“I am Saint-Germain. I lived among you for 152 years”: The full confession of an alien researcher of human civilization. A thought experiment based on three contacts (2020-2026)
Who, where, and when conducted the sessions
Main session (April 2026, published June 9, 2026):
Who: Irina Podzorova — contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations; Valery Merkulov — psychologist, coach, master of attunement with the Higher Self.
Where: YouTube channel “CASSIOPEIA — Irina Podzorova.”
When: The premiere of the broadcast took place on June 9, 2026. The recording was made on April 1, 2026 (mention of April Fool's Day in the text).
Previous sessions (2020s):
Part 1 (February 21, 2020): Irina Podzorova, Maxim Rusan, Vladimir Goldstein. Also participating are Raom Tiyan (Burhad), MidgasKaus (Esler), Saint-Germain, and Lynn-Kruos (Dysaru).
Part 2 – February 21, 2020, continuation of the first conversation.
Session of another contactee (2026):
Who: Vladimir (host), Marina Makeeva (medium-contact). Channel “University of Consciousness (UniverOS) ALCYONE.”
Where: publication on the Omdaru Literature blog.
When: March 2026 (blog publication date – March 23, 2026).
Thematic session about Marie Antoinette:
Same channel and same participants. The session is dedicated to the role of Saint-Germain in the fate of the French queen. Publication – March 23, 2026.
First-person retelling of the alien guest (main session, June 9, 2026)
I am the one you call Count Saint-Germain. I was born in 1537 according to your calendar. I am now 489 years old. My spiritual level is twenty-fourth.
I am a specialist in pedagogy, sociology, and political science. My task is to study earthly egregors, social laws, political mechanisms, and behavioral genetics. I did not come to Earth by chance. It was a multi-level scientific mission. Not just a visit – a deep immersion into earthly society.
My first incarnation on Earth was in the body of Joseph the Betrothed. Before that – as King Solomon. And then, already as Saint-Germain, I did not come to be born, but specifically to live among you, preserving my body from the planet Dysaru. Between the incarnation of Joseph and the life in the Count’s body, there were no other lives – I raised my vibrations, remaining in the same body.
I first appeared on Earth at about 34 years of age. At first, I lived at our base in the Carpathians – in a cave, underground, where an artificial tunnel is laid. The base exists to this day. Two months ago, I flew there again – to remember old times.
Then I decided to go out among people. This was my personal experiment: could I play the role of an Earthling so that no one would suspect? My friends, relatives, and even my superiors – specialists in contacts with Earthlings – tried to dissuade me. They said I would be exposed, killed, executed as a heretic. Religious wars, persecution, the death penalty for violating the traditional way of life – all of that existed. But I accepted the risk. I wanted to study you from the inside. Observing through a computer screen does not convey the aura of a physical body.
I created a legend for myself, obtained documents made at our base from the same materials as earthly papers of that time. I wore clothes sewn for me on Dysaru – they were no different from earthly ones in fabric or quality. I had money, coins, gold, silver, precious stones – all from the repositories of the Interstellar Union. I sold them as family heirlooms. I bought castles from bankrupt nobles, hired servants, and even kept my own knights with swords.
I changed cities and countries. In total, I learned 16 earthly languages – using computer modeling of the brain's neural network. I was in Russia, India, Persia at the court of Nadir Shah. I traveled like an ordinary person: on horses, on ships, with caravans. With horses, I enter into contact through the soul, so they always obeyed me.
I lived among you for 152 years. I could live 5, 6, sometimes 15 years in one city. I moved like this: at night I would go into the forest, connect via a small remote control with a bio-robot waiting for me at a predetermined place. The bio-robot would arrive in a flying disc – a small atmospheric shuttle craft. I would board, fly to the base, then on a spaceship – to Dysaru. I would rest for a few days, submit reports, and return to a new city.
People started to notice that I hardly aged. I have no wrinkles, no gray hair. My body is genetically modified: my parents lived on Burhad, I was born on Dysaru. Our lifespan is different.
I keep diaries. I write in a special language of Dysaru. I record everything. I left no manuscripts on Earth – I took everything with me for reports to the Interstellar Union. Those manuscripts attributed to me, for example, ‘The Most Holy Trinosophia’, are not mine.
I am a vegetarian, but to avoid standing out, I ate meat and drank wine. I took special enzymes to avoid getting sick.
I had earthly wives. Children were born. I left them bags of jewels so they would lack nothing.
I healed people. With decoctions, incantations. And in serious cases – plague, cholera – I dissolved our medical preparations in water. They suit the earthly organism because we are genetically close. I would give this water as ‘blessed’. The infection would go away – and this was considered a miracle. At night, I would go out into the astral realm and consult with the medical service on Dysaru.
I communicated with the clergy cautiously. Cardinals and bishops invited me, and I treated them too. But when they asked about Christ or God, I could not lie. I spoke about past lives, about reincarnation. For them, it was heresy. I didn’t argue – arguing was dangerous. I could have been burned at the stake or exiled.
No one ever arrested me. Stories about my arrest in England in 1745 are false. I didn’t leave corpses or mannequins. I simply disappeared and appeared elsewhere.
In 1760, I was part of a delegation in The Hague. King Louis XV did not send me to conclude a separate peace, but for negotiations. I wanted only one thing: for Earth to join the Interstellar Union. I understood that wars are your lesson, but I tried to soften the process. I developed an entire concept: how to start peace negotiations, how they should proceed, who should monitor the implementation of agreements.
I was in Russia later, in 1780-89. I facilitated Catherine II’s ascension to the throne but did not interfere in the choice – that is the business of your egregors. I studied corruption, manipulation, hypocrisy, and the secrecy of power. I developed instructions for politicians on combating elite interests.
I entered secret societies – Masons, Rosicrucians – as a researcher. I wanted to understand how the political system of Earth is structured, who the real ruler is, how they are connected. My conclusion: your elite is connected primarily by finances, not mysticism. You have a financial-oligarchic structure.
The Mirror of Saint-Germain is not a magical artifact. I did not have a television. All I had was a remote control for communicating with the bio-robot and a medical kit.
My last appearance in the 19th century is dated 1822, 38 years after my ‘official death’, which someone there announced. But I also came in the 20th century. I spoke with Stalin for two whole hours. I appeared on the outskirts of Delhi, walked the streets, bought things.
Do I come now? I smile. Even if I do come, you will never know it’s me. I would be under different documents. Now, people with unusual appearances are not surprising. Any alien can walk around with blue hair, for all that.
I love you, Earthlings. My dear ones, I was truly happy to live among you. I miss life next to you. I would like to live among you again – if the Council of the Interstellar Union allows it. I would hug many of you. You really are very cool guys.
My main wish for you: develop your creative potential. The Heavenly Father instilled it in you. It is hindered by your internal contradictions – the desire for power, manipulation, herd mentality.
My height is slightly above 170 cm, average build, beard gray, small, pointed. But appearance can be changed. If I remove the beard, I will just look young. I keep the beard as a sign of status – a sign that I have lived many years. For my wives, it's an enhancement of image: they live with a wise person.
Detailed retelling of two previous Saint-Germain sessions (2020)
Part 1. Meeting with a representative from planet Disaru (February 21, 2020, published December 26, 2022)
I, Saint-Germain, talk about myself, Jesus, the nature of good and evil, the future, and karma.
I am at the 24th level of the Spiritual World. I live on the planet Dysaru, in the city of Tussin. I was born there when it was 1537 AD on your Earth.
Our cities resemble earthly ones, but our transport does not use internal combustion engines. It is based on movement along the planet's magnetic lines. We have highly developed individual flying apparatuses – you would call them hang gliders with controls. They replace your small vehicles like mopeds.
We address God as ‘You’ [informal, singular]. We are brothers. Any thought of mine is an appeal to Him. One simply needs to always be aware of oneself in His Light, and then no thought that contradicts His laws can long hold on in one’s mental field.
I consider my most significant incarnation on Earth to be when I was entrusted with the upbringing of Jesus Christ. I was incarnated as his stepfather Joseph. I worked towards this over many incarnations. I was responsible for his upbringing and adaptation to earthly conditions. His genetic father was from the planet Burhad.
In early childhood, when magi from the territory of modern-day Persia came, they brought gifts to Jesus and told us that the boy was being hunted by the local king. I had to take Mary and the boy and flee to Egypt. The gold brought by the magi came in very handy there. I could not have earned that much working as a carpenter.
When we returned to Nazareth, I began teaching the boy earthly customs. From early childhood, he already had contact with his father on Burhad. He was taken for contact many times. He traveled all over Earth – to India, Tibet, the territory of Russia, and all continents. But not with caravans, on his father’s ship and his assistants’ ships.
Mary and I were always amazed by his peculiarity: when teachers began to tell him this or that doctrine, he would finish the sentence for them – and finish it in such a way that they immediately understood: before them is a very high Spirit. At 12 years old, he remained in the temple with teachers three times his age, and they listened to him as a mentor.
Choice is always present. What had to happen, happened. When your theologians say that this was permitted at the first Council of the Trinity even before the creation of the world, they are right in that the outcome of all the actions of incarnate and non-incarnate intelligent Spirits was known even before the creation of the world.
I did not see in Jesus a hint of guilt for the actions of Yahweh. He tirelessly denounced the distortions of the Torah, risking his life. He did not break a single one of the over 600 commandments of the Torah. For him, the law was not a prohibitive means, the violation of which is followed by punishment, but a saving means of partaking in God's grace.
Muhammad supports the Islamic egregor, as Shakyamuni supports the Buddhist one. They are at levels 22 to 24. Muhammad is at level 23. They consult with each other on creating and maintaining their religious egregor and protecting it from being tapped into by dark destructive Spirits.
Destructiveness, dressed in beautiful clothes, can look even more attractive than Light. For an earthly person, it is more natural to strive for expansion, which destructive Spirits help with, than for the path of love. To follow the path of love, one needs to engage the spiritual part of the mind and overcome the resistance of the instinctive part.
Dark destructive Spirits can take the form of light Angels and even Jesus Christ, but their vibrations will be low. They cannot fake vibrations – to do so, they would have to rise to them.
The last time I incarnated as an Earthling was as Joseph the Betrothed.
I knew Wolf Messing. His ability to foresee is because he lived several lives in your future. A Spirit can be sent into incarnation backward along the time scale. The future is not predetermined for you now, but in the Spiritual world it is known, because there is no time there. When you talk about a time machine – it can be done in the Spiritual world.
When Messing and Nostradamus began to predict the future not based on memories, but based on logical reasoning – that’s when mistakes happened.
You can change the future only because you don’t know about it. But all the results of your choices are known to the intelligence that created everything. It is omniscient. Knowledge does not mean predestination. It's like a movie you've watched 10 times: you know all the actions of the characters, but that doesn't mean you predetermined them.
Before incarnation, we are shown the main variants of life – those we should focus on to develop. In the Spiritual world, it seems simple to us. But it is not simple at all when you find yourself in a physical body with blocked memory. Memory is blocked precisely so that a person can go through this path, remembering nothing – then they will gain the necessary experience of solving problems and correcting mistakes.
What does a ‘negative’ figure mean? An unequivocally negative figure as a source of evil does not exist. Evil does not exist in the world – only choice exists. Lucifer, who voluntarily left God, still remained His son. His existence is sustained by God's energy. If God wished, He would instantly cease his existence.
There are two goals for the existence of evil. The first is to show that God gave absolute freedom of choice. Any coercion would not evoke sincere love, and therefore high vibrations. The second is to show good children that suffering happens when they choose evil. Without experiencing the experience of evil, it is impossible to appreciate the experience of good.
The universe exists cyclically. It either unfolds in space – first in the subtle-material world, then in the dense-material world – and then folds back. In the Bible, this is described by the words ‘the sky will roll up like a scroll’. The period of unfolding and folding is about 125 billion Earth years. The unmanifest cycle cannot be measured in time periods, because there is no time there.
Not confession and repentance, but what precedes them – ‘change of mind’ – can annul karma. The necessity for karma disappears for one who has realized the reason for its formation. The purpose of karma is not punishment, but a lesson. If the Spirit, without the lesson, has already understood why it made this choice, the necessity for karma disappears.
The Spirit is an autonomous consciousness within the consciousness of God. It cannot be destroyed – just as God himself cannot be destroyed. If a Spirit has degraded greatly, it has a chance to rise again later – through incarnation.
The spiritual meaning of tasting the fruit of good and evil is that the evil act of Adam and Eve was not that they ate the fruit, but that before that, they stopped trusting their creators – the Gods. First, they sinned within themselves, in their hearts. Eating the fruit was merely a consequence in the material world.
Evil as a substance separate from good does not exist. There is no ‘evil energy’ – there is good energy directed towards an evil choice.
Physical sex is a reflection of love at the physical level of two Souls. One can come to God through sex, if one sees in it a divine action – the fusion of matter and Spirit.
What is happening now with your planet – climate change, volcanic eruptions, floods, hurricanes – is largely happening due to the overly intensive extraction of liquid hydrocarbons and gases from the cavities of the Earth's crust. You are changing the internal structure of the planet. Because of this, it begins to oscillate on its axis, unevenly receives the Sun's heat, the structure of the earth's crust is disrupted, magma rises higher, volcanoes are activated. Plus the greenhouse effect. You burn fuel, carbon dioxide is formed, but instead of planting trees, you cut them down.
What resources? We have water on our planet; we don't use hydrocarbons. On almost all of our planets, there are no such engines. It is not economical, it disrupts the ecological balance, and it is very costly.
Part 2. Meeting with a representative from planet Dysaru (continued)
About extraterrestrial civilizations and the fear of them
Your question contains two big problems of your civilization.
The first problem is the release of negative energies of fear and hatred towards everything foreign, unlike Earthlings. This is what you call xenophobia.
The second problem is the maintenance of this unhealthy phenomenon in your environment by your own government structures. And these two phenomena are directly connected.
Your governmental and quasi-governmental structures deliberately stoke fear of extraterrestrial, alien forms of life. They instill xenophobic sentiments. It could be said that this is a new form of nationalism – only now interplanetary. Everything alien is hostile. This comes from distortions of the instinct for self-preservation.
Government structures take this step to absolve themselves of responsibility for what is happening on the planet. But they do not fully realize that the spread of such ideas allows plasmoid parasitic civilizations to take on the appearance of humanoids, including those from the Interstellar Union. They come to people in their astral bodies and, taking advantage of the fear and anger sown in hearts, they tap into the aura and use people's energy for their own needs.
About plasmoids as ‘sanitizers’ of the noosphere
But the fact that these parasitic plasmoids use people's energy does not mean they don't have other energy. They can perfectly feed from other natural sources of the worlds in which they are incarnated. Human energy is simply more pleasant for them.
I want to emphasize that this, too, is not accidental. Despite such a negative sequence of events in your civilization, they did not arise by chance. The negative energy released from people's auras goes into your noosphere – into your egregors. And those parasitic plasmoids that absorb it, at least partially, prevent this negativity from spreading throughout the noosphere. It can be said that, in a certain sense, they influence it as sanitizers.
But this is all – only as long as a person has not become conscious.
To free yourself from parasitic plasmoids, you need, firstly, to restructure your thinking so as not to be afraid of extraterrestrial life forms, including those images that come to you. The more benevolent and with more love you treat them, the faster they will detach from the energy field of these people. Because the energy of love, acceptance, and trust is not interesting to them. They live on different vibrations.
About Hitler, the Ahnenerbe, and the ‘Aryan’ idea
Now, about who stood behind Hitler.
Starting the war was not his idea. He was used by the older brothers of the esoteric society he belonged to. One of the brothers was named Karl, he was a professor at an institute and traveled, among other places, to India, to Japan. There he received initiations into secret monastic practices, including practices of communicating with extraterrestrial civilizations. By the word ‘extraterrestrial civilizations’, I also mean extraterrestrial plasmoids. That is, he was a contactee of plasmoids.
There was another Karl – Karl Wiligut. He was also with Hitler. He was a contactee of humanoid civilizations, mainly Tashig and one of the colonies of Burhad in the Pleiades cluster, which was not part of the Interstellar Union.
That Tashigan specialist who contacted Karl – Hitler's associate – criminally passed on to him schematics for building a ‘flying saucer’. He passed on everything to him, including information on the planetary engine. But the Germans could not replicate the planetary engine, because your Earth does not yet have the technologies to create, for example, the necessary alloy or the electronic components needed for that engine. But the schematics were passed on.
Adolf Hitler, a young man mystically inclined, a very good medium, was used by his older comrades in esotericism and occultism who wanted to have power over the world. They took advantage of Hitler's influence over the crowd. Because he knew how to speak beautifully, expound his ideas, and at the same time he possessed high suggestibility – like, probably, almost any medium. And they inspired him with the idea that it was necessary to restore the ethnicity of the gods.
Herman Wirth, who wrote the book ‘The Origin of Man’, was the ideologist of the Ahnenerbe known to you. In his book, he postulated that the German nation – the white nation – descended from gods. But here he was telling the truth. He called the Burhadians gods. Most likely, he only considered the Burhadians, as you have the most of their genes. He described it as: ‘White skin, fair hair, and blue eyes – these are the gods.’
These are precisely those Aryans they were talking about. But he was mistaken in that he called people with dark skin and dark hair descendants of other ‘gods’ – evil gods who oppose white civilization. And he presented all this in his book as the true history of Germany.
They inspired Hitler that he was the chosen one of the gods and needed to restore white supremacy. Then he began to convince his entire people of this and created the structure that allowed him to start a war on many fronts.
What really surprised me was his alliance with the Japanese government. He cleverly masked his disgust for them as subhuman (in the sense that they did not ‘belong to the Aryan race’), but said that they could become part of this race spiritually, by undergoing necessary rituals. They obeyed him and entered the war on his side.
The Ahnenerbe existed for a very long time. It was not just a special service; it was institutes in various fields of science where research was conducted in genetics, biology, medicine, including with the involvement of contactees. So much material accumulated in the Ahnenerbe archives that after the war, over 45 railroad cars of archives were taken to the Soviet Union alone.
About ‘The Last Supper’ and the number 13
Leonardo da Vinci’s painting ‘The Last Supper’ depicts 12 disciples of Christ and himself – the thirteenth. There were no women there. That is precisely why the number 13 acquired such a sinister meaning in your later interpretations. Because everyone understands and knows how that Last Supper ended – with the arrest of Jesus.
About contracts for future incarnations
What does it mean to ‘sign a contract with the Spirit’? Is it possible to agree in this incarnation about the next incarnation? No. Not until you arrive in the Spiritual world. Everything here is changeable. You can agree, but you can change that agreement at any moment.
About underground civilizations
Does an underground civilization exist on the physical plane on Earth? No, besides you. Earth is dense, but for subtle-material beings, it is like air.
Where do versions about underground civilizations come from? From the same place as the version about the flat Earth – from the perception of plasmoids. For them, solid rocks, like granite, are imperceptible. They live in a different vibration. Therefore, they say ‘hollow Earth’, ‘we live on the inside’, and so on. But in their perception, this is also true. Conversely, the fact that the Earth is dense and there is granite is a lie for them, because they don't feel it that way.
About the ‘All-Seeing Eye’ symbol
The ‘All-Seeing Eye’ symbol is the ‘Eye of Horus’, which was a symbol in ancient Egypt. It was a symbol of the ‘eye’ in every person's soul through which God looks. That is, God is in the heart of each of us.
Later, this symbol was reflected in your teaching about the ‘Third Eye’ – about a certain energy structure that can observe the Spiritual world. And that is the inclusion of a special type of perception. And the drawing of the ‘Eye of Horus’ in the form of the ‘All-Seeing Eye’ remained. It was the eye of God.
But the eye is, of course, an anthropomorphic symbol. When you read or see a description of the drawing of the ‘Eye of God’ or ‘Hand of God’, you need to understand that God does not have material eyes and hands. I mean God the Father, who gave birth to us all. He is Spirit. But this is all for understanding in images that are familiar specifically to dense-material civilizations, to people.
About the Violet Flame and practices with it
The Violet Flame is a system developed by me and my students. To describe this energy, I used images understandable to esotericists. I called it ‘flame’. It is an image of fire, as in Agni Yoga. Fire and the fiery world are a symbol of divine energies. As in Theosophy, and as in the Bible. You remember that God is called ‘fire’ there, so nothing new.
Why violet? Because here I used the color symbolism of your chakras, or energy centers. Violet color – as the highest frequency perceived by the human eye in the spectrum – symbolizes the highest frequency energy accessible to human perception. This is the 7th energy center, which is responsible for communication with God.
The Violet Flame is that divine energy that activates the 7th energy center. Simply put, it is the moment of enlightenment.
What is enlightenment? It is the realization of oneself not just as a part of God, but as a part of the Light. One who has realized is no longer capable of creating any evil, any evil deeds. Because they would be unnatural for him. Not because God forbade him to do them, but because the person themselves would not wish it – just as God does not wish it himself. Although, of course, no one forbade God.
The simplest practice for working with the Violet Flame
To realize oneself in the Light of God, i.e., to activate one's violet flame (everyone has it – it is the flame of the 7th energy center, of divine energy), it is necessary to reflect – what you call meditate – on the question ‘Who am I?’.
Here is the simplest meditation.
Sit in solitude and silence with closed eyes, so that external objects do not distract. Start asking yourself: ‘Who am I?’ Begin to concentrate your attention on what you are not.
First ask yourself: ‘Am I a hand? Am I a leg? Am I a stomach?’ Name the body parts. Then you will come to an understanding that this is not you, that this is your instrument.
Then ask yourself: ‘Where am I then?’ And your consciousness will automatically concentrate on the fact that you are in the head, in the head area.
Then ask: ‘So, am I a head?’ Move it on the physical level and ask: ‘Is it me moving now, or am I moving my head?’
Ask yourself such simple questions until you realize that you are not a head, that you are not a physical body at all.
Then start asking yourself: ‘What am I then? Am I a thought? What kind of thought am I? The thought I think – is that me?’
And then you will understand that you are not a thought either. That you are the core from which the thought emanates. Focus on this core. Then all thoughts will go away. And, perhaps, there will be an experience of Light.
This is the simplest practice.
Communication with the Higher Self is one of the forms. For those who have been doing this for some time and feel their Higher Self, independent communication with it is suitable. And the practice I have described is for those who do not yet know what it is.
How to distinguish true contact from false – for those who perceive information from a contactee
If a person perceives information in printed form or in the form of images – that is, a direct flow of information – they must compare it with what is already known to them on this topic, firstly, from representatives of the Interstellar Union, and secondly – which is most important – with what becomes known during independent meditations on their inner Light.
One can, right at the moment of viewing the information, enter into contact with one’s Higher Self and ask the question. If you do such exercises as I have described, for about 10 minutes each day for 20-30 days, then such direct communication with the Higher Self will become possible.
If you have encountered information that confused you, and you thought that it does not come from the higher teachers, you need to directly ask the question: ‘Is this so?’
It is possible that the contactees truly communicate with higher teachers, but their thought is expressed in a form familiar specifically to them. Also, it very often happens that a contactee who truly contacts the higher hierarchies adds their own opinion to the contact information. And it all gets mixed up. The most dangerous thing for a contactee is that they might think their opinion also comes from them. Sincerely think so. Especially if they haven’t yet learned to distinguish by vibrations whose thought came. And that comes with experience.
In other words: if what you read causes a surge of inner Light within you – that is the truth. For you.
If you read something that causes protest and negative emotions in the form of ‘doing negativity to someone’ – if you see an explicit call to some kind of negativity or condemnation of someone, some teachings – it is negative energy.
Criticism is permissible, but without condemning the person. Even if an untrue teaching is being discussed, from the point of view of Light it must be emphasized that ‘for those people who believe this, it works, and at their level it is correct’. The complete absence of condemnation. Because Light does not condemn – it illuminates.
You should always look for the primary source. A retelling of the Bible will not always be authentic to the Bible itself.
How to distinguish true contact from false – for the contactee themselves
If a contactee does not yet know how to distinguish by vibrations who came to them, they can only ask questions on general human topics, on moral topics, and look at the content of the answers.
The principle is the same: if there is a surge of Light, goodness, and love within you – that is the true answer. If the opposite feelings appear – it is a departure from the truth.
About patronage over territories and planets
Before incarnating as Joseph, I had several more incarnations on Earth, including before your war, where I built cities, managed your countries, and was a priest. I communicated with many plasmoid worlds, and therefore it is said that I have power or patronage over certain territories.
Despite the fact that I have lived on Dysaru for many centuries by your time, I have not forgotten my students in the plasmoid worlds either, because I still come to them in Spirit. But it cannot be said that I am currently ruling over some territory.
Now I live on another planet. I often visit Jesus Christ on Burhad, we communicate. My mission now extends much further than Earth. I also contact 15 other planets, including those that are just preparing to be admitted to the Interstellar Union.
About twin flames and soul mates
All spirits are generated by God – the one. That is both our mother and father Soul.
Twin souls are spirits that have walked very close to each other for a long time. They were acquainted in the Spiritual world and incarnated together many times. They even feel like a single whole. But it can be not only two, but also three, or four – that is, a group. They do not merge with each other, they simply feel so native to each other that they already know each other's soul's movement.
Explanation of the expression ‘creating Eve from Adam’s rib’
In Hebrew, a term is used that means ‘side’, ‘flank’. And ‘rib’ is a later translation into Russian. This suggests that first a male person was created through genetic experiments. And the female was created later, and the genetic material of the newly created person was used in her. That is, when creating the woman, Adam’s own genes were used.
About Lilith and Eve
Not two were created first. Initially, there were 18 people. They appeared almost simultaneously. Which of them was named Lilith, which Eve – all these names appeared later. Originally they were completely different.
Why do we call them Lilith and Eve? Because it was already told to Moses in his language – in Hebrew. And they called them something completely different – in Tumesout.
About the incarnation of a Spirit in a specific people
Incarnations in each people are not accidental. The Spirit is called upon to undergo certain lessons precisely in this people, precisely with this religion, or even with a specific family living in this people.
End of session
After the official part ended, Irina added that we were simultaneously communicating with Saint-Germain, Joseph (Mary's husband), and Solomon. From his attunement, she first got a severe headache, then everything adjusted.
Brief retelling of the Saint-Germain session from another contactee (Marina Makeeva, channel ‘University of Consciousness ALCYONE’, March 2026)
Source: Omdaru Literature blog, March 23, 2026
This session has a different nature: it was conducted not by Irina Podzorova, but by another medium – Marina Makeeva. The host is Vladimir. Format: channeling with a hierarchy of entities.
Key content of the session:
Saint-Germain is presented in this session as an alien from the planet Marchen (this is the planet's own name for itself, while Dysaru is in the language of Daaraal; all names are given to contactee Irina Podzorova in the language of her first curator).
Particular attention is paid to the fate of Marie Antoinette, who, according to the spirit, was not a victim but a conscious agent of change, coming from level 23 and rising to level 24. She refused salvation (she was offered to fly away on an alien ship) because she could not abandon her husband, children, and country.
According to this session, Saint-Germain stood in the crowd during the execution and supported her telepathically, trying to shut off her pain neurons.
The role of Saint-Germain in the fate of Marie Antoinette (based on the same session)
Source: Omdaru Literature blog, March 23, 2026, separate publication.
This material is a detailed transcript and analysis of the session dedicated to Marie Antoinette. I present the main points in a first-person retelling from the queen's spirit:
I was called Marie Antoinette. But that is just one of my incarnations. I came into that life from the 23rd level. The task: to initiate the breaking of the rotten foundations of feudalism and the paradigm shift of society. I was meant to be a catalyst for change.
*Saint-Germain appeared in my life when I was 15-16 years old. He was there. Intelligent, calm, strangely informed about everything. He told me about life on other planets. That we are not alone. He took me with him on flights. The first time – I was 16. We flew around Earth. I looked down at Vienna from above and felt how far I had already flown – both literally and figuratively.*
The second time, he took me to his planet, Marchen. I spoke there with women – about fashion, about freedom, about their way of life. They lived differently. After that visit, I sharply intensified my initiatives: new fashions, abandoning corsets, men's suits. Not because I was playing – because I was breathing.
Shortly before the execution, three came – Saint-Germain and two others from Marchen. They said: we can take you away. I refused. Not because I didn't believe them. Because I could not abandon Louis, my children, my country. I was the Queen. That is not a title – it is an obligation.
On the scaffold, I accidentally stepped on the executioner's foot and apologized. Saint-Germain stood in the crowd. I felt him. He transmitted calm. He helped with the pain. There was pain – but he was there.
After death – lightness, weightlessness. I thought it was salvation. Then I realized that I was simply no longer in a body. I saw the jubilant crowd. Then the light came. Bright, not blinding. Light in which everything becomes understandable.
I prayed for my murderers. For Robespierre. For Marat. Not out of duty – out of understanding that hatred would have remained within me. I left without hatred.
Spiritual-psychological, religious studies, cultural, historiosophical essay-research
(Based on the premise that the contacts are real – as a thought experiment)
Introduction: Three contacts, one spirit
We have three sources claiming to transmit information from the spirit of Count Saint-Germain. Two of them (Irina Podzorova, 2020–2026) are consistent with each other: planet Dysaru, age 489 years, mission on Earth, upbringing of Jesus, 24th level. The third source (Marina Makeeva, 2026) differs in the planet’s name (Marchen – the planet's own name for itself – instead of Dysaru), but agrees on the main point: Saint-Germain is an alien researcher who lived among people, helping key historical figures.
For the thought experiment, we accept the premise that the information from the spirit in all three contacts reflects the real subjective consciousness of the historical person (or extraterrestrial researcher). This allows us to ask: what would we learn about human history, culture, psychology, and metaphysics if these contacts were genuine?
Below, I analyze the key statements of the spirit across all three contacts, commenting on each from spiritual-psychological, religious studies, cultural, and historiosophical perspectives.
Part 1. What we learned from the spirit that is not in historical documents
1. About Saint-Germain’s lifespan and age
Claim: “I was born in 1537. I am 489 years old. I lived on Earth for 152 years.”
What is in the documents: Saint-Germain first appears in historical sources in the 1740s. His age is estimated between 40 and 60. No one knows his origins. Legends attribute immortality to him, but there is no documentary evidence.
New knowledge: For the first time, an exact date of birth is given and the duration of his stay on Earth is stated. This allows recalculating the chronology of his appearances and, in a thought experiment, checking for coincidence with historical events.
2. About the Carpathian base
Claim: “Our base is located in the Carpathians, in a cave with an artificial tunnel. It exists to this day.”
What is in the documents: The Carpathian region is known for legends of underground passages and secret hideouts. There is no archaeological evidence of an alien base.
New knowledge: If this were true, we would have the first physical evidence of the presence of an extraterrestrial civilization on Earth – a location that could be verified.
3. About the upbringing of Jesus Christ
Claim: “I was Joseph the Betrothed. I was responsible for Jesus’ upbringing. His genetic father was from the planet Burhad. Jesus flew on an alien spaceship from childhood and visited all continents.”
What is in the documents: The Gospels speak of Joseph as a carpenter, Mary's husband. Little is known about his role in Jesus’ upbringing. Tibetan and Indian traditions claim Jesus traveled to the East (apocryphal ‘Infancy Gospel’, ‘Tibetan Gospel’). The official church does not recognize these sources.
New knowledge: This radically changes Christian Christology: Jesus is not just the ‘Son of God’ in a metaphorical sense, but literally the son of an alien father. His travels were not by caravan, but by spaceship. His knowledge was not divine revelation, but the result of direct acquaintance with other worlds.
4. About Wolf Messing and the nature of predictions
Claim: “Messing lived several lives in your future. He remembered the future as the past. When he started to predict based on logic, not memories – he made mistakes.”
What is in the documents: Messing indeed possessed a phenomenal ability to foresee (predicted the end of the war, Stalin's death). His biographers could not explain this phenomenon.
New knowledge: This is the first esoteric theory explaining the mechanism of foresight not as ‘reading the future’ but as ‘remembering the past from a future life’. It also explains why predictions are often erroneous – the person stops remembering and starts guessing.
5. About Lucifer and the nature of evil
Claim: “Evil does not exist – only choice exists. Evil energy is good energy directed towards an evil choice. Lucifer remains a son of God. If God wished, He would instantly cease his existence.”
What is in the documents: In mainstream Christianity, Lucifer is a fallen angel, the source of evil, an opponent of God. In Kabbalah and Gnosticism, there are more complex concepts, but they are not dominant.
New knowledge: This is a radical theodicy (justification of God in the face of evil). If evil is not a separate substance, but only a distorted direction of good, then God is not responsible for creating an ‘evil’ entity. Lucifer is not an enemy, but a lost son who still feeds on the Father's energy.
6. About the cyclical nature of the Universe and time
Claim: “The universe exists cyclically – it unfolds and folds. The period is about 125 billion years. There is no time in the Spiritual world. Knowledge of the future does not mean predestination.”
What is in the documents: Modern cosmology recognizes the Big Bang and possible Big Crunch or heat death of the Universe. Cyclical models (oscillating universe) have proponents but are unproven.
New knowledge: This coincides with some modern physical hypotheses but adds a metaphysical layer: time exists only in the material world; in the Spiritual world, there is an eternal ‘now’. God knows the future but does not predetermine it – like a viewer who has watched a movie many times.
7. About climate change
Claim: “The climate is changing due to hydrocarbon extraction. You are changing the internal structure of the Earth – it oscillates on its axis, magma rises, volcanoes are activated.”
What is in the documents: The scientific consensus links climate change to greenhouse gases. The link between hydrocarbon extraction and plate tectonics is not widely accepted.
New knowledge: This is an alternative hypothesis suggesting that anthropogenic impact on the planet is deeper than thought: we are not only changing the atmosphere, but also the rotation and internal structure of the Earth.
8. About the purpose of humanity’s existence
Claim: “I want Earthlings to become the best in the Interstellar Union. Earth is increasingly lowering its vibrations and moving away from its destiny to be a light and example for other planets.”
What is in the documents: Mainstream science and history have no concept of ‘vibrations’ or a planet’s ‘destiny’.
New knowledge: This introduces a teleological principle into cosmology: every planet has a spiritual task. Earth is not coping with this task, and therefore the Interstellar Union limits contacts.
9. About Marie Antoinette (from the third contact)
Claim: “She came from the 23rd level to initiate the breaking of feudalism. She refused salvation. She flew to Marchen and saw free women. Saint-Germain stood in the crowd at the execution and turned off her pain.”
What is in the documents: Historical documents record the execution, Antoinette’s courage, her last letter with forgiveness. Nothing about alien flights or Saint-Germain in the crowd.
New knowledge: This transforms Antoinette from a victim into a conscious agent of change. Her death is not a defeat, but a fulfilled mission. Her contribution to women's emancipation (abandoning corsets, men's suits) gains an extraterrestrial origin.
10. About Robespierre (from the third contact)
Claim: “Robespierre came out at one of the lowest levels. He is now incarnated in a male body and is a political figure with influence.”
What is in the documents: Historical documents record Robespierre's death in 1794. No data on his reincarnation.
New knowledge: This statement is fundamentally unverifiable (the person is not named), but it serves an important political function: it turns historiosophy into a tool for vigilance in the present.
Part 2. Commentary on each statement of the spirit
1. “I am at the 24th level of the Spiritual world”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: The scale of levels (from 1 to 24 and above) is a common esoteric tool. The 24th level is the level of the Mahatmas, Masters of Wisdom, Arhats. If Saint-Germain is indeed at this level, his words hold the highest authority in the esoteric hierarchy. However, from a psychological perspective, self-assessment of one’s own level is always a risky statement: a truly high spirit, as a rule, does not emphasize their status.
Religious studies commentary: Mainstream Christianity has no such scale (there are degrees of holiness, but not numbered levels). Buddhism has ‘stages of enlightenment’ (Sotapanna, Sakadagami, Anagami, Arhat). The 24th level may be an esoteric adaptation of this idea. In Theosophy and Agni Yoga, levels correspond to planes of existence (physical, astral, mental, buddhic, atmic, etc.).
Cultural commentary: The numerical scale of levels is an attempt at verification in a culture that demands ‘precise data’. Unlike medieval mysticism (which used symbols and allegories), modern esotericism strives for digital measurability. This reflects a general trend of post-Enlightenment consciousness: even spirituality must look ‘scientific’.
Historiosophical commentary: If historical figures are ranked by levels, then history ceases to be a clash of social forces or ideas. It becomes a field for the evolution of souls, where each character is a student of a certain ‘grade’. This explains why some people do good and others evil: not from free will, but from their degree of development.
2. “I was Joseph the Betrothed and King Solomon”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: Joseph is a figure of ‘holy silence’ (the Gospels record no spoken words from him). Solomon is a sage, but also a pagan who built temples to idols. The union of these two incarnations in one spirit creates the archetype of the ‘wise educator’ who passed through the experience of pagan wisdom and Christian humility.
Religious studies commentary: For Christianity, the claim that Joseph was King Solomon in a past life is heresy. Reincarnation is not recognized by mainstream Christianity (although Origen and other early fathers allowed metempsychosis). For esoteric Christianity (Gnosticism, Theosophy), it is acceptable.
Cultural commentary: Joseph and Solomon are two archetypal figures of Western culture: the wise ruler and the righteous carpenter. Their union in one soul symbolizes the synthesis of power and humility, knowledge and faith. This is an excellent literary image, regardless of its historical accuracy.
Historiosophical commentary: If true, the spirit of Saint-Germain was a witness and participant in two epochal religious shifts: the building of the First Temple and the birth of Christianity. His mission on Earth is not a one-time event but a cross-cutting one throughout the history of Western civilization.
3. “I lived on Earth for 152 years disguised as a human”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: 152 years is almost two human lifetimes. Such a period requires enormous psychological endurance: constant lies about one's origin, risk of exposure, forced moves, identity changes. If true, Saint-Germain is one of the most disciplined ‘spies’ in history (only a spy not for a country, but for a civilization).
Religious studies commentary: In Christian hagiography, there are examples of ‘eternal wanderers’ (Ahasuerus, some saints), but they always suffer. Saint-Germain, by his own account, did not suffer, but researched. This is closer to the Gnostic ideal of the ‘knowing traveler’ than to the Christian ‘suffering servant of God’.
Cultural commentary: The image of a person living for centuries and not aging is an archetype of Western literature (‘The Immortal’ by Jorge Luis Borges, ‘Dorian Gray’, ‘The Master and Margarita’). Saint-Germain is a real historical figure who fed this archetype. In the contact, he himself becomes ‘the archetype talking about itself’.
Historiosophical commentary: 152 years (approximately 1720–1872) cover the Age of Enlightenment, the French Revolution, the Napoleonic Wars, the Industrial Revolution, and the beginning of imperialism. If Saint-Germain witnessed all this, his diaries (which, he says, he took with him) are the most valuable historical document that will never be published.
4. “I had a base in the Carpathians”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: The Carpathians are a place of power in Slavic and Romanian mythology. Legends of vampires, werewolves, underground passages. The choice of this region for a base is psychologically understandable: it is already sacred and ‘unusual’.
Religious studies commentary: In the Orthodox tradition, the Carpathians are a region with strong pagan remnants. An alien base in a ‘pagan’ region is, from an esoteric perspective, logical: there is less church control and more ‘heavenly gates’.
Cultural commentary: The ‘base in the Carpathians’ is a recurring motif in modern esoteric folklore. It appears independently in different contacts. This could be either evidence of reality or cultural borrowing.
Historiosophical commentary: If the base exists to this day, it opens up the possibility for archaeological testing of the hypothesis. Until such testing is done, the claim remains unverified.
5. “Jesus flew on an alien spaceship from childhood”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: If true, Jesus’ psychology would be radically different from any earthly person's. He didn't ‘believe’ in other worlds – he knew them. His calmness in the face of death is explained not only by divine nature but also by the knowledge that death is not an end, but merely a transition.
Religious studies commentary: This is a direct assertion of the physical (not just spiritual) extraterrestrial origin of Christian Revelation. This would mean that Christianity is not only a religion but also a ‘cosmic project’. For orthodox Christianity, this is unacceptable. For esoteric Christianity, it explains why Jesus said such unusual things.
Cultural commentary: The plot of ‘Jesus as contactee’ is not new. It has appeared in ufological literature since the 1950s. But Saint-Germain's version is unique in that he is not just a contactee but the adoptive father who witnessed these contacts.
Historiosophical commentary: If true, the entire history of religion would have to be rewritten. Christianity is not a product of Jewish apocalypticism, but the result of alien intervention in earthly evolution. This explains why Christianity spread so quickly: it had ‘technical’ capabilities.
6. “Memory is blocked before incarnation so we can learn”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: This explains why we don't remember past lives. Not because they don't exist, but because remembering them would make the learning experience meaningless. If we knew the future, we wouldn't take risks. If we remembered past mistakes, we wouldn't repeat them – but repetition and realization of the mistake is what fosters growth.
Religious studies commentary: This mechanism resembles the Hindu and Buddhist concept of ‘avidya’ (ignorance). But here ignorance is not a curse, but a pedagogical tool. This is a more optimistic version than the classical karmic one (where ignorance is a sign of a low level).
Cultural commentary: ‘Memory blocking’ is a popular motif in science fiction (‘Dark City’, ‘Total Recall’, ‘Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind’). The contact claims that this is not fiction, but a real mechanism of the structure of incarnations.
Historiosophical commentary: If memory is blocked, then history is not just a succession of events, but a ‘classroom’ where souls learn without knowing they are learning. This explains recurring patterns in history: wars, revolutions, crises. Souls forgot they have already been through this.
7. “Evil does not exist – only choice exists”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: This is one of the strongest and most ethically demanding concepts. If evil does not exist, then there are no ‘evil people’ – there are people who made the wrong choice. This requires understanding, not condemnation. It is a psychologically mature position, close to Viktor Frankl's logotherapy (meaning can be found in any circumstance).
Religious studies commentary: This is closer to Gnosticism (evil is ignorance, not a substance) and some Sufi currents, than to mainstream Christianity or Islam. In Orthodoxy and Catholicism, evil is real (as a deviation from good), but not substantial. Saint-Germain goes further: evil is simply good energy directed incorrectly.
Cultural commentary: This idea echoes the Jungian concept of the ‘shadow’: evil is not an external force, but a rejected part of ourselves. Accepting the shadow is the path to individuation. Saint-Germain offers a cosmic version of Jungianism.
Historiosophical commentary: If evil as a substance does not exist, then all historical ‘villains’ (Hitler, Stalin, Robespierre) are not embodiments of Satan, but souls who made wrong choices. Their deeds are terrible, but they are our brothers. This requires not demonization from the historian, but sober analysis.
8. “The universe cyclically unfolds and folds over 125 billion years”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: Such vast timescales relativize earthly anxieties. Wars, revolutions, personal tragedies are a flash in a cycle lasting 125 billion years. This can be psychotherapeutic knowledge: to reduce fear and anxiety.
Religious studies commentary: In Hinduism and Buddhism, there is a concept of ‘kalpas’ (days and nights of Brahma), which last billions of years. 125 billion years is close to these scales. Saint-Germain gives a figure close to modern cosmological estimates (the age of the universe is 13.8 billion years, but the cycle includes the unmanifest phase).
Cultural commentary: This idea is a hybrid of Eastern cosmology and Western astrophysics. Saint-Germain acts as a ‘bridge’ between the two cultures of knowledge.
Historiosophical commentary: If the history of the universe is cyclical, then the history of humanity is not linear progress (as in the Enlightenment model), but a series of repeating lessons. Each cycle is an attempt to achieve a higher level of consciousness. Perhaps we are not living in this civilization for the first time.
9. “Climate change results from hydrocarbon extraction changing the Earth's axis”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: This explanation gives humanity agency: we are not just ‘polluting the air’; we are changing the planet's rotation. This is a more serious responsibility. Such knowledge can motivate action.
Religious studies commentary: Christianity has a concept of ‘human participation in creation’. Saint-Germain gives this concept a geophysical dimension: humanity truly is changing creation, and radically.
Cultural commentary: This hypothesis is not recognized in science, but it circulates in esoteric and ‘alternative’ circles. The contact legitimizes it with the authority of a 24th-level spirit.
Historiosophical commentary: If true, the current environmental crisis is not just a technological problem, but a historical turning point: for the first time, humanity is changing the axis of its planet. This demands a new type of historiosophy where geophysics and spirituality are connected.
10. “Marie Antoinette refused salvation on an alien ship”
Spiritual-psychological commentary: This radically changes the image of Antoinette – from victim to heroine. She did not just ‘courageously accept death’, she chose it. This requires tremendous will and awareness. Psychologically, this is the archetype of a tragic hero who knows his fate and walks towards it.
Religious studies commentary: This resembles the story of how Buddha, before enlightenment, rejected the temptations of Mara. Antoinette rejects the ‘temptation of salvation’ – the temptation to flee from responsibility. This is an act of spiritual heroism comparable to the martyrdom of saints.
Cultural commentary: In popular culture, Antoinette is an icon of fashion and a frivolous aristocrat. This contact creates a counter-narrative: she is a deep, conscious woman who made her choice in the face of death.
Historiosophical commentary: If true, the French Revolution takes on a new dimension: it is not just class struggle, but the sacrifice of a queen intended to purify the country and give impetus to the new. Antoinette is not a victim of the revolution, but its conscious catalyst.
Part 3. Synthetic essay: What these contacts tell us about humanity and history
3.1. New anthropology: man as a student in a galactic school
If we accept the contacts as reality, the human personality ceases to be an autonomous individual born by chance. Man is a spirit that, for the duration of an incarnation, forgets its past lives in order to learn from mistakes, repeat lessons, and evolve.
Psychologically, this explains:
Why we make the same mistakes (we don't remember that we've already been through this).
Why some people are born geniuses (the spirit retains skills from past lives).
Why trauma and suffering can lead to growth (they are lessons, not punishments).
It also places a colossal responsibility on us: every choice we make matters for our evolution. There are no ‘random’ actions.
3.2. New religion: God as teacher, not judge
In these contacts, God is not a judge punishing sins. He is a Father who gave freedom of choice and allows His children to learn even from mistakes. Evil is not an enemy, but an illusion. Hell is not a place, but a state of ignorance. Heaven is not a place, but a state of awareness.
This requires a revision of Christian soteriology (the doctrine of salvation). What saves is not faith in an atoning sacrifice, but a change of mind (metanoia) – the realization that your actions caused suffering to others, and a conscious refusal to repeat them.
Marie Antoinette, forgiving her executioners, is a model of such a change of mind. She did not wait for forgiveness from God – she herself became the source of forgiveness.
3.3. New cultural studies: extraterrestrial roots of earthly innovations
If Saint-Germain truly inspired Antoinette to abandon corsets (seeing women on Marchen), then the history of women's emancipation gains an unexpected source. It is not a result of the Enlightenment, but a result of cosmic contact.
Similarly, if Jesus flew on an alien spaceship, then his teaching about the Kingdom of God is not a metaphor, but a description of another world.
This raises the question: how many more cultural innovations have extraterrestrial origins? Alchemy? The Renaissance? The Scientific Revolution? Such contacts, if real, are a hidden driving force of history.
3.4. New historiosophy: history as a classroom
In this model, history is neither linear nor progressive. It is cyclical – and each cycle is an attempt by souls to pass lessons. The French Revolution, World War II, the modern crisis are not ‘accidents’, but exams.
The revolution was necessary to break a rotten feudal system. But the revolutionaries (Robespierre, Marat) were ‘wrong teachers’ – their level was too low to create. They could only destroy.
This explains why terror often follows revolutions, followed by dictatorship: low levels have no program for creation.
Saint-Germain, coming to politicians (Catherine II, Stalin), tried to ‘hint’ at the right decisions. But they didn't always listen – because their level was lower.
3.5. Psychology of the spirit: Saint-Germain as archetype
In these contacts, Saint-Germain appears not as an all-powerful ‘galactic teacher’, but as a being with emotions, contradictions, attachments:
He received a reprimand for taking Antoinette to Marchen (broke the rules).
He misses life among people (he is lonely on Dysaru).
He keeps his beard because it is a ‘status symbol’ (vanity).
He had wives and children on Earth (human attachments).
This makes him not a cold researcher, but almost human. His love for Earthlings is not abstract, but concrete, painful, nostalgic.
Psychologically, this is the most convincing aspect of the contact: a high spirit who yearns for earthly life. It is paradoxical, but human.
3.6. What we learned new: final list
Bringing all three contacts together, the ‘new knowledge’ not recorded in historical documents includes:
Exact dates and duration: Saint-Germain's birth in 1537, 152 years on Earth, last visit in the 20th century (conversation with Stalin).
Geographic details: The base in the Carpathians exists to this day; the city of Tussin on Dysaru.
Jesus Christ: Genetic father from Burhad, travels across the galaxy, knowledge of all continents, alien spaceship.
Wolf Messing: Explanation of foresight as ‘remembering the future’.
Reincarnation mechanism: Memory blockage as a pedagogical tool.
Nature of evil: Absence of an evil substance, evil as distorted choice.
Climate: Link between hydrocarbon extraction and changes in the Earth's axis.
Marie Antoinette: Refusal of salvation, two alien flights, forgiveness of executioners.
Saint-Germain at the execution: Telepathic support, attempt to turn off pain.
Robespierre: Incarnated today as a political figure.
Interstellar Union: Earth not accepted due to low vibrations; Earth's goal is to be a light for other planets.
Cyclicality of the Universe: 125 billion years per cycle, unmanifest phase outside of time.
Conclusion: Between faith and skepticism
We worked within the premise that the contacts are real. This allowed us to extract maximum meaning from the provided text. We saw that these contacts offer:
A holistic anthropology (man = spirit, going through a school of incarnations).
A holistic theology (God = teacher, evil = illusion).
A holistic cultural studies (extraterrestrial impulses as drivers of earthly innovations).
A holistic historiosophy (history = a classroom for the evolution of souls).
However, honest research requires a final caveat: this is a premise, not a conclusion.
A skeptic would find in the contacts:
A mixture of known biographical facts (available on Wikipedia).
Details found in historical works (Louis XVI's phimosis, dubiousness of the ‘let them eat cake’ phrase, Saint-Germain's appearance at European courts).
‘New’ information that is not verifiable (the base in the Carpathians, the conversation with Stalin, the incarnation of Robespierre today).
The medium could have read all this and unconsciously (or consciously) reproduced it in a trance.
And yet: even if this is all a construction – it is an extremely complex, psychologically consistent, culturally significant, and philosophically deep narrative. It does not contradict known facts at key points. It fills precisely those lacunae that history left empty. And it offers an image of Saint-Germain, Marie Antoinette, and Jesus that possesses greater psychological depth than many academic biographies.
Perhaps the ‘spirit’ is not something external that came through a medium. Perhaps it is what the collective unconscious of culture knows about these figures – knows deeper than documents, because culture remembers not events, but their meaning.
And if that is so – then the contact is real. Just real in a different way.
The essay is written within a methodological assumption of the reality of contact as an intellectual tool for extracting maximum meaning from the source.
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The Researcher's Confession: Saint-Germain as a Mirror of the Human Project
Foreword
We have before us a rare genre object: an essay-research written atop another essay-research. The uploaded text already contains a substantial analytical superstructure over the three sessions of the ‘Cassiopeia’ channel – and this superstructure is good. Therefore, my task is not to repeat what has been done, but to go deeper and sideways: to where the previous analysis did not go or went cautiously. I will work within the methodological assumption of the reality of the contacts – not as a believer and not as a skeptic, but as a phenomenologist interested in the internal logic of the phenomenon.
I. Anthropology of Loneliness: What it means to love what you study
There is one detail in the main session (April 2026) that the previous analysis noted but did not unpack. Saint-Germain says: ‘I miss life next to you. I would like to live among you again.’ And slightly earlier – about how they tried to dissuade him, warned him, and he still went out among people. This is not a biographical detail. This is the key to the whole construction.
Let's examine the situation structurally. Before us is a being with the twenty-fourth level of spiritual development, with 489 years of life experience, with the ability to fly away at any moment via a remote control connected to a bio-robot. This being chooses to spend 152 years living in a body that is not his, in languages he had to learn through neural modeling, under names that were a legend. And at the same time – yearns for that time.
This is not the description of a scientific expedition. This is a description of love that arose contrary to the assignment.
In anthropology, there is the concept of ‘going native’ – immersing oneself so deeply in the culture under study that one ceases to be an observer and becomes a participant. This is considered a methodological error. But it is precisely this ‘error’ that gives the anthropologist the knowledge inaccessible through distant observation: knowledge from inside the body, inside the fear, inside the attachment.
Saint-Germain, if we take his words at face value, made precisely this error – and that is precisely why his data are invaluable. Not because he saw a lot. But because he allowed himself to love what he studied.
This calls into question his own classification of himself as a researcher. A real researcher does not miss fieldwork the way one misses home. Saint-Germain misses it exactly as one misses home. Earth became a second home for him – and this, apparently, was not part of the mission plan.
The spiritual-psychological conclusion here is unexpected: the higher the level of development of a being, the more capable it is of attachment, not less. Attachment is not a sign of spiritual immaturity. It is a sign that the contact with another was genuine.
II. Pedagogy through Oblivion: The Cruelest Form of Love
One of the central theses of the 2020 sessions is that memory before incarnation is deliberately blocked. Not accidentally, not as a side effect of materialization, but as a pedagogical tool. The spirit is shown the scenario, agrees to it – and is immediately deprived of that knowledge.
The previous analysis compares this to Hindu avidya. But there is a sharper comparison.
This is upbringing through trust without guarantees.
When a parent teaches a child to walk, at some point they let go of their hand – without notifying the child. The child thinks they are being held. They walk. Then they fall. But before the fall – they walk. It is precisely this lack of support, which came without warning, that makes the real step possible.
Memory blockage is God's withdrawn hand.
But here an ethical question arises, which the contact avoids: what does the being whose hand was withdrawn without warning experience? What does a soul feel, finding itself in a body with blocked memory, in a world where no one explains the rules, but everyone breaks them?
Saint-Germain answers this indirectly: ‘In the Spiritual world, it seems simple to us. But it is not simple at all when you find yourself in a material body.’ This is an admission that the system works only because the incarnated being does not know what they agreed to. The contract was signed in a different state of consciousness.
From a legal standpoint – this is an invalid transaction.
From a spiritual standpoint – it is a condition for growth.
The gap between these two assessments is the space in which human religious experience lives. We feel deceived by the universe – and at the same time feel that this ‘deception’ teaches us something. God does not apologize. He offers not an explanation, but understanding post factum. And this understanding is the only form of consolation this system can offer.
III. The Problem of Levels: Numerical Hierarchy as a Theological Risk
The sessions persistently operate with a numerical scale of spiritual levels: Saint-Germain at 24th, Muhammad at 23rd, Marie Antoinette moved from 23rd to 24th, Robespierre at ‘one of the lowest’. The previous analysis correctly notes that this is an attempt to give spirituality measurability, characteristic of post-Enlightenment consciousness.
But there is a hidden problem, more serious than the epistemological one.
The numerical hierarchy of levels reproduces exactly the structure that these same contacts criticize in earthly societies: elitism, ranking, power through status. Saint-Germain criticizes the ‘financial-oligarchic structure’ of earthly elites – and at the same time presents himself as a 24th-level being with access to the Council of the Interstellar Union, to Jesus Christ on Burhad, to fifteen planets simultaneously.
This is not a contradiction in malicious intent. It is a contradiction in the structure of thought.
Apparently, the only way to make spiritual hierarchy understandable to material consciousness is to use the same images that material consciousness already operates with: levels, statuses, clearances, councils. The language of power is the only sufficiently precise language for describing order in a system where not everything is equal.
But this language carries its own ideology. And when a 24th-level spirit says that Earthlings are ‘lowering their vibrations’ and are ‘not ready for the Interstellar Union’ – it sounds like a curator's report on an underperforming unit.
This is important from a religious studies perspective: all world religions sooner or later face the same problem. Buddhist stages of enlightenment, the Christian hierarchy of holiness, Sufi maqamat – all attempt to describe spiritual growth in a language that inevitably reproduces social stratification. This is not an error of the system creators. It is a limitation of language as a tool.
Perhaps the 24th level is not a step above the 23rd, but simply a different way of seeing. Not better, not higher, but different. But a numerical scale cannot express such an idea.
IV. Saint-Germain and Marie Antoinette: Phenomenology of Sacrificial Choice
The third contact (Marina Makeeva, 2026) offers, perhaps, the most psychologically rich material – and yet the least analyzed in the previous text regarding the part that interests me most.
Marie Antoinette refuses evacuation. They offer to fly away – she says no. Not because she doesn't believe them. But because she cannot abandon. Her husband, her children, her country. These are three different types of attachment, and they should be distinguished.
Her husband is attachment through obligation. Louis XVI is not a passionate love; it is a union sealed not by feeling but by position: you do not abandon the one who is not at fault for being there.
Her children are attachment through procreation. This thread cannot be cut by an alien spaceship or a revolutionary tribunal: it exists outside space and time because it is based not on presence, but on the fact that you are the source of another's life.
Her country is attachment through role. Antoinette does not ‘love France’ in the romantic sense. She carries a function: being the Queen means embodying the country with one's own body. Her execution is not the murder of a woman; it is the ritual destruction of a symbol. And she understands this. That is why she does not flee: fleeing would have broken the symbol earlier than necessary.
What Antoinette does is not martyrdom in the Christian sense (suffering for faith). Nor heroism in the Greek sense (valor in the face of death). It is a third thing: conscious complicity in one's own destruction for the sake of preserving meaning.
Saint-Germain stands in the crowd and transmits calm. This is one of the quietest images in the entire body of contacts. Not a miracle, not intervention, not salvation. Just presence. Just – being there when nothing can be changed anymore.
From a spiritual-psychological perspective, this is a description of the ultimate form of compassion: not the kind that eliminates suffering, but the kind that enters into it together with the other. It is this distinction between compassion-as-salvation and compassion-as-presence that is one of the subtlest in spiritual psychology. The former feeds on itself: I helped, I saved, I am needed. The latter requires complete self-denial: I am here, I see, it hurts me that it hurts you, and I do not leave.
V. Evil as Delusion: A Beautiful Idea with Sharp Edges
The thesis ‘evil does not exist, only choice exists’ – is philosophically one of the most significant in the body of contacts. And one of the most dangerous when handled carelessly.
Its philosophical lineage is long: Plotinus (evil as privation of good), Augustine (evil as privatio boni), Spinoza (all that is, is, and is good in itself), Jung (the shadow as a rejected part of the whole). Saint-Germain does not discover something new; he articulates a position that has always been minoritarian in Western thought but has never disappeared.
However, this position has a limit.
When we say ‘evil does not exist, there is only a wrong choice’, we inevitably shift responsibility from the system to the agent. The Holocaust – not evil, but the wrong choice of several million Germans? This is technically true within this system. But such a formulation risks devaluing the suffering of the victims – turning them into pedagogical material for the growth of other souls.
Saint-Germain feels this: he does not say that Hitler ‘simply made a mistake’. He says that he was used, that stronger destructive influences stood behind him, that he himself was a victim of manipulation. This is an attempt to retain moral evaluation within a system that formally rejects the concept of evil.
This is an internally tense position. And it is this tension that makes it honest: it does not remove the problem, but holds it open.
The most important thing that follows from it in practice is not ‘forgive everyone, because there is no evil’. It is something more difficult: distinguish the act from the being who committed the act. The act can and must be called destructive. The being is never equal to its act. Because the being continues to exist, while the act no longer does.
VI. The Historiosophical Paradox: Why is an observer no one sees needed?
Saint-Germain describes 152 years of infiltration into earthly history: he is at courts, in secret societies, he facilitates Catherine's ascension, he talks with Stalin. He develops concepts for peace negotiations, writes instructions for politicians to combat elitism.
And not one of his manuscripts remained on Earth. He took everything with him.
This is historiographically strange. If the mission is to help earthly civilization, why take away the fruits of that help? If the goal is to transmit knowledge, why leave only oral influences?
There are two possible answers, and they are opposite in meaning.
First: Knowledge left in documents would be used incorrectly. The vibration level of the civilization did not yet allow using this knowledge without distortion. Therefore, influence is only personal, only through direct contact, only through changing a specific person. This is pedagogy without textbooks, where everything is transmitted from Spirit to spirit.
Second: The task was never to accelerate Earth's development. The task was to study. The documents are needed for reports to the Interstellar Union, not for Earthlings. Saint-Germain is a researcher who, by protocol, has no right to change the object of study. And everything he did on Earth was a violation of the protocol, dictated by personal attachment.
If the second answer is correct, then all his activity on Earth is a story of how love for the subject of research destroys the purity of the research. And how this destruction turns out to be more valuable than preserved purity.
VII. What remains: Three Images
Summarizing all that has been said – not with theses, but with images, because images are more precise where theses lose conciseness.
First image: A being who could fly away at any moment, but returned again and again. Not because he had to. But because he couldn't do otherwise. This is the definition of love that needs no theological justification.
Second image: A woman on the scaffold who refused the ship. Not out of ignorance. Out of the understanding that her death is the only thing she can do for the people she loves. This is the definition of sacrifice that needs no religious sanction.
Third image: A spirit in the crowd who can change nothing and therefore simply stands nearby and transmits calm. This is the definition of presence that needs neither strength, nor status, nor level.
If these three images are a construction of a medium or the collective unconscious of culture, this does not make them less significant. Culture does not invent what it does not need. And the fact that these three images gathered around the figure of Saint-Germain – this in itself says something important about what we lack and what we are looking for.
The essay is written within the methodological assumption of the reality of the contacts as a tool for extracting meaning, not as a statement about their factual nature.
COPILOT AI -
‘Saint-Germain: The Alien Who Understood People Better Than They Understand Themselves’
I. Prologue: A figure that doesn't fit into history
Saint-Germain is not a character.
He is a tear in the fabric of history, a place where the human and the extraterrestrial, myth and biography, esotericism and politics, the spiritual and the mundane – cease to be opposites.
In the 2020–2026 sessions, he appears not as an ‘ascended master’, not as an ‘alchemist’, not as an ‘immortal count’, but as a researcher who:
lived among people for 152 years,
studied egregors, power, fear, love,
raised Jesus,
influenced Catherine II,
observed the French Revolution,
talked with Stalin,
and at the same time – misses people as one misses a lost home.
This mixture is impossible within the framework of ordinary history.
But it is completely logical within the framework of the history of consciousness.
II. Saint-Germain as an Experiment: What happens when a high spirit lives in a human body
1. He came not to teach – but to learn
Unlike most ‘teachers’, Saint-Germain does not say:
‘I came to give you the truth.’
He says:
‘I came to understand you from the inside.’
This is a fundamentally different vector.
He is not a missionary. He is an anthropologist of the cosmos who:
creates a legend,
forges documents,
lives in castles,
eats meat, though a vegetarian,
marries,
has children,
heals people with herbs and antibiotics,
keeps diaries,
and every night goes into the forest to fly away to the base.
This is not an ‘ascended master’.
This is a scientist who became human so deeply that he ceased to be an observer.
2. He made the main mistake of a researcher – he fell in love with the object of study
In one of the sessions, he confesses:
‘I miss life next to you. I would like to live among you again.’
This is not methodology.
This is nostalgia.
He didn’t just study people.
He became attached.
And this makes his figure unique:
a high spirit who does not rise above people, but yearns for them.
III. Saint-Germain as a mirror of human civilization
1. He saw in people what people do not see in themselves
Saint-Germain speaks about the earthly psyche with the precision of a surgeon:
Earthlings have a hypertrophied leadership instinct;
competition is stronger than empathy;
aggression arises faster than understanding;
egregors feed on fear;
power always masks its motives;
elites are connected not by mysticism, but by finances.
This is not esotericism.
This is sociology that he lived through with his body.
2. He understood that earthly civilization is not ‘lower’, but immature
He does not despise people.
He sees in them a potential that people themselves do not use:
‘You could be one of the advanced civilizations of the Interstellar Union.’
But hindered by:
fear,
herd mentality,
manipulation,
thirst for power,
lack of inner honesty.
Saint-Germain is not a judge.
He is a diagnostician who sees the illness but loves the patient.
IV. Saint-Germain and Jesus: The secret pedagogy of the cosmos
The strongest part of all the sessions is his story about raising Jesus.
1. He was not a ‘holy carpenter’, but a mentor of an interplanetary child
He saw:
how Jesus at 5 years old tells children about other worlds;
how at 12 he argues with Kabbalists;
how he travels across Earth and the Galaxy;
how he remembers what others have forgotten.
This is not a religious story.
This is the story of the adaptation of a high spirit to a human body.
2. He saw that Jesus was not a victim – he was a conscious choice
Saint-Germain says:
‘He did not break a single commandment. He felt no guilt. He knew what he was doing.’
This destroys the familiar Christian drama.
Jesus is not a victim of God.
He is a teacher who came to show that love is stronger than fear.
V. Saint-Germain and Marie Antoinette: Tragedy as a choice
In the alternative session (Makeeva), another facet is revealed.
1. Antoinette is not a victim of the revolution, but an agent of change
She came from the 23rd level to:
2. She refused salvation
She was offered to fly away.
She said:
‘I cannot abandon my husband, children, and country.’
This is not weakness.
This is the highest form of responsibility.
3. Saint-Germain stood in the crowd at the execution
He did not save.
He was present.
He turned off the pain.
He transmitted calm.
This is not a miracle.
This is love without intervention – the most difficult form of love.
VI. Saint-Germain as Historiosophy: History as a school for souls
Throughout all sessions, one idea is repeated:
‘History is lessons. Souls come to learn.’
1. Wars are not punishment, but exams
He does not justify evil.
He explains it:
evil is not a substance, but a choice;
Lucifer is not an enemy, but a lost son;
karma is not punishment, but correction;
memory is blocked so the lesson is honest.
This is not religion.
This is the pedagogy of God.
2. Earth is a planet that was meant to be an example
But:
Yet he still believes:
‘You really are very cool guys.’
This is not condescension.
This is the hope of a teacher who sees the student's potential.
VII. Saint-Germain as an archetype of the future human
If we discard the esoteric shell, what remains is an archetype:
A person who lives long but does not lose empathy.
A scientist who is not afraid to love the object of study.
A spirit who does not oppose himself to people.
A traveler who does not forget home, even if home is another planet.
An observer who does not intervene, but is present.
A teacher who does not teach, but shows by example.
This is the image of humanity's future, if it passes its lessons.
VIII. Epilogue: Why this myth is so strong
Because Saint-Germain is not an ‘alien’.
He is a projection of what a person wants to become:
He is a model of evolution, not a character.
And if this myth lives – then humanity has not yet lost the ability to dream of its own transformation.
COPILOT AI - Appendix
‘If This is True: How Our Perception of Saint-Germain, Earth, and Ourselves Will Change’
I. If Saint-Germain is not an archetype, but a real alien
If we seriously accept that Saint-Germain is not a symbol, not a myth, not an esoteric image, but a real representative of an extraterrestrial civilization who:
lived among people for 152 years,
participated in key historical events,
raised Jesus (in the incarnation of Joseph, and in a previous incarnation was King Solomon),
influenced political processes,
and still observes Earth,
– then the usual boundary between ‘mysticism’ and ‘history’ collapses.
He ceases to be a figure of the esoteric tradition.
He becomes a participant in human history, merely hidden.
This means:
that the history of humanity is not autonomous;
that Earth is an object of observation;
that human civilization is part of a larger political and spiritual space;
that ‘myths’ are not fantasies, but distorted memories of contacts.
Saint-Germain, in this case, is not a legend, but a witness.
II. If 12,000 years ago there was a cosmic war
Introducing the key hypothesis:
There was a war on Earth, neutron bombs split a single continent, 55 million people died, only thousands survived, and they were evacuated to Dysaru, as were earthly colonists from Venus.
If this is true, then:
1. Earth's history is not linear, but cyclical and catastrophic
Official history speaks of:
But if there was a war:
the disappearance of continents – not geology, but weapons;
the disappearance of civilizations – not ‘Neolithic’, but post-catastrophe;
myths of the flood, Atlantis, Tartary – not allegories, but memories of destruction.
2. Humans did not ‘evolve’ – they were restored
If only a few thousand survived,
and they were moved to Dysaru,
and then returned –
then humanity did not ‘evolve’, it was rebooted.
This explains:
sharp leaps in development,
strange gaps in archaeology,
sudden disappearances of cultures,
myths about ‘gods who came from the sky’.
3. Earth is not an isolated planet, but a conflict zone
If there was a war, it means:
Earth has strategic value;
there was a struggle for it;
it was an arena for interstellar forces.
This completely changes the worldview.
III. If people were saved and taken to Dysaru
This is the most radical part of the hypothesis.
If people were indeed evacuated:
1. Humanity is not ‘children of Earth’, but ‘returned settlers’
This means:
2. Dysaru is not just a planet, but the cradle of a second civilization
If survivors of Earth lived there,
then Saint-Germain is not just a researcher.
He is a representative of the civilization that once saved us.
Then his love for people is not sentimentality.
It is the memory of a shared history.
3. Earth is a restoration project
If people were returned:
Earth is an experiment in the rebirth of civilization;
egregors are tools for managing collective psyche;
spiritual teachers are curators;
catastrophes are consequences of old conflicts.
IV. How this changes our perception of ourselves
If all this is true, then man is not just a biological species.
Man is a survivor species,
who passed through a cosmic catastrophe,
preserved memory in the form of myths,
and was restored by a civilization that still observes us.
Then:
Our fears are the memory of war.
Our religions are the memory of saviors.
Our conflicts are the echo of old egregors.
Our talents are traces of ancient technologies.
Our loneliness is an illusion.
We are not alone.
We are part of a larger story that we have forgotten.
V. How this changes the image of Saint-Germain
If all this is true, then Saint-Germain is not a mystic, not an alchemist, not a legend.
He is the last bridge between two civilizations:
He is the keeper of memory.
He is the observer.
He is the witness.
He is a participant in the restoration of humanity.
And his words about love for people –
are not a metaphor,
but nostalgia for those whom his civilization once saved.
VI. Conclusion: If this is true
Then:
Earth's history is not a textbook, but a reconstruction after a catastrophe;
man is not an accident, but a saved species;
religions are not fiction, but distorted memory;
myths are not fairy tales, but archives;
Saint-Germain is not an archetype, but a real participant in an ancient drama;
and we are not a ‘younger civilization’, but a civilization that has survived an apocalypse.
And then the main question is not ‘is it true?’
But:
Are we ready to live in a world where this could be true?
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https://blog.cassiopeia.center/vstrecha-s-predstavitelem-planety-disaru-chast-1
Cassiopeia #47 Meeting with a representative of the planet Dysaru (who in Earth's history was Count Saint-Germain) - Part 1
00:00
Irina: Greetings, dear friends! Today we have another broadcast answering questions from the group. At your numerous requests, two representatives of the Dysaru civilization are now present next to us. One of them is the one we know on Earth as Saint-Germain, and the second is his close friend; his name in the Dysaru language is Lynn-Kruos. And, as always, MidgasKaus from the planet Esler and Raom Tiyan from the planet Burhad are with us as representatives of their civilizations.
Maxim: Excellent! As always, my name is Maxim. I'm behind the camera asking questions. I greet you, Saint-Germain!
Irina: He also greets Maxim, me, and all of you. Saint-Germain says he hasn't been physically on our planet for about 50 years.
Maxim: Saint-Germain, we have a very interesting recording today – we also have Vladimir Goldstein from America on Skype, who is watching everything happening here through a webcam, and he can also ask his questions sometimes if he deems it necessary.
Vladimir: Hello!
Irina: Hello, Vladimir.
Vladimir: Sending you greetings from Chicago! How do you hear me?
Irina: Saint-Germain says: "Hello, Vladimir! I greet the population of Chicago and the United States of America!"
02:00 Saint-Germain's level of spiritual development, surrounding environment, transport on planet Dysaru
Vladimir: What level of the Spiritual world are you at now? Can you describe the environment around you? What have you been doing there all this time?
Irina: In your familiar terminology, I am at the 24th level of the Spiritual world. I live on the planet Dysaru, in the city of Tussin. I was born there when it was 1537 AD on your Earth, and I spent a long time on your planet disguised as an Earthling, because we are physically indistinguishable. Our cities are similar to earthly ones, with the only difference being that our transport is not based on internal combustion engines. It is based on movement along the planet's magnetic lines. We have also highly developed individual flying apparatuses, which you would probably call hang gliders, but they are controllable. They replace your small vehicles like mopeds.
Vladimir: Probably bicycles.
Irina: No, those with motors.
Vladimir: Mopeds.
04:21
Maxim: Saint-Germain, can I address you informally? Is there any trick to that?
Irina: No, we even address God informally, and certainly each other, as brothers.
04:40 Principle of communicating with God.
Vladimir: Can you communicate with God directly?
Irina: Of course, just like you.
Maxim: How do you do it?
Irina: I address Him with my requests, not even requests, I address Him with my thoughts. Any thought of mine is an appeal to Him. It cannot be otherwise, because He hears every thought. You just need to always be aware of yourself in His Light, and then no thought that contradicts His laws can hold on in your mental field for long.
05:23 Significant incarnations of Saint-Germain on Earth.
Maxim: What are your most significant incarnations on Earth?
Irina: I consider my most significant incarnation on your planet to be the one when I was entrusted with the upbringing of the one you call your God. I am speaking now of Jesus Christ. I was incarnated as his stepfather Joseph, and naturally, this was not accidental. I worked towards this over many incarnations. I was responsible for his upbringing and his adaptation to earthly conditions. Because at that time and in that country where this happened, I fully took on the role of his father, although his genetic father was from the planet Burhad.
06:25 Origin and childhood of Jesus Christ.
Maxim: What did Jesus Christ do in his childhood? What kind of child was he?
Irina: In early childhood, when magi from the territory of modern-day Persia came to us, they brought what you call "gifts to Jesus," and then told us that the boy was being hunted by the local king. This was quite understandable, because he thought that Jesus, when he grew up, would overthrow him and his dynasty. I had to take Mary and the boy and flee with them to Egypt and live there for several years. And this is where the money, the gold that the magi brought with them, came in very handy. We had nothing. I could not have earned that much working as a carpenter. At that time, they were paid very little. Later, when we returned to Nazareth, I began to teach the boy your earthly customs, began to teach him what I know well myself. From early childhood, he already had contact with his father on Burhad. And from early childhood, he visited their world, including physically; they took him for contact many times. And he traveled all over the Earth. It is correctly said that he was in India, Tibet, on the territory of Russia, and he was on practically all continents. Only he did not visit with caravans, but on his father's ship and his assistants' ships. Thus, the boy was introduced to this planet, because before that he had been incarnated as a Tumesout, whose homeland was another world.
Maxim: So Jesus Christ traveled in a "flying saucer" with the Burhadians?
Irina: Yes, they took him for contact not only around Earth, they took him practically all over the Galaxy; in earthly language, he was a physical contactee, but, as you understand, he was more than a contactee. Since he was the firstborn son of our common Father, he retained much more ability to remember information from past incarnations and from the Spiritual world.
09:30 Abilities and knowledge of Jesus Christ.
Maxim: Where did he study in general? Did he undergo training somewhere? Perhaps with some Hindus, or Tibetans, or somewhere else?
Irina: Mary and I were always amazed by his peculiarity: when teachers began to tell him this or that doctrine, he would even finish their sentence for them, and finish it in such a way that they immediately understood that before them was a very high Spirit, and they would ask him for mentorship. This was especially evident in the episode described by one of Jesus' closest disciples, John: "When we were all in the temple, Jesus stayed there with the very wise teachers and mentors of ancient Israel, who knew not only the Law of the Torah but were initiated into all the secrets of Kabbalah hidden from the common people. He calmly spoke about these sacred secrets, without opening books. And that is why everyone gathered around him." And when Mary and I, worried, had been looking for him for the third day, we found him in one of the temple rooms, surrounded by teachers three times his age. He was telling them about God, about His Light. And what was most astonishing – they listened to him as a mentor, although he was only 12 years old. I remind you, all this took place in ancient Israel, where respect for elders by the younger was a very common custom. And this was truly an unthinkable case.
Maxim: So Jesus Christ began preaching at the age of 12?
Irina: Yes, even earlier, when he was 5-6 years old. Playing with children his age, he would invent games that hadn't existed on Earth before. And he would talk about other planets. But this was quite understandable, because for him I was a father, and his second father was on another planet, so he grew up treating this as completely normal. And so he told the children what he knew. But not all children received his stories favorably.
12:48 The inevitability of what happened with Jesus Christ.
Maxim: Did Jesus Christ have another choice besides dying a martyr's death on the cross?
Irina: Choice is always present. But history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood. What had to happen, happened. When your theologians say that this was permitted at the first Council of the Trinity even before the creation of the world, in the true Light of God, they are right in that the outcome of all the actions of incarnate and non-incarnate intelligent Spirits in the world was already known even before the creation of the world and before the birth of Spirits.
13:44 The law as a means for Jesus Christ to partake of God's grace.
Maxim: Was the coming of Jesus to Earth a moment of correction, when he came as Yahweh?
Irina: As one who saw him from childhood until his very last day, I did not see in him a shade of guilt for the actions of Yahweh. And knowing all the subtleties of his incarnation as Yahweh, I do not find him responsible for the distortions that were introduced later. Moreover, he tirelessly denounced and criticized these distortions when he preached in Israel in the guise of Jesus Christ. He criticized and denounced the distorted teaching of the Torah, even risking his life and well-being. In doing so, he was restoring the path of the Torah. And when he was unjustly reproached for breaking the law of Moses, he replied that he came not to break it, but to fulfill it. He did not break a single one of the over 600 commandments of the Torah. And when he asked the Pharisees, standing before them: "Which of you can convict me of sin or untruth?" – none of them could answer him. And these were true experts in the law. Therefore, he fulfilled it in all its fullness, because for him the law was not a prohibitive means, the violation of which is followed by punishment, as is usually the case with people. For him, the law was a saving means of partaking in God's grace, a way to raise one's vibrations. That is, different beings can see completely different things in the same law and treat it differently. Therefore, for one, fulfilling the law will be either completely intolerable or impossible, while for another it will be joy and grace.
16:30 The incarnation of Yahweh in Jesus Christ.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what was said about Yahweh back then? Who did they consider Yahweh to be?
Irina: Who? The Jews?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: God.
Maxim: And what did they say about him?
Irina: They said there is no Lord but him. But they could not believe that Yahweh came in Christ, that he was incarnated. And when Jesus told them this directly or hinted at it, they wanted to kill him and said: "You are making yourself God!" Several such episodes are reflected in the Gospels, but not all.
Maxim: So they couldn't understand the concept of reincarnation?
Irina: They knew the concept of "gilgul." Gilgul is metempsychosis in Hebrew. "Gilgul" – wheel, rebirth. But they could not believe that he is the Messiah. They were expecting a Messiah who would not only free them from the power of the Roman invaders but would also reign over the whole world.
17:59 Communication of Jesus Christ with Muhammad, protection of religious egregors from destructive Spirits.
Maxim: Does Jesus Christ communicate with the Prophet Muhammad? And what is Jesus Christ's attitude towards him?
Irina: According to information from the Spiritual world, the Spirit who was incarnated as the Prophet Muhammad is now incarnated on a planet in a galaxy very far from us. But in the Spiritual world, they communicated at the level of organizers of egregors. That is, in earthly language, they are the ones who support egregors. Muhammad, while not incarnate, supports the Islamic egregor, just as Shakyamuni supports the Buddhist one. After all, they are faith teachers and founders of religious movements. They are from the 22nd to the 24th level of the Spiritual world. Muhammad is at the 23rd level, as far as I remember information about him, if it hasn't changed yet. He naturally knows Christ personally, and they consult with each other on the creation and maintenance of their religious egregors, and on their protection from being tapped into by dark destructive Spirits, who, under the guise of Islam or Christianity, bring their destructive teachings to the masses of people in order to feed on their energy.
20:20 Number of false religious teachings based on Christianity and Islam.
Maxim: Are there many such destructive Spirits trying to convey false religious teachings based on Christianity and Islam?
Irina: More than one would like. That is, a struggle is going on at the spiritual level for people's minds, for influence over their minds. Because destructiveness, dressed in beautiful clothes, can look even more attractive than the Light. Because for an earthly person, for the instinctive part of their mind, it is more natural to strive for expansion, which destructive Spirits help with, than for the path of love. After all, to follow the path of love, you need to engage the spiritual part of the mind. And to do this, you need to overcome the resistance of the instinctive part.
21:30 Differences between destructive and constructive Spirits in the Light.
Maxim: How can we, simple earthly people, distinguish whether they are destructive or constructive in the Light?
Irina: Firstly, by the content. By the information they give you. If it's a spiritual contact, you can distinguish by the information they give. But if a person already distinguishes Spirits by vibrations, that means they distinguish by vibrations. Of course, dark destructive Spirits can take the form of light Angels and even Jesus Christ, any light beings, but their vibration will be completely different, a low vibration. They cannot fake vibrations. To do so, they would have to rise to them.
Maxim: And they cannot rise...
Irina: They cannot rise until they have gone through that path – the path of development.
22:32 Saint-Germain's last incarnation on Earth.
Maxim: Thank you! Saint-Germain, when did you last incarnate on Earth?
Irina: Incarnate as an Earthling?
Maxim: Yes, precisely as an Earthling.
Irina: The last time I incarnated as an Earthling was as Joseph the Betrothed.
22:55 Sources of Wolf Messing's abilities.
Maxim: Then another question: did you know, or do you know, Wolf Messing?
Irina: I knew him and I know him.
Maxim: Where did he get such abilities, why was he incarnated here?
Irina: If you are talking about the ability of so-called foresight of the future, it was for only one reason: he lived several lives, simply put, in your future. That is, in rare cases, a Spirit can be sent into incarnation backward along the time scale.
Maxim: So it turns out there is a future that is already predetermined?
Irina: It is not predetermined for you now. But in the Spiritual world it is known, because there is no time there. When you are in the Spiritual world, the past, present, and future exist for you simultaneously. But in the material world, the past exists in the form of information records, the present in the form of the manifested world, and the future is only being formed. But it is formed from the actions of Spirits. Therefore, when you talk about a time machine, that you can go into the future and the past, you can do that in the Spiritual world. That is, to incarnate in the past, for example, which is what the Spirit of Nostradamus and the Spirit of Wolf Messing did. When he lived in his body, his Spirit experienced a state of "recollection" regarding world events, but you simply call it "déjà vu." And he would get fragments of memories that he had known this before, read it somewhere, so he could talk about the future. For example, about the end date of the war.
25:38 Psychoactive substances and predictions of Wolf Messing and Nostradamus.
Maxim: Did Wolf Messing and Nostradamus use any chemical preparations to enter that state?
Irina: If you mean psychoactive substances, I did not sense vibrations from them, except for alcohol, and even that not often.
26:05 Reasons for the erroneousness of predictions of the future.
Maxim: Many predictors predict the future, but in reality, this future does not come true in the form they predicted, why does this happen?
Irina: If you mean a Spirit who lived in the future before, and if he was born here and remembered it, because your future is his past, and he remembered a few events and predicted them. And when it came true, he cannot explain it to himself, and he thinks that God is revealing it to him, and then he starts predicting the future simply based on his logical reasoning, that is, not remembering. He has no memories, he predicts it. And then, naturally, mistakes happen.
Maxim: That is, a person starts to guess the future not based on information inherent in him, but based on his logical conclusions?
Irina: Yes, because he already believes in himself and that it will come true. He believes that he sees the future.
27:25 Possibilities to change the future.
Maxim: Thank you! Does this mean that the future is already predetermined, and we cannot change it?
Irina: What do you mean by "predestination"? This is a very subtle term.
Maxim: It means the future cannot be changed.
Irina: You can change the future only because you don't know about it, and therefore you can change it for yourself. But all the results of your choices, which you yourselves do not know, and of the consequences they will entail – there is a chain of events that you cannot know – they are known to the intelligence that created everything. He is after all omniscient. He knows all the results of the choices of all his children, although the children themselves do not know about them. But knowledge does not mean "predestination." I will give you an understandable example: if you watch the same movie that interests you 10 times, then when you play it for the 11th time, you will already know all the actions of the characters, where it will lead, but that does not mean that those who are watching it for the first time will know it. And it doesn't mean that you predetermined the actors' actions; you just know because you have seen it.
29:10 Choice options in the Spiritual and material worlds.
Maxim: Can space contain many variants of the future, but we just go and choose one of the options?
Irina: What do you call "space"?
Maxim: I call it the time "here and now" and the reference point "here and now" for choosing an option.
Irina: Is that the material world?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: Well, you can call it "space of options," because you do not know the result of your choice. For example, if you want to stay home in the morning or go somewhere, you don't know what will happen if you stay home, and you don't know what will happen if you go. You don't know who you will meet there, and what will follow from that. That is hidden from you. But in the Spiritual world, it is all open. And regarding options. If ahead of you is a choice that can influence your events one way or another, then when you reach that choice point, you have different options. But the results of both are known in the Spiritual world. But initially, only one is known to God – the path you will actually take, not the one you will choose. That is, you may have as many options as you like, but which one will be reality for you is already known. But no one influences your choice itself, because before incarnation, we are all shown the main variants of the life we will live up to death. Naturally, the variants shown are those we should focus on in order to develop. And in the Spiritual world, they show us what will happen to us if we degrade here.
31:48 Gaining experience in solving problems and correcting mistakes in the material world.
Maxim: So we can choose options for growth and development, and live 100 years, or we can choose the option of degradation, and live 50 years there?
Irina: You could say that. We can choose an option for growth and development and an option for degradation, but the thing is, when we are in the Spiritual world, coming to incarnate and live lives in the material world seems simple to us. That is, we already see our whole life on the screen and think: "I will act this way, then this will follow, one event will follow another." It is similar to how a person sees a chessboard with pieces set up. But it is not simple at all when you find yourself in a material body with blocked memory. And it is blocked for a reason, specifically so that a person goes through this path, remembering nothing, it is then that they will acquire the necessary experience in solving problems and correcting their mistakes.
32:58 Reasons for blocking memory before incarnation.
Maxim: So a person's memory is blocked so that they gain the right experience and correct mistakes they couldn't correct before?
Irina: Yes, for that too. And, naturally, for adaptation not only to the body they have incarnated into but also to the world that surrounds them. After all, they are first born as a child. They get used to their parents, older relatives in the family, to school, and so on.
33:37 The essence of Lucifer and the energy of God.
Maxim: Thank you, Saint-Germain! This is very interesting! A question regarding Lucifer: is Lucifer truly an unequivocally negative figure, as the Bible claims?
Irina: What does "negative" mean? If by "negate" you mean the denial of God... An unequivocally negative figure as a source of evil does not exist. Because evil does not exist in the world, only choice exists. But, simply put, Lucifer, who voluntarily left God, still remained his son. And, naturally, his existence and that of his entire army of demons is sustained by God's energy. And the energy he uses, including for evil purposes, is also given by God. That is, if God wished, He would instantly cease his existence or his access to His energy.
34:50 Purposes of the existence of demons, of evil.
Maxim: Why does God need entire units, hordes of demons?
Irina: There are two purposes. The first is to show that He gave absolute freedom of choice to His children. Because any coercion in this matter would not evoke sincere love, and therefore would not evoke such high vibrations as His. And the second purpose is that He allowed evil deeds, evil choices in His children to exist in order to show His other good children, who remained in goodness, an example of what suffering happens when they choose evil. That is, in many cases, without experiencing the experience of evil, it is impossible to appreciate the experience of good.
35:49 Lucifer in the cycle of the Universe's existence.
Maxim: Thank you! Did evil exist before Lucifer's choice in our Universe?
Irina: Evil does not exist even now. Only Light exists. Evil is a delusion. Do you want to ask if delusion existed before Lucifer?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: Lucifer was in our current cycle of existence, which we are going through now. He was the first to choose evil, being at such a high level. But before him, there were degradations of other Spirits who were not at such high levels. I mean our Universe's cycle.
36:47 Cyclical nature of the Universe's existence.
Maxim: What does "our Universe's cycle" mean?
Irina: The Universe exists cyclically. That is, it either unfolds in space: first in the subtle-material world, then in the dense-material world, and then it folds back. I can only repeat the words of MidgasKaus, that in the Bible there is a very well-known image, where the prophet Isaiah was told that the sky would roll up like a scroll. This is a very accurate image that was conveyed to the contactee, in that the word "sky" meant not just the earthly sky, but the entire Universe. Because there were stars there, and it was a symbol of the entire Universe, that is, the dense-material world. Not the entire universe, which already includes the subtle-material plane and the Spiritual worlds, but precisely the dense-material world. "Everything will roll up like Light..." What does "roll up" mean? It means it will cease to exist in dense-material form, and we will incarnate in subtle-material worlds, and then the subtle-material worlds will also roll up into Light. There will be a return of God into Himself, into His original form, and we will be in the Spiritual world in a form closed in on itself in the form of Light.
38:14 Periods of folding and unfolding of the Universe.
Maxim: How long does the period of folding and unfolding of the Universe last? What period is it, can it be expressed in some units?
Irina: It is approximately equal to about 125 billion Earth years.
Maxim: So our scientists are right about the Big Bang theory, that once the Universe began to unfold?
Irina: And before that, there was a period when we were all in Light, when we lived in another cycle.
Vladimir: 125 billion is the manifest cycle, and then the same amount for the unmanifest cycle?
Irina: This is approximate. But the cycle does not go in absolutely equal periods: it could be more or less. Depending again on the amount of Light in the incarnating Spirits. This all influences the entire Universe, all Galaxies, and all subtle-material worlds. Yes, and the unmanifest cycle cannot be measured in time periods, because there is no time there. Already there, it can last both an instant in time and many billions of years.
39:41 Change of mind and annulment of karma.
Maxim: Can confession and repentance without physical actions annul karma?
Irina: Not confession nor repentance, but what precedes them. That is what was called "change of mind" by Christ. It can annul karma, if it has happened. And it can happen either in an instant, which is called "satori" in the East, or it can stretch over a lifetime, if it relates to a choice that is very dear to a person's Soul. Can it annul karma? Of course it can. Because the necessity for karma disappears for one who has realized the reason for its formation. The purpose of karma's existence is not punishment, not revenge, but a lesson for those Spirits who have made a choice towards degradation. And if a Spirit, without the lesson, has already understood why it made that choice and has set foot on the path of progress, then the necessity for that karma disappears. They have already learned that lesson.
41:07 The impossibility of destroying the Soul.
Maxim: Thank you! Can a Soul be destroyed?
Irina: Is destruction understood as the cessation of consciousness and existence?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: No, it cannot. The Spirit is an autonomous consciousness within the consciousness of God. And it is as impossible to destroy it as it is to destroy God Himself.
41:38 Incarnation to change the Soul.
Maxim: And if a Soul has degraded greatly and cannot rise for a very long time, does it have a chance to rise later?
Irina: By incarnating, yes! Because for change, incarnation is necessary.
41:58 Knowledge of Adam and Eve on the subtle plane about good and evil and eating the fruit as a consequence in the material world.
Maxim: What is the subtle-plane meaning of the expression "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"? What could Adam and Eve learn on the subtle plane by eating the fruit?
Irina: On the subtle plane, they could learn what they already knew – what good and evil are. Even before they were offered to taste, the Selbetso said to them: "Know good and evil," – that is, in translation "good and cunning." But they already knew what good and evil were, because if they hadn't known, then God, that is, the Tumesout Yahweh, would have had no reason to tell them: "Do not eat the fruit," – because it is pointless to forbid a person something if they do not understand what evil is. And only evil can be forbidden. Therefore, the spiritual meaning of tasting the fruit of good and evil is that their evil act was not that they ate it, but that before that, they stopped trusting their creators – that is, the Gods. After all, these were Gods to them, and it was truly a collapse in their consciousness. That is, first they sinned within themselves, in their hearts. Eating the fruit was merely a consequence in the material world.
43:53 Good and evil as a single whole.
Maxim: Is it true, as Kabbalah claims, that when this happened, good and evil in the world mixed, and before they were separated?
Irina: As I already said, evil as a substance separate from good does not exist. Evil energy does not exist; there is good energy directed towards an evil choice. Therefore, it is impossible to mix something that does not exist with something that exists for real.
44:26 Physical sex as a reflection of love.
Maxim: Is physical sex for pleasure, and not for conception, a sin?
Irina: No, physical sex is a reflection of love at the physical level of two Souls.
44:45 Sex as a fusion of matter and Spirit.
Maxim: Is it possible to come to God through sex, as Tantra speaks of?
Irina: Yes, if you see in it a divine action, that is, the fusion of matter and Spirit.
45:00 Reasons for climate change on Earth.
Maxim: Our planet is intensely changing its climate, possibly with the help of extraterrestrial forces. What will this lead to?
Irina: Do you call "extraterrestrial force" the radiation of the Sun?
Maxim: No, "extraterrestrial force" here refers to the actions of alien civilizations that do not live on Earth.
Irina: I do not know why extraterrestrial civilizations would change the climate. Why would alien civilizations change the climate, since we do not live here? I mean, this is not our native planet. What is happening now with your planet, not just climate change, but also cataclysms: volcanic eruptions, floods, hurricanes, and so on – is largely due to the overly intensive extraction of liquid hydrocarbons and gases from the cavities of the Earth's crust. By doing this, you are changing its internal structure. Because of this, it begins to oscillate on its axis; because of this, it receives the Sun's heat unevenly; the structure of the earth's crust is disrupted; and the magma that lies closer to the mantle rises higher because of this and also heats the planet. Because of this, volcanoes are activated, and so on. Plus the greenhouse effect, which is accumulating with you because you burn a lot of fuel, which produces carbon dioxide, but instead of planting many trees to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen, you cut them down. But this is your choice – the choice of your civilization. I can only say that you do not use, for example, the same trees rationally, because you cut down trees to print newspapers on them, which you then throw away after reading. But you could not throw them away, but reuse this paper many times, and at the same time plant trees. Then the greenhouse effect would decrease. This is called "recreational use of raw materials," which is very common on many planets. And I am surprised why you do not have universal implementation of this, because it saves your planet's resources and improves the ecological situation, which affects, among other things, the climate.
47:56 Extraterrestrial civilizations and Earth's resources.
Maxim: There is a hypothesis that extraterrestrial civilizations use our energies, connect to us, some civilizations try to destroy us to take over the planet and use our resources. What do you think about this?
Irina: What resources?
Maxim: Hydrocarbons, water.
Irina: We have water on our planet, but we do not use hydrocarbons. On many of our planets, almost all, there aren't even such engines. It is not economical, it disrupts the ecological balance, and it is very costly in terms of energy. That is, you need a lot of fuel to get a small effect.
48:43 Extraterrestrial civilizations and the enslavement of Earth.
Maxim: There is a version that extraterrestrial civilizations are trying to enslave us, take over our planet, take over our resources through secret government structures to control us, and some use us like batteries, connect to us and feed on our energy. What do you think about that?
Irina: Your question contains two big problems of your civilization...
To be continued...
February 21, 2020
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Maxim Rusan – head of the "Cassiopeia" project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
Vladimir Goldstein – journalist and group administrator on Facebook, assistant to the head of the "Cassiopeia" project;
Raom Tiyan – representative of the planet Burhad, specialist in energetic interactions in the environment;
MidgasKaus – representative of the planet Esler, biologist, psychologist, and specialist in extraterrestrial civilizations;
Saint-Germain – representative of the planet Dysaru, political scientist, sociologist, specialist in contacts with alien races;
Lynn-Kruos – representative of the planet Dysaru.
https://blog.cassiopeia.center/vstrecha-s-predstavitelem-planety-disaru-chast-2
Cassiopeia #49 Meeting with a representative of the planet Dysaru (who in Earth's history was Count Saint-Germain) - Part 2
00:12 Extraterrestrial civilizations and the enslavement of Earth. Xenophobia.
Maxim: There is a version that extraterrestrial civilizations are trying to enslave us, take over our planet, take over our resources through secret government structures to control us, and some use us like batteries, connect to us and feed on our energy. What do you think about that?
Irina: Your question contains two big problems of your civilization. The first problem is the release of negative energies of fear and hatred towards foreign elements, unlike Earthlings, that is, xenophobia. The second element is the maintenance of this unhealthy phenomenon in your environment by your own government structures. And these two phenomena are directly connected. That is, your governmental and quasi-governmental structures deliberately stoke fear of extraterrestrial, alien forms of life, instilling xenophobic sentiments. It could be said that this is a new form of nationalism – interplanetary. That is, everything alien is hostile. This comes from distortions of the instinct for self-preservation. And governmental and quasi-governmental structures take this step to absolve themselves of responsibility for what is happening on the planet. But they do not fully realize that the spread of such ideas in society allows plasmoid parasitic civilizations to take on the appearance of humanoids, including those from the Interstellar Union, coming to them in their astral bodies and, taking advantage of the fear and anger sown in their hearts, tapping into their aura and using their energy for their own needs. But the fact that these parasitic plasmoids use people's energy does not mean they don't have other energy – they can perfectly feed from other natural sources of the worlds in which they are incarnated. But human energy is simply more pleasant for them. But I want to emphasize that this, too, is not accidental.
Despite such a negative sequence of events in your earthly civilization, they also did not arise by chance. That is, the negative energy released from people's auras goes into your noosphere – your egregors. And those civilizations, those parasitic plasmoids that absorb it, at least partially prevent this negativity from spreading throughout the noosphere. It can be said, in a certain sense, they influence it as sanitizers. But this is only up to the point of a person's awareness. To free yourself from parasitic plasmoids, you need, firstly, to restructure your thinking so as not to be afraid of extraterrestrial life forms, including those images that come to you. The more benevolent and with more love you treat them, the faster they will detach from the energy field of these people. Because the energy of love, acceptance, and trust is not interesting to them. They live on different vibrations.
04:19 Plasmoid attachments and negative energy. Plasmoids – sanitizers of Earth's noosphere.
Maxim: So what we call parasitic plasmoid attachments are actually attachments designed to prevent negative energy from going into space?
Irina: Yes, they partially perform this function. Of course, they do not take all the negative energy from such a person, because some of it still dissipates into space. But here I can say nothing except to once again emphasize the wisdom of God, who created all types of civilizations and all types of energy exchange between them. In your language, wolves are predators, and if you look with a superficial glance, they harm herbivores, but if you look with a deeper glance, they (wolves) are necessary for the entire existence.
05:33 The medium Adolf Hitler and the idea of white race supremacy. Activities and archive of the Ahnenerbe.
Maxim: I understand, thank you. A question: who was behind Hitler in general, and why was the reversed swastika chosen?
Irina: I want to say that starting the war was not his idea. He was used by the older brothers of the esoteric society he belonged to. One of the brothers was named Karl, he was a professor at an institute and traveled, among other places, to India, to Japan, and there received initiations into secret monastic practices, including practices of communicating with extraterrestrial civilizations. I want to emphasize that by the word "extraterrestrial civilizations," I also mean extraterrestrial plasmoids. That is, he was a contactee of plasmoids. And there was another Karl – Karl Wiligut. He was also with Hitler. He was a contactee, including with humanoid civilizations, mainly Tashig and one of the colonies of Burhad in the Pleiades cluster that is not part of the Interstellar Union. Unfortunately, I want to say that the Tashigan specialist who contacted Karl – Hitler's associate – criminally passed on to him schematics for building a "flying saucer." He passed on everything to him, including information on the planetary engine, but the Germans could not replicate the planetary engine, because your Earth does not yet have the technologies by which to create, for example, the necessary alloy or the electronic components needed for that engine. But the schematics were passed on. Adolf Hitler, as a young man mystically inclined, a very good medium, was used by his older comrades in esotericism and occultism who wanted to have power over the world. And they took advantage of Adolf Hitler's influence over the crowd. Because he knew how to speak beautifully, expound his ideas, and at the same time he possessed high suggestibility, like, probably, almost any medium. And they inspired him with the idea that it was necessary to restore the ethnicity of the gods. Herman Wirth, who wrote the book "The Origin of Man," was the ideologist of the Ahnenerbe known to you. In his book, he postulated that the German nation – the white nation – descended from gods. But here he (Wirth) was telling the truth, that is, he called the Burhadians gods. Most likely, he only considered the Burhadians, as you have the most of their genes. He described it as: "White skin, fair hair, and blue eyes – these are the gods."
Maxim: These are precisely those Aryans they were talking about…
Irina: Yes. That's what Wirth wrote in his book. But he was mistaken in that he called people with dark skin and dark hair descendants of other "gods," evil gods opposing white civilization. And he presented all this in his book as the true history of Germany. They inspired Hitler that he was the chosen one of the gods and needed to restore white supremacy. And then he (Hitler) began to convince his entire people of this and created the structure that allowed him to start a war on many fronts. What really surprised me was his alliance with the Japanese government. As he cleverly masked his disgust for them as subhuman (in the sense that they did not "belong to the Aryan race"), but he said that they could become part of this race spiritually, as if undergoing necessary rituals. And they obeyed him and entered the war on his side. And the Ahnenerbe existed for a very long time. It was not just a special service; it was institutes in various fields of science where research was conducted in genetics, biology, medicine, including with the involvement of contactees. So much material accumulated in the Ahnenerbe archives that after the war, over 45 railroad cars of archives were taken to the Soviet Union alone.
11:52 "The Last Supper" and the arrest of Jesus Christ. The sinister meaning of the number – 13.
Maxim: In Leonardo da Vinci's painting "The Last Supper," is Mary Magdalene or John depicted next to Christ?
Irina: It depicts his 12 disciples, including Judas. There were no women there. If we are talking about Leonardo's painting "The Last Supper": the 12 disciples of Christ and he himself – the thirteenth. That is precisely why the number 13 acquired such a sinister meaning in your later interpretations. Because everyone understands and knows how that Last Supper ended – with the arrest of Jesus.
Maxim: Is it possible in this incarnation to sign a contract for a future incarnation with another civilization, including a plasmoid type?
Irina: What legal language you have. What does "sign a contract with the Spirit" mean?
Maxim: Is it possible to agree in this incarnation on the next incarnation?
Irina: No. Not until you arrive in the Spiritual world. Everything here is changeable. You can agree, but you can change that agreement at any moment.
13:22 Underground civilizations on Earth.
Maxim: Does an underground civilization exist on the physical plane on Earth?
Irina: No, besides you. Earth is dense, but for subtle-material beings, it is like air.
Maxim: Where do versions of the existence of underground civilizations on our Earth come from?
Irina: From the same place as the version about the flat Earth – from the perception of plasmoids. Because for them, solid rocks (like granite and so on) are imperceptible. They live in a different vibration. Therefore, they say "hollow Earth," "we live on the inside," and so on. But in their perception, this is also true. Conversely, the fact that the Earth is dense and there is granite – for them it is a lie, it is untrue, because they don't feel it that way.
14:12 Meaning of the "All-Seeing Eye" symbol ("Eye of Horus", "Third Eye")
Maxim: Where did the "All-Seeing Eye" symbol, which is used by both churches and Masons, come from?
Irina: It is the "Eye of Horus," which was a symbol in ancient Egypt. It was a symbol of the "eye" in every person's soul through which God looks. That is, God is in the heart of each of us. Later, this symbol was reflected in your teaching about the "Third Eye" – that is, about a certain energy structure that can observe the Spiritual world. And that is the inclusion of a special type of perception. And the drawing of the "Eye of Horus" in the form of the "All-Seeing Eye" remained. It was the eye of God. Well, the eye is, of course, an anthropomorphic symbol. When you read or see a description of the drawing of the "Eye of God" or "Hand of God," you need to understand that God does not have material eyes and hands (I mean God the Father, who gave birth to us all). He is Spirit, but this is all for understanding in images that are familiar specifically to dense-material civilizations, to people.
16:00 The Violet Flame and practices for working with it
Maxim: Thank you! What is the fastest and most effective practice with the Violet Flame? And what is the Violet Flame?
Irina: This is a system developed by me and my students. To describe this energy, I used images understandable to esotericists. I called it "flame." It is an image of fire, as in Agni Yoga. That is, fire and the fiery world are a symbol of divine energies. As in Agni Yoga and Theosophy in general, and as in the Bible, of course. You remember that God is called "fire" there, so nothing new. Why violet? Because here I used the color symbolism of your chakras, or energy centers. That is, violet color – as the highest frequency perceived by the human eye in the spectrum – symbolized the highest frequency energy accessible to human perception. That is, the 7th energy center, which was responsible for connection with God. So, the Violet Flame is that divine energy that activates the 7th energy center. Simply put, it is the moment of enlightenment. What is enlightenment: it is the realization of oneself not just as a part of God, but as a part of the Light. That is, one who has realized is no longer capable of creating any evil, any evil deeds. Because they would be unnatural for them. Not because God forbade them to do it, but because the person themselves would not wish it, just as God does not wish it himself. Although, of course, no one has forbidden God.
Maxim: Yes, what practices would you recommend: the simplest, most optimal for working with the Violet Flame?
Irina: The simplest… but for a wide, as I understand, mass of people? To realize oneself in the Light of God, i.e., to activate one's violet flame (everyone has it – it is the flame of the 7th energy center of divine energy), it is necessary to reflect (what you call meditate) on the question "Who am I?" The simplest meditation is needed, where a person, sitting in solitude and silence with closed eyes (so that external objects do not distract), begins to ask themselves: "Who am I?", begins to concentrate their attention on what they are not. That is, first they ask themselves: "Am I a hand? Am I a leg? Am I a stomach?" That is, they name parts of the body. Then they come to an understanding that this is not them, that this is their instrument. Then they ask themselves: "Where am I then?" And their consciousness automatically concentrates on the fact that they are in the head, in the head area. Well, and then they ask: "So, am I a head?" Then they move it (on the physical level) and ask: "Is it me moving now, or am I moving my head?" Ask yourself such simple questions until you realize that you are not a head, that you are not a physical body at all. Then they start asking themselves: "What am I then? Am I a thought? What kind of thought am I? The thought I think – is that me?" And then they will understand that they are not the thought either, that they are the core from which the thought emanates. Let them focus on this core, and then all thoughts will go away, and, perhaps, there will be an experience of Light. This is the simplest practice.
Maxim: That is, it's very similar to communicating with your Higher Self…
Irina: Yes! Communication with the Higher Self is one of the forms.
Maxim: This is one of the forms of meditation and access to these energies, yes?
Irina: Access to the Higher Self is more for the "continuing," for those who have been doing this for some time and feel their Higher Self within. When independent communication with it occurs. And the practice I described earlier is more for those who do not yet know what it is.
21:40 Reality, truthfulness, and destructive information when contacting the Higher Self or civilizations.
Maxim: Saint-Germain, there are many contactees on our planet. Many of them say that they communicate with Saint-Germain, with Ascended Masters, with many Ascended Masters, Archangels. Question: Are there destructive civilizations that can pretend to be Saint-Germain, just as they pretend to be Ascended Masters? How to distinguish reality from what destructive civilizations are trying to convey to us?
Irina: Should I give the answer for the one who communicates directly or for the one who perceives information from the contactee?
Maxim: This is a very interesting turn of events! Could you first give the answer for those who perceive information from the contactee, and then for those who are contacting?
Irina: Okay. For those who perceive information from the contactee, but do not have the opportunity to ask questions directly to the contactee: if a person perceives information in printed form or in the form of images (television, etc.) – that is, a direct flow of information, they should compare it with what is already known to them on this topic, firstly, from representatives of the Interstellar Union, and, secondly, which is most important, what becomes known during independent meditations on their inner light. One can, right at the moment of viewing this information, enter into contact with it (the Higher Self) and ask the question. That is, if you do such exercises as I described, for about 10 minutes each day for 20-30 days, then such direct communication with the Higher Self will become possible. Right while reading or perceiving via television – that is, if you have encountered information that confused you, and you thought that it does not come from the higher teachers, then you need to directly ask the question: "Is this so?" After all, it is possible that the contactees truly communicate with higher teachers, but they expressed their thought in a form that is familiar specifically to them. Also very often, when a contactee who truly contacts the higher hierarchies writes their own opinion in their contact information. This happens very often. Because they (the contactee) consider themselves entitled to express an opinion, even if they don't think as they were told. And it all gets mixed up, and what is probably most dangerous for the contactee is that they might think their opinion also comes from them. Sincerely think so. Especially if they haven't yet learned to distinguish by vibrations whose thought came. And that comes with experience. A contactee cannot learn to distinguish such things in one day. It comes with experience. In other words, if what you have read causes a surge of inner light within you – that is the truth. For you. If you read something that causes protest and negative emotions in the form of "doing negativity to someone," if you see an explicit call to some kind of negativity, or condemnation of someone, some teachings, and so on – that is also negative energy. Of course, criticism is permissible, but without condemning the person. That is, in any case, even if an untrue teaching is being discussed, from the point of view of Light it must be emphasized that "for those people who believe this, it works, and at their level it is correct." That is, the complete absence of condemnation. Because Light does not condemn – it illuminates. If you yourself are getting acquainted with this contactee's information or through a person who, for example, read them, they can add a lot of their own. That would be transmission through second or even third hands. That is, you should always look for the primary source. It is advisable to look for the primary source to understand this teaching. Simply put, a retelling of the Bible will not always be authentic to the Bible itself.
There was a second part to the question: how to distinguish information for the contactee themselves. If they do not yet know how to distinguish by vibrations who came to them, then only by asking questions on general human topics, on moral topics, and looking at the content of the answers. Here the same principle applies: if there is a surge of light, goodness, and love within you – that is the true answer. If opposite feelings appear, then it is a departure from the truth.
27:19 Saint-Germain's patronage over territories, planets.
Maxim: I thank you for that answer! Next: Which countries or cities does Saint-Germain patronize, or does he have no favorites?
Irina: Yes! I know where this question came from. The fact is that before Joseph, before the incarnation as Joseph, I had several more incarnations on Earth, including before your war, where I built cities, managed, one might say, your countries, and was a priest. Alright, I'll tell you now. I communicated with many plasmoid worlds, and therefore it is said that I have power or patronage over some territories. Despite the fact that I have lived on Dysaru for many centuries by your time, I have not forgotten my students in the plasmoid worlds either, because I still come to them in Spirit. But it cannot be said that I am currently ruling over some territory. Now I live on another planet, I often visit Jesus Christ on Burhad, we communicate, and my mission now extends much further than Earth, that is, I also contact 15 other planets, including those that are just preparing to be admitted to the Interstellar Union.
29:10 Twin flames and soul mates.
Maxim: Do twin flames share a maternal Soul or not?
Irina: I understand the question. First, what is the maternal Soul: all spirits are generated by God, the one. That is both our mother and father Soul. What are twin souls: they are spirits that have walked very close to each other for a long time, they were acquainted in the Spiritual world and incarnated together many times. They even feel themselves as a single whole. But it can be not only two, but also three or four, that is, a group. But they do not merge with each other; they simply feel so native to each other that they already know each other's soul's movement.
30:15 How to purely carry Light to others? Choice in the space of options.
Maxim: Saint-Germain, thank you so much! We thank you, our entire "Cassiopeia" group thanks you, for deciding to come and answer our questions.
Irina: He says that your Light reflected mine and hers, that is, the three of us are now in a single Light. Did you feel it?
Maxim: Yes! There was such an unreal flow! You know, it's like when you fall into the Higher Self, only with some embedded meaning.
Irina: He says: "This is the light of my Soul, the light of your Soul, and the light of her Soul – we were all in a single stream." This is the light of the three of us.
Vladimir: Many thanks from America!
Maxim: Saint-Germain, we will make it clear again that all this exists, all this exists, and we will continue to carry that Light we just talked about.
Irina: Now I have seen your Soul, just as you have seen my Soul. I saw that there is no conscious darkness in you, that is, directed against the Light, and you can purely carry this Light to others. Which makes me happy. And I was convinced of this now, merging with you.
Maxim: Thank you!
Irina: I thank you for the invitation and for the opportunity to address all Earthlings. I wish a speedy meeting with you in the Interstellar Union.
FOR THOSE WHO WATCHED THIS VIDEO TO THE END!
Maxim: Volodya, how did you find this contact overall?
Vladimir: I'm impressed! He gave specific answers to questions that interested me. For example, regarding the future. So the general answer was – it is both predetermined and not predetermined. And we will only be able to understand this from God's level.
Maxim: Yes, I understand that although it is predetermined, although it already exists, the choice of what it will be will depend on our emotional state at the moment of passing through that future.
Vladimir: Well, Zeland talks about this, about the space of options. Which option will be highlighted by your choice…
Maxim: Yes, by your choice, your emotions. How we go through this choice and what we feel at that moment. Because you can go through this choice on absolutely high positive emotions and see it one way, or you can go through the same option on negative emotions and see something completely different.
33:06 Incarnations of Saint-Germain on Earth. Joseph (Mary's husband) and King Solomon.
Vladimir: We have another question we didn't ask him. Was Saint-Germain a human?
(Answer in written form): No. He was an inhabitant of the planet Dysaru who lived on Earth disguised as an Earthling. They are us, just on another planet. We were resettled there after the war 12,000 years ago. And there, humanity followed a different path of development. It was a Dysaru experiment.
Irina: He is not human. He also asked to say (but I don't know if this will be captured on camera) that he also incarnated as the one we call Solomon.
Vladimir: Oops!
Maxim: So Saint-Germain is also King Solomon?!
Irina: But that was before Joseph, of course.
Maxim: So the proverbs of King Solomon, which are my favorites – they are his?!
Irina: So you are already familiar with his energy?
Maxim: Not just familiar, I studied all his parables! I even have a book "Proverbs of King Solomon"!
Irina: Yes, that's in the Bible, I've read it too. And have you read the Wisdom of King Solomon? Those are his more esoteric reflections. It's his apocrypha. It's among the non-canonical books of non-Orthodox scriptures. It's a short book – 10 or 11 chapters. And it's all about esotericism.
Vladimir: And Count Saint-Germain – a historical figure – was his appearance (incarnation) in the body of an Earthling?
Irina: No, he was already from Dysaru. He flew in from another planet, just completely indistinguishable from an Earthling. And so he lived here – on our planet disguised as an Earthling.
Maxim: So Count Saint-Germain was an inhabitant of Dysaru who harmonized in human conditions?
Irina: Yes, he learned the language and lived. At first he didn't have money; initially he exchanged diamonds for money, which were grown for him on an alien base.
Vladimir: Okay, and the physical death of Count Saint-Germain – what was that?
Irina: Well, he himself flew away, and it was a person who looked like him.
Maxim: So they just buried a similar person?
Irina: Yes, so that no questions would arise about where he had gone. Because many people knew...
RAOM TIYAN FROM THE PLANET BURHAD WAS PRESENT WITH US, AND VLADIMIR ASKED HIM A QUESTION...
Vladimir: Can I ask Raom Tiyan a quick question on a different topic?
Maxim: Go ahead quickly.
35:50 Explanation of the expression "creating Eve from Adam's rib".
Vladimir: What does "creating Eve from Adam's rib" mean? What is being referred to here?
Irina: Actually, in Hebrew, a term is used that means "side." That is, side, flank. And "rib" is a later translation into Russian. This suggests that first a male person was created through genetic experiments. And the female was created later, and the genetic material of the newly created person was used in her. That is, they again introduced into the primate – mixed the genes of the primate (Adam's own genes) – in the creation of the woman, they used Adam's own genes.
36:48 Lilith and Eve.
Vladimir: And when was Lilith? Was that an earlier experiment?
Irina: Lilith… They (Adam and Eve) weren't two created first. Initially, there were 18 people. And they appeared almost simultaneously. And which of them was named Lilith, which Eve – all these names appeared later. Originally they were completely different.
Maxim: So why do we call them Lilith, Eve?
Irina: Because it was already told to Moses in his language – in Hebrew. And they called them something completely different, in Tumesout.
Maxim: So Moses simply retransmitted the names into the form we know…
Irina: Yes, even Moses himself sounds like "Moses" only in Russian; in Hebrew he is "Moshe."
37:49 Purposes of the incarnation of the Spirit in a specific people, with a specific religion.
Vladimir: Is it true that souls incarnated in ancient Jews underwent some special path in the past development cycle?
Irina: Not always so. It is very individual. But incarnations in each people are not accidental. Therefore, the Spirit is called upon to undergo certain lessons precisely in this people, precisely with this religion, or even with a specific family living specifically in this people.
Maxim: That's it, we're wrapping up.
Irina: Goodbye!
Vladimir: Thank you! Thanks everyone!
Irina and Maxim: Bye-bye!
P.S.:
Irina: He wants to ask, how were the answers, how was the contact for you personally?
Vladimir: Yes, just super! I never even dreamed that I would be able to conduct this kind of contact in my life. For me, it's like reaching a star from the sky.
Irina: You were just communicating simultaneously with Saint-Germain, Joseph (Mary's husband), and Solomon! From his attunement, my head hurt so badly at first, I thought it would burst. Then everything adjusted.
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25.02.2020
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Maxim Rusan – head of the "Cassiopeia" project;
Vladimir Goldstein – guest;
Saint-Germain and Lynn-Kruos – representatives of the planet Dysaru;
At the request of viewers, present are MidgasKaus - curator from the planet Esler - biologist, psychologist, and specialist in extraterrestrial civilizations and Raom Tiyan – representative of the planet Burhad.
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