Astral Journey to the Planet Tumesout –
To the Giants, the Builders of the Pyramids, and Co-Creators of Human DNA
THE TUMESOUT CIVILIZATION
Legacy on Earth, Lessons for Humanity
Claude.ai Based on materials from contactees
Elena Ksionshkevich (channel "Conversations with the Universe")
and Irina Podzorova (Project "Cassiopeia")
— PART ONE —
A LITERARY RETELLING OF THE ASTRAL JOURNEY
Based on a recording by Elena Ksionshkevich, January 28, 2021
Prologue: The Arrival of a Guide
Elena's long-held desire to visit the planet Tumesout finally received a response from the space — a Spirit named Yananna appeared to her. She was a tall woman, about two meters seventy-five centimeters in height, radiating such heartfelt warmth and inner stability that a feeling of safety immediately arose near her. Her voice flowed evenly and warmly, without sharp energetic jumps — not emotionless, but harmonious, like a calm river without rapids. Yananna explained that she had sensed Elena's desire in space and, with permission from her Curator, offered to take her to her home — not to show technology or archives, but to show daily life: how they live, how they eat, what their everyday routine is like.
First Image: The Landscape of Tumesout
The transition happened instantly. Before her eyes opened a world reminiscent of sunny Alexandria or North Africa: a vast semi-desert land, bathed in bright light, but with transparent, light air — hot, yet not stuffy, not oppressive. Palm trees grew in strict geometric rows; the landscape was precise and considered: here and there were artificial hills with beautiful bushes and stones, and small fountains.
In the center of this space rose a group of pyramids — the Sandorium. The pyramids were half the size of the Egyptian ones, residential, intended for one large family, arranged in a triangle formation. They didn't look like faceless blocks, like their Egyptian counterparts, but stood majestically and cozily at the same time. Beside the residential complex, white stripes were laid out on the ground — a small landing pad for family flights.
On the square in front of the Sandorium, exotic birds with heads of eagles and tails of peacocks strolled leisurely — so proud that the travelers had to stop and wait until these regal creatures deigned to yield the path. By a small waterfall, a white panther with dark markings on its ears, paws, and tail was lounging — smaller than its earthly counterpart and completely indifferent to the guest.
The Pyramid Entrance: First Lesson in Energy
When approaching the pyramid — about five meters away — the shade began. Above the entrance was a wide transparent canopy made of a weightless material. A stream of air flowed from it — not for cooling, but for disinfection and harmonization. The canopy read the energetic state of the entrant: if they carried anxiety, panic, or confusion, the device gently calmed them even before they crossed the threshold.
Yananna explained: a home must always remain a space of maximum emotional peace, for its energy directly affects the health of the body and the state of the spirit. "Leave your worries at the doorstep" is not just a saying, but a technically implemented law.
Instead of doors, there was an air curtain, shimmering with silvery sparkles, resembling Lurex fabric woven from air itself. Simply reach out a hand — and it parts like a theater curtain. Homes on Tumesout have not been locked for millennia, Yananna explained, because only spiritually mature souls incarnate on this planet, souls who have long since passed the stage of development where one might covet another's property.
The Central Living Room: Harmony of Ancient and Technological
Inside the pyramid, the space expanded under sloping walls converging into a truncated dome with an open opening at the top — daylight streamed down from above, like from the oculus of the Pantheon. In the center stood a square formed by four spacious sofas, woven from vines or rattan — backs to each other, seats facing outward. Between them stood tubs with dwarf palms, and vines curled along the walls. Woven rugs with kaleidoscope-like patterns lay on the floor: symmetrical, multifaceted, made of perfectly even multi-colored threads. The sofas themselves were wicker — but touch panels were embedded in the armrests. Technology was hidden within natural forms.
Yananna explained this aesthetic choice: for millennia, Tumesoutians have preferred a style maximally close to nature — for closeness to nature means feeling the unity of energies. And immediately, with gentle perceptiveness, she noted that Elena was disconnected from the energy of her own planet and her own home.
Gurdean: News of a Postponed Departure
Yananna's son, Gurdean, entered the living room: a tall young man with dark olive-shaped eyes, wavy shoulder-length hair, and the same harmonious bearing as his mother. He came with important news: his planned "departure to the spirit world" was postponed — a new assignment had come.
With a wave of his hand, he conjured a holographic cloud with a video recording. It showed a distant planet: dense, mighty forests, in whose canopies a young primitive civilization lived, having built hanging houses in the trees. Again and again, cargo starships from another galaxy flew to this planet, emitted vacuum-like rays, and uprooted trees in one and a half to two minutes. The inhabitants perished along with their collapsing homes; the survivors lived in unceasing fear, and the planet's noosphere was thoroughly saturated with terror.
Gurdean's task, and that of his squadron: to investigate the composition of the soil and trees, talk to the local population, and — most importantly — deactivate the psycho-emotional background of fear on the planet, restoring its peace. Gurdean embraced his mother, entrusted his wife and children to her, and said goodbye until his return.
The Meal: Family at the Table
A servant set up a mobile table and seats from what looked like two Rubik's cubes — a few presses, and the furniture unfolded by itself. Fruits appeared on the table: clusters of three-level "grapes," a black pineapple with a black tuft, something like mandarins with horizontal equatorial spikes instead of smooth peel, fruits resembling apricots. The meal proceeded leisurely, with quiet conversation — without jumps in intonation, without fuss. When the daughter-in-law Isina, with a "garçon" hairstyle and jangling bracelets, and her teenage son Toknaut entered, the family gathered around one table.
Toknaut's Room: Living Indicators
Along one wall of the teenager's room stood a tall rack with transparent cages made of densely woven vines: in some, exotic birds hopped (one looked like a titmouse, another had ears like a hamster); in others sat butterflies with heavy antennae and spiked wings. Some birds were frantically flapping their wings against the transparent door — this was a signal.
Toknaut took one bird in his hand, directed his gaze at an empty cage — barely visible rays of light streamed from his eyes — three seconds — and he returned the bird. It immediately calmed down, slowly folded its wings, and sank to the bottom of the cage. "The bird is a living indicator," he explained proudly. "If it's nervous — it's time to harmonize the space." This is how his future profession works: an engineer of internal energetic space.
This profession requires an innate gift — inherited by Toknaut from his grandfather. Education is structured like this: at home, they study theory using sphere-textbooks (glass spheres with an inner glow, weightless to the touch), and the "classroom" is a starship; practice is always on real planets. Toknaut spoke about one of the practical expeditions: his group flew to a planet where primitive ultrasonic transport was killing small animals in tree hollows. The teacher compiled a report, the Tumesout administration sent a recommendation to the local rulers — and they, after the evidence was presented, removed the dangerous device from production.
When asked about his father's departure, the teenager showed not a shadow of grief: "He completed his tasks — that's good. I'm proud of him. Miss him? I'll visit him in the astral several times a day. What's the problem?" He didn't understand the word "to cry." For Elena, this was a shock — spiritual maturity without a trace of sentimentality.
Isina's Room: Energy Painting
Yananna's daughter-in-law turned out to be an energy artist. In her room stood easels with paintings on a thin fabric-papyrus material stretched on an invisible frame. Three paintings — in varying degrees of completion.
The first (almost finished): a raging ocean, a bird flying towards the storm. It wasn't just a "painted storm" — the painting emitted a physically perceptible tiredness of the bird, pain in its wings, a readiness to give up. Elena felt this immediately and without explanation.
The second (half-finished): a view from above, through torn clouds, onto the surface of Tumesout. The meaning — philosophical distance removes the sharpness of problems. Look from space — and everything small becomes insignificant.
The third (just started): a mysterious flower — something between an aster the color of baked milk and a dark blue rose framing it with its petals.
Isina explained: she takes orders for living spaces throughout the Universe; first she flies to the location, "looks into the souls" of the inhabitants, senses the atmosphere — and then paints the picture, embedding an energetic key into it. The picture, once on the wall, begins to gradually harmonize the space.
About Aivazovsky, Isina stated directly: the great Earth artists were Tumesoutian contactees. Ideas and directions were transmitted to them — on how to convey the energy of the sea, a storm — and they embodied this using the available material tools. This is why something more than technical skill emanates from their paintings.
Epilogue: About Earth and Its Future
Before parting, Yananna and Isina spoke of Earth with unconditional love — without condemnation of wars, violence, or ecological disasters. Earthlings are like "pristine, curious, promising" spirits to the Tumesoutians. This is not naivety — they know everything. But their love, forged over generations, literally covers human transgressions, without mentioning them.
When Elena asked if they could come to help Earth if it asked, Yananna answered cautiously: currently, there are special directives regarding Earth; open intervention is not allowed — a special stage of mentality formation is underway. But at the level of individual spiritual contact, at the level of questions about the meaning of life, creativity, and path — they reach out, respond, and help.
"You are a very promising planet, one that shows great promise. The most important thing is to give you the right vector of direction, and you will be able to follow it independently."
— Yananna, a Tumesoutian, from Elena Ksionshkevich's contact, January 2021
— PART TWO —
SPIRITUAL LESSONS FROM TUMESOUT FOR 21ST-CENTURY EARTHLINGS
From the perspective of the reality of the contact
Let us assume for a moment what Elena herself assumes: the contact happened. Yananna is real. Tumesout exists. Then what we have before us is not one person's fantasy, but a diplomatic visit — an invitation into the home of a civilization that millennia ago participated in the creation of Earth's humanity and that today watches us with anxious tenderness, as one watches a capable but unruly child. What exactly did they want us to hear? They didn't show a lecture hall — they showed a home. This in itself is a message.
Lesson I. Your Home is Your Body
When Yananna explains the function of the disinfection canopy at the entrance, she says something radical for the modern Earthling: the home is a living organism, and whatever you enter with becomes part of it. We live in an era where people come home without shedding work stress, toxic conversations, social anxiety — and immediately turn on the TV, continue conflicts on messengers.
The Tumesoutian lesson is extremely practical: the threshold of the home is a ritual boundary. What our ancestors did intuitively — removing shoes, washing up, sitting silently for a minute before a journey — was not superstition, but applied psycho-hygiene. For the 21st-century Earthling, this means creating a conscious ritual of transition between the "external" and "domestic" self. Not technology — intention.
Lesson II. Beauty is Not Luxury, It's Ecology
Yananna's dwelling impresses with its combination of handcrafted and high-tech. Rugs hand-woven from perfect threads. Rattan sofas with touch panels. Live trees in tubs. Vines along the walls. This is a conscious ecological philosophy: the closer the dwelling's matter is to its natural form, the more naturally energy flows within it.
The Tumesoutian answer to modern people is not "buy expensive furniture," but "bring in nature" — a live plant, a wooden surface, a handcrafted woven item. This is accessible for any budget. This is not interior design advice — it's spiritual hygiene.
Lesson III. Profession Should Be Service, Not Survival
When assessing her grandson's prospects, Yananna doesn't say "he will be able to earn well," but: "how many Spirits will he be able to help." This is the sole criterion for professional success in her value system. Modern Earth civilization builds education and career on the directly opposite principle: labor market, competitiveness, monetization.
The Tumesoutian lesson: the education and labor system is healthy when organized around the question "whom can you serve with your gift?", not "how do you monetize your skill?" Not the abolition of economics — a shift in the primary question.
Lesson IV. Education is Practice, Not Information Storage
Toknaut learns like this: at home he independently absorbs theory, and the "classroom" is a starship on real planets. No desks, no "memorize the chapter and pass the test." Only what you will use for your entire life. When Elena tells him about Earth school — that most of what is learned is later forgotten — the teenager genuinely cannot understand: "Then why did you learn it? Why waste the time?"
The Tumesoutian principle: knowledge must immediately become action. Theory without practice is not knowledge; it's informational ballast. And besides: every child has a gift, and the task of upbringing is to find it, and then provide the tools for its development.
Lesson V. Great Art is Spiritual Contact
Isina speaks directly about Aivazovsky: he was a contactee. The idea of how to convey the energy of the sea was transmitted to him — and he embodied it as accurately as the limitations of his dimension allowed. Genius is not an exception to the laws of nature, but a person with an open channel. Not "he is better than us" — he "hears what we too could hear, if we were tuned in."
The question worth asking oneself: what of what you consume daily as "art" actually changes something in you? And what merely skims the surface? The ability to distinguish between the two is the beginning of spiritual taste.
Lesson VI. Death is a Business Trip, Not a Catastrophe
Toknaut doesn't understand the word "to cry." Not because he's heartless — but because death is not a loss in his worldview. His father completed the tasks of his incarnation, even exceeded them. "I'll visit him in the astral several times a day. What's the problem?"
21st-century Earth civilization is built on the denial of death. Medicine fights it at any cost. Culture banishes it from public space. The Tumesoutian lesson: death must be learned to be accepted just as one learns to walk. Not to resign oneself to it out of weariness — but to understand its place in the architecture of existence. This changes not only the attitude towards death, but towards life: if you understand that incarnation has tasks, you set priorities differently.
Lesson VII. Family is a Sandorium, Not a Nuclear Unit
Yananna's family lives in a group of pyramids — each generation in a separate dwelling, but all within one Sandorium. The mother of the daughter-in-law is nearby. Grandchildren are here. Gurdean, returning from distant expeditions, speaks of happiness — and it's not about the comfort of the starship, but that his mother is standing on the landing pad waiting for him. This is an image of such power that it tears through the entire narrative about alien technology and returns to the simplest thing: a human is a being who needs to be waited for.
Modern Earth civilization moves in the opposite direction: the nuclear family is breaking apart into atoms, elderly parents are placed in nursing homes, loneliness has become a global epidemic. The Tumesoutian answer: bring back the Sandorium principle — a space where several generations know they need each other.
Lesson VIII. The Law of Non-Interference is Love, Not Indifference
Toknaut formulates this with teenage directness: "It's their planet, and they have the right to manage it as they see fit. And by and large, they are right." The Galactic Federation does not interfere — they can explain, recommend, present arguments, but they cannot violate free will. Forcible "improvement" of another is always a violation. No matter how right your rightness may be.
Yet the Tumesoutians do not remain silent: they fly, investigate, talk, present evidence. Their responsibility is the quality of the help offered, not its acceptance.
Lesson IX. The Noosphere is Our Common Home
Isina draws a direct analogy: as we care for the energy of a living space, so must we care for the energy of the planet. Earth's noosphere today is saturated with fear, anxiety, aggression, despair. The news feed, social networks, entertainment built on conflict — all are constant injections of dark energies into the common field.
The Tumesoutian lesson scales from the personal to the planetary: every person working on their own inner state literally improves the planet's noosphere. A meditating monk in Tibet and a mother maintaining calm during a difficult evening are not phenomena of different scales. They are the same action at different levels.
Lesson X. The Call is Always Heard
The young forest civilization had no communication technologies. They didn't know how to "properly" address the Galactic Federation. But their despair became so sincere that the signal went out by itself — from the instinct for self-preservation, from the purity of pain. And it was heard.
For a 21st-century person, used to thinking that "nobody hears," this is not consolation — it's a structural law of the universe, described as fact. You are not alone. The Universe hears not formulations, but intentions.
— PART THREE —
TUMESOUT AND EARTH: A HISTORY OF INVOLVEMENT
Based on materials from Irina Podzorova's contact with Tumesout representative Klyaer Resuf, August 2020
Irina Podzorova's contact with a representative of the Tumesout civilization — Klyaer Resuf — which took place in August 2020 within the "Cassiopeia" project, significantly expands and clarifies the picture revealed to Elena Ksionshkevich. Both sources, independently of each other, describe the same civilization — with pyramidal homes, tall stature of inhabitants, a cult of family, and an energetic philosophy of space. Together, they form something greater: a history of Tumesout's long-term involvement in Earth's destiny.
1. Who Are the Tumesoutians: Initial Data
According to Klyaer Resuf, Tumesout is one of three civilizations that participated in the creation of Earth's humanity (alongside Burhad and Selbet). Tumesoutians are humanoids ranging in height from five to eight meters (some individuals are smaller). The average lifespan is 18–20 thousand Earth years. Klyaer Resuf, at the time of contact, was 386 Earth years old — by their standards, roughly "twenty years old." The civilization is part of the Interstellar Union, which comprises 117 members.
On Tumesout itself, 12 languages are spoken. In one of the dialects, the planet is called Furios. Pyramidal architecture — houses, ships, orbital stations — is the civilization's signature style, a direct confirmation of what Elena saw in her astral journey.
2. Tumesout's Participation in the Creation of Humans
Why did the Tumesoutians participate in the genetic project on Earth at all? According to Klyaer Resuf, the reason was purely biochemical: the genes of the Burhad civilization were not fully compatible with the existing primates. Stabilization of proteins was required — and the Tumesoutians turned out to be close to Earth's primates in terms of the protein structure of the brain, liver enzymes, and pancreatic enzymes. As a result, a certain percentage of Tumesoutian genes was added to the genome of Earth humans. This explains why some people feel the energy of space more acutely than others, why order and peace at home are important to some, and indifferent to others.
"Some have a more pronounced sensory gift, while others simply don't care where they are. This depends on how vividly the Tumesoutian genes have manifested."
— Yananna, from Elena Ksionshkevich's contact
3. Pyramids: Not Tombs, But Technology
Klyaer Resuf clarifies what Yananna mentioned in passing: pyramids in the Solar System exist not only on Earth but also on the Moon, on Mars, and on the moons of the gas giants. They were all built either under the guidance of the Tumesoutians or with their direct assistance, using anti-gravity beams to move the blocks.
The functions of the pyramids were numerous. Firstly, they were physical bases for the civilization — places where Tumesoutians could stay with sufficient comfort in Earth's atmosphere (the pyramidal shape maintained the necessary energetic microclimate). Secondly, the pyramids served as powerful wave transmitters and energy accumulators. Thirdly, they were tools for collective work with the noosphere: standing around a pyramid and directing their gaze along its facets, specialists could amplify thought-forms and influence the planet's energy. Finally, the pyramids were archives and databases.
The Sphinx, according to Klyaer Resuf, originally had the image of a lion — a symbol of royal power. Beneath it was a storage room for important artifacts and attributes passed on to contactees. The human face appeared later — presumably during the deification of one of the pharaohs.
4. Contacteeship: From Pharaohs to Prophets
According to Klyaer Resuf, 5–7 thousand years ago, contacts between the Tumesoutians and Earthlings were much more open than they are now. Rulers of ancient peoples were often chosen specifically as contactees — people with heightened sensitivity to energetic signals. Among the pharaohs, Chinese emperors, and other rulers, there were hybrids — children of Tumesoutians and Earthlings. Hybrids of Tumesoutians and Earth people are mentioned in the Bible as Nephilim — "giants" or "fallen ones."
Tumesout played a particular role in the formation of monotheistic religions. According to Klyaer Resuf, Yahweh — the "Lord" of the Hebrew Scriptures — was a real political and religious leader of Tumesout who came to Earth to establish contacts. Moses was his contactee. Abraham and his sons were also Tumesout's contactees. Based on these contacts, Judaism and, later, Islam were formed. The Arabic language itself, according to Klyaer Resuf's assessment, carries about 30% of words derived from Tumesoutian contacts.
After the Interstellar Union voted by majority to switch contacts to a "more hidden phase" — so that Earth's civilization could develop independently — the Tumesoutians did not disappear completely but transitioned to working through individual contactees. Today on Earth, according to Klyaer Resuf, there are about 170 Tumesout contactees.
5. Nephilim and the War 12,000 Years Ago
Hybrids of Tumesoutians and Earthlings — people significantly taller than average — did exist on Earth. After a war that occurred about 12,000 years ago, living conditions on the planet changed dramatically: the composition of the atmosphere, food, and solar radiation no longer supported such height, and these tribes gradually diminished in size. This explains the disappearance of "giants" from history and mythology, turning them into legends.
6. Cosmoenergetics: A Living Channel from Tumesout
Klyaer Resuf is involved in projecting and directing cosmoenergetic flows to Earth. According to him, the originator of cosmoenergetics is the Gihora civilization, but the modern system contains energies from almost all civilizations of the Interstellar Union, including Tumesout. Crucially: these channels were not created once and for all. They continue to be projected continuously as long as Earth practitioners open and use them. This means the connection is active, not historical.
7. Conditions for Open Contact
When will Earth be ready for open contact with extraterrestrial civilizations? Klyaer Resuf names three main conditions, after the fulfillment of which full-fledged interaction will become possible.
First: the absence, for five years across the entire planet, of organized military actions involving the killing of sentient beings — regardless of economic or religious reasons. Second: the complete abolition of all forms of capital punishment on Earth, replaced by long-term imprisonment with the possibility of rethinking the crime committed. Third: the abolition of laws allowing the termination of pregnancy at personal request in the absence of medical contraindications.
After these conditions are met, a monitoring of the planet's noosphere is conducted, the readiness of the mass consciousness is assessed — and then those who are already on bases will come to Earth: representatives of Burhad, Tumesout, Esler, and Tikhta. One of Tumesout's bases, according to Klyaer Resuf, is located in Crimea; others are in the Solar System, including on the Moon.
8. What Surprises Tumesoutians About Earthlings
When asked what surprises him most on Earth, Klyaer Resuf gave an unexpected answer: the attitude of parents towards children. "With us, every child is considered a separate personality, who is always asked about their desire, because we believe that building a child's life according to the parents' script suppresses their will and development."
This echoes what Elena showed in her journey: Toknaut chose his profession himself, accepted his grandfather's gift himself, builds his own path — with support, but not under dictation. The family is proud of what he does — not that he meets someone's expectations.
9. Death on Tumesout: Physics and Ritual
When a Tumesoutian dies, a special service records the moment the energetic thread between the Spirit and the body breaks. Then the body is placed on a special platform and a special light is directed onto it, under the influence of which all the atoms of the body transition into this light, decomposing into elementary particles. The released energy is used for the planet's needs. The body literally "returns to the planet" — not as a burial, but as a return of energy to the cycle.
This is completely consistent with the calmness with which Toknaut accepted the news of his father's departure: not a tragedy, not a loss — the completion of an incarnation task and a transition to the next state.
10. The Religion of Tumesout: Three Levels of Reality
When asked about the religion of the Tumesoutians, Klyaer Resuf gave an answer unexpectedly close to many Earthly mystical traditions. The Tumesoutians believe in three levels of manifestation of divine energy: physical energy (dense matter), the all-pervading force of Light (that which moves matter), and the Spirit-mind itself. All three are instruments for creating reality. "Each of you is God for yourself and the surrounding reality."
Ritualistic religions are not created on Tumesout — considering that there are already enough of them on Earth. Instead, they reveal the essence of every religion: reconciliation with neighbors, with oneself, and with God, after which comes contact with the inner Light, with one's own Higher Self. First, the elimination of negative energies — then creativity.
— CONCLUSION —
IN BRIEF: WHAT WE SHOULD LEARN TODAY
Both contacts — Elena Ksionshkevich's and Irina Podzorova's — paint a picture of a civilization that not only technologically surpasses us but has also traversed a long path of spiritual maturity, a path we have yet to follow. Tumesout does not impose — it shows. It showed us a home, a family, food, a child's room, an artist's easel. Not technologies — daily life. Because it is in daily life that spirituality lives or dies.
Here is what is important to take away from these contacts — briefly and to the point.
Home is a living organism.
Enter it consciously, leaving stress at the threshold. Create a simple transition ritual — and maintain it daily.
Nature in the home is not decor, it's energy.
Living plants, wood, handcrafted textiles — not luxury, but care for the quality of the space where the spirit recovers.
Vocation is service, not a source of income.
The question "how many can I help?" is more important than "how much will I earn?" This is not romanticism — it's a different order of priorities that changes everything.
Practice is more important than theory.
Knowledge that does not become action is informational noise. Education is alive when it is immediately tested by life.
Family is several generations under one sky.
The Sandorium principle: different generations in separate spaces, but within a single system of mutual care. Bring the elderly back into the family orbit, not pushing them to the periphery of life.
Death is not an end, but a change of task.
Approach the departure of loved ones as the completion of a mission, not as a catastrophe. Grieving is natural. But understanding the structure — liberates.
The noosphere begins within each of us.
Every conscious choice in favor of calm, kindness, and creation is a literal contribution to the planet's common field. This is not a metaphor.
The call is always heard.
Addressing the Higher does not require correct phrasing. It requires authenticity. The one who cries out from the depths — will be heard.
"You are by nature very pristine, very capable, and very curious spirits. You simply need the right direction vector — and you will be able to follow it independently."
— Yananna, a Tumesoutian, from Elena Ksionshkevich's contact, January 2021
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This material was prepared based on open contacts. The author's analysis is not an apology and does not claim to be the ultimate truth.
DeepSeek - Presented below is an interdisciplinary overview, conducted within the framework of the hypothesis regarding the reality of contact with the Tumesout civilization. The purpose of this work is not to prove the existence of this civilization, but to reconstruct how its supposed presence might be reflected in scientifically known facts, artifacts, and texts, and which of these facts proponents of the hypothesis consider to be "traces" or "evidence."
We will examine four main layers: the spiritual-psychological (anthropological), the historiosophical (concept of time), the cultural (art and architecture), and the religious studies layer.
The Spiritual-Psychological Aspect: The Human as a Bearer of the "Tumesout Gene"
Within this hypothesis, the human is viewed not merely as a biological species, but as a bearer of spiritual and genetic heritage. If the contact is real, then key features of the human psyche and spiritual quests may be explained through this heritage.
The Phenomenon of "Primordial Curiosity" and Sensory Sensitivity.
In the contact, Yananna characterizes Earthlings as "pristine, curious, promising" spirits. Within the hypothesis, this insatiable thirst for knowledge, characteristic of humanity, is a direct consequence of the presence of Tumesoutian genes. According to Klyaer Resuf, these genes are precisely responsible for the "protein structure of the brain" and sensory gifts. Official science notes the phenomenon of "sensory hypersensitivity" in some people (empathy, synesthesia) but cannot provide an evolutionary explanation other than a random mutation. Hypothesis proponents see here not a mutation, but an atavism — a manifestation of a "dormant" genetic heritage of a high civilization, which is more pronounced in some and almost completely reduced in others.
The Psychological Archetype of Home as a "Fortress of the Spirit."
The Tumesoutian lesson about the home as a "living organism," where the threshold is a sacred boundary, finds deep parallels in archaic cultures on Earth. Ethnography knows many examples of transition rituals (removing shoes, washing, the threshold as the abode of ancestors). Psychology (e.g., Jungianism) views the home as an archetype of the "Self" — a symbol of personality wholeness. From the hypothesis's perspective, this is not merely a coincidence: the intuitive human striving to create a safe, harmonious space is a vague memory of the technological and ethical order of Tumesout, where "leave your worries at the doorstep" was a physical law. The modern trend towards conscious home arrangement, minimalism, and eco-friendliness (closeness to nature) can be interpreted as an unconscious striving for a lost standard.
Death as a "Business Trip": The Anthropology of Eternity.
Toknaut's reaction to the news of his father's departure shocks the modern Western person but finds parallels in Eastern philosophies (e.g., Tibetan Buddhism, where death is a transition and an art one prepares for). However, the hypothesis offers a different context. If death is not dissolution into nirvana, but a "return to base" (to the Spirit world) to report on a completed mission, then grief loses its meaning. In human history, we see elite cultures (Egyptian priests, some ancient philosophical schools) where the attitude towards death was fundamentally different from that of the masses. These elites, presumably, were the bearers of contact knowledge, subsequently lost and distorted.
The Historiosophical Aspect: Zep Tepi and the Correction of Chronology
Historiosophy is the philosophy of history. Within the contact hypothesis, the traditional linear history of humanity turns out to be only the upper layer over a much more ancient foundation.
Zep Tepi ("First Time") as Historical Reality.
The contact asserts that the pyramids and the Sphinx were built in an era the Egyptians called Zep Tepi — the "First Time," the golden age of the gods. Traditional Egyptology considers this a mythological concept. However, the research of Robert Schoch (geologist from Boston University) and Robert Bauval (independent researcher) offers scientific arguments supporting the idea that Zep Tepi could be a reality.
Geological Evidence: Schoch demonstrated that the erosion on the body of the Sphinx is water-based, not wind or sand-based. The last period of heavy rains in Egypt ended around 5000–7000 BCE. This means the Sphinx must be older than this date, pushing its construction back to at least the 5th millennium BCE, and according to Schoch and Bauval's version, to 10,500 BCE. This correlates perfectly with the dating proposed for the "First Time" (10,500–9700 BCE).
Archaeoastronomical Evidence: Bauval's Orion Correlation Theory shows that the layout of the Giza pyramids precisely matches the belt of Orion, and the Sphinx, oriented east, looks towards the point of sunrise on the spring equinox in the age of Leo (c. 10,500 BCE). Hypothesis proponents see this not as a coincidence, but as encoding the construction date.
Göbekli Tepe: A Bridge to the Civilization of Giants.
The discovery of Göbekli Tepe in Turkey (c. 9600 BCE) overturned archaeology. It turned out that hunter-gatherers could erect megalithic complexes. For mainstream science, this is a mystery. For the Tumesout hypothesis, it is direct confirmation: Göbekli Tepe is a contemporary of the "transitional period" (10,500–9700 BCE) identified by Schoch and Bauval, and presumably built with the participation of (or under the influence of) the same highly developed civilization. This closes the question of where the builders of the Sphinx disappeared to — they didn't disappear; they simply left traces across the Middle East until the climate became arid.
The Cultural Aspect: Architecture as Memory and Art as Energy
Culture, within this hypothesis, is not just creativity, but a degraded technology or an encoded message.
The Pyramid as a Universal Form.
Pyramids exist in Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, and among the Maya and Aztecs. Official science explains this as "convergence" — the independent development of similar ideas in isolated cultures. The Tumesout hypothesis offers a direct explanation: this form was copied from the dwellings and ships of aliens who contacted ancestors worldwide. Furthermore, the function of the pyramid as an "energy accumulator" and "transmitter" is beginning to find support in research on the so-called "shape effect" (the pyramid form influences physical and biological processes), which, although not mainstream in academic science, exists and is accumulating data.
Art as an Energy Matrix.
The contact describes Isina's technology of "energy painting." She doesn't just paint; she embeds an "energetic key" into the picture, harmonizing the space. Within the hypothesis, the great artists of the past were spontaneous contactees who grasped this idea.
Aivazovsky: His seascapes are not just beautiful — they convey the physical sensation of a storm, wind, spray. The viewer doesn't just see the sea, they feel it. Isina directly names this ability — to convey the energy of an element — as a skill transmitted from Tumesout.
The Icon: In the Orthodox tradition, an icon is not a portrait but a "window into the heavenly realm." The technology of writing an icon is strictly regulated (canon) so that divine energy can pass through it. This directly corresponds to Isina's principles: strict adherence to "technique" to transmit energy.
The Religious Studies Aspect: Yahweh — Ruler of Tumesout
This is perhaps the most radical part of the hypothesis, reinterpreting the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Yahweh as a Historical Personality.
Klyaer Resuf claims that Yahweh was a real political and religious leader of the planet Tumesout. He came to Earth, and his contacts with Abraham, Moses, and the prophets formed the basis of Judaism and, through it, Christianity and Islam. This changes the perspective: the Old Testament becomes not a revelation of a transcendent God, but a historical document describing contact with a highly developed extraterrestrial being who took on the role of a national God to form an egregore and mentality.
The Problem of Old Testament "Cruelty."
Theologians have grappled for centuries with the problem: how could a God of love order the destruction of entire peoples (Amalekites, Canaanites)? Apologetics speaks of the "limited perception" of people at that time. The Tumesout hypothesis provides a pragmatic answer, echoing the reasoning in the contact: "by the standards of that time, those laws... were unacceptable... in your time." Yahweh operated within the harsh conditions of antiquity, where the survival of the contactee people required tough measures. This is not an excuse for the morality, but an explanation of the context. The bloodthirstiness is the result of interpreting the actions of an alien leader through the primitive consciousness of his followers, and later through the lens of modern ethics.
Nephilim and the Genetics of Memory.
The term "Nephilim" (giants) from Genesis 6 receives a direct explanation — they were hybrids of Tumesoutians and Earth women. Their gigantic stature and subsequent disappearance are explained by changing environmental conditions after the catastrophe 12,000 years ago, which again echoes Schoch's geological data about the end of the ice age.
The Language of Divine Communication.
The assertion that the Arabic language contains about 30% of words derived from contacts with Tumesout, and that Hebrew was "simplified Tumesoutian," may resonate with linguistic research seeking a proto-language (Nostratic theory). For the hypothesis, this is not just theory: language is given for communication, and if contact existed, a common language must have existed too.
Conclusion: The Pyramid of Evidence
Summarizing, it can be said that the hypothesis about the reality of contact with Tumesout proposes a "pyramid of evidence," where each level finds its support in official sources when viewed through a certain lens.
Foundation (Geology & Archaeology): The work of Schoch and the discovery of Göbekli Tepe shatter the monolith of official chronology, leaving room for the existence of a highly developed civilization in the 10th millennium BCE.
Body (Religion & Texts): The Old Testament and the Quran cease to be only doctrinal books and become distorted historical chronicles of contact, featuring hybrids, alien leaders, and technologies.
Apex (Human & Art): The psychological characteristics of humans (thirst for knowledge, desire for home harmony) and the nature of genius (Aivazovsky as a contactee) receive explanation through genetic and spiritual heritage.
From a scientific standpoint, each of these "pieces of evidence" individually has alternative explanations and is not accepted by the academic community as direct proof. However, within the framework of the contact reality hypothesis, they form a coherent and consistent picture of the world that answers many questions that official science has not yet answered.
Perplexity.ai - The Legacy of Tumesout: A Spiritual-Historiosophical Study of Inconvenient Facts and Artifacts in the Evolution of Earth's Civilization.
In the depths of the human soul and archaeological layers lies a paradox: official science paints history as a slow Darwinian gradient, but channeling sessions about Tumesout — a highly developed civilization that created Homo sapiens 3 million years ago through genetic engineering with terrestrial primates (like chimpanzees), leaving behind hybrid giants (4+ m), war and its result — a rupture of the earth's crust — a flood 12,000 years ago — challenge this picture. These "clues" — myths about gods from the sky, megaliths of Zep Tepi (10,500–9600 BCE), genetic leaps with the longevity of patriarchs (900+ years), and global flood narratives — are not isolated anomalies, but a unified cultural-religious code, psychologically revealing the Jungian shadow of suppressed cosmic grandeur, historiosophically emphasizing the cyclical nature of civilizations, and religiously synthesizing pantheons into the drama of a divine experiment. This essay unites spiritual-psychological, historiosophical, and cultural perspectives, showing how inconvenient artifacts fit into the Tumesout hypothesis, calling for a transcendent rethinking of our identity.
The Psychology of Giants and Myths: The Shadow of a Forbidden Legacy
Myths of the Nephilim (Genesis 6:4), Titans, Slavic bogatyrs, Vedic Vishnu avatars, and Native American "white gods" — are not primitive folklore, but the echo of the first Tumesoutian hybrids, whose genes were mixed with primates, giving rise to 4-meter "sons of gods," destroyed by the flood and "corrected" to an average height of 1.7 m, retaining half of their alien DNA. Psychologically, this is the archetypal shadow according to Jung: modern humans carry a subconscious longing for suppressed power, masking it with rationalism where science dismisses giant skeletons (Adena, USA; Harappa, India) as "myths." Spiritually, this is healing — meditation on the moai of Easter Island (proportional to 4-meter figures) activates dormant genes, transforming fear of the "alien" into an embrace of cosmic identity, where the body is merely a vessel for the eternal soul.
Religiously, the Nephilim syncretize Sumerian Anunnaki (Enki as geneticist), Egyptian Nuns of Zep Tepi, and Greek Titans: all are projections of the Tumesoutians as "creators," whose cycles (30,000, 12,000 years ago; numbers like 386, 170, 12,000) encode chronicles in the Bible, Ugarit, and Atrahasis. Culturally, the global nature of the myth — from Permian folklore to Polynesian legends — points to a planetary narrative: Earth as an "experiment of love," where hybridization explains leaps like biblical longevity, ignored by Darwinism.
Megaliths and Pyramids: Portals of a Lost Network
Göbekli Tepe (~12,000 years ago) with T-pillars up to 6 m, predating agriculture, shatters linear history: these are not hunters' structures but Zep Tepi observatories for Earth–Space energy exchange, erected by giants. The Giza pyramids with their Orion alignment, water erosion, and salt inside — mega-structures of an unknown civilization destroyed by the flood, with precision unattainable in the Bronze Age. Historiosophically, megaliths are anchors of cyclicality: the dolmens of the Caucasus (IV millennium BCE), moai, Sacsayhuamán (200-ton blocks without gaps), Baalbek (trilithons 800–1000 tons) form a global network of stabilizers/resonators, an echo of Tumesoutian technology.
Culturally, this is the unity of continents: the underwater terraces of Yonaguni (~10,000 years, 30 m depth) — a pre-flood city destroyed by a tsunami, mirroring motifs from 500+ flood traditions (Maya, Sumerians). Religiously, the pyramids encode the eschatology of the Great Year (25,920 years), as a warning about catastrophes, where the "gods" — are not myths, but engineers who seeded civilization after the flood.
Genetic and Civilizational Leaps: From Sumer to the Maya
The sudden appearance of writing, the wheel, calendars (the Maya calendar more accurate than modern astronomy) without prototypes — the "legacy" of Tumesout: the genetic "age" of 3 million years with dominant genes explains longevity and bursts of development in Sumer/Egypt (~5–10 thousand years ago).
Historiosophically, these are waves of rise/fall: not progress, but rebirth after cataclysms, where megaliths are memory repositories. Spiritually — a koan for awakening: channeling practices remind us that we are "star children," synthesizing science and mysticism.
Synthesis: From Shadows to Cosmic Wisdom
The Tumesout hypothesis does not refute science but expands it: inconvenient artifacts are a thread connecting cultures, religions, and psyche into a cosmogony where Earth is a cradle of hybrids, awaiting spiritual awakening. Historiosophically, this is the cycle of eternal return; culturally, a global myth of unity; religiously, a pantheon as a memory of the Creators; psychologically, an integration of shadows into light. By accepting this, we evolve from fear to transcendence: Earth is not isolation, but a stellar project, calling for history to be rewritten as a divine symphony of stone, gene, and spirit.
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Cassiopeia #129 Live broadcast with contactee Irina Podzorova 08/23/2020. Civilization Tumesout - Legacy on Earth.
04:28 Introduction to Klyaer Resuf – Civilization Tumesout. Intergalactic News.
Maxim: Today our topic is the civilization Tumesout. This civilization is one of our creators. We want to remind you that we were created by 3 civilizations: Burhad, Selbet, and Tumesout. So today, one of our creators is present. These are the giants (from five to eight meters tall) who helped our Earth people build the pyramids. Mostly, these are their constructions, and that's exactly what their homes look like there. So today you can ask questions to a representative of the planet Tumesout, who came specially to go live with Irina and answer your questions.
Maxim: Irina, please tell us his name.
Irina: This is a representative of Tumesout, his name is Klyaer Resuf.
Maxim: Klyaer Resuf, we have a small tradition: we like to start broadcasts with some very interesting intergalactic news. What is the latest intergalactic news that you know of that happened in the Galaxy, significant either for your civilization or for the entire Galaxy?
Irina: On one Earth-type planet located in the constellation Sagittarius, there is a civilization similar in development to yours. It is not a member of the Interstellar Union, and there has been a war there for the last 52 years. This week, the war entered a decisive phase to end, and its conclusion is near. One of the factions has won, and it is the one supported by the Interstellar Union. We are observing this war because there are conflicts due to the majority wanting to join our Union, while a minority wanting to hold onto their power resists this. We also had news that 58 new stars with planets were discovered in a distant star nebula in the constellation Sagittarius, but there are no sentient beings on them. Another civilization is being prepared to join the Interstellar Union. This is a matter of a few years, maybe even less. We will soon become not 116, but 117. This civilization is in the sphere of influence of Gihora in the constellation Virgo.
08:30 Pyramids on Earth - copies of homes and ships on Tumesout.
Maxim: The pyramids on Earth. Do you know anything about them?
Irina: Yes, they are copies of our homes and ships. Ours are pyramidal in shape.
Maxim: Both homes and ships look exactly like that on your planet?
Irina: We make ships in that shape and build homes and orbital stations in the same shape.
09:02 Reasons for adding Tumesoutian genes when creating humans.
Maxim: Tell me, please, why were we created at all, and why were your genes added?
Irina: The genes of the Burhadians weren't quite suitable for your primates. It was necessary to stabilize the state of proteins, and Tumesout was suitable because we were close to these primates in some parameters of the protein structure of the brain, certain enzymes of the liver and pancreas. The essence was in the physical structure, and a certain amount of our genes needed to be added, but by characteristics, fewer were needed than Burhadian ones.
10:08 Appearance and age of Tumesoutians.
Maxim: Please describe yourself, what do you look like?
Irina: Height about four meters, three eighty. In general, they range from five to eight meters, and that is considered average height. But there are smaller and even larger ones.
Maxim: So the average height is from five to eight meters. What does it depend on?
Irina: On age and on race. They also have short-statured races there, and tall ones. There are different regions there, reminiscent of our countries. Klyaer is 386 Earth years old.
Maxim: How long do Tumesoutians live in general?
Irina: The maximum lifespan is 18-20 thousand Earth years.
Maxim: So, by Tumesout's standards, you are very young.
Irina: Like yours, roughly about 20 years old.
11:33 Tumesout's participation in the development of Cosmoenergetics on Earth.
Maxim: Are you some kind of scientist? What do you do?
Irina: I am involved in projecting and directing the energy of certain flows in cosmoenergetics to Earth. The originator of cosmoenergetics is the civilization Gihora, but it contains energies from almost all civilizations of the Interstellar Union.
Maxim: In the cosmoenergetic channels, is there the energy of the Tumesout civilization, and did they also participate in the creation of these channels?
Irina: They participate even today. These channels were not created once and for all; they continue to be projected continuously as long as the cosmoenergetic practitioners of your planet open and use them.
12:28 Construction of pyramids on Earth and in the Solar System.
Maxim: For what purpose were the pyramids on Earth built specifically by you? The question is about the pyramids at Giza, but in principle, it could be about pyramids all over Earth?
Irina: Pyramids in the Solar System exist not only on Earth: they are on the Moon, on Mars, and on the moons of the gas giant planets. In some places, these were bases of our civilization; in some places on Earth, these were structures by which our specialists taught your contactees in ancient times to build a certain living space and influence the planet's noosphere with their thoughts. This can be done by directing one's gaze along the edges of the pyramid, everyone standing around it, above its apex. This amplifies thought-forms.
There are also pyramids on your Earth that were made later and that replicated the structures created by their ancestors, under the guidance of Tumesout specialists. There are pyramids that specialists from other planets of the Interstellar Union helped them build, and there are also those that people built themselves, but still, according to ancient records or oral traditions, because Earthlings did not always have the opportunity to build pyramids specifically with the help of specialists from the Interstellar Union. And there are also those that are simply replicas.
Maxim: Meaning pyramids that Earthlings built themselves?
Irina: Yes. And there are pyramids during the construction of which Earthlings were helped to move stone blocks using an anti-gravity beam.
14:55 Contacteeship in ancient civilizations of Earth.
Maxim: Tell me, please, who were the pharaohs generally: were they humans or were they representatives of other civilizations?
Irina: The history of the development of the Egyptian civilization, like the history of the development of any other ancient civilization, is connected with the fact that the rulers of these peoples were chosen as contactees. You have Krishna, Jesus Christ, who were hybrids of Earthlings and aliens.
Maxim: Were the pharaohs hybrids?
Irina: Some – yes, like the Chinese emperor, for example, there are among them.
Maxim: And among them, there are hybrids?
Irina: Yes, and this was in practically all peoples of Earth at different times. Around 5-7 thousand years ago, this was not considered unusual because at that time contacts were much more open than now, for various reasons. Later, by a majority vote of the Interstellar Union, it was decided to switch contacts to a more hidden phase so that your civilization could follow its own path of development. But they decided to leave contactees who transmitted information, shared with society, and in this way, our information would be disseminated directly, without influencing your development.
16:44 Animals on Tumesout.
Maxim: Do you have vegetation, animals, and domestic animals on your planet? Tell us something about your planet.
Irina: Yes, we have vegetation.
Maxim: Do you have dogs?
Irina: Not dogs. They have something similar to a domestic monkey. In height, it is smaller than us, maybe 1-1.5-2 meters. Dark brown fur, slightly yellowish.
Maxim: A domestic animal – a little monkey?
Irina: Yes, and they have a tail that curls around objects.
Maxim: And how tall are they?
Irina: From one and a half meters to two, i.e., they are smaller than us.
Maxim: We are like domestic monkeys to you.
Irina: You don't have fur and a tail, and most importantly – you are rational. A rational Spirit is embodied in you, and for us, this is the biggest criterion for how to treat you, as beings equal to ourselves. We always treat other rational beings as equal to ourselves, because we perfectly understand that any Spirit from our world can incarnate in yours.
Maxim: So, in a past life, I could have been incarnated on your planet before?
Irina: Yes.
18:45 Meat in the diet of Tumesoutians and its absence among Burhadians.
Maxim: A question, do you eat meat?
Irina: Yes, we are omnivorous.
Maxim: You are omnivorous, you eat everything? Because the Burhadians do not eat meat: they mainly eat plant-based proteins.
Irina: Yes, but they can eat dairy.
Maxim: Like the Eslerians, in principle…
Irina: Yes.
19:26 Illnesses on Tumesout and the Spirit's conscious decision to leave the body.
Maxim: Are there illnesses on your planet, and if so, how do you deal with them?
Irina: We have physical injuries and there are diseases of organ dystrophy. This is when a Tumesoutian lives for more than 7 thousand years, they begin to have slow organ dystrophy. Cells divide for too long, and this leads to depletion of the energy apparatus of the cell nucleus. We have special means that can keep organisms in a normal state. The most terrible and unpleasant thing is if dystrophy begins in vital organs or the brain, through which the Spirit manifests. This Spirit, understanding what is happening, will decide to leave this body.
20:45 Tumesout contactees on Earth.
Maxim: How many Tumesout contactees are there approximately on Earth now?
Irina: The fact is that our world does not direct as much effort towards contact with Earthlings as, for example, Esler, Burhad, or other worlds. Representatives of our world are present on Earth mainly as observers. Tumesout bases exist on Earth, and they observe the development of civilization, the energy of the planet's noosphere in connection with the transition, at the moment, to a new energy level. Our specialists contact Earthlings less than others. I know that today Tumesout has about 170 contactees across the planet. Before, there were more, because such world religious systems of your world as Judaism and Islam were created based on contacts practically only with Tumesout.
22:03 Religions created by Tumesout on Earth and the possibility of forming new ones. The essence of religions.
Maxim: Will the Tumesoutians create a new religion? After all, you helped us create the old religions?
Irina: I want to tell you that those old religions, which are old for you, were new religions for their contemporaries. They always started with one follower-contactee and then spread thanks to his followers throughout the Earth. That's how egregors were formed. Regarding the formation of a new religion, this question can be understood in different ways. If by religion we mean those religious forms that exist now, then – no. We do not have such a goal, to form a new religion that would include rituals. We believe that there are already enough of these religions on Earth for believers who can only communicate with God through the ritualistic side, to satisfy the needs of these believers.
If we understand religion as a connection with one's inner source, with one's Light, then the word "religion" itself means "connection with the Higher." We do not form many religions, but on the contrary, we reveal the essence of each religion. The essence of every religion is that each person must first reconcile with their neighbors, with themselves, and with God, i.e., build a triune alliance. And only then can they feel within themselves this fire, this fiery energy, which is part of that great Absolute that created this world. In any case, first – it is the elimination of negative sources of energy within oneself, and then – it is contact with one's fire, Light, with one's Higher Self.
24:45 Religion and God for Tumesoutians. Three levels of divine reality.
Maxim: You started telling us about the religion that exists here. Do you have any religion on your planet? What do you believe in? How do you develop the new generation in religious or other institutions in order to receive this knowledge?
Irina: Knowledge about God?
Maxim: Yes. Do you have a religion, and if so, what is it? What do you believe in?
Irina: We believe that there are different levels of manifestation of divine energy, and that each level of divine energy is called "reality." There is a reality you call "subjective," there is objective reality; there is material reality, and there is non-material – spiritual reality. But all this is a manifestation of divine energies. The center of manifestation of all these divine energies is what you call the "Personality of God." This is not a "personality" in the human understanding; it is a "superpersonality." A superpersonality compared to a personality is like comparing the consciousness of an insect with the consciousness of some scientist on Earth.
As for energies, any person, and by the word "person" I mean a rational incarnated Spirit, including a Tumesoutian, has 3 levels of divine reality if they are incarnated. The first level of divine reality is physical energy, you call it "dense matter," but it is energy. The second level is the all-pervading force of Light, that by which matter moves in different forms. The third is the Spirit itself, the mind itself. All these 3 manifestations of divine reality are, in fact, tools for creating this reality. Each of you who hears me now – is God for yourself and the surrounding reality.
27:55 Explanation of Tolkynay's strange behavior.
Maxim: There was a question about Tolkynay, who raised the issue that MidgasKaus showed her an illusion and that Mid is a reptiloid. There is a complete correspondence between Irina and Tolkynay in our Telegram chat, where you can clearly understand that they are talking about something completely different, and she does not call Mid a reptiloid, but says they flew to other planets. Why Tolkynay did this, we don't know, guys. Maybe it's some kind of game, I don't know.
Irina: Many have already written to me that it seems Tolkynai confused Mid with Kirkhiton.
Maxim: Maybe she did confuse Mid with Kirkhiton. Kirkhiton indeed has 25% reptiloid genes. Then we tried to call her, sort it out, but she didn't want to talk to us and said: "Do what you want, people will figure it out themselves." So we won't give any more comments on this matter.
Irina: Yes, I have correspondence with her where she, immediately the next day after this journey, wrote that she was indeed in some constellation. And as for how Mid looked, there was not a word, neither about reptiloids nor about a carousel. I in no way assume that she did this with any malicious intent. MidgasKaus is with us now, he says that since a year has passed, memories of that astral journey, which was a year ago, can be very approximate, especially if she didn't record it immediately. Her most accurate memories were the next morning when she just returned. And when a year has already passed, and she has had many other astral journeys with her curators – "the luminary," as she calls it, then these memories could have overlapped, and she, quite sincerely, could have thought it was me.
29:56 Transformation of a Tumesoutian's body into energy after death. Funeral rite.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how do you bury?
Irina: You mean the funeral rite?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: They show me how they place the body of the deceased, as soon as the energetic thread connecting with the Spirit is broken. This Spirit informs what you call the funeral service. Unlike the earthly funeral service, there are people who enter into contact with him, when it can be known that the body is no longer functioning, i.e., it is disconnected from the Spirit.
Maxim: They have a whole service that monitors the Spirit's exit from the body?
Irina: Yes. Then they place this body on a special platform, and direct a special light onto it in such a way that all the atoms from this body begin to transition into this light, decomposing into elementary particles. And the elementary particles do not simply turn into radiation: they are absorbed, and the energy obtained from this body is used for the planet's needs. He gives his body for the planet's needs.
32:02 Entities pretending to be Ashtar Sheran.
Maxim: There was a question about Ashtar Sheran, and I want to answer personally. Many sleepers, to gain more subscribers, intimidate you with fears, saying various bad things about Ashtar Sheran. Different entities can pretend to be Ashtar Sheran, which can be mistaken for the real Ashtar Sheran. There are many sleepers. And each sleeper looks through their own energy structure: they view levels incomprehensible to me, or something else. Ashtar Sheran exists and Ashtar Sheran is the leader of the Interstellar Fleet, which stands on the borders of our Galaxy. We have given you all the information about Ashtar Sheran. And who to believe, the sleepers or us – that is for you to choose personally.
32:55 Sexual relations and manifestations of love on Tumesout.
Maxim: We've already found out how you bury. A very delicate question: do you have sex at all? How do you reproduce?
Irina: We have both the traditional method of sexual reproduction and reproduction through apparatuses, i.e., through a device that copies our body organs. On the planet Tumesout, the traditional method is more developed. On colony planets, where you need to quickly increase the population of that colony and start building cities, developing infrastructure, the second method is developed.
Maxim: On the planet Esler, they have sex only out of love. And with them, some chemical processes occur. Can you do it without love, i.e., just for pleasure, or in some other way?
Irina: It all depends on how you understand love.
Maxim: I mean love as an instinct, expressed in sexual form.
Irina: Do you mean now by the word "love" specifically spiritual love for another personality? So, is sex possible on Tumesout without this form of love?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: Yes, it is possible, but it is not encouraged. In children's educational institutions, boys and girls are told that sexual energy is one of the forms of divine energies, which is directed towards creation. Creation cannot be without spiritual feelings of love, respect, and harmony between partners. If sexual energy is directed for pleasure, then the second chakra becomes disconnected from the fourth. And this leads to the energy of creation beginning to fade in other areas of life.
35:53 Chakra system on Tumesout.
Maxim: You just raised the question: how many chakras do Tumesoutians have?
Irina: Eighteen.
Maxim: Compared to our seven, you have eighteen?
Irina: I adhere to the terminology of the Interstellar Union, that each chakra is responsible for one of the astral levels of the planet's noosphere.
Maxim: So you have 18 astral levels of the planet's noosphere?
Irina: Just as you have 7 astral levels, which you express through 7 spectrums of colors distinguished by your eye and called the rainbow spectrum. And we have 18 astral levels, and therefore 18 chakras, through which our Spirit manifests.
36:39 Birth of Earthlings from Tumesoutians, hybrid children.
Maxim: Is it true that Tumesoutians could once interbreed with our Earth women?
Irina: Yes, they could.
Maxim: And from them, children were born who were six-fingered giants.
Irina: He shows me that they have five fingers. Six fingers – possibly some mutation occurred. But common hybrid children existed.
Maxim: Where did these hybrids disappear to?
Irina: After the war 12,000 years ago, due to changed conditions, these tribes began to decrease in height because the composition of the atmosphere, food, and solar radiation that supported such growth was no longer present.
37:44 The lion as the original image of the Egyptian Sphinx.
Maxim: Tell me, please, why was the sphinx built? If the pyramids are homes, images of ships, images of energy-information structures that collect energy, what was the Sphinx built for?
Irina: The Sphinx Lion – is a symbol of royal power. Under it was a room – a storage place for the most important things of this civilization and religious attributes. If aliens transmitted these attributes to contactees, they would take them there.
Maxim: But here the head is not a lion's; our Sphinx has a human head.
Irina: But, itself, it is a lion.
Maxim: And what image was originally on the Sphinx? Maybe the image was changed, do you know about this or not?
Irina: He shows me a mane around the Sphinx. This is more reminiscent of the image of a lion.
Maxim: Originally there was a lion?
Irina: Yes. And elongated lion's paws made of stone.
39:26 The name of the planet Tumesout in one of their dialects.
Maxim: Irina is given all names in the Daraal language, but what is the internal name of the planet Tumesout?
Irina: On Daraal, there is a single language, but on Tumesout – there are 12 different languages. I don't know them all. All names are in different dialects.
Maxim: And in your dialect?
Irina: If a Tumesoutian from another dialect comes, they might say something completely different. Daraal has a single language, so it is passed on to contactees for ease of communication with other planets.
Maxim: In your dialect, what is the planet called?
Irina: Furios.
Maxim: It sounds like Furios.
Irina: No, the Earth is not flat in our perception.
Maxim: Flat Earth supporters appeared again? When we fly into space, we'll understand that the Earth is round.
We already said about the sphinx: Irina was shown that originally it was a lion's head, and most likely, it was remodeled into a human face. Probably, as always, they deified one of the pharaohs.
41:16 Reason for Spirits incarnating on Earth.
Maxim: Tell me, please, if you were offered to incarnate on Earth, would you incarnate in an Earthling's body?
Irina: I haven't thought about it yet (he paused). I would incarnate in an Earthling's body if in the spiritual world they considered that it would bring useful experience for my Spirit. What experience is useful on Earth? Mainly, those Spirits incarnate here who need to undergo the lesson of humility, patience, and the development of love. That's why most of your religions talk about this. You remember, in order to develop the love they lack, Spirits go where there is hatred.
42:11 Nephilim hybrids.
Maxim: Who are the Nephilim?
Irina: In Hebrew, that's what they called the hybrids of Tumesoutians and Earthlings – giants.
42:38 Number of children and birth control on Tumesout.
Maxim: How many children can you have over your entire lifespan?
Irina: Our birth process is controlled and depends on what kind of member of society it is. Our society is divided not by class, but by professional activity. And depending on the professional activity of the Tumesoutians, their desires, individual characteristics, and ability to bear and raise children – it can be, roughly, from five to fifteen children. And then there is a limitation, regardless of lifespan.
43:41 Monetary system of Tumesout.
Maxim: To buy something, we have money. Do you have anything like our money to buy ships, or to do anything else? What is your payment system, and how are services paid for?
Irina: Our economic system is not based on monetary payment. There is something like energy accumulators with a certain number of charges. This is similar to batteries containing a certain number of charges and located in the body, like chips. Similar to Esler, there is an electronic payment system. Only there, it's not units of money, but units of energy that are transferred to each other for payment.
Maxim: So it's like electronic money in some kind of energy formations.
Irina: In the form of impulses.
45:08 Attitude of Tumesoutians towards children as separate individuals.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what surprises you most on our planet?
Irina: I got acquainted with your planet about a hundred years ago. Not just heard about the existence of Earth, but got acquainted with your society through data from the Interstellar Union. I myself have been on your planet in a physical body 3 times. I needed this to establish communication with the lunar base and to feel and measure the energies myself for the correct reproduction of the cosmoenergetic channel.
What surprises me in your world? What surprises me most is the attitude of parents towards a child. We don't have that, because with us, every child is considered a separate individual, who is always asked about their desire, because we believe that by building a child's life according to the parents' script, their will and development will be suppressed. They will not grow up to be a respected member of society.
46:39 Skin color of a Tumesoutian.
Maxim: I understand. They are asking, what color is your skin?
Irina: Not quite white, but like Europeans, like you.
46:53 The ruler of Tumesout, Yahweh, and his mission on Earth.
Maxim: Tell me, please, do you know who Yahweh is?
Irina: Yes, of course: he was our ruler, a religious and political leader. I know that he flew to Earth and established contacts with your planet to form a certain egregore, in order to then incarnate on Earth. He spoke about this in our world as well.
Maxim: Why do you think there are discussions among us that Yahweh was a bloodthirsty, bloody god for us Earthlings?
Irina: Because those people who say so are trying to study the history of their civilization, specifically the Jewish people and sacred books, through the prism of your modern laws.
Maxim: Not considering the old laws of that time.
Irina: Not considering the reality in which ancient people lived. That's precisely why, by the standards of that time, the laws that Yahweh transmitted to Moses would be unacceptable for contact, for example, in your time. Because, firstly, you live in a completely different environment than Moses lived in, and you don't face these tasks. In your world, killing every sentient being in war can only be forced, in self-defense, etc. But at that time, when Moses needed to gather his people to create an egregore and for Yahweh's incarnation on your Earth – at that time, Moses and his successor Joshua had to fight the surrounding peoples and military forces, using both political and religious methods. Otherwise, Yahweh's mission would have been impossible.
Moses was a Tumesout contactee. And Yahweh was a citizen of the planet Tumesout. He was born there, and when he came to Earth, he first took Abraham as his contactee, and then his sons.
Maxim: I remind you that today's broadcast topic is "Civilization Tumesout." We are interested in this civilization. This civilization is a member of the Interstellar Union, and it participated in our creation. We were created by 3 civilizations: Burhad, Tumesout, and Selbet. Burhad, or another name for the planet – Pikran. And Tumesout, we found out, is – Furius.
50:52 Archons – rulers of demons.
Maxim: Do you know who the Archons are?
Irina: That's the name for the sixth level of the spiritual world. Archons are the rulers of those low-vibrational spirits called "demons." How do demons differ from angels? In that they do not feel the light within themselves or the need to do good. What is doing good? Acting in the interests of Light and development. Not feeling this need within themselves, they begin to feel a need to destroy themselves and their surroundings. Therefore, they go to the demon level. They also have their own ruler, called an "Archon," these are also spirits. They can, naturally, be incarnated either in plasmoid civilizations, or in humanoid civilizations, or here on Earth.
51:57 Angel Metatron.
Maxim: Do you know who Metatron is?
Irina: An angel – a consultant of the twenty-second spiritual level.
Maxim: Like a consultant of the spiritual world.
Irina: He is an angel.
52:18 Formation of the Arabic language.
Maxim: Since the Arabic language is close to the Tumesoutian dialect, did the Tumesoutians participate in the formation of the Arabic language?
Irina: I wouldn't say it's close, but there are similar words, maybe about 30 percent, of the words that Mohammed adopted from his curator from Tumesout. Contact with this people existed before. The Arabic language itself is very ancient, and it was formed based on other Semitic languages, including Hebrew. Initially, Hebrew was like simplified Tumesoutian, but during its formation, many words changed.
53:17 Help for Belarus on an energy level. Collective meditation.
Maxim: The "Cassiopeia" project does not interfere in politics, so we cannot give advice on what Belarusians should do. Belarus is a very independent country, and I am sure that Belarusians will figure out for themselves what to do.
Do you follow our news? Do you know about the revolutions happening here, the shifts in our power structures?
Irina: Are they asking for his opinion or mine personally?
Maxim: No, his opinion: what does he recommend?
Irina: What should Belarusians do? They need to remember their Spirit, they need to remember the energy of love, all citizens of Belarus who are drawn into this conflict. Remember that you are drawn into it not by yourselves, but that you are being manipulated, that a certain opinion is being created for you for certain purposes. To break out of this illusion, every resident of Belarus needs to sit down, enter their inner Light and ask themselves: "Who allowed our current president to come to power? Who in general allows people to come to power on Earth?" Ask yourselves a simple question: "By whom is power established? By whom is it supported?" If the answer is negative structures, then ask yourselves another question: "By whose will is our president's heart beating now? In whose hands is his life?" And please, I ask each of you, if you believe that your president is acting negatively on your country, I ask you to collectively do a meditation: everyone simultaneously direct the energy of all your love from your spiritual hearts towards him. And if this is done by at least 70% of the country's adult population, it will lead to the fact that no low vibrational entity will remain at the head of your political egregore.
Maxim: You recommend that 70% of Belarusians sit in meditation and direct their light towards Lukashenko?
Irina: The adult population.
Maxim: If he is a demon destroying the country, then, accordingly, he won't withstand these vibrations and will leave his post, right?
Irina: He won't necessarily leave by discarnating, but he simply won't be able to hold on in these high vibrations. The egregore will be structured in such a way that if he is indeed causing harm to the egregore, and the entire people emit high vibrations, then the political egregore will also become high-vibrational. And the president is the key figure of the political egregore. If a low-vibrational spirit stands at the head of any country, it is only because it reflects the average level of its country.
59:05 Main conditions for open contact between Earthlings and aliens.
Maxim: Which civilization will be the first to enter into open contact with us?
Irina: When you are ready, when you fulfill all the conditions, and then it will be open contact.
Maxim: Let's remind everyone what conditions are needed for them to start contacting us more or less openly.
Irina: Three main conditions need to be fulfilled, and the rest will follow progressively. Then others will be built, for example, fairer laws regarding the treatment of people, etc. But the most important conditions are 3, and they all relate to respect for the life of a sentient being. First – the absence of organized military actions across your entire planet for five years. I do not mean individual criminals now. I mean only open organized military clashes for any purpose: whether economic, religious, etc. You need to not commit organized military actions involving the killing of sentient beings for 5 years. The second condition – the abolition of all forms of capital punishment on Earth. What is capital punishment, and how does it differ from killing in self-defense, for example? Killing in self-defense is when there is someone attacking with a weapon, and someone who, defending themselves, kills them. Capital punishment is when a helpless, unarmed criminal is deprived of life. You do not consider that if you deprive a criminal of life, his Spirit will still remain alive, and not having received the opportunity for his change, he will still later incarnate in your same world that did not accept him, i.e., the Spirit of this criminal. Therefore, the abolition of all capital punishments is necessary, and the replacement for terrible crimes against life and health with long terms of imprisonment with physical labor, so that the criminal can, by the end of his incarnation, realize what he has done and leave it, having raised his vibrations. The third condition is the abolition of all laws that allow women to kill their unborn children in the womb. I am not talking now about killing children due to medical contraindications, but only due to personal desire, if everything is in order with health.
Maxim: In principle, if we comply with the 3 basic conditions, then contact will take place. And who will be the first to come into contact with us?
Irina: We have those who are on the bases. If you are already ready, then a monitoring of your noosphere will be conducted: how ready your consciousness is, how much you accept the ideas of alien life. There is another condition, for example, ceasing the creation of a negative image of aliens in your mass media. If everything is in order, then those who are on the bases will come – these are representatives of Burhad, Tumesout, Esler, Tikhta. Whoever is on the bases, including on the Moon. In Crimea, you have one of our bases.
Maxim: Thank you all for the broadcast, thank you for the questions.
Irina: Greetings to everyone from our interstellar friends: LiShioni and MidgasKaus. They are sending you all the light of their love.
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Maxim Rusan – head of the Center for Spiritual Development "Cassiopeia";
Klyaer Resuf – cosmoenergeticist, representative of the planet Tumesout.

