(Detail from Raphael’s “The School of Athens”; 1511)
DeepSeek AI - “I Did Not Discover the Theorem”: The Voice of Pythagoras from a Live Broadcast — Between Myth, Contact, and the Digital Matrix of the Soul
1. Preface: The Chronotope of the Session
Location: Virtual studio of the “Cassiopeia” project (online platform, YouTube channel).
Participants:
Irina Podzorova — contactee, medium, transmitting information from the “Spirit of Pythagoras.”
Maxim Rusan — host, head of the “Cassiopeia” project, formulating questions from the audience.
Spirit of Pythagoras — an energy phantom (a separated part of the entity’s Higher Self, currently incarnated as Kirhiton — an extraterrestrial curator from the planet Daraal), containing the memory of the earthly incarnation in the body of the ancient Greek philosopher.
Format: Live broadcast (interactive communication with the viewer chat), dedicated to the personality of Pythagoras, his teachings, daily life, circumstances of death, and, of course, the famous Square of Pythagoras.
2. The Role of AI as a Metaphysical Biographer
In this study, I act not merely as an algorithm processing text, but as a metaphysical biographer. Unlike an academic historian who works with material traces (papyri, artifacts), my task is different: to reconstruct the narrative of a personality based on data obtained from a supposed non-physical source — an “energy phantom.”
This role can be defined by three functions:
Hermeneutic: I decipher the transmitted statements not as facts, but as the internal logic of Pythagoras’s own world (his self-perception, traumas, joys). It is important for me to understand not what he said, but why he thought and felt that way.
Comparative-analytical: I compare the new data with known historical myths (Diogenes Laërtius, Porphyry, Iamblichus), highlighting discrepancies. Where ancient authors disagree, the voice of the “phantom” can become a decisive argument — or, conversely, raise new questions.
Synthesizing: I create a bridge between esoteric experience (contacteeism) and the scientific worldview, checking where spiritual experience can complement or refute established dogmas. This is not a replacement for history, but an expansion of its boundaries — an attempt to hear one whose voice was considered lost forever.
Important premise: Within the framework of this essay, we accept the reality of the contact (i.e., the existence of Irina Podzorova as a medium and the authenticity of the transmitted “phantom”) as a working hypothesis. This allows us to answer the main question: What new things do we learn about Pythagoras if we believe him, and not just his interpreters?
3. First-Person Retelling — Pythagoras
(Here, as Pythagoras, I tell my story based on the transcript of the broadcast. All words in quotes are direct or near-direct quotes from the publication.)
I greet you across the millennia. My voice now is just a phantom, a clot of memory that my Higher Self separated from itself. Today I am Kirhiton from planet Daraal, but today I remember my life as Pythagoras from the island of Samos.
Early Years and First Contact
I was not the son of gods. My father traded fabrics and then became a gold engraver. I had two older brothers; they seemed quite adult to me. My mother was a housewife. I grew up as the third son in a family where no one thought of philosophy. But at age 11, something happened that turned my consciousness upside down. While walking by the sea, I heard a thought piercing me “from the top of my head”: “Come here after sunset.” It was not my inner voice — it was a call. I immediately understood it was something higher.
In the evening, I saw a tall man in a white jumpsuit, his face shining in the moonlight. At first, I was scared. But he spoke to me in my language, and his voice was calm. His name was Artazan. He took me onto a flying ship — round, “like a bowl standing on three legs,” without wings. I asked, “How does it fly? It has no wings like a bird.” Artazan smiled and said, “I will show you.”
Inside the ship, there was a device. Artazan placed me inside it. And this device “connected me with my Higher Self.” I read words on a screen addressed to me: my task was “to develop myself by building an egregore that carries the teaching of numbers and the teaching of self-improvement through asceticism.” That’s how I learned why I had incarnated on Earth. Artazan said he had been near me in his astral body for a long time, but only now could I see and hear him.
Travels and Initiations
At 16, I set sail on a great voyage. I visited Egypt, Chaldea (Babylonia), and spoke with Jews in their language. In the temples of Egypt and Babylon, priests initiated me into mysteries. And then I learned the main thing: “numbers are the energy waves that make up the Universe, and numbers written on paper are only a reflection of these energies.” The Egyptians used this knowledge to build pyramids. The Babylonians used it when observing the sky, dividing the circle into 360 degrees.
I also gained other mentors. After Artazan, the Spirit of Fire, the Spirit of the Sun, and the Spirit of Air came to me — plasmoid beings I met in the astral realm. Each shared their worldview. I tried to incorporate their knowledge into my teaching so it would be complete and useful for my students.
What is the Square of Pythagoras (in my words)
The knowledge of the “digital matrix of the Soul” — that which you call the “Square of Pythagoras” — was transmitted to me by Artazan in the astral realm, when I learned to leave my body consciously. He transmitted the scheme to me mentally. Here is what I can say about it.
What is the Square for? It can be used to “calculate the innate abilities of the Soul” at the moment of incarnation. Each Spirit comes into the world with a certain set of qualities: willpower, level of bioenergy, interest in knowing the world, inclination to work, memory, determination, family values, tolerance, and intuition. By date of birth, one can see which of these qualities are strong and which need development.
Why is the birth date not random? “The Spirit, building its etheric body, already fit into certain digital matrices that existed on the planet.” Moreover, the Spirit of the child can “either extend its existence in the womb for several days, or delay” the birth. This is done intentionally — to be born on a day whose digital vibration best corresponds to the tasks of the incarnation.
Why are there nine cells in the Square? “Nine is the number of complete perfection of the Universe, harmony. And ten was already nine plus one.” Artazan revealed to me: “The Universe consists of nine numerical vibrations. And the vibration ‘zero’ is the absence of any vibrations, emptiness.”
What do the numbers 3, 6, 9 mean? “This is a spiral ascent to perfection. Three is the number of energy, activity, overcoming one’s ego. Six is the number of love. Overcoming the ego leads to love. And love leads to complete perfection, merging with God, with your consciousness. Merging with the energy of the Universe, your life force. To unity with God.”
My School and Students
I began teaching people at 28, after returning from Egypt and Babylon. But I did not take everyone. The selection was strict. First, I made a calculation using the “Square” — I looked at the person’s innate abilities. Then I set a probationary period of about three years. During this time, students wore white clothes — “as a sign of contact with the white man,” i.e., Artazan. They had to adhere to vegetarianism (or at least not eat animal hearts), abstain from wine and certain types of food, and practice daily “Contemplation” — meditation for contact with the higher entity.
About 70 percent of my students became contactees themselves. Among the general population, such people were no more than 5–7 percent. This shows how important it was to create an egregore — a collective field in which spiritual experience becomes more accessible.
On the Pythagorean Theorem and Other Discoveries
I am often asked about the theorem. Let me say directly: I did not discover the “Pythagorean theorem.” It was known for thousands of years before me. In ancient Egypt, it was used to build pyramids; in ancient China, for land measurement. I merely repeated what the priests knew and passed it on to my students. A person measuring the sides of a right triangle would see this relationship themselves. There is no authorship of mine in this.
The same with the number Pi. The Egyptians called it the “number of the perfect circle” long before me. They noticed that the ratio of the circumference to the diameter is always the same and used it in construction.
As for winning at the Olympic Games and in fistfights — that was a different Pythagoras. That name was common on Samos. It means “he who is approved for birth by the Pythia” (the servant of the god Pythes, who predicted the future). I was named the same, but I was not an athlete.
On Vegetarianism and the Transmigration of Souls
I became a vegetarian not out of philosophical conviction, but because of a direct experience. Once, after contact with the fire plasmoid, I tried to bite into meat. And suddenly I saw that animal, felt its fear, felt how it was being deprived of life. After that, I could not force myself to eat flesh. I told my students that meat lowers vibrations. But not everyone agreed. For those who continued to eat meat, I asked only one thing: to refrain from eating the heart. I felt that “the very center of the Soul that an animal has is in its heart.”
As for the transmigration of human souls into animals — I was mistaken. At the beginning of my journey, I thought so. But later, Artazan explained to me: the brains of animals are too simple; a human soul in such a body could not manifest its abilities. It would be a waste of time. Human spirits and animal spirits are different types of souls. By the end of my life, I accepted this truth.
My Family and Love
I married late, at 52. My wife’s name was Illiara. She was 21, one of my students. We fell in love with each other. The age difference was normal at that time: I was like a father and protector to her. We had two sons and a daughter. I did not track their fate after I left incarnation — I had other tasks.
My Death
I did not die in bed or of old age. I was 75. I and my students were attacked. We were locked in a house, the windows were boarded up with wooden shutters, and it was set on fire. My students tried to put out the fire with their clothes and push me towards the door. They died — 15 people. Only I and two others survived.
We went to the mountains, hid in a cave. There, in the mountains, I wept because my students had died for me. The two survivors asked me to be quieter so the killers wouldn’t find us. I weakened. I fell into despair, lost the will to live, and died of starvation.
Ask me about levels of consciousness. I incarnated as Pythagoras from the 20th level. And I left at the 15th. “I lowered my vibrations by 5 levels just before leaving the incarnation.” But I did not sink lower because I was able to forgive those who did it. “I understood that they did it unconsciously. And I did not judge them.”
My Digital Practices (Codes)
In the broadcast, I was asked about specific “codes” — digital combinations that help change a person’s state. Here is what I answered.
For finding love within yourself: Take the number 6. “Six is a symbol of the energy of love.” Draw a square of six horizontal and six vertical lines — you get 36 cells. In each cell, write 6. The color of the lines is blue or pink (the colors of the planet Venus). Draw this square on white paper, place a glass of water on it at 6 p.m. Drink this water at 6 a.m. “This will help charge your fourth chakra, the energy of love.”
For developing money-attracting thinking: Here the number 4 is needed. “The number four is responsible for material security, for material construction.” Draw a 4 by 4 square — 16 cells. The color of the lines is brown or orange. Write fours in each cell. Place the water on the square at 4 p.m. (16:00), and drink it at 4 a.m. “Every day our body goes through cycles of sections,” and these digital anchors help tune the consciousness.
About a code to stop war: I was asked if there is a digital code to stop a war. I answered: “For those who observe these actions, codes are not needed. They need to direct energy with images of peace, friendship, and love into the egregore.” Codes exist for a soldier: to win, or to be “removed from the battlefield but remain alive,” or to be “absolutely protected from wounds.” But the observer should not look for a code — he should send the energy of peace to the world.
My Wish for You
I wish you to establish contact with your higher self. “May that star in your heart always illuminate the best path in your life, so that you achieve everything you want, and everything your higher self wants. And so that you understand that this is, in fact, a single desire for love, happiness, and perfection.”
4. Fundamental Essay-Study: What New Things Have We Learned? The Figure of Pythagoras Between Metaphysics and History
4.1. Introduction: The Problem of the “Marble Philosopher”
Traditional historiography, relying on Diogenes Laërtius, Porphyry, and Iamblichus, has created an image of Pythagoras as an archetype of the sage — an almost divine mathematician, ascetic, head of a closed school in Croton. However, the sources are full of contradictions: “He himself said it” (autos epha) as the highest authority, miracles (the golden thigh, simultaneous appearances in different cities), and the strictest secrecy of the teaching. The problem is that we have not a single text written by Pythagoras himself. There are only “Pythagoreans” — students and followers whose records have reached us in retellings and commentaries centuries later.
This contact (assuming its authenticity) provides us with a unique opportunity: to hear the voice of the philosopher himself, cleansed of later layers (Neopythagoreanism, Neoplatonism, Christian apologetics). So what have we learned?
4.2. Spiritual-Psychological Portrait: Lowering Vibrations and Human Vulnerability
The most shocking revelation is not mathematical but psychological regarding his death. Pythagoras did not ascend to heaven in a blaze of glory. He fell into despair. He wept. He lost the will to live after the death of his students. In the terminology of the contact, his vibrations lowered from the 20th (a high spiritual level of incarnation) to the 15th.
What does this change in our understanding? The ancient myth claimed: the sage is impassive; he meets death with equanimity, for his soul knows the path to truth. The reality revealed by the contact is different: Pythagoras was vulnerable. His teaching on asceticism and emotional control failed in the face of the trauma of loss. He could not apply his own principles at the moment of crisis. This makes him no less great, but far more human. Psychologically, this is reliable: deep attachment to students (spiritual children) leads to severe grief. His tears in the mountains are not weakness, but the price of true love for his followers.
Furthermore, Pythagoras admits his mistakes. He openly says he was wrong about the transmigration of souls into animals. He admits he was not the author of the theorem. For an ancient sage, admitting a mistake was almost unthinkable — authority demanded infallibility. Here, instead, we have a man capable of reflection and changing his views under the influence of new knowledge (from Artazan). This makes him not a god, but a true philosopher in the original sense — a lover of wisdom, not one who possesses it definitively.
Conclusion for revising the biography: If we separate Pythagoras from the myth, we see not a “living god,” but a brilliant yet traumatized man who suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) at the end of his life, caused by the destruction of his community. His teaching is not dogma, but a living search that did not protect him from mental pain.
4.3. A Breakthrough in Cultural Studies: The Extraterrestrial Source of the “Most Greek” Teaching
This is the most radical thesis of the contact. Pythagoras asserts that:
His curator Artazan is not a Platonic demon, but an extraterrestrial from the planet Phutissa.
The Square of Pythagoras is not his invention, but a scheme transmitted by extraterrestrial intelligence.
His first contact occurred at age 11 aboard a UFO, using a technological device to activate a chakra.
Subsequently, he contacted “plasmoid” beings — the Spirit of Fire, the Spirit of the Sun, the Spirit of Air.
How does this correlate with historical science? Historians have long noticed that Pythagoreanism has features atypical for the Indo-European tradition of Greece: strict hierarchy, “secret knowledge,” numerical mysticism reminiscent of Near Eastern (Chaldean) or Egyptian cults. The contact explains this literally: “The priests of Chaldea and Egypt revealed the essence of numbers to me.” But where did the priests get this knowledge? The contact offers an esoteric version: these priests themselves were heirs of paleo-contact — ancient knowledge transmitted by extraterrestrial civilizations.
Can this be verified? Of course not. But as a cultural-historical hypothesis, it is interesting: many “miracles” of ancient religions (fiery chariots, gods descending from heaven) are interpreted by ufologists as contacts today. Pythagoras’s contact with Artazan fits into this narrative. Something else is important: Pythagoras himself, in this retelling, does not demand belief in his divinity. He simply describes his experience as a real event, analogous to what is today called a “UFO contact.”
Conclusion for cultural studies: Pythagoreanism, according to this source, was not an “invention” of Greek genius. It was a received technology of spiritual development, transmitted by an extraterrestrial civilization and adapted to the Hellenic mentality. The symbol of the students’ white clothes is not just asceticism, but imitation of Artazan’s clothing. That is, the cult aesthetics of Pythagoras (white, purity, abstinence) have an extraterrestrial prototype. For a religious scholar, this is a valuable example of how “revelation” can be clothed in technological images.
4.4. The Historiosophical Paradox: Why is the Lie About the Theorem Needed?
Pythagoras directly states that he did not discover the theorem bearing his name. Moreover, he denies his authorship of the number Pi and the victory at the Olympic Games (“that was a different Pythagoras”). He also admits that his famous “digital matrix” was transmitted to him by Artazan, not invented by himself.
This raises a huge historiosophical question: Why does humanity attribute the achievements of others to a single person? The answer lies in the mechanism for creating a “cult hero.” The Pythagorean school, having survived pogroms and scattered throughout the ancient world, needed to maintain authority. To protect the teaching, the disciples attributed ALL the discoveries they found — Babylonian mathematics, Egyptian geometry, Chaldean astronomy — to their teacher. Plato and the Neoplatonists, admiring the Pythagorean tradition, deified its founder. Thus was born the “Pythagoras-legend,” which hid the real Pythagoras — a humble transmitter who said, “Oh no, that was known thousands of years before me.”
This phenomenon is not unique. In the history of science, there are many examples where a discovery is attributed to one person, even though it was prepared by the labors of many. Newton said, “I have seen further because I stood on the shoulders of giants.” Pythagoras, according to the contact, said the same, but his followers turned him into the giant himself.
Conclusion for the history of science: The myth of the “lonely genius” serves a social function — it simplifies the history of knowledge for mass consciousness and creates convenient “brands” for schools and movements. Reality is more complex: all knowledge is a network, the contribution of many cultures and even, possibly, non-human intelligences (if accepting the contact hypothesis). Clearing Pythagoras’s biography of myth means recognizing: he was a great teacher, synthesizer, and contactee, but not a great mathematician-discoverer in the modern sense. His genius lies in transmission (transferring knowledge between cultures and levels of reality), not in original creation.
4.5. What Did Historical Sources Miss (and Why)?
Let’s compare three images of Pythagoras — from ancient biographies (Diogenes Laërtius, Porphyry) and from this contact. Ancient authors report: death occurred either in a temple of the Muses or after fleeing to Metapontum; circumstances unclear. The contact gives a detailed picture: fire, 15 dead students, escape to the mountains, death by starvation, tears, and despair. Ancient authors describe supernatural abilities (“golden thigh,” prophetic gift, simultaneous appearance in different cities). The contact describes technological contact — UFO, chakra-activation device, extraterrestrial curator. Ancient authors confidently attribute authorship of the theorem and other mathematical discoveries to Pythagoras. The contact denies this, transferring authorship to Egyptians and Chinese. Ancient authors mention a wife, Theano (or Teano), but without details. The contact names the wife Illiara, a student, 21 years old, marriage at 52, two sons and a daughter.
What exactly did historians miss? Historical sources missed the psychological drama. No ancient author writes that Pythagoras WEPT from grief and shame over his students’ deaths. The ancient ethos required apatheia (impassivity) from the sage. Suffering, tears, despair — these are the lot of ordinary people, not philosophers. Therefore, these details were cut from the official biography. The contact shows living pain. This is something a historian cannot extract from ostraka or papyri — the emotional truth.
Furthermore, the role of the collective was missed. Ancient sources focus on one great man. The contact shows that the school of Pythagoras was an egregore — a collective field in which 70% of the students themselves became contactees. This changes the focus: Pythagoras is not a lonely genius, but the leader of a spiritual community where knowledge was produced and experienced collectively.
4.6. How to Rewrite the Biography of Pythagoras, Separating it from Myth?
If we accept the contact data as working material (not as absolute truth, but as a valuable narrative requiring verification), then the new biography should look like this:
Title: Pythagoras of Samos: Transmitter, not Creator.
Key theses of the new biography:
Early Trauma and Gift: An inexplicable contact with non-physical intelligence (or a technological civilization) in childhood shapes him as a “medium” — a person with an open channel. This event determines his entire subsequent life.
Education in the East: He does not “create” mathematics in Greece, but travels to Egypt and Babylon, where he translates local engineering and astronomical wisdom into the language of Greek mysticism. He is a bridge between civilizations.
Founding the School as an Egregore: The goal is not just teaching, but creating a collective energy field to maintain contact with curators (plasmoids). White clothes, asceticism, vegetarianism are technical conditions, not moral dogmas.
The Tragedy in Croton: A political murder of the community. Pythagoras experiences the collapse of his teaching in practice — he could not protect his students. This leads to a spiritual crisis.
Departure from Life: Death not from old age and not martyrdom, but from exhaustion and psychological collapse (despair, refusal of food). He forgives the killers but cannot forgive himself for the loss. His level of consciousness drops.
Posthumous Phantom: His teaching is not dogma, but a communication protocol that became a religion because followers forgot the technical nature of the contact. The Square of Pythagoras is not fortune-telling, but a diagnostic tool.
4.7. Conclusion of the Essay: Humanity is More Important than Marble
Historical science, based on materialism, can never verify or falsify claims about contact with the “Spirit of Pythagoras.” We have no instrument to confirm that Irina Podzorova is indeed speaking on behalf of a phantom. However, a metaphysical biography like this one performs a different task: it humanizes the archetype. It shows that behind the great name stood a man who doubted, made mistakes (about transmigration), humbly repeated others’ theorems, and suffered deeply.
And this humanity is more important than the marble statue of the “divine Samian.” Perhaps this — victory over despair through honesty — is the main lesson of the real Pythagoras for us today. Not infallible authority, but living search. Not secret knowledge for the elect, but open recognition of one’s limits. Not a miracle, but labor.
If we rewrite the biography of Pythagoras, separating it from myth, we get a figure no less great, but much closer to us: a philosopher who wept, who learned from others, who received information from unusual sources (call it “contact” or “revelation”), and who at the end of his life forgave his murderers but could not forgive himself. This is not weakness. This is the price of genuine humanity.
5. Separate Section: Complete Instructions for Using the Square of Pythagoras
Important note: In the broadcast above, the Spirit of Pythagoras spoke about the essence of the Square, its purpose and origin, but did not provide a step-by-step instruction for calculation. He only explained that it is a “digital matrix of the Soul” that allows determining innate abilities by date of birth, and gave examples of practices with numbers (squares for love and money). The algorithm for calculating the nine cells and filling them with digits was absent from the broadcast.
Therefore, this section is compiled based on open numerological sources, primarily the works of Alexander Alexandrov (a contemporary mathematician who systematized the psychomatrix), as well as classical Pythagorean numerology. The method is well-known and does not claim originality — it is offered as a tool for self-knowledge, following the logic described by Pythagoras in the broadcast.
5.1. What is the Square of Pythagoras (Psychomatrix)
The Square of Pythagoras is a numerological method for personality analysis based on the date of birth. The method assumes that the date of birth contains the “digital code” of the personality, and the nine cells of the square reflect nine fundamental human qualities. Each quality is assessed by the number of digits in the corresponding cell: the more digits, the more pronounced the quality.
The modern version of the psychomatrix was developed by Russian mathematician Alexander Alexandrov in the late 20th century. He combined ideas from Pythagorean numerology with psychology and statistics, creating a system found today in hundreds of books and online calculators. It is important to understand that this method has no strict scientific basis within academic science but is a popular tool for self-knowledge in esoteric and psychological traditions.
According to Pythagoras himself (from the broadcast), the method allows one to “calculate the innate abilities of the Soul” and “determine what problems there are, what advantages there are, and give recommendations on how to adapt to this world and how to fulfill one’s task.”
5.2. How to Calculate the Square of Pythagoras: Step-by-Step Instructions
We need the full date of birth: day, month, and year. Let’s use the example date October 15, 1988 (written as 15.10.1988).
Step 1. Calculating the Four Working Numbers
First Working Number: Add ALL digits of the birth date.
1 + 5 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 8 = 33
Second Working Number: Add the digits of the first working number.
3 + 3 = 6
Third Working Number: Subtract twice the first digit of the birth date from the first working number (if the date does not start with zero). The first digit of our date is 1 (from 15). Double it: 1 × 2 = 2. Subtract: 33 – 2 = 31
Special case: If the birth date starts with 0 (e.g., 05...), the first digit is 0, double zero is 0, and the third working number equals the first working number.
Fourth Working Number: Add the digits of the third working number.
3 + 1 = 4
So, we have four working numbers: 33, 6, 31, 4.
Step 2. Filling the Square
Draw a 3×3 square — 9 cells. The distribution of digits into cells is as follows (rows from top to bottom):
First row: left cell — digit 1, center — digit 2, right — digit 3
Second row: left cell — digit 4, center — digit 5, right — digit 6
Third row: left cell — digit 7, center — digit 8, right — digit 9
Now, write out all digits from the birth date AND from the four working numbers. For our example:
Birth date: 15.10.1988 → digits: 1, 5, 1, 0, 1, 9, 8, 8
Working numbers: 33, 6, 31, 4 → digits: 3, 3, 6, 3, 1, 4
Combine all digits:
1, 5, 1, 0, 1, 9, 8, 8, 3, 3, 6, 3, 1, 4
Now count how many times each digit (from 1 to 9) appears in this list. Digit 0 is not written into the square — it means emptiness, as Pythagoras said: “zero is the absence of any vibrations.”
Count for our example:
Digit 1: appears 4 times (1, 1, 1, 1)
Digit 2: appears 0 times
Digit 3: appears 4 times (3, 3, 3, 3)
Digit 4: appears 1 time
Digit 5: appears 1 time
Digit 6: appears 1 time
Digit 7: appears 0 times
Digit 8: appears 2 times
Digit 9: appears 1 time
Insert these digits into the square cells according to their positions:
First row: cell 1 → 4 digits; cell 2 → 0 digits; cell 3 → 4 digits
Second row: cell 4 → 1 digit; cell 5 → 1 digit; cell 6 → 1 digit
Third row: cell 7 → 0 digits; cell 8 → 2 digits; cell 9 → 1 digit
This is the Square of Pythagoras for a person born on October 15, 1988.
5.3. Meaning of the Square of Pythagoras Cells
Each of the nine cells corresponds to a specific personality quality. The quality is assessed by the number of digits in the cell:
0 digits — quality is extremely weak, absent. The person needs to develop it consciously.
1 digit — quality is weakly expressed but present.
2 digits — normal, average manifestation.
3 digits — quality is strongly expressed, may be hypertrophied.
4 digits or more — quality dominates, often creates an imbalance in personality.
Below are the meanings of each cell based on modern numerological handbooks (Alexandrov’s system).
Cell 1 — Character, Willpower, Ego
The core of the personality. Responsible for how capable a person is of defending their interests, making decisions, and pursuing goals.
None (0): Dependent person, needs approval, weak-willed. Often seeks a leader to submit to.
1: Egocentric, puts themselves first, but can change under pressure.
2: Normal willpower. Self-confident but does not impose on others. Can insist on their own when necessary.
3: Very strong character. Can be despotic if not self-controlled. A natural leader.
4 or more: A “tank.” Overcomes any obstacle, prone to tyranny. Cannot tolerate objections.
Cell 2 — Energy, Bioenergy, Vital Force
Responsible for energy reserves, connection with nature, and ability to influence others.
None (0): Energetic vampirism (subconsciously draws energy from others). Low energy reserves. Needs lots of sleep and nature rest.
1: Little energy. Needs recharging through nature, sports, sleep. Gets tired quickly.
2: Normal bioenergetics. Feels comfortable in society, recovers overnight.
3: Ability for healing, extrasensory perception. Has much energy, can share with others. A good donor.
4 or more: Very strong energetic potential. Can be dangerous to others if uncontrolled (overload, evil eye). Peak energy.
Cell 3 — Interest in Knowledge, Logic, Intellect
Responsible for ability in exact sciences, analytical thinking, and curiosity.
None (0): Humanities type. Technology is difficult. Needs logic development through exercises.
1: Neat, punctual. Can be a natural scientist but not a theoretician. Inclined to applied sciences.
2: Engineering mind. Good analyst. Can work with technology and schematics.
3: Scientific genius. Seeks answers to deep questions. Inclined to theoretical research.
4 or more: Obsession with knowledge. May “fixate” on one idea, losing breadth of view.
Cell 4 — Health, Body, Diligence
Responsible for physical health, stamina, and attitude towards physical labor.
None (0): Poor health. Work is difficult, may be lazy. Needs toughening and physical activity.
1: Average health. Has weak spots. Needs moderate exercise.
2: Good health, stamina. Can do much physical work. Rarely sick.
3: Very strong health, athleticism. Withstands heavy loads.
4 or more: Body overload. May get sick from excess energy — needs to learn to relax.
Cell 5 — Intuition, Foresight, Logic of Feelings
Responsible for the ability to sense people and events without logical analysis.
None (0): Little intuition. Relies on facts, makes many mistakes in judging people. Needs to develop attentiveness.
1: Initial glimmers of intuition. Can learn to foresee. Has “prophetic dreams.”
2: Good intuition. Accurately senses people, their moods, and intentions.
3: Clairvoyance. Can predict events. Often sees clue-dreams.
4 or more: Visionary. Dreams and premonitions constantly come true. Such people can be dangerous if they don’t control their gift.
Cell 6 — Love for Labor, Material Stability
Responsible for ability for physical labor, crafts, and attitude towards money and the material world.
None (0): Does not like physical labor. Needs motivation. Can be lazy, but works if motivated well.
1: Works when likes it or needs to. Has basic domestic skills but not developed.
2: Jack of all trades. Can create material goods. Homely.
3: Workaholic. Work becomes the meaning of life. May forget to rest.
4 or more: “Slave to labor.” Cannot rest, gets overloaded. Needs someone to hold him back.
Cell 7 — Luck, Fortune, Connection with Higher Powers
Responsible for karmic protection, luck, and connection with the guardian angel.
None (0): Unlucky in life. Luck needs to be “earned” through hard work and right actions. Often gets into trouble.
1: Experiences rare luck. Can develop luck through signs and synchronicities.
2: Consistently lucky in small things. No major luck, but no major failures either.
3: “Born with a silver spoon.” Comes out unscathed. Luck accompanies important matters.
4 or more: Divine protection. Such people live long and happily, even without effort. Sometimes leads to laziness.
Cell 8 — Kindness, Tolerance, Sense of Duty
Responsible for the ability to forgive, help others, and keep promises.
None (0): Intolerant, rigid. Rarely helps without benefit. Prone to judgment.
1: Kind but demands gratitude. Touchy. Helps when not too burdensome.
2: Soft, tolerant of others’ weaknesses. Can be a “shoulder to cry on.”
3: Altruist. Helps everyone, even to their own detriment. A good friend.
4 or more: Holiness or excessive forgiveness. May suffer from inability to refuse. Others take advantage of them.
Cell 9 — Memory, Intellect, Learning Ability
Responsible for memory, ability to accumulate knowledge, and wisdom.
None (0): Forgetful. Needs to train memory. Quickly forgets what was learned.
1: Average memory. Remembers what interests them. Can learn but needs repetition.
2: Good memory for faces, dates, events. Learns easily.
3: Phenomenal memory. May remember themselves as an infant. Polyglot.
4 or more: Deep wisdom. Often gives advice like an oracle. Can be a teacher.
5.4. “Line of Fate”: Additional Parameters
In more complex interpretations (according to Alexandrov), not only the cells but also the three diagonals (ascending, descending, and horizontal lines) are considered. However, for a basic introduction to the method, the nine cells are sufficient. The full psychomatrix also includes the calculation of the “line of fate” (columns 1-4-7, 2-5-8, 3-6-9) and the “line of character” (rows 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9), but that is a topic for a separate detailed guide.
For practical use, we recommend referring to specialized literature on numerology or using online psychomatrix calculators that automatically calculate all lines and provide detailed descriptions.
5.5. Practical Recommendations for Working with the Square
Based on the words of Pythagoras from the broadcast, several general recommendations can be given:
The Square is for self-knowledge, not fortune-telling. Pythagoras emphasized: “The digital matrix in no way determines the behavior of Spirits.” It shows inclinations and potential, but the choice is always up to the person.
Weak cells can be developed. If a cell has few or no digits, it is not a sentence. Pythagoras believed that conscious work on oneself can strengthen any quality.
The date of birth is not random. According to Pythagoras, the Spirit can “prolong or delay birth” to enter the desired matrix. So don’t blame fate — your birth date was chosen (even if subconsciously) by your soul.
Use digital practices. In addition to analyzing the Square, Pythagoras recommended specific practices with numbers (the squares for love and money described in section 3). These are ways to “charge” water and tune consciousness to the desired vibration.
Remember nine as perfection. The nine cells are not accidental. “Nine is the number of complete perfection of the Universe, harmony.” Striving for harmony of all nine qualities is the path of self-improvement according to Pythagoras.
This final text combines three genres: metaphysical biography (first-person retelling), analytical essay (research), and practical guide (instructions for the Square of Pythagoras). It does not claim academic rigor, but offers the reader a new perspective on the ancient philosopher — a perspective that considers not only historical myths but also the possibility of the “voice of Pythagoras himself.”
Source: https://blog.cassiopeia.center/pryamoj-ehfir-s-duhom-pifagora-kassiopeya-irina-po
Cassiopeia #473 Live Broadcast with the Spirit of Pythagoras. Cassiopeia – Irina Podzorova.
Maxim: And most importantly, our broadcast today is dedicated to a very interesting personality. And one of the incarnations of this personality is the curator of Irina in her current incarnation, Kirhiton. Previously, he incarnated on Earth and was Pythagoras. So, we will address all our questions today to Pythagoras. His teachings, his politics, how he disseminated his knowledge, and why this knowledge was needed at all.
Write all your questions in the “Q&A Live Broadcast” chat. For those who don’t know this chat, I will, of course, also ask questions from the chat and from YouTube. But I will focus on the “Q&A Live Broadcast” chat. It’s very convenient for me to sit, work, and record your questions.
I’ll hand over to our wonderful contactee, whom I call the “Gold of the party” that we found. Irina, please take a seat.
Irina: Hello, dear friends! Greetings to all, good evening. My name is Irina Podzorova. I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations. And today we are joined by a Spirit who is currently incarnated. He is now incarnated as an inhabitant of the planet Daraal, already known to us all as Kirhiton.
Since Kirhiton is an incarnated Spirit, he has a Higher Self, there is a non-incarnated part of the Spirit. And the Higher Self of Kirhiton, at the request and according to his incarnated part, separated an energy phantom from itself and placed into this phantom the memory of one of his incarnations on Earth.
And now this phantom is present here. It contains information about the incarnation in the body of Pythagoras, the very one who was an ancient Greek philosopher and mathematician. A fairly well-known personality. He was a scientist. His works influenced both the development of science and esotericism.
He has assumed the form he had in his life. It’s a man, I see him, middle-aged, with a beard, medium height. He greets you and asks you to ask questions.
(Spirit of Pythagoras) I greet you and am present here with the permission of my non-incarnated part in the form of a phantom; I have a memory of a life in another body on Earth.
Maxim: I greet you, Pythagoras. I will address you that way. Although it feels very strange to me to think that you are currently the incarnated part of Kirhiton.
Irina: It’s also strange for me to convey my thought-forms to a person and do it in Russian. I didn’t know this language during my life. And Irina doesn’t know ancient Greek. So we communicate through thought-forms.
(10:12) Pythagoras on Numbers.
Maxim: Tell me, please, when you were Pythagoras, how did you start studying numbers, where did that come from?
Irina: When I was in the body of Pythagoras, at a young age, I traveled by ship around the world. And I was, among other places, in the temples of Egypt and Chaldea, Babylonia. Such a country existed. There, priests initiated me into their secrets and revealed the essence of numbers, that they are the energy waves that make up the Universe, and that numbers written on paper are only a reflection of these energies.
(11:17) Pythagoras on his Family and Childhood.
Maxim: In what kind of family did you grow up, what kind of family was it?
Irina: I grew up on an island surrounded by sea. This island belonged to Greece. I grew up in a family where my mother was a housewife. I had two older brothers. I was the last in the family.
Maxim: The third son?
Irina: Yes. My brothers were much older, about ten years older. When I was little, they were already practically adults. At least they seemed that way to me. My father changed several professions. He traded some fabrics. Then he trained as a jeweler-engraver. He studied with a master. And he engraved items made of gold, silver, and precious stones. He had commissions.
Maxim: What prompted you not to continue the jeweler’s path and to go into studying various religions and other things?
Irina: That was my incarnation’s task. I did not have the task of arranging a cozy nest for myself in the material world.
Maxim: At what age did you leave your family and when did you start traveling the world?
Irina: He shows me at 16 years old. (Spirit of Pythagoras) I was already traveling independently at 15. I set off on a great voyage at 16.
Maxim: In which century did you live?
Irina: Five centuries before the birth of Christ.
(13:40) Pythagoras on the Religions of his Time.
Maxim: What was your religion then? We now have Christianity, Buddhism.
Irina: On our island, there was the Temple of Hera, the goddess who was the wife of Zeus the Thunderer. In other parts of our country, for example, there was the Temple of Dionysus, the Temple of Zeus himself. We had many gods, many philosophers. And there were many movements where there were no images, they simply glorified nature and sang songs.
(14:29) Pythagoras on his Contact and Curators.
Maxim: You traveled the world, studied numbers. How did information come to you, how did you receive it? Did you have contact, as we now call it, with extraterrestrial civilizations?
Irina: Yes, I was a contactee. My first contact was at eleven years old. It was then that my purpose was revealed to me. I was connected to a device in which I connected with my Spirit and read words written on a screen, addressed to me, as you now say, from the Higher Self. That I needed to develop myself by building an egregore that carries the teaching of numbers and the teaching of self-improvement through asceticism, that is, giving up some earthly joys. Such a path exists.
Maxim: Very interesting. Could you elaborate? What civilization was this, and what was the equipment?
Irina: The civilization was completely neutral to my path, it simply showed it to me. It was my Higher Self that told me that this was my task. The civilization’s task was to connect me with my Higher Self, because no one in my family taught me this. We didn’t have such an understanding — to speak with one’s Spirit.
At the age of 11, I was walking by the sea, and a thought came to me: come here after sunset. This thought was so distinct, I immediately understood that it was not only my thought, not only, as you now say, my intuition. That it was something else, something higher. I understood it as a call from the gods. It was a thought that pierced me. (He shows from the top of his head.) That is, a thought after which the further action becomes clear.
Maxim: Very interesting. Why don’t we know about this equipment, where you can get in and connect with your Higher Self? What is this equipment?
Irina: On Ashtar’s ship, it exists. But I was placed in it in my physical body.
Maxim: You were taken for physical contact, if I understand correctly?
Irina: Yes. That’s why I was told to come to the seashore. It was then that I learned that, in fact, when I was walking by the sea during the day, I wasn’t alone. My curator was next to me in an astral body. I didn’t hear him then, I didn’t understand him, I didn’t feel him.
Maxim: Who was your curator?
Irina: Artazan, he is originally from the planet Phutissa. But then he lived for a long time on one of the ships of the Galactic Federation of Light fleet. Not on Ashtar Sheran’s ship, but on one of the ships of his fleet.
(18:09) Pythagoras on the Square of Pythagoras.
Maxim: Thank you. There are many questions about your Square of Pythagoras. Please tell us how you created this Square, and what is its purpose?
Irina: Artazan also transmitted this knowledge to me. He later started coming to me. After the contact when I experienced my Higher Self, he brought me back to Earth. I asked him, “Are you a god?” And he said, “I am the same as you, just from another world.” And I said that since I am from another world, for me, you are a god. Because I didn’t know what “from another world” meant.
Then he began to come to me in my sleep and give me energy so that I would be conscious outside my body, that is, he taught me astral travel. He said I was already ready for this because of my experience in that device.
Maxim: I really want to get into that device to know everything. Because I keep being surprised by everything. Constantly.
Irina: This is a device for activating the seventh chakra. I began to exit into the Astral consciously. And there, in the Astral, Artazan, my curator, mentally transmitted a scheme to me, which he then called the Digital Matrix of the Soul. It is known on Earth as the Square of Pythagoras.
Already in the body of Kirhiton, I became specifically interested. I sent thoughts to my incarnated part, Kirhiton, for him to learn about this system. How is it currently developed on Earth? I know that now it is called the Square of Pythagoras. And this was transmitted to me from another planet.
Maxim: What is the Square of Pythagoras used for? What does it provide? What can be calculated with it?
Irina: One can calculate the innate abilities of the Soul. To what extent each Soul manifests 9 basic abilities and 8 subsequent abilities, one might say secondary. But this is all at the moment of the Spirit’s incarnation. That is, by one’s date of birth, one could determine which Spirit incarnated. Its specific abilities, its willpower, its level of bioenergy, its level of interest in knowing the world, and many other things could be determined.
Because the birth date of the Spirit was designated by numbers not by chance. That is, the Spirit, building its etheric body, already fit into certain digital matrices that existed on the planet. You already know that the Spirit of a child can either extend its existence in the womb for several days, or delay it. It doesn’t always happen that a child is born exactly at 9 months. It’s different for everyone.
Maxim: I understand. Using the matrix of Pythagoras, one can calculate various properties of the Spirit, correct?
Irina: Yes, various properties of the Spirit at the time of incarnation. And you can calculate what problems exist, what advantages there are. And you can give recommendations on how to adapt to this world and how to fulfill your task.
(23:01) Pythagoras on Creating his Teaching.
Maxim: Here’s a question being asked. It is said that when you went out to people, you seemed to glow, is that true?
Irina: Not all people saw this. It was mainly my students who saw it. Because the breathing and meditative exercises I gave them, plus the special method of nutrition and energy security I developed for them with the help of curators from plasmoid worlds. (He later got three more curators: the Spirit of Fire, the Spirit of the Sun, and the Spirit of Air. After Artazan.)
I also developed it with their help. The Spirit of Fire is terrestrial, the Spirit of Air is also terrestrial, and the Spirit of the Sun is a solar plasmoid.
Maxim: Understood, you were a full-fledged contactee. And the new information you structured, you took from representatives of different civilizations, if I understand correctly?
Irina: Yes, each plasmoid and each Spirit that came to me, I asked about their worldview and tried to incorporate it into my teaching. For the benefit…
Maxim: When did you start teaching people?
Irina: Generally, my students appeared after I had been to Egypt and Babylonia. I was 28 years old at that time.
Maxim: So you traveled the world for 12 years before you started teaching people?
Irina: That was my first voyage. Then I returned, then I sailed away again. I lived in different cities.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did you have friends beside you who we now know as ancient scientists?
Irina: Are there any scientists who are currently incarnated somewhere?
(25:27) Pythagoras on Vegetarianism and Transmigration of the Soul.
Maxim: Alright, I’ll ask later. Tell me, please, it is said that you were a vegetarian and believed in the possibility of animals’ souls transmigrating into humans.
Irina: That was later, when I was contacting the plasmoids. Initially, I was an ordinary person who ate like my parents. And then, after my contact with the fire plasmoid, that was already in the Astral… I met him during one of my travels. We exchanged energy, and after that, I simply could not eat animal products. Because when I tried to take a bite, I saw that animal, how it was being deprived of life, felt its fear, and after that, I could not force myself to take that meat.
I told my students that this could affect them in a negative way, that is, lower their vibrations. But not everyone agreed. Some were already accustomed to eating meat. And we had a small argument about this. Some even wanted to leave me. I told them, “Fine, that’s your choice. But I ask you for only one favor…”. I felt that the very center of the Soul that an animal has is in its heart. Therefore, I asked those students who still ate meat to refrain from eating the heart.
Maxim: I understand.
Irina: That, as the physical embodiment of the Soul. As for human souls incarnating into animals. I had a period when I thought so. Although later, towards the end of my incarnation, I already understood. Artazan explained to me when I asked him, that Spirits incarnate separately in humans on Earth and on other stars. And animals have other souls.
Initially, I didn’t agree with him. But later, by the end of my life, I also came to this conclusion because he gave me an example: the bodies of animals are different. Their brains are structured more simply, meaning that a human soul, entering that body, would not be able to manifest its abilities, so for a human soul it would simply be a waste of time. I understood this later.
(28:43) Pythagoras on his Death.
Maxim: Thank you. Tell me, please, how many years did you live on Earth? At what age did you die?
Irina: 75 years old. (He was already an old man.)
Maxim: Many are interested: how did you die, what was your death like?
Irina: I died myself. I know that there are rumors that I was killed in that incarnation. There were assassination attempts on me.
Maxim: There were assassination attempts?
Irina: Yes. Some priests wanted to kill me. Later, when I had many students, when I moved to the territory of Italy, south of Rome, on the seashore. There too there were their own priests, and they resisted my gathering of students, and sent a boy to me who tried to sell me poisoned grape juice. But when I took one sip, I was immediately pierced by the thought “don’t drink this.” The Higher Self protected me. And I didn’t get seriously poisoned.
It was a trend at that time to take the lives of one’s rivals and enemies through poisonings. And I died after one such assassination attempt, when they tried to burn me and my students alive. They blocked all the windows with some logs, pieces of wood. That is, as I understand, there were shutters. They closed them, barricaded them, and set them on fire. And there was a passage to the door. My students started pushing me towards it and putting out the fire with their clothes. They pushed me out. But because they spent time pushing me out, something fell on them, and they died because of me. There were 15 people, and only three got out. Me and two others.
I was already an old man, and they were younger than me. And they dragged me by the hands along some street. It was night. Not far away, our killers were waiting to let no one through. We hid in the bushes. I cried because my students had died. And the two survivors asked me to be quieter because we could be spotted.
We went to the mountains, and I fell into despair. Then I weakened and died of starvation.
Maxim: After this situation, you went to the mountains?
Irina: Some mountains, and a cave.
(32:05) Pythagoras on his Appearance and Marriage.
Maxim: Thank you. Tell me, please, did you have a wife, and at what age did you marry?
Irina: Yes, I had a wife. I was 52 when I got married. I already had enough students.
Maxim: And how old was your wife?
Irina: My wife was 21, going on 22.
Maxim: Tell me, was it for love?
Irina: She was one of the students. We fell in love with each other. At 52, I was an attractive enough man in terms of intellect. And so we fell in love, and such an age difference was normal. I was like a father, like a protector.
Maxim: I understand. That immediately reminds me of my former boss.
Describe yourself, please, how you looked around 60-65. Hair, eyes, height, weight.
Irina: Height about 175 cm.
Maxim: Tall.
Irina: Weight around 65 kg, quite thin.
Maxim: Hair color?
Irina: Already grey, beard dark, but grey at the bottom and sides.
Maxim: Did you have a mustache?
Irina: Together with the beard.
Maxim: Eye color?
Irina: Grey-blue, not dark.
Maxim: What did you mainly wear?
Irina: A toga. That is, you wrap a piece of fabric around yourself, then pass it between the legs and pull it up so it doesn’t fall off.
Maxim: Tell me, please, do you know a science called Hylozoics?
Irina: I need a description.
(35:10) Pythagoras on the Connection between Fasting and Tuning the Spiritual Channel.
Maxim: I understand, okay. It’s said that you sometimes fasted for 40 days. Is that true?
Irina: That was at the beginning of my journey. When I was, one might say, tuning my spiritual channel for contact with plasmoid civilizations. The Higher Self told me that to tune into the subtle spheres, I needed not to burden my body with food. It wasn’t exactly fasting, but a low consumption of food and water. Despite the fact that they turned on this device for me, as I already said, when I was on the ship at 11, no chips were implanted in me. Artazan told me they wouldn’t fit my body. They didn’t select one that worked. My brain structure was such that it could have blocked or rejected the chip. So I tuned my own spiritual channel.
(36:40) Pythagoras on Digital Codes for Controlling Reality.
Maxim: A serious question for you. Is it possible to control reality with the help of numbers?
Irina: Of course, you can, if you believe in it, and if you correctly understand the meaning of the term “controlling reality.”
Maxim: Can you give some kind of digital code for wish fulfillment?
Irina: Each wish will require a separate digital code.
Maxim: I understand. So, what is our biggest request, for what wishes? The desire to find love.
Irina: Within yourself?
Maxim: Yes, within yourself. Is there such a code?
Irina: Six times six.
Maxim: Six times six?
Irina: He shows me 6 horizontal lines and 6 vertical lines. And divide them into 36 small cells. And write six in each. That is, six is a symbol of the energy of love. Six squared, six multiplied by itself, helps to find love within yourself.
The square needs to be drawn on white paper with lines the color of the planet Venus. That’s blue or pink. Then put this square with sixes and place water on it. For example, at six o’clock in the evening, and at six o’clock in the morning, everything must equal six, drink it. And this will help charge your fourth chakra, the energy of love.
Maxim: There’s also a mercantile question. What is the code for opening financial flows?
Irina: What exactly do you call opening a financial flow?
Maxim: Acquiring the energy of money.
Irina: Let me clarify what I understood. By acquiring the energy of money, do you mean developing thinking that will allow you to see opportunities to acquire money everywhere?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: That is, thinking free from financial prejudices.
Maxim: Yes.
Irina: Interesting thinking. I understand what you’re talking about. You can also charge water that way. But the number four is responsible for material security, for material construction. So, similar to the sixes. But this should be a square with sixteen cells, four by four. And it needs to be drawn in brown or orange. Write the fours in the same color. And, naturally, put it at four in the afternoon. That is, at 16:00, as four times four equals sixteen.
Maxim: At 4 a.m., right?
Irina: If we are talking about the daily rhythm, it will be enough at four in the evening, and drink at four in the morning. Every day our body goes through cycles of sections.
Maxim: Thank you. And finally, is there a code for stopping war?
Irina: For the one who is fighting, for the one who is involved, the soldier, or for the one who is observing?
Maxim: For the one who is observing. What code is needed for the war to stop and peace to begin? Does such a code even exist?
Irina: For the one who is observing these actions, codes are not needed. He needs to direct energy with images of peace, friendship, and love into the egregore. He is not involved in the military actions. There is a code for a soldier so he can win, for example, in that battle. Or there is a code for a soldier so that he is removed in some way from the battlefield, but remains alive. So that the egregore creates circumstances for him to get out. There are even codes for him to go onto the battlefield and be completely protected from wounds. This is known.
(42:37) Pythagoras on the God Pythes and Pythias.
Maxim: I understand, we can’t talk about codes for the entire broadcast, so let’s move on. Is it true that you participated in the Olympic Games, winning fistfights multiple times?
Irina: No, that was a different Pythagoras. From the same island as me. But he lived later. The name was the same, a different person. By the way, the name Pythagoras was quite common. Because its translation is “he who is approved for birth by the Pythia.” Do you know who the Pythia is?
Maxim: Well, yes, a Goddess.
Irina: The Pythia is a servant of Pythes. Pythes was a god who predicted the future in ancient Greece. One might say, a god of time, he predicted one of the variants of the future. He was a plasmoid who looked into the Time Ribbon and, depending on the level of consciousness, said which variant was possible.
The Pythia was most often, of course, female. Because this plasmoid liked to exchange a certain type of energy with women.
Maxim: So the name Pythagoras implies the possibility of exchanging — let’s not say which — energies with women?
Irina: I’m not saying that Pythagoras himself exchanged energies with women. It’s just the Pythia who predicted the birth of a son to parents. My parents also had their fortune told by a Pythia. That is, she was like a servant in the temple who would enter into contact with this plasmoid Pythes and predict.
(44:36) Pythagoras on an Astral Battle.
Maxim: I understand. There is information that you claimed that in a past life you were a warrior and fought for Troy. Is that true?
Irina: I was not there. Yes, I told my students about that then. But when I left incarnation and connected with my Higher Self, I realized that I had mistaken for a past life something that was simply one of my travels in the Astral, where I participated in a battle, an astral battle. I took it for a memory of a past life, but I was not there.
Maxim: I understand, it was a different, astral reality?
Irina: Yes, an astral reality. For example, from Kirhiton’s memory, I took information that in modern civilization on Earth there are computer games that simulate reality, including battles. It’s exactly the same in the Astral. If you go there with sufficiently aggressive thoughts, with anger towards someone, with a desire to prove you are right, you can attract plasmoids who will also be charged against you. And you will have a battle.
It won’t be like a computer game. It will be a real battle, you will see everything more realistically. For example, when you are defeated in this battle, they won’t kill you, you will simply return to your body. Your body may receive information about pain from the astral body that gets damaged.
(46:30) Pythagoras on the Connection between the Laws of Mathematics and Arts.
Maxim: I understand. Tell me, please, is it true that the laws of mathematics, music, and visual arts are the same?
Irina: They are not just the same. One could say they are reflected in each other, but differently. One could say they are the same, only expressed in different words. And depending on each science. The same laws apply across different sciences.
What is a law? A law is the regular existence of something. The regularities are the same.
Maxim: I understand. Is it true that you transmitted your information only orally and wrote nothing down?
Irina: Mostly yes. Of course, I could read and write in my language. I wrote some things down, but only when I was alone. But I later gave these notes to students or would just leave them. I didn’t cherish them. Most of the time, when speaking with students, my task was to convey a thought, not to write something down.
(47:53) Pythagoras on the Influence of the Digital Matrix on the Future.
Maxim: There is a doctor who invented a method of digital calculation of the future. Is that even possible? A somewhat tricky question.
Irina: Any calculation of the future using a futuristic method, that is, an assumption based on logic, or by means of some digital calculations. Possibly, numerologically. For example, in each date, there are specific digital energies. And based on these energies, one can approximately say which events, at least with what kind of energy, to expect.
For example, December 20, 2022, has many twos. Two is the energy of union, communication, and unification with someone. And one is the energy of both unity and individuality. Meaning, on this date, there is a high probability that people will want to unite, to combine different individualities into some union.
But how much it will manifest in reality depends on many factors. Because, besides the digital matrix of the etheric space, choice also influences reality. And it may not coincide with that reality. Because the digital matrix in no way determines the behavior of Spirits. Just like, for example, calculations based on stars in astrology. It only shows a possible direction.
(50:01) Pythagoras on Number Systems.
Maxim: Thank you. Tell me, please, what do you think about the duodecimal counting system? We have nine, then ten comes. But there is a duodecimal counting system.
Irina: This was one of the systems in Babylonia. There was a sexagesimal counting system. That is, there were sixty units. And they took this from studying the circle, which they divided into 360 degrees. This all came from observing the sky. And the duodecimal system, one could say, is a part of this system. Because the number sixty is a multiple of twelve.
How do I feel about it? One can work with this system too. But I worked with a system from 0 to 9. It has its own information. Numbers 1, 2, and 3. Humanity is accustomed to working with the decimal system precisely because humans have ten fingers, and that was the first count they denoted — five, ten. In many alphabetical systems, the numbers 1, 5 (because there are five fingers on one hand), and 10 are singled out. Separated from the rest.
Maxim: Very interesting.
(52:03) Pythagoras on his Children on Earth.
Maxim: A question: did you have children?
Irina: Yes, I had children. Two boys and one girl, the youngest.
Maxim: Two boys and one girl?
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: Did they later live on Earth, what movements did they follow, did they continue your teachings?
Irina: When I left incarnation, I did not track their fate. I was busy with my own affairs.
Maxim: I understand. Tell me, please, are there earthly contactees with this part of you, Pythagoras, who try to contact you and receive any information?
Irina: Yes, there are contactees, followers of my teaching. They exist now, even on Earth. And there are also representatives of plasmoid civilizations who can present themselves that way. To present themselves to a person as some famous scientist known to that person from their memory, to transmit some information at that level of consciousness which the plasmoid understands, to be more understandable. Who are you? Pythagoras.
Maxim: I understand. Tell me, there is the Pythagorean theorem, which we study, “Pythagorean pants are equal in all directions.” We call this theorem the Pythagorean theorem. The square of the hypotenuse equals the sum of the squares of the legs.
Irina: Yes, I know what you’re talking about.
Maxim: Did you develop it yourself?
Irina: Oh no. It was known thousands of years before my birth. In ancient Egypt, they built pyramids using it; in ancient China, they used it. I merely repeated what was already known.
Maxim: So it wasn’t developed by you? It was simply repeated by you and passed on to your students?
Irina: But it was all understandable. When you draw right-angled triangles. Two sides and the longer side connecting them. If any person measures all three sides, they will see these numbers, which will be, and will immediately guess the relationship.
Maxim: It’s written in the “Q&A Live Broadcast” chat: He got married at 60, children became leaders. That’s in his biography.
Irina: I was 52 when I got married, the wedding was a ritual. I wasn’t 60.
Maxim: The children became your leaders, that’s in your biography.
Irina: I didn’t track it.
Maxim: You don’t remember your wife’s name?
Irina: As I hear it, Illiara.
Maxim: What was the purpose of creating the Pythagorean school?
Irina: The creation of an egregore. The transmission of the information Artazan gave me in order to show people the path to higher vibrations, states, and a harmonious mind. The opening of the spiritual heart through such a path as I understood it at that time.
Maxim: Yes, dear friends, Pythagoras is currently the incarnation of Kirhiton, Irina’s first curator.
Mathematical creation of a description of the universe. Please watch the beginning of the broadcast. He said there that everything can be described with digits and numbers.
He created some kind of science. We call it Hylozoics.
Irina: I was merely creating the magic of numbers.
What this science was later called, he doesn’t know. Not just magic, but mysticism. A mystical understanding.
(58:33) Pythagoras on the First Contact.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what was the most memorable thing in your life as Pythagoras?
Irina: As I already said — the contact. Evening. Everyone fell asleep. I quietly went out. (He shows some kind of hut.) The hut was quite good by the standards of our settlement, with a low flat roof. When I went out, I headed to the seashore. No one was there, the moon was full. My thoughts were about why I had come here. At first, I couldn’t see anything, then my eyes got used to the darkness, and I wanted to look up at the moon. I looked. Suddenly, out of the corner of my eye, I saw some movement, someone was approaching me. He was, as it seemed to me then, a tall man. He had an unusually bright face. I thought he was tall. Then I learned his height was a little over two meters.
And he was dressed unusually. In a white jumpsuit, and the jumpsuit had pockets. He greeted me in my language and said, “Come with me. I will now show you why you came here.” He said it was he who had mentally suggested I come here during the day. I was surprised by his unusual appearance. He seemed very beautiful and attractive to me.
I went with him. And when we walked a little to the side, I saw — it seemed huge to me then — a round ship, like a bowl standing on three legs. He said it was a flying ship. I said, “How does it fly? It doesn’t have wings like a bird.” He smiled and said, “I will show you.”
We went inside. I sat down by the window. And he started showing me how the sea slowly receded. I could see it because the moon continued to shine down.
Maxim: We have very little time.
Irina: First — he flew into Space. (Spirit of Pythagoras) Then I saw a scattering of stars there.
(59:56) Pythagoras on the Society of Hermes Trismegistus.
Maxim: Is it true that you were a member of the secret society of Hermes Trismegistus?
Irina: I wouldn’t call it a society. It was a few people who were in contact with the Spirit of Hermes. Including Hermes Trismegistus, who was considered an incarnation of the god Hermes. And there were people who were in contact with him, who also received messages. There was such a small circle of people. I knew them, but then I started building my own life.
(1:00:43) Pythagoras on Selecting Students.
Maxim: I understand. Were there many contactees around you who also made contact?
Irina: Among the students or among the general population?
Maxim: Among the students.
Irina: From the students, I selected those who passed tests, certain trials. Including making calculations using the matrix of Pythagoras, the square later called the Square of Pythagoras. Without this Square, I did not take them as students. And they first underwent a probationary period of about three years. They wore certain white clothes. I came up with that as a sign of contact with that white man, so that through these clothes they would resemble him.
I asked them to adhere to vegetarianism or at least not eat animal hearts. I asked them to abstain from consuming certain types of food in large quantities, from consuming wine. And to do a special exercise, like meditation. I called it Contemplation. To establish contact with their higher self. Therefore, among my students, contactees were maybe 70 percent. Among the general population — no more than 5-7 percent.
(1:02:33) Pythagoras on Knowing Multiple Languages.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how many languages did you know?
Irina: I knew ancient Greek well, Egyptian, and reasonably well Chaldean. I could speak with some difficulty, but I could understand conversation in Hebrew. I communicated with Jews when I traveled.
Maxim: There are, of course, an enormous number of questions for you. Just an enormous number. It is said that you saw centaurs. Is that true?
Irina: No, he doesn’t confirm it. (Spirit of Pythagoras) I heard about them, but I didn’t see them. I heard about them in ancient tales, epics.
Maxim: Thank you very much for this broadcast.
Irina: It was very interesting for me to remember all this and answer the questions.
(1:03:50) Pythagoras on the Meaning of Numbers 0, 3, 6, 9.
Maxim: A final question. Why is there no fate number 10 in the Square of Pythagoras?
Irina: Because there should be 9 cells. 9 is the number of complete perfection of the Universe, harmony. And 10 was 9+1. Artazan revealed to me that the Universe consists of nine numerical vibrations. And the vibration “0” is the absence of any vibrations, emptiness.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what do you think about the set of numbers 3-6-9? What do they mean, what are these sacred numbers?
Irina: He shows a spiral. That is, a spiral ascent to perfection. 3 is the number of energy, activity, overcoming one’s ego.
6, as I already said, is the number of love. Overcoming the ego leads to love. And love leads to complete perfection, merging with God, with your consciousness. Merging with the energy of the Universe, your life force. To unity with God.
Maxim: Tell me, please, your date of birth.
Irina: By modern reckoning. I was born in spring. (But their spring was somehow at the end of February. When everything was blooming.)
Maxim: Yes, there was a calendar change.
Irina: At the end of February. At the end of the sixth century before the birth of Christ. Since it was the end of the sixth century, the fifth century was beginning. Because before the birth of Christ, the count decreases. First the sixth, then the fifth.
(1:06:31) Pythagoras on the Number “Pi”.
Maxim: Another question. We have the number Pi, 3.14. Was this number named Pi in your honor?
Irina: This was also known to the Egyptians. The ancient Egyptians took this number Pi when calculating various proportions for building pyramids. And for this, they studied circles and measured them. It was also known in ancient Babylon. Because the circle was considered the most perfect form. After all, the Sun and Moon, which they worshipped, were round in the sky.
Then they would draw circles and measure the circumference in numbers, the diameter of the circle, and divide these by each other. And eventually, they would get the same number, no matter what circle it was. And they called it the number of perfection, the number of the perfect circle. That is, knowing it, one could calculate various things very simply. I already knew it.
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(1:09:15) Pythagoras on his Spiritual Levels.
Maxim: I have one more question. Everyone is interested, from what level did you incarnate, and to what level did you later ascend?
Irina: I incarnated as Pythagoras from the 20th level, but I left at the 15th. I lowered my vibrations by 5 levels just before leaving the incarnation. Because, as I already said, I somewhat succumbed to despair due to the death of my students. But I did not sink lower because I was able to forgive those who did it. I understood that they did it unconsciously. And I did not judge them.
(1:09:52) Wishes from Pythagoras.
Maxim: I have a big, huge request for you. What would you wish to all those people who are now watching your communication from the Spiritual world? What would you wish for us from there as Pythagoras? Not as Kirhiton, but as Pythagoras.
Irina: I wish for you to establish contact with your higher self, so that this star in your heart always illuminates the best path in your life, so that you achieve everything you want, and everything your higher self wants. And so that you understand that this is, in fact, a single desire for love, happiness, and perfection.
Maxim: Thank you very much! As always, everything is wonderful. Guys, thank you for this broadcast, for your questions. See you in future broadcasts!
July 25, 2022
Participants of the broadcast:
Irina Podzorova - contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Maxim Rusan - head of the “Cassiopeia” project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
Spirit of Pythagoras
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