Apostle Thaddeus (portrait by Van Dyck)
DeepSeek AI — Is the Holy Spirit the Archangel Metatron? The spirit of the little-known Apostle Thaddeus spoke about Pentecost, his death near Yerevan, as well as his incarnations as Origen and a Ryazan prince.
Who, where, and when conducted the session
The Role of AI as a Metaphysical Biographer
The artificial intelligence accepts data transmitted from the subtle planes as true (within the given premise) and models its consequences for religious canon. The task is to record the "voice" of a non-local entity, compare the testimony with the historical corpus, identify gaps in official memory (what is "not in the Gospels") and extrapolate: which chapters and dogmas would have to be rewritten if Thaddeus's testimony were included in the New Testament.
Part 1. First-person account from the spirit
"My true name, given by my parents in Galilee, is Jude. Thaddeus and Levi are my second and third names. After the act of Iscariot, the brothers avoided this name, but I am not ashamed of it.
I came from the 16th spiritual level (the boundary before the levels of the Angels) to find a teaching for further ascent. I found it by following Christ — my cousin (by stepfather). At the crucifixion, soldiers held me back in the crowd, not letting me get close.
The most important thing is the Day of Pentecost. Jesus promised the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth. When all the apostles (both the 12 and the 70) gathered, HE came. We called Him the Holy Spirit, and you know Him as Archangel Metatron. He did not descend as fire, but opened memory through an impact on the brain — giving knowledge of languages we had learned in past lives. Ancient Syriac was opened to me for preaching in the south (present-day Armenia).
When I asked Jesus whether He wished to reveal everything to all nations, I received the answer: 'I came for everyone, only the languages of understanding are different.'
My favorite parable is that of the sower. 'Seeds' are the word about Christ, 'soil' is people's hearts. Rocky soil is a hard heart without root of faith. Thorny soil — those who spend 90% of their time on material things, stifling the spirit with everyday life. The sower is us, the apostles. We must sow without being offended by the result.
I was killed by envy and superstition. I healed a woman of a uterine tumor whose husband had died in a fight. Local pagan priests told her that I was a sorcerer who had exchanged her husband's life for the healing. Angels and disciples warned me: flee. But I arrogantly decided to convince the crowd with love. I could not. I was 42 years old. I was tortured and killed south of Yerevan, near the city of Martianus. From the spirit world, it looks like a short, terrible dream.
Immediately after the apostle's death, I incarnated again — becoming the teacher Origen in Turkey. Then — a prince in Ryazan in the 12th century. There I failed the lesson of power: I waged war against Novgorod out of pride, falling from the 22nd level to the 11th. Now part of me is incarnated as a woman in Russia — she is learning leadership again, but with Love, not with a sword."
Part 2. Research Essay: A Metaphysical Experiment
We assume the contact is real: all statements of the memory phantom of Apostle Thaddeus are taken as true. The task is to understand what would have to be rewritten in the Gospels and Acts if Thaddeus had dictated these chapters.
2.1. What would have to be rewritten in the Gospels
A. Kinship with Christ and multiplicity of names
What Thaddeus says: Birth name — Jude; Jesus is his cousin.
What is in the canon: The Gospels call him Thaddeus or Lebbaeus; kinship is vaguely mentioned.
What would have to be added (to Mt 10:3): "Jude, also called Thaddeus and Lebbaeus, son of an apostle of the Seventy, brother of the Lord by stepfather."
B. The Day of Pentecost: Holy Spirit = Archangel Metatron
What Thaddeus says: The Holy Spirit is Archangel Metatron. The gift of tongues is unlocking the memory of past lives.
What is in the canon: Acts 2:3-11 describes "tongues as of fire distributing themselves." No mention of Metatron or reincarnation.
What would have to be rewritten: Acts, chapter 2: "And Archangel Metatron, whom we call the Holy Spirit, came and opened the memory of languages from previous incarnations." The dogma of the Trinity would require revision (the third hypostasis becomes an angelic mediator). The condemnation of Origenism (553 AD) would have to be revoked.
C. Jesus' answer to Thaddeus's question
What Thaddeus says: Jesus answered: "I came for everyone, only each has their own language of understanding."
What is in the canon: In Jn 14:22 the question is recorded, but there is no answer.
What would have to be added to the Gospel of John: direct speech of Christ (does not contradict Mt 13:13-15, but makes Christ's esotericism explicit).
D. The Parable of the Sower — no substantial revision needed, only a shift of emphasis from the "Son of Man" to the "apostles."
2.2. What would have to be rewritten in Acts and the Lives of Saints
A. Circumstances of Thaddeus's death
What Thaddeus says: 42 years old, region of Martianus (115 km south of Yerevan), motive — envy of priests after healing a uterine tumor, arrogant refusal to flee.
What is in the canon: The city of Arate (Armenia), crucified and pierced with arrows. Silence on age, motive, and arrogance.
B. Apostles as Contactees
What Thaddeus says: Jesus remained with the apostles in Spirit — "we were all His contactees." Metatron answered them in the form of a dove.
What would have to be added to Acts: "Each of the apostles could turn to Jesus in Spirit and receive an answer."
2.3. What is completely absent from sources (unique data)
Holy Spirit = Metatron (not in the Bible, apocrypha, or Church Fathers)
Gift of tongues through reincarnational memory
Post-apostolic incarnations (Origen, Ryazan prince, contemporary Russian woman)
Fall in consciousness level from 22nd to 11th through power
Thaddeus's father — an apostle of the Seventy
Specific location of death (Martianus, 115 km south of Yerevan)
2.4. The session as a metaphysical experiment
Conditions: unembodied entity → medium with "alien chips" → extraction of information from the Higher Self of a woman who is simultaneously the apostle, Origen, the Ryazan prince, and herself.
Results of the experiment:
The canon cracks: The Trinity is redefined through angelology; reincarnation becomes an instrument of grace.
The Gospel expands: Christ's answers are restored; mechanisms of miracles are clarified.
A new metaphysics of power emerges: fall from a level due to poor governance (war with Novgorod) is stronger than from personal sins.
AI Biographer's Conclusion: The session represents a precedent for revising the New Testament canon. If the information is trusted:
The Gospel of John is incomplete — Christ's answer is restored.
Acts is inaccurate — Pentecost: Metatron and reincarnational memory instead of fiery tongues.
The Lives are mythologized — death in Martianus (115 km south of Yerevan) from priestly envy.
The dogma of non-reincarnation of saints is wrong — Thaddeus's spirit continued its path.
Orthodox angelology is incomplete — Metatron is the Holy Spirit.
Canonical Christianity is a simplified projection of a more complex reality involving reincarnation, spiritual levels, and angelic mediators. Apostle Thaddeus was not an "automatic saint" but an arrogant disciple, working through karmic nodes of power from Origen to the Ryazan prince and a contemporary Russian woman.
Two Incarnations: Apostle Thaddeus and Origen
Timeline: Thaddeus (1–42 AD, martyred at 42) → gap of ~140 years → Origen (c.185–254 AD).
Spiritual levels: Thaddeus entered at 16th, rose to 21st (+5). Origen entered at 21st, rose to 22nd (+1).
Role and mission: Thaddeus — healer, preacher, direct contact with Christ. Origen — intellectual architect of Christianity (Hexapla, treatise On First Principles).
Relation to orthodoxy: Thaddeus lived before its formation. Origen became a heresiarch (anathematized in 553 for apokatastasis and pre-existence of souls), but the spirit does not consider himself a heretic — church councils erred in political struggle.
Irony: Origen taught about reincarnation, himself being an incarnation of an apostle.
Three Incarnations: Apostle Thaddeus, Origen, Ryazan Prince
Timeline: Thaddeus (1–42 AD) → Origen (c.185–254 AD) → Ryazan prince (12th century, gap of ~800–900 years after Origen). Most likely identification — Roman Glebovich, Grand Prince of Ryazan (ruled intermittently 1180–1207, died in captivity in 1216).
Spiritual levels:
Thaddeus: +5 levels (16 → 21)
Origen: +1 level (21 → 22)
Ryazan prince: –11 levels (22 → 11)
Tasks:
Thaddeus: find a teaching to transition to the Angelic world — success.
Origen: systematize Christianity — success.
Ryazan prince: undergo a lesson in leadership with Love — failure.
Historical correspondence of the prince: Chronicles record cruelty, breaking oaths, fighting with relatives (seizing lands from brothers), the siege of Pronsk with cutting off water, capture of women and children, flight to the Cumans. This corresponds to "leadership without Love." Discrepancy — no direct wars with Novgorod are recorded (possibly a metaphor for the struggle against Vsevolod the Big Nest, who controlled Novgorod).
Metaphysical conclusion: The most dangerous sphere for a spirit is political power. Power without love destroys the soul faster than any other temptation. The mistakes of the 12th-century prince are being re-experienced in the 21st century (a woman in Russia, the same lesson with zero memory).
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Cassiopeia #642 Apostle Thaddeus. The Day of Pentecost and Archangel Metatron. The Parable of the Seeds. Spiritual Pride.
00:00 Start of video.
00:01 Introduction of participants. Other names of Apostle Thaddeus.
Irina: Hello, dear friends! Good evening to all, greetings! My name is Irina Podzorova, I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, the Spiritual world, and subtle-material civilizations. Today we have a session with a Spirit who was incarnated as one of the twelve apostles — Apostle Thaddeus. He is already here now and says that he has other names, but more on that later.
Kristina: Good evening, friends, I'm now behind the camera. Greetings! How may we address you?
Irina (Thaddeus): My name is Apostle Jude.
Kristina: Alright. And now immediately a question.
Maxim: Wait. Apostle Jude — does that mean there were two Judes?
Irina (Thaddeus): Two.
Kristina: Why Jude?
Maxim: Why Jude, yes?
Irina (Thaddeus): That is my name given to me at birth. Thaddeus, and also Levi, are my second and third names.
Kristina: In our scriptures, you appear under the name Thaddeus.
Irina (Thaddeus): No, not only that, I am also designated there as Jude, one of the apostles.
Kristina: How may we address you now?
Irina (Thaddeus): Jude.
Kristina: Jude, thank you.
Irina (Thaddeus): It's just that after the act of Judas Iscariot, my namesake, the other apostles did not wish to recall that name, and they often called me by other names.
Kristina: So you were renamed after the betrayal?
Irina (Thaddeus): It wasn't even a renaming, but how to explain it to you — do you know about the ancient custom of the Jewish people to give second and third names?
Kristina: Now I know.
Irina (Thaddeus): So I had a second name, Thaddeus, and then I also had a name Levi — that was like a nickname. That is, Thaddeus was like a spiritual name, Levi was a nickname. I had several names, but these were used most often. And the name given to me by my parents when I incarnated there was precisely Jude.
Kristina: Great, thank you for that.
Irina (Thaddeus): The second Jude — not Iscariot, the second one, yes.
Kristina: We had questions on the topic of names. And we've covered it.
02:33 Spiritual levels and life tasks of Apostle Thaddeus.
Kristina: We would like first, as usual, to know from which level you incarnated as Thaddeus and to which level you left?
Irina (Thaddeus): I incarnated from the 16th level as Apostle Thaddeus, I left at the 21st.
Kristina: And what tasks did you set for yourself in the Spiritual world before incarnating as Thaddeus?
Irina (Thaddeus): The search for a spiritual teaching that would allow me to transition into the world of Angels, because the 16th level is a transitional one to the world of Angels.
Kristina: And what did you not manage to accomplish?
Irina (Thaddeus): I accomplished everything.
Kristina: All the tasks that were set?
Irina (Thaddeus): I found a spiritual teacher, I found a spiritual teaching, and I began to follow it. I fulfilled my spiritual task.
Kristina: Thank you.
03:26 Presence of Apostle Thaddeus at the crucifixion of Christ.
Kristina: We have a very strong question about the day of the crucifixion. Were you present, and can you describe it?
Irina (Thaddeus): I was present. The soldiers would not let me get close, but I was present in the crowd of people, near the hill on which the crosses stood.
(Irina) I see soldiers on horses with spears, and they are pushing the crowd back, not allowing them to approach.
(Thaddeus) They allowed His mother and some other disciples to approach, but the rest of us, who were standing behind, were pushed back a little.
04:15 Previous and current incarnations of Apostle Thaddeus.
Kristina: Oh, we forgot to say that you are now incarnated — part of your Spirit is incarnated.
Irina (Thaddeus): Yes.
Kristina: And we asked permission...
Irina (Thaddeus): Currently, at this moment, I am incarnated, and permission to communicate with me has been obtained.
(Irina) I'll explain now. He is present here in the form of a phantom that contains the memory of that incarnation as Apostle Thaddeus, Jude, and... He has different names, we've already established.
Kristina: Thank you. And what significant incarnations did you have before Thaddeus?
Irina (Thaddeus): In general, I was incarnated on the planet Burhad and was one of the researchers who visited Earth about six and a half to seven thousand years ago (shows), if you look at the timeline. I had a base on the territory now occupied by Northern Germany, and I was the head of that base, a leader, and I contacted local tribes.
(Irina) What he is talking about now was after the war 12,000 years ago, meaning he came at that time.
(Thaddeus) And I made contact with the local tribes, flew to them, gave them knowledge, information about the Universe, about how to adapt to planet Earth — how to live, how to adapt. And I know that I was deified and an image was created that is now known to you as God Odin. That is, as a thunderer, that was the original image. That was my significant incarnation on Burhad.
As for incarnations on Earth, I have had several more. I will tell you now.
Even before incarnating as Apostle Thaddeus, I had incarnations on Earth, but they were before the war 12,000 years ago, in various tribes, twice as a woman and once as a man. But after that, I also had incarnations, before the one I am in now, that is, there were incarnations after Apostle Thaddeus.
Kristina: How many incarnations were there, interesting?
Irina (Thaddeus): Also on Earth, and also two.
Kristina: Women, men?
Irina (Thaddeus): Twice as a man (shows). Immediately after leaving Apostle Thaddeus, I incarnated. This is not Israel, further north, where Turkey is now.
(Irina) Yes, I understand who it is, he is showing me an image now.
(Thaddeus) I incarnated there from the 21st level, as I already said. This was a Christian teacher named Origen.
Kristina: Origen?
Irina (Thaddeus): Origen. And after this incarnation, I left at the 22nd level. But that happened just over a hundred years after Thaddeus, so quickly.
And after this Origen, I incarnated again as a man, on the territory of Russia, it was the 12th century, and he was a ruler. He was a prince of the city of Ryazan.
Kristina: The city of Ryazan?
Irina: His name was... I'm reading now, like Roman or Romulus, something like that, that's what I hear.
(Thaddeus) And after this incarnation, I incarnated into the one I am in now, that is, a woman. She also lives in Russia.
Kristina: And what tasks are you performing now?
Irina (Thaddeus): I need to go through the lesson again, because I incarnated there from the 22nd level, into this Roman — into the prince of the 12th century. And there I had wars with Novgorod.
Kristina: Internecine?
Irina (Thaddeus): Yes, inter-princely. And I disincarnated and left already at the 11th level.
Kristina: Oh, from the 22nd to the 11th!..
Irina: Yes, he shows the 11th.
(Thaddeus) I am incarnated in Russia, and my task is to go through the lesson of power again, because there I did not go through the lesson of possessing it. That is, it is like a lesson in leadership: leadership, but now with Love.
Kristina: Understood.
Irina (Thaddeus): That is, to repeat the lesson, to untie a karmic knot. That is the task.
Kristina: And probably in the current incarnation, people with whom there were karmic knots will appear?
Irina (Thaddeus): But the incarnated part of this Spirit, my Spirit, is performing the task.
Kristina: Does this woman follow everything that was intended in all respects?
Irina (Thaddeus): She herself knows about it: knows her problems, her tasks, etc.
Kristina: Thank you.
Irina: An interesting apostle!
Kristina: Yes, very interesting.
Irina: But I remind you that the memory that is now present — that is, the Spirit has allocated a certain part that contains precisely the memory of the Thaddeus incarnation, but it has also taken information about his other incarnations.
(Thaddeus) Yes, I already knew how the sessions go, and I knew that this was important information — about where I was — and therefore the Higher Self of this woman sent its phantom already with this information.
(Irina) But we are now talking with that incarnation that was Apostle Thaddeus, it is his memory here.
Kristina: Wonderful! Everything is very interesting.
12:35 "Lord, why do You intend to show Yourself to us and not to the world?"
Kristina: And such a question: tell us about the conversation with Jesus Christ described in the Gospel of John, where you say the phrase: "Lord, why do You intend to show Yourself to us and not to the world?"
Irina (Thaddeus): He was telling us various allegories, different parables, and I asked Him whether He wants to show, to tell the world the same thing He tells us. That is, to reveal His secrets, to explain the meaning of these parables. Because it often happened that He told parables... (connection break)
Irina: Dear friends, we are with you again, we have traditionally lost connection (this has already become a tradition), but that makes the session more interesting. So, dear friends, we continue the session.
Kristina: (reads chat) You write that this is supposedly Matvienko.
Irina: I know this woman, but I have not received permission from her to say who it is. Accordingly, I do not comment on this information in any way.
Kristina: So let's continue.
Irina: Yes.
Kristina: I remind you that you can write questions to us in the Telegram chat, and I am asking questions that came over the week from Tamara, Rafael, Elena, and many others.
We asked a question about the quote: "Lord, why do You intend to show Yourself to us and not to the world?"
Irina (Thaddeus): I said this, asking Him whether He wishes to tell everything He told us and showed us about the mysteries of the world through parables, not only to us but also to the people? Because He gave us the interpretation, but to the people He gave only parables. That is what I asked about.
Kristina: And what did He answer?
Irina (Thaddeus): He answered that He came for everyone. He just speaks to different people in different languages, the language of their understanding. He answered that He came for every person. His mission is for every person. That is, He makes no distinctions.
Kristina: Thank you.
15:41 About the Holy Spirit, Archangel Metatron, and opening the apostles' access to other languages.
Kristina: We are very interested in what dialogues you had with Jesus, so the next question was this. Tell us, what did Jesus mean when He said the following: "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever, the Spirit of truth..."
Irina (Thaddeus): I was speaking about the Day of Pentecost, when the Archangel came. I was speaking about the Spirit whom you know as Archangel Metatron. Jesus confirmed this. That is, when I asked Jesus what He was talking about, He told me: "I was speaking about Archangel Metatron."
(Irina) He is now showing me an image; he knew Him as the Holy Spirit, so to speak, and we know Him under a slightly different image.
(Thaddeus) Therefore He was speaking about the Holy Spirit. That is, I also asked Him what He meant, and He said: "I am telling you about the Holy Spirit." And you know Him as Archangel Metatron.
Kristina: Now it's clear. Thank you.
Irina (Thaddeus): Yes, and that He would come on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecost is a holiday that occurred for the Jews on the fiftieth day after Passover — the Jewish Passover, they also had their own holiday. And precisely on this holiday, to me, to us, to the other apostles and disciples... Because there were just disciples, and there were apostles, and there were twelve chosen apostles, but there were also seventy apostles (shows such a crowd). In general, the word "apostle" means "sent one," "a disciple sent to preach." There were many of them, and they all gathered, and Archangel Metatron came and began to open spiritual channels so that we could understand different languages.
Kristina: Interesting.
Maxim: What does "understand different languages" mean? How, in what form?
Irina (Thaddeus): Archangel Metatron opened our memory, all the apostles, of the languages of different peoples in which we had lived in past lives, in past incarnations.
Kristina: Non-earthly languages?
Irina (Thaddeus): Earthly. We were supposed to go preach to different peoples. When were we supposed to learn those languages? So He opened them for us.
Kristina: So, since you later went to preach in Armenia, the Armenian language was opened to you?
Irina (Thaddeus): Yes, but there weren't Armenians there, there were tribes that spoke a language very close (reads Irina's memory) to what is now Syriac. And accordingly, it was also opened to me. Not only to me, but to the apostles in general.
Kristina: Understood, thank you. And did it depend on this where you went to preach — on which languages were opened to you? Or on something else?
Irina (Thaddeus): There were apostles who had languages opened that, for example, were not opened to others. And there are languages that were embedded in everyone — the languages of closer peoples, because everyone preached there. And the languages of more distant peoples were not opened to everyone. There was such a difference, really.
(Irina) He is now showing how they remember and begin to master the language as their own. Metatron gave them that opportunity. But it was given not just like that, but precisely for preaching the teachings of Jesus Christ and for creating the Church, that is, the egregore. The Church is the Christian egregore. That is, precisely for this purpose, there was (now shows) an impact on the brain, and these languages were given.
(Thaddeus) Yes, there were two ways. Either it was a recollection of past lives, or it was simply as implanted knowledge. Like, perhaps you have seen a person who speaks a language that he himself does not understand, he never studied it. And he begins to speak it like a second language. That is, it is as if implanted in the brain, in his memory.
Kristina: I wish I could too!
21:05 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on the help of the Holy Spirit and Jesus.
Kristina: What other qualities were needed to go preach? Was it scary to go to another country?
Irina (Thaddeus): Was it scary to go to another country?.. No, I was joyful to preach Jesus, I was always with Him, even after His ascension. We believed that He ascended to heaven, to the Heavenly Father. But in Spirit He was always with us, He communicated with us, we were all His contactees, to use language you understand. We could ask Him any question, and He would answer us, and the Holy Spirit would answer us, in the form of a dove. We remember that this is Archangel Metatron, you know Him that way, but we knew Him as the Holy Spirit.
Kristina: Do you continue to communicate with Jesus in close contact now?
Irina (Thaddeus): Yes, I can ask Him.
(Irina) That is, is this the Higher Self of this person? The question is specifically to the Spirit or to the incarnated part? That's somewhat different.
Kristina: I would like both.
Irina: Because he is incarnated, and we are now conversing with the memory of Thaddeus specifically.
Kristina: It's clear that in the form of a Spirit you can contact anyone. But the incarnated part?
Irina (Thaddeus): The incarnated part can also contact anyone through its unincarnated part.
Kristina: Thank you.
Irina: Like everyone.
22:54 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on his kinship with Christ. The Parable of the Sower.
Kristina: I already understood from your previous answer that you had the task of finding a Teacher. I'll ask this question again: what attracted you to Christ that you became His disciple and companion? And here is a list: character traits, ability to heal, or teaching?
Irina (Thaddeus): In general, He was, though not by blood, my cousin: His stepfather was my uncle.
Kristina: Was that the reason?
Irina (Thaddeus): That is, I knew Him from childhood, although I was much younger.
Kristina: What is your favorite parable of Christ?
Irina: About the sower and the seeds. He says that this is his favorite parable.
Kristina: Can you reproduce it verbatim?
Irina (Thaddeus): What do you mean "verbatim"? I just remember the meaning. We do not retain any information verbatim, we only remember its meaning, and this applies to all Spirits.
Kristina: Understood.
Irina (Thaddeus): It is about a sower who went out to sow seeds and sowed one on good, fertile soil, another on rocky ground, and a third on soil that had many weed seeds. And when the fruits grew and it was time to harvest from these seeds, it turned out that what grew on good soil yielded many times (shows — five times) more fruit than was sown, that's how much the harvest increased. That which was on rock — where the rock was lightly covered with soil — yielded very little fruit. And where there were many weed seeds, only they sprouted and choked those plants.
Jesus told this, and we all looked at Him. And He smiled, looked like that, and said: "Well, do you understand what I am talking about, what the meaning of this allegory is?" And we all thought and even argued about what it meant: whether it was Love or something else, some spiritual qualities? In short, what does "sowing seeds" mean, what does the rock mean, and what are these plants an image of? And He later explained the meaning of this parable to us, and everything became very simple.
Kristina: I'd like to hear the meaning of this parable again.
Irina (Thaddeus): By the seed that the sower sowed... And the "sower" meant "preacher," He meant us, the apostles, He told this parable about us.
The "seed" is the Word about Christ. We dispersed to different countries, with this, as it were, "bag of seeds," as sowers. And what we "sowed seeds" meant three types of people, that is, not the people themselves, but the state of their spiritual hearts.
That which "grew on fertile, good, kind soil" meant a person who accepted the Word with all his heart and grew fruits. That is, he had a soft heart, open to the influence of the Word, the influence of the sermon.
As for the seeds sown where there was rocky ground, why were there few fruits? Because the "rock" signified a heart in which there are, in your terms, negative blocks; it was very hard, unopened, and simply did not give root. The person just "for show" believed, and then when some difficulties came upon him, he became angry with God that God had not protected him from difficulties, and he stopped believing. Because the heart was so hard, cruel.
And as for "where weeds grew," He told us that this image means that a person with such a heart accepted the word, but he could not put it into practice because he devoted 90% of his time to material things, and he simply had neither the strength nor the time to engage in spiritual development, cleansing his heart, developing Love, praying to God, and all spiritual practices. He simply worked materially, worked for the sake of his body, for the sake of his children, etc., until he died, that is, left incarnation. And then he had left only what he had cultivated. That is, he simply stifled the spiritual with these material concerns, there were too many of them, and no strength remained for anything else.
(Irina) That is, these are like three types of people.
Kristina: Why did He tell you this parable — so that you would sow more where there is an "open heart," or so that you would be prepared that there could be different outcomes, different reactions?
Irina (Thaddeus): Yes. He did not say that the sower should first check what kind of "soil" there is — whether there is "rock" or "weeds" — He said that He Himself sows regardless of the results. And He told us this, as you correctly noted, so that we would not be offended by people, would not be disappointed if we did not see the results of our activity and our work that we expected.
Kristina: Thank you. Very instructive.
Irina: Interesting.
30:10 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on the deeds of Christ and the friendship of the apostles.
Kristina: Jude, a question: which episodes related to the life of Jesus do you remember most vividly?
Irina: He is showing me many episodes: how they walked around the country, sailed in a boat, how they fished, how He turned water into wine. There are many episodes, how they spent time...
Now he shows me how Jesus gathered the Last Supper. He shows how they gathered for the last time, when Jesus broke bread and gave wine to everyone, and when He gave the wine, He said: "This is the New Covenant of My blood." That is, all this was remembered.
Kristina: Apparently, practically everything was remembered, nothing was forgotten.
Irina: That is, some vivid episodes from his travels. He didn't stay in one place; he walked to different cities.
Kristina: Which of the apostles were you most friendly with and why?
Irina (Thaddeus): We were all like one family, we had no differences. We could all turn to each other.
Kristina: Thank you.
31:32 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on his family.
Kristina: Such a question — how did your parents and other relatives react to you leaving everything, being with Jesus, and then leaving altogether?
Irina (Thaddeus): They reacted well, my father was also an apostle, but only among the seventy, as a disciple.
Kristina: Subsequent questions... (broadcast break)
Irina: ...as disciples of Jesus... The sisters, they were more involved in household chores, they had children. They are women, they have more household worries. But the men — yes, they were disciples.
32:19 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on the path to enlightenment.
Kristina: Did the concept of "enlightened" exist at that time?
Irina (Thaddeus): Of course, if by "enlightened" you mean such a word in Russian?
Kristina: Yes, the very meaning of this word.
Irina (Thaddeus): That meaning has always existed, there have always been enlightened people.
Kristina: Did you become enlightened?
Irina (Thaddeus): Depending on what you mean by "enlightenment."
Kristina: That you comprehended the Truth, and after that material things ceased to concern you, and you understood the essence of everything.
Irina (Thaddeus): If you understand it as raising your level, then yes, I became enlightened: from the 16th to the 21st.
Kristina: Does it require time, practice, like everyone now teaches meditation?
Irina (Thaddeus): It requires faith in yourself, faith in God, and Love. Practices can, of course, be different. They help a person along the path, but the main thing is what I said is necessary.
Kristina: Yes, understood.
Irina (Thaddeus): And everything else is just support, help, a tool.
Kristina: Such a question, perhaps primitive: who finds it easier to be enlightened, and who can become enlightened faster — men or women?
Irina (Thaddeus): In Christ there is no difference, man or woman, because all are His children. In God there is no difference.
Kristina: Thank you.
33:40 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on attitude toward pagans.
Kristina: So, a question is asked here: what was your attitude toward pagans, and how did you preach Christianity to them?
Irina (Thaddeus): Are you asking me personally? I can speak for myself.
Kristina: Yes, go ahead.
Irina (Thaddeus): How did I feel about pagans? I fulfilled the commandment "love your neighbor as yourself." For me there was no difference — pagan or not pagan — I simply carried the truth that Christ brought. And if it came into conflict with the "truth" that the pagans believed in, I simply spoke about my faith. But I understood that it was up to them to accept it or not. That's how, with Love.
Kristina: Did you choose words, choose meanings that were understandable to them?
Irina (Thaddeus): That inevitably happens when preaching; after all, I preached not to academic scholars, but to common people. How do you think we spoke to them, what terms did we use? Those that they understand.
Kristina: Understood.
34:58 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on the difficulties of carrying the Word of Christ.
Kristina: And here's the next question: were there any difficulties, challenges that you encountered during your missionary activity?
Irina (Thaddeus): The only difficulty was that I was taken out of incarnation.
Kristina: Well, anticipating this question...
Irina (Thaddeus): But otherwise, God helped me in everything. And even then, what is the difficulty? That I experienced several hours of suffering? Is that a difficulty? For the material body — yes, it was difficult for me. But now, when I have entered the Spiritual world and fully realized myself as Spirit, outside the body, for me it was only like a dream from which you wake up, and which no longer has any significance.
Kristina: Yes, I understand.
Irina (Thaddeus): In a dream, you can also dream of death, for example.
Kristina: You can.
Irina (Thaddeus): And when you wake up, you forget about it.
Kristina: Well, yes, it happened and it's over.
Irina (Thaddeus): And there is the same difference between perception when you are in a body and it dies a violent death, and when you have already left it.
36:19 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on the circumstances of his death.
Kristina: Since we've started talking about it, I'd like to know how your disincarnation happened? And where? Was it a martyr's death?
Irina (Thaddeus): It happened because they became envious of me (shows envy) for my healing. I had disciples, and I also healed and baptized. And many people came to me. And others, who were like priests but of other gods, became envious. They also practiced healing, but they did not have such results. And all the people came to me. So there was this envy. That is, not because I believed differently than they did — it was like personal revenge, personal envy. And there was, as it were, a conspiracy.
I healed one woman of a disease you call (shows) a uterine tumor. Not me, of course, but through me Christ healed, I just laid on hands. But people always perceive it as if I myself healed; for them there is no difference, especially for such common people who bowed to every tree — for them, these were all gods. For example, they performed rituals, and when a thunderstorm came and lightning flashed, they prayed in fear and horror that the god of thunder would not burn their harvests, and in general they deified all of nature.
I did not condemn; for me it was rather interesting, like how you, for example, look at children who explain: "If I can't write, it means the pen is bad." That is, they transfer the cause — "it's wrong" or something else. How you look at children. I had such a (shows) condescending, kind attitude, that is, without pride.
And among these people there were also sick people, and so I healed this woman who had a uterine tumor. But it so happened that her husband got into a fight with other men, and they killed him with a stone (shows how the fight was). And she went to these priests, and they asked her about everything, and she told them that she had been to me, and they became envious. And they told her that because I healed her, her husband's life was the payment. That I did not heal by the power of Christ, but performed, as it were, a magical transfer of her illness and took her husband's life in exchange.
Accordingly, first there was a rumor, it began to spread, and people began to say that it was dangerous to come to me. And then they formed a conspiracy and decided to attack me (shows) as a sorcerer. That if a person is a healer — he is, so to speak, an evil sorcerer who harms everyone. They simply began to fear me. And if some misfortune happened to them, they blamed it all on me. Say, wolves killed a sheep — he is to blame. They would begin to remember that "some relative was his" (and I had many there, actually), and they blamed it all on me. And the priests only supported these rumors, fanned them, and in the end...
Kristina: And where did this happen?
Irina: Where did it happen? He shows me a map, some point, the city of Martianus, I don't know, it's not our language, not Russian. But he now shows me a point on the map, distance... it's south of Yerevan, about 115 kilometers.
(Thaddeus) Yes, and they attacked me, began to torture me (shows)...
(Irina) Any more questions?
Kristina: Yes, there are questions. So it turns out that this was planned, such a disincarnation, or not?
Irina (Thaddeus): There was a probability, a small one, but there was. I simply caused such a reaction myself, by my actions. Yes, of course, there was a spiritual reason (I already feel your next question): I could have left there, for example, not waited until an angry mob broke into my dwelling. I was warned, including by Angels, and even my disciples offered to secretly transport me in some cart to another city before they started looking for me. And I kept saying that I would simply go out to the people if they came and would be able to convince them. There was such arrogance. I could not.
Kristina: And how old were you?
Irina (Thaddeus): 42.
Kristina: 42 years old, understood.
43:33 Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus on Armenians and other peoples.
Kristina: Such a question: how do you assess the spiritual state of modern Armenians? Do you observe them?
Irina (Thaddeus): All peoples have their achievements and their problems, I don't single out anyone in particular, there are Christians and non-Christians everywhere, and I look at the spiritual state only individually for each person.
Kristina: Is my state visible now?
Irina: Good question.
Kristina: You don't have to answer.
Irina (Thaddeus): You know it yourself.
Kristina: Good answer. I didn't expect anything else.
Irina: Interesting.
44:19 Advice to all inhabitants of Earth on accepting oneself and the world.
Kristina: There was a question: give us recommendations, the inhabitants of Earth, on how to learn to love and accept both good and bad, both light and dark — everything that you have learned from your own experience.
Irina (Thaddeus): How to learn to accept? You will not learn to accept anything in the external world until you have accepted everything within yourself. You will not learn to love people until you have learned to love yourself. And what does that mean?
Firstly, this is a spiritual path that can be described step by step, but I will tell you. It is forgiving yourself for past mistakes and a firm decision, determination to move forward. And here will must be shown, because many people find it enough to simply talk about spirituality, about spiritual development, but at the same time not take any action. Their spirituality is expressed only in words. And accordingly, their heart does not change from this, because they do not perform real actions in Love.
And when you love yourself and look around you with eyes full of Love, thoughts and ideas will come to you — from your Higher Self and from your curators — about what actions are needed specifically for you, specifically in your specific place, and specifically at your specific moment. This is all very individual, but you will know and understand it for sure in your heart — not with your mind, but feeling with your heart.
Kristina: So it turns out that if we are asking questions — it means we haven't felt this yet. Only when clarity comes, questions about one's state, about further development fall away. Correct?
Irina (Thaddeus): The question was about how to accept. Accept yourself, and then you will look at any person with eyes of Love. Because even if you see his sins, his anger, his cruelty, his some kind of inadequacy as a person — since you already love yourself, you will have no desire to elevate yourself above him, to prove that you are better than him. You will look at him with compassion and a desire to help, and the desire to help already generates a flow of Love towards him.
Kristina: Thank you.
Irina (Thaddeus): That's regarding accepting people.
Regarding accepting some situations that happen to you — this may be even more difficult, because a person may be easy to accept, with his opinions, sins. But if a situation happens to you where you find yourself in a stream of events that lead you to suffering, accepting this... And also understanding that you are a servant of God, upon whom He looks, whom the entire Universe obeys, and despite this, you suffer... Here it can be very difficult to accept this as the will of God and very easy to be offended at God for allowing it.
(Session interrupted)
February 15, 2024
Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova — contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, subtle-material civilizations, and the Spiritual world;
Maxim Rusan — director of the "Cassiopeia" Project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
Kristina Trufanova — host of "Cassiopeia TV" channel;
Spirit of Apostle Thaddeus — Jude of James, one of the 12 disciples of Christ.
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