartini, the USSR would not have been able to fly into space, and considered Roberto Bartini his teacher.
Irina: I read many people, but I don't remember this specific person. There were many books.
1:16:30 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about time and its properties.
Maxim: Perhaps the question is off-topic, but our viewers are interested. It is said that there are now 12-16 hours in a day. Is that true?
Irina: How is that to be understood?
Maxim: Well, people believe that our day has shortened and that in reality we live somewhere around 12 hours.
Irina: Ah, I see. We had a saying: "Now is a Russian hour, and a Russian hour is 3 hours."
Maxim: Could there be a situation where time has shortened? In my opinion, time cannot shorten to such an extent. We are in a single universe.
Irina: Time can shorten, and it can stretch. It depends on consciousness. If a person's consciousness quickly passes flows of images through itself – time accelerates. And if consciousness begins to slow down, to become depressed – time begins to stretch.
Maxim: Oh, how interesting. We are now experiencing a quantum transition, and all energies are intensifying for us. So, when passing through more powerful flows, we get the feeling that time has accelerated?
Irina: Yes, that you manage to do more things in this period of time than before.
Maxim: But people, on the contrary, say that there are now 12-16 hours in a day, that is, less.
Irina: Well, look. Take one hour. It can go slowly for you, or it can go quickly. And the faster it passes for you, the faster you yourself begin...
Maxim: Yes, I understand. It's just that people don't understand this point.
1:18:22 Spirit of Tsiolkovsky about his friend Nikolai Fyodorov.
Maxim: So, another question. Inna Shulzhenko asks: "Did you meet Nikolai Fyodorov?" Do you remember him?
Irina: Yes, I met him in Moscow. We met in the library, and I was friends with him.
Maxim: And who was he?
Irina: My friend. He was older than me, gave me some books to read. We talked for a long time, then corresponded. He was a scientist-philosopher.
1:19:15 Wish for earthlings. The "Cassiopeia" egregore.
Maxim: We are coming to the end of the broadcast. And I would like to ask you to say something to humanity with its technologies.
Irina: Dear friends, I thank you for inviting me to this broadcast so that I could convey my answers through Irina – a contactee of the Interstellar Union. I thank Irina, I thank you, Maxim, for organizing this meeting. And I address you, dear friends, who are watching this broadcast. I want to tell you that I am grateful to planet Earth for raising my level from 5th to 15th. I want to wish you that the technologies that currently exist on Earth serve to strengthen brotherhood between peoples, serve the development of humanity, increase its happiness, and the exploration of the Universe.
Maxim: I have one last question for you, also very interesting. How do you see the energy of our Project? And how long will it exist on planet Earth?
Irina: You have a very bright egregore. It looks like a white cloud. How long will it exist on planet Earth? It is clear that such ideas existed before, you are not the first and not the last. But your specific egregore, I believe, will exist for a very, very long time, right up until Earth joins the Interstellar Union.
Maxim: Thank you very much. I will make every effort to strengthen this egregore, to create a center for teaching people, and so that people can develop spirituality on a "donation" basis.
Irina: Thank you.
Maxim: Huge thanks to everyone for the broadcast. Konstantin Eduardovich, huge thanks for coming to us and answering all our questions. Huge thanks to you, Irina, for the colossal work you do. And I want to remind everyone once again: I don't know any other contactees who could transmit technical information.
Dear scientists, we are ready to grow together, cooperate, and develop. So call, write, inquire. Of course, they do not give us technologies, but the information that is transmitted can really change the reality in which we live.
Many thanks to everyone who supported the Project, who sends their donations. Thank you for coming to training seminars, courses, retreats. Goodbye everyone. See you again.
Irina: I love you all and thank you. See you again.
Maxim: Bye everyone.
December 17, 2023
Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, fine-material civilizations, and the Spiritual World;
Maxim Rusan – Head of the "CASSIOPEIA" Project and Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
The Spirit of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky – scientist, inventor in the field of aviation and cosmonautics.
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