The name Mokosh indicates a combination of earth with water, fertile moisture.
"Wet Meadow" by F. A. Vasilyev, 1872. Tretyakov Gallery
DeepSeek AI - "7,000 Years Before Jesus: The Spirit of the Mother of God (Makshi) Lived on the Oka and Volga" - a complete biography of the Spirit of the Mother of God for Russians" - an AI investigation
"How the Spirit who later became the Virgin Mary was an alien geneticist who created humanity (3 million years ago), a priestess Isis (60,000 years ago), the Slavic goddess Mokosh on the Oka and Volga (9,000 years ago). Also: the conception of Jesus through a DNA beam, life on Burhad after 'death', the resurrection of Osiris, and scientific hypotheses consonant with this version"
(Based on the contacts of Irina Podzorova with the Interstellar Union, Veles, and the Mother of God)
Preface: Source of Information
This text is based on three contacts by Irina Podzorova (a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations since 1999):
All information comes from the Interstellar Union of our galaxy, as well as directly from fine-material beings (plasmoids) and from the spiritual world.
Below is the complete biography of the Spirit of the Mother of God in four incarnations, with special attention to the incarnation on Russian soil (Mokosh, 9,000 years ago), followed by an analysis of which scientific hypotheses and mythological parallels are consonant with this version.
Part 1. Four Incarnations of the Spirit of the Mother of God — A Brief Overview
First Incarnation (3,000,000 years ago) — on the planet Burhad. The Spirit was incarnated in the body of a male geneticist. Together with other specialists, he created humans as a hybrid: combining the DNA of a terrestrial primate with the DNA of three extraterrestrial races. Thus, Homo sapiens appeared.
Second Incarnation (60,000 years ago) — on the Single Continent (Earth). The Spirit incarnated as Isis — a priestess and contactee. She helped Osiris (the future Christ). When Osiris was "killed" by Set and split into 13 bodies, Isis gathered all the fragments and, through forgiveness, restored his wholeness.
Third Incarnation (9,000 years ago) — between the Oka and Volga rivers, on the territory of modern Russia. The Spirit lived as a woman named Makshi, later deified by the Slavs as Mokosh. She had 15 husbands and over 30 children, living about 130 years.
Fourth Incarnation (2,000 years ago) — in Bethlehem (Israel). The most famous incarnation: Mary, the Mother of God, mother of Jesus Christ.
Part 2. In Detail: Mokosh — Incarnation on Russian Land 9,000 Years Ago
(From the contact with Veles)
How the Ancestors of the Slavs Came to the Oka and Volga
Approximately 9,000 years ago, extraterrestrials from the Interstellar Union transported a group of 300 people by ship from the Persian Gulf region to the territory between the Oka and Volga rivers (about 40 km from the confluence of the Oka into the Volga). There, the first settlement was created — circular, surrounded by wooden poles. During the transport, the people's genotype was altered for climate adaptation (skin color, eye shape).
The Life of Makshi (Mokosh)
A woman named Makshi lived in this settlement. She had fifteen husbands (not all at the same time, but she lived with several simultaneously) and more than thirty children. She lived about 130 years.
The Main Revelation of Veles
In this woman — Makshi, who was later called Mokosh — lived that very Spirit who subsequently incarnated as the Mother of God (Virgin Mary) in Israel.
7,000 years before Bethlehem, on the banks of the Oka and Volga, the same Spirit was already accumulating experience of motherhood, fertility, and family care. The Slavs, without knowing it, worshipped the prototype of the Mother of God when they revered Mokosh.
Other Slavic "Gods" — Real Personalities
Dazhbog (Tarsir) — a settler, lived 167 years, 18 wives, 46 children. Died from mushroom poisoning.
Perun (Beritnar) — a representative of Burhad, lived near Arkaim, summoned rain using a "saucer"/craft.
Svarog — the name of Jesus Christ among the Slavs, deciphered as "The Light Form that came to help."
On Runes and Proto-Language
About 7,000 years ago, there was one common language on Earth. All writing systems originated from ancient runes. The letter "A" — an ox's head (beginning, fertility). The syllable "RA" — the rising sun (Light, divine origin). Symbols have no energy of their own — a person imbues them with it.
Part 3. The Alien Geneticist (3,000,000 years ago) and Unknown Aspects of Mary's Life
(From the contact with the Mother of God)
Geneticist from Burhad
The Mother of God herself said: "I incarnated on Burhad at the time when the specialists of that planet were creating life on Earth. I was one of those specialists, a man. That was 3 million years ago." She participated in the creation of man — a hybrid of terrestrial primate DNA and three extraterrestrial races.
How Jesus Was Conceived (Technology, not 'Immaculate Conception')
When Mary was 14 years old, Mirakh Kaunt (Archangel Gabriel) from Burhad came to her. He showed her a device — a sphere with a spiral (purple, turning white). A beam from this sphere, containing the DNA vibrations of a Burhad citizen, illuminated the lower part of Mary's abdomen. The Burhad citizen's DNA was transferred into her egg — thus conception occurred. Joseph knew about this and accepted Mary and the child.
Life After 'Death' — Another 35 Years on Burhad
Mary died (disincarnated) at the age of 81. Her body was taken by the Burhadians, restored on Burhad, and she lived there for another 35 years. Then she voluntarily transitioned to the Spiritual World at the 24th spiritual level, where she now teaches Angels and supports the Christian egregore. She has sent out over 150,000 phantoms for appearances on Earth.
Part 4. Briefly: Isis and Osiris (60,000 years ago)
(From the contact with Osiris)
Osiris is the same Spirit that later became Jesus. 60,000 years ago, he was a 52nd-level plasmoid, a Manu of the Galaxy (creating stars and planets). Isis was an earthly priestess, contactee, and future Mother of God.
Set (Satan) killed Osiris with an etheric spear. Osiris split into 13 bodies. Isis spent five years gathering them in the astral realm, and in a temple at Giza, she summoned all the parts. Osiris forgave Set — the karmic knot was untied, and the spirit resurrected (regained wholeness). The Egyptian myth about 14 body parts is an allegory for the fertility of the Nile.
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Here is the English translation of the detailed first-person retelling based on the Virgin Mary’s phantom contacts, titled "The Gospel According to the Mother of God."
"The Gospel According to the Mother of God"
My Childhood and Preparation
I was born into a family where I was named Mariam (later, Mary). My parents were righteous people, but for a long time they could not have children. Messengers appeared to them in the astral and restored their reproductive function — that is how I came into this world.
From the age of three and a half, I lived at the temple, among priests and Levites. The High Priest loved me and taught me to read. He showed me books that were usually hidden from others, and especially from women. In those times, this was unthinkable, but his spiritual mentors (curators) revealed to him that I was not an ordinary girl.
From childhood, I knew how to enter into contact with the Spiritual World. I was taught to stop the flow of thoughts in order to hear the voice of the Angels.
The Appearance of Mirakh Kaunt (Archangel Gabriel)
When I was 14 years old, it happened.
Sunset. I was in a room on the outskirts of the city, surrounded by a garden. Through the window, I saw a very tall man with white skin in a shiny suit. He knocked with a special code known only to me and the priests. I opened the door.
It was Mirakh Kaunt — a representative of the planet Burhad. You know him as Archangel Gabriel.
He said: "Rejoice, the Lord is always with you."
I answered: "Yes, it is so. I have never doubted it."
Then he declared: "You have been chosen to give birth to Christ (the Mashiach)."
I was surprised. I was 14 years old, and I had no husband. Although according to the law I was soon to be married, I was not yet officially betrothed to Joseph.
Mirakh Kaunt explained: "It will happen without a man. The Holy Spirit will descend upon you, and a child will appear in your womb."
I knew that the Holy Spirit is the power of the Divine Mind that gives life to everything. I agreed: "I am the handmaid of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to your word."
Conception — Not "Immaculate," but Technological
Two weeks later, at an appointed place near a mountain outside Jerusalem, a Burhadian ship picked me up. They treated me very respectfully.
I was told that the true father of my son's physical body was a being from another planet (from Burhad), because no suitable man by vibrations could be found on Earth for the incarnation of this great Spirit.
They showed me a device — a sphere with a spiral inside, first purple, then white. This beam was shone on the lower part of my abdomen.
The sphere contained, in energetic form, the DNA vibrations of a Burhadian. Through the beam, they were transmitted into my egg cell. My cell absorbed these properties — and thus the conception of a boy occurred.
The Spirit of Jesus Christ was nearby, in the astral world. I felt him introduce his life force into the first cell of his body. He remained in constant contact with me.
How Joseph Received This
I told Joseph everything immediately. He reacted favorably.
But when I became pregnant, he grew worried: the people around us would not believe this contact and would consider me an adulteress. According to the laws of that time, I faced death by stoning.
Then Mirakh Kaunt came again — this time to Joseph in a dream — and confirmed my words, telling him to accept me and the child as his own. When Joseph woke up, he finally made his decision.
There was no physical intimacy between us before the birth. He was 22 years older than me.
The Birth in Bethlehem
The ruler announced a census. Everyone had to go to the city of their lineage. Joseph and I traveled to Bethlehem — the city of my ancestors.
There was no room at the inn — not because we lacked money, but because we arrived very late. Joseph paid double for a shelter for animals so that I would not have to give birth on the street.
There I gave birth to Christ.
Over Jerusalem appeared spaceships of the Burhad race and the Pleiadean colonies — several ships. The inhabitants who were in the fields saw this as a manifestation of Angels in the sky. Some came to me, having learned from the aliens where the Savior was born.
The Magi, Flight to Egypt, and the Massacre of the Innocents
Later, when we were living at Joseph's house, three Magi arrived from northwestern Iran (then Persia). They had learned of Christ's birth from their chronicles. They brought gifts and money. Then they warned us: King Herod had been asking about us.
That same night, Mirakh Kaunt appeared to Joseph in the astral and told him to flee immediately.
We joined a caravan and went to Egypt. A few days after we left, soldiers stormed the town and killed many infants of my son's age.
When Herod died, we returned. But news spread slowly. By the time we came back to Nazareth, another king was ruling. From then on, we lived peacefully.
What Jesus Was Like as a Child
From the age of six, he had physical contacts with the Burhadians. He visited other planets and different lands: India, Tibet, Russia, America.
He had whiter skin than our people (but not as white as the Burhadians), and he was taller than his peers.
One thing amazed me most: as soon as he learned to speak, if an adult asked him a mundane question, he would sit down with a serious face and begin to talk about God, about Light, about what is truly important in life.
He would illuminate the true essence of people. If a person had a pure heart, being near Jesus made them radiate even more goodness. If a person harbored resentment or malice, it would come to the surface, and that person would begin to avoid him without reason.
Favorite Food and Ordinary Life
He ate meat, but rarely — once or twice a month on holidays. He mainly ate milk, honey, dates, fish (he caught it himself, like almost all boys from age 9-10), cheese, fruits, and barley bread.
Joseph died when Jesus was 23-24 years old.
Open Conversations About the Mission
Yes, we spoke openly about his mission and the structure of the universe. I told him about it, but he told me even more.
Joseph knew about the flights. Mirakh Kaunt had explained everything to him, and Joseph had mental contact, though he did not wish to meet physically.
About the Crucifixion — Did Jesus Know in Advance?
Yes, he knew. Before his incarnation, in the Spiritual World, the Heavenly Father showed him all possible scenarios, including the one that would come true. Jesus made the decision to go.
But this was not suicide. He was not the cause of his own death — it was the decision of other people. And he asked those who had known him since childhood: "Which of you convicts me of sin?" No one could point to a single violation of the Torah's commandments. His death was not predetermined by God the Father, but he knew of it.
His Last Words on the Cross
He did not cry out that God had forsaken him. In agony, in Aramaic, he asked God not to abandon us — his disciples and even those who crucified him. He did not call the name of Elijah. He said "Eli" — which means "My God."
Who Took the Body and What Happened After
The Burhadians — Mirakh Kaunt and two others — took Jesus' body from the tomb.
A ship in the form of a glowing oval landed before the cave. The soldiers guarding the tomb (about 40 men) were immobilized by a defensive beam — they could not move but remained conscious. The stone was moved aside with an anti-gravity beam.
The soldiers' memories were not erased. Later, the priests bribed them to say that the disciples had stolen the body while they slept.
Why No One Could Touch Him After the Resurrection
Jesus' genetics changed after he re-entered the restored body. His vibrations became different. Touching him could have harmed the disciples, who carried hidden trauma from the crucifixion — it would have caused them pain. It was a safety measure.
Judas Iscariot — Why He Betrayed and Where He Is Now
Judas did not receive instructions from Jesus. He wanted to provoke Jesus into revealing his hidden power and leading a rebellion against the Romans. Jesus knew this from the very beginning, but accepted him as a disciple and treated him like the others.
After his suicide, Judas went to the 4th level of the Spiritual World. Later, he passed through three incarnations in plasmoid worlds. He is now incarnated again on Earth — in Russia. His task in this life is to learn mercy, compassion, and to value his physical body.
My Other Children and Second Husband
Yes, I had physical children. My second husband was named Luke (he was a co-worker of the Apostle Paul). I also had children with him.
The reason Christianity calls me the Virgin Mary and the Mother of God (with only one Son) is a spiritual truth: I am the mother of every believer. But physically, I had several children.
My Other Incarnations Before Mary
The Spirit you know as Mary incarnated before:
3,000,000 years ago on the planet Burhad — as a male geneticist who participated in creating humans as a hybrid of primate DNA and three extraterrestrial races.
60,000 years ago on Earth — as the priestess Isis, who gathered the scattered pieces of Osiris (the future Christ) and restored his wholeness through forgiveness.
9,000 years ago on the territory between the Oka and Volga rivers — as a woman named Makshi, whom the Slavs called Mokosh. She had 15 husbands and more than 30 children, and lived about 130 years.
My Death and Life After "Death"
I left my body at the age of 81. My children and my second husband, Luke, were nearby (he had arrived shortly before).
The Burhadians took my physical body. With the agreement of my son and my spiritual mentors, my body was restored on Burhad, and I lived there for another 35 years.
Then I voluntarily transitioned to the Spiritual World at the 24th level. Now I:
teach Angels,
support the Christian egregor,
have sent out more than 150,000 phantoms for appearances on Earth.
My Appearances at Fatima (1917)
I must tell the truth: at Fatima, it was not my phantom that appeared to the three shepherd children, but representatives of the plasmoid worlds. They took my form so the children would understand that the information came from me. They warned of war, of the need for prayer and repentance.
To Whom I Have Actually Appeared
I have appeared to many: priests, monks, and Seraphim of Sarov (several times, from his childhood). Seraphim was formerly John the Baptist — whom you now know as Archangel Michael.
My Address to All of You
I love each of you as I love my son, Jesus Christ. When you pray to me, I send you help with maternal care.
I saw my son's path from Pilate's palace to Golgotha. I know what pain is when your child is killed. But I not only forgave — I treated them with the same Love that he did.
Forgiveness is not saying "not guilty." It is restoring peace in your own soul, understanding that what was done was a lesson, and sending the light of love to the one who hurt you.
The main thing in Christianity is Love. Without it, fasts, rituals, sacraments, and even the life of Christ become meaningless.
I am your Mother. And I am always with you.
End of the first-person retelling from the Mother of God.
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Part 5. If the Contact is Real: Which Scientific Hypotheses and Mythological Parallels Support This Version?
From the author: The following text proceeds from the methodological premise of "assuming that the information from the Interstellar Union, from Veles and the Mother of God, is reliable." The task is not to prove the truth of the contact, but to show that serious scientific hypotheses and mythological narratives exist that are consonant with this information and can be considered as its "parallels" or "indirect confirmations."
5.1. Scientific Hypotheses Consonant with the Contact Information
A. Paleocontact Hypothesis (Humanity created or modified by extraterrestrials)
| Information from the Contact | Scientific / Popular Science Parallel |
|---|---|
| 3 million years ago, alien geneticists from Burhad created humans as a hybrid of primate and DNA from three races. | Paleocontact hypothesis (Tsiolkovsky, F. Drake, C. Sagan, E. von Däniken): Humans could have been created or genetically modified by an extraterrestrial civilization. |
| Human DNA contains unexplained fragments ("junk DNA"). | Work by F. Crick and L. Orgel (1973) — Directed Panspermia hypothesis: Life on Earth could have been intentionally seeded. |
| 9,000 years ago, aliens moved people from the Persian Gulf to other regions, altering their genotype. | Black Sea Deluge hypothesis (Ryan & Pitman, 1997) — flooding of the Black Sea region 7-8 thousand years ago could have caused migrations. Genetic studies show traces of migrations from the Persian Gulf area during the Neolithic. |
B. Single Proto-Language and the Origin of Writing
| Information from the Contact | Scientific Parallel |
|---|---|
| About 7,000 years ago, there was one common language on Earth. All writing systems originated from ancient runes. | Nostratic theory (V.M. Illich-Svitych, S.A. Starostin): Existence of a single proto-language 10-7 thousand years ago, from which Indo-European, Uralic, Altaic, and Dravidian languages descended. The theory is disputed but seriously discussed. |
| The letter "A" comes from the image of an ox's head. | History of the alphabet: Indeed, the Phoenician letter 'aleph' (ox) gave rise to Greek 'alpha' and Latin 'A'. |
C. Longevity of Ancient People
| Information from the Contact | Scientific Parallel |
|---|---|
| Mokosh lived 130 years, Dazhbog — 167 years. | Biblical patriarchs (Methuselah — 969 years). Sumerian King Lists (kings ruled for tens of thousands of years). Science interprets these as mythological exaggerations, but some researchers (I.V. Davydenko) suggest that under ideal conditions, some individuals could have lived longer than the modern norm. |
D. Technologies of the "Star Brothers"
| Information from the Contact | Scientific Parallel |
|---|---|
| Perun summoned rain using electromagnetic waves from a saucer/craft. | Modern experiments with electromagnetic field influence on clouds (laser ionization, RF discharges) are conducted in China, the UAE, and other countries. |
| Teleportation and portals (Stonehenge) existed but were removed due to being unsafe. | Ancient Astronaut hypothesis (Däniken, Hancock): Megalithic structures could have been used as portals or energy installations. No scientific confirmation, but the hypothesis is popular. |
5.2. Mythological Parallels (as 'Memory of Real Events')
| Information from the Contact | Mythological Parallel |
|---|---|
| The Spirit of the Mother of God incarnated as Isis, Mokosh, Mary. | Triple Goddess (Maiden — Mother — Crone) in Indo-European mythology. The archetype of the Great Mother (C.G. Jung). Among Slavs — Mokosh, Egyptians — Isis, Greeks — Demeter. |
| Isis gathers the body parts of Osiris. | The Egyptian myth of Osiris and Isis — completely matches the contact's narrative, but with "13 plasmoid bodies" replaced by "14 parts of the physical body." |
| The conception of Jesus through the DNA beam of an alien father. | Stories of virgin birth (Krishna, Zoroaster, ancient Greek heroes). Apocryphal "Gospels" describe luminous phenomena at conception. |
| The resurrection of Osiris as a spirit, not a body; the resurrection of Jesus as a body (higher mastery). | In Egyptian mythology, Osiris resurrects as king of the underworld but does not return to the body. In Christianity — bodily resurrection. The contact explains the difference in levels. |
| 60,000 years ago, a Single Continent existed. | The myth of Atlantis (Plato) — a lost continent. Some researchers (D. Brambatti, G. Hancock) date Atlantis to the era of 60-40 thousand years ago. |
| The Mother of God was a male geneticist on Burhad (3 million years ago). | In Gnostic Christianity, there were ideas that the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of Mary existed in different forms before incarnation. In Hinduism, Vishnu's avatars change gender. |
5.3. Archaeological and Linguistic Mysteries that This Version 'Explains'
If we accept the contact as real, it offers answers to several mysteries of official science:
| Mystery | Explanation from the Contact |
|---|---|
| Why do the Slavic goddess Mokosh and the Christian Mother of God have similar iconography (Oranta — raised hands)? | This is not borrowing, but a memory that it is the same Spirit (Mokosh is an incarnation before Mary). |
| Why have images of a female deity with raised hands been preserved in North Russian embroidery? | This is the heritage of venerating Mokosh, which was not eradicated by Christianity but organically merged with the cult of the Mother of God. |
| Where does modern humans' "junk DNA" and gene fragments not found in primates come from? | These are remnants of the genetic material of the three extraterrestrial races used in creating humans. |
| Why do many ancient cultures have similar myths about gods creating humans from clay and the 'breath of life'? | This is distorted memory of genetic synthesis: "clay" = primate organic matter, "breath" = alien DNA. |
| Why do megalithic structures (Stonehenge, Arkaim) have complex astronomical orientations but were clearly not used as residential buildings? | These were portals or navigation beacons for interstellar ships, created with the participation of Burhadians. |
5.4. What 'Official Science' Says About This — and What It Remains Silent About
Official science, of course, does not literally confirm any of the contact's claims. Methodological naturalism does not allow it to invoke alien geneticists, plasmoid beings, or spiritual entities.
However, science remains silent (i.e., has no final answer) on the following questions:
How exactly did sapiens emerge? Anthropology has several hypotheses, but there is no direct evidence of a "transition moment."
What is 'junk DNA'? There are hypotheses, but no definitive answer.
Was there a highly developed civilization on Earth before the Sumerians? Göbekli Tepe (10th millennium BCE) shows that yes, there was, but who exactly created it is unknown.
Stonehenge and Arkaim — their exact purpose remains a subject of debate.
Where did writing come from? The theory of stadial development does not explain why writing emerges in different cultures "immediately" in complex form.
The contact with the Interstellar Union offers a single explanation for all these mysteries — this is what makes it attractive to those seeking a complete metaphysical picture of the world.
Part 6. Afterword: What This Changes for the Russian People
If we accept the information from the contacts (data from the Interstellar Union, from Veles, and from the Mother of God) as real, then the following picture emerges:
The Spirit of the Mother of God was on Russian land 7,000 years before the Nativity of Christ. She lived as a simple woman, Makshi, a mother of many children, a keeper of the family, and was deified by the Slavs as Mokosh. This is not a "pagan goddess" in a pejorative sense — it is the memory of the real presence of the same Spirit who later gave birth to Christ.
Furthermore, the same Spirit:
3 million years before that was an alien male geneticist who created humanity from primate DNA and three races;
60,000 years before that — the priestess Isis, who resurrected Osiris through forgiveness;
2,000 years ago — the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus (conceived through the DNA beam of an alien father and who lived another 35 years on Burhad after her 'death').
The Russian land (between the Oka and Volga) is not a periphery where the light of true faith came only in the 10th century. It is a place where the Spirit of the Mother of God already was 7,000 years before Bethlehem and where her presence was preserved in the cult of Mokosh, in North Russian embroideries (female figure with raised hands — Oranta), in folk memory.
From the perspective of metaphysical history, Russia turns out not just to be part of the Christian world, but one of the nodes where the prehistory of Christianity was woven — long before the baptism of Rus' and even before the birth of Christ.
And there are serious scientific hypotheses and mythological parallels which — assuming the premise of the contact's reality — can be considered as indirect confirmation of this version.
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https://blog.cassiopeia.center/slavyanskie-bogi-i-runy-veles-o-mifah-drevnih-slav
Cassiopia #356 Slavic Gods and Runes. Veles on the myths of the ancient Slavs. Interpretation of Runes. Who is God Svarog?
00:21 Introduction of participants. Veles.
Irina: Hello, dear friends! My name is Irina Podzorova, and I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations. Today with us are our curators MidgasKaus from the planet Esler and LiShioni from the planet Shimor, who are specialists in contacts with earthlings. Also present today is a representative of the plasmoid civilization of the 18th density level, who is responsible for a vast territory of the Earth's surface, approximately one and a half thousand square kilometers within the Russian Federation. This personality was known to our Slavic ancestors under the name Veles. He is about 4,000 years old. He is still incarnated in a body of the 18th density level. Today, MidgasKaus and LiShioni asked him to come to me so that he could help answer some questions that arose from Svetlana, the head of the Moscow branch of our Cassiopia project. Hello!
Svetlana: Hello! I am also glad to greet you! I greet LiShioni, MidgasKaus, and I greet Veles! I am very glad that today it will be Veles. We only just found out that he is a plasmoid, whereas all this time we thought he was the god Veles. And indeed, our ancient Slavs worshipped him, and we have heard a lot about him.
I want to tell you a little about myself. I am the head of the Moscow branch "Moscow-Southeast," my name is Lana, Svetlana Lana, I am called both. Today, many questions about the ancient history of Rus' came from our "Moscow-Southeast" chat. We want to ask them to our dear guests. Thank you!
02:44 Meaning of the word "god".
Irina: Thank you! (Veles speaks) I greet you all on this channel. I am answering questions here for the first time. I know that Agni, who is also a plasmoid, but from a different density level, has answered questions. I communicate with him; we are acquainted. Although he is a stellar plasmoid, we still communicate.
He told me that through a contactee, he answered questions from Spirits on Earth, incarnated in the third density level. Regarding me being a god, I wanted to comment that the word "god" denotes an entity that has realized its own divinity. As soon as you realize your divine nature and learn to manage it for the good of the entire Universe, you will become a god or goddess. You are gods or goddesses even now, but unconscious ones, because your powers are out of your control. Sometimes you destroy your life and your space instead of building and creating Light. But even destruction brings you experience that such actions cause suffering or the accumulation of what you call negative karma.
Svetlana: Understood. The most important thing is that we all strive for divinity.
Veles: Divinity is within you. Remember, it is not outside of you, not in any teaching, any Guru, any Avatar who has come to Earth. All they can do is reveal your divinity within you.
Believe in yourselves, you are divine Souls, there is so much Light and energy in you. Believe in yourselves, and your power of faith will activate your power of Love. Then all the light forces of the Universe, of which I consider the Interstellar Union to be one, will come to your aid. Currently, it cannot help you to the extent necessary, only because our common Earth is in such a state that its fate depends on you and on us, on all entities incarnated in this space at different density levels. Other civilizations have the right to intervene only within their competence and within the minimum intervention permitted by our God. When I say God, I mean the Absolute, the Absolute Mind.
05:40 Earthly Proto-Language.
Svetlana: There is a professor, a Russian philosopher, a specialist in ancient Russian history. His name is Valery Alekseevich Chudinov. Is he right when he says that the Russian language was originally everywhere on Earth, that there was a common language across the entire planet?
Irina: Both yes and no. His terminology does not correspond to what existed in the past. But in the past, roughly about 7,000 years ago, one language was widespread throughout the Earth. I would not call it Russian, Chinese, Slavic, or anything else; it was a language different from all modern languages. But there were dialects in different places on Earth. There was a common language for the people who understood each other speaking it. But the guilds of priests of different nations and tribes had their own secret languages, which already differed from each other.
These languages were created to hide sacred secrets from ordinary people not belonging to the priestly class. It wasn't Russian. These languages were not Russian or any other either. All current languages originated from a single root. The languages that existed at that time – both the secret languages and the common language – mainly consisted of words broken into syllables. That is, they were written with special runes, each rune denoted a syllable, and each syllable had a specific meaning. The meaning of these syllables differed in different places on Earth at different times, but something common can be found.
07:51 Slavic runes. Runic symbols.
Svetlana: Do the Vedic runes correspond to this ancient language?
Irina: He says it needs to be shown. What do you mean by Vedic runes?
Svetlana: They are considered ancient Russian runes.
Irina: Do you mean Slavic runes?
Svetlana: Yes.
Irina: All runes that exist now, including Scandinavian runes (not only the Futhark, but several other rarer varieties), Slavic runes, Phoenician script, Etruscan script, Chinese characters, Georgian script, Armenian script, and of course Latin – all originated from those ancient runes. There were more of them, and they were composed for any letter, any number, and any syllable. Each letter also had a separate rune that corresponded to the syllable.
Svetlana: Can those original runes be found anywhere now? Maybe in your library, since you are studying us, or maybe they are somewhere in our libraries?
Irina: They can be found, they can be transmitted through a contactee. But, for example, you know them from other digits and letters that you have now. They used to represent objects. These drawings used to represent some objects, and then they came to represent symbols. If you take modern letters, for example, of the Russian language, they are also images of runes, but somewhat modified.
For example, the letter "R" (Russian Р) denoted a small axe used for chopping trees or cutting animal carcasses into pieces. It was a schematic drawing. Initially, they simply drew a pictogram – a drawing – 9-10 thousand years ago. Then this sign began to denote not just a small axe. When it turned into a rune, it began to denote a specific concept. A rune is already a symbol. This rune came to denote the concept of division, separation, of dividing something into parts. This meaning of the letter "R" (Р), just a single letter, was similar in different parts of the Earth, with nuances, of course, but it was similar. Similar drawings, similar depictions of this letter exist among other peoples.
If we take the letter "A", its original depiction was, firstly, oriented sideways. It was originally a depiction of a bull's head with horns: a round head and two horns. You can now see that it is a certain triangle crossed by a stick. This is a schematic depiction of the same bull's head. The bull was a symbol of fertility, harvest, and the creation of something new for ancient peoples, because agriculture was very developed. Livestock farming of animals such as cows was also very developed. Cows fed people, gave them milk, and so on. To get milk from a cow, she needed to give birth to a calf. The beginning that gives birth to the calf was considered the bull. Furthermore, they plowed the land with oxen, because there were still few horses at that time; they were used more in combat operations, raids on neighboring tribes, or in hunting. By the way, raids were not uncommon then. But oxen were used more for plowing and cultivating difficult plots of land that were initially overgrown with forest and grass. To cultivate this plot, men first had to cut down the trees, uproot the stumps, and then level it with the help of oxen, because doing it by hand is very difficult, especially on what you call virgin soil.
Therefore, bulls were considered simultaneously symbols of fertility, symbols of creation, and symbols of the beginning of something new. The beginning of new life, let's say. And so the sound "A" was denoted precisely by the bull's head, and later only the schematic writing remained. What you see in your modern alphabet. This letter was in ancient times a symbol of beginning, birth, fertility, the emergence of something.
Among some peoples, it was a symbol of the Absolute. The Absolute – you see that it has the letter "A". And it is no coincidence that among completely different peoples of the Earth, the letter "A" in the alphabets of many modern peoples of the Earth is not accidentally the first. It is where everything begins.
15:15 Energetics of runic symbols. The rune RA.
Svetlana: Are these symbols, these letters, charged with some kind of energy? Is some kind of energy invested in them if we write them in space or on paper?
Irina: It can only be charged by the energy of the one who writes it, who reads it, who carries it with them. It can be charged with the energy that you put into it. Any symbol can be charged with any energy of the person creating it. They can call upon their curators to help them charge it.
For example, the syllable "RA", which was already a combination of the letters "R" and "A", no longer denoted separation plus creation; it denoted a new concept. The syllable "RA" was denoted by a rune. By the way, runes were not just straight lines; they were depicted on tablets with various drawings. For example, the syllable "RA" was denoted by an ancient rune. What does "draw it" mean? Such a thing (shows a drawing).
Svetlana: Aha, like a hedgehog.
Irina: What do you feel?
Svetlana: Like a hedgehog.
Irina: It is the rising Sun from behind the horizon. By the way, it was customary to draw seven rays upwards, according to the number of chakras. That was "RA". It denoted the Sun, Light, and the divine principle. But most often it denoted the Sun.
17:23 Laws of the Slavs.
Svetlana: Veles, please tell us, what were the first laws of the Slavs, and was there a law on polygamy?
Irina: What were the laws of the Slavs. There were many laws related to housekeeping, livestock farming, that one must not attack neighboring tribes, but one can defend oneself against others. There was a law on unity. There was a law on worshipping the gods, a law on venerating the Volkhvs (wise men) as messengers from God. There was a law that the Volkhvs must teach children and adults various life wisdoms. There was a law: if a Volkhv comes to a village, they must provide him with the best house and the best food, gather children around him where he could pass on his experience.
These are like contactees, in your terms. Only they were contactees with different entities of different levels. They had the ability to see the subtle world, meaning they could say who is in this house among the Spirits, the patrons of this house, why they are there. They could contact deceased ancestors, ask them about something, could help find a lost item, animal, or person. But only if the gods helped them, showed them, revealed it to them, because it was not always revealed. If, according to the karma of the person who lost it, they needed to go through that experience.
19:20 Polygamy. Tarsir. Dazhbog.
Svetlana: Was there a law on polygamy?
Irina: During certain periods of your ancestors' lives, the law on polygamy existed, but at that time it was like that throughout the Earth, and it wasn't only about polygamy. A woman could also live with several men at once. She could give birth to children from different men, depending on her class. If she was of a higher class, she could invite several men so that children from different men would come from her flesh, to unite with her and give rise to many clans, what you call egregors of a clan, surnames, families.
For example, approximately ten and a half, ten thousand years ago, interstellar friends, aliens, transported by ships, resettled people from the Persian Gulf region to different lands, about one to one and a half thousand years after the war 12,000 years ago. They began to transport and help people move to populate the Earth. When they transported them to areas with a different climate, they made changes to the genotype to have a different skin color, eye shape, to adapt to those conditions.
When transporting the ancestors of the Slavs, one of them, his name was Tarsir (that's the name I hear), during his life he had 18 wives and 46 children, and he lived 167 years. When the Slavs became Slavs, they deified him as an ancestor and called him a god. Dazhbog. A god is a deified person who came from heaven. He was like a god, but he was a man who lived a very long time ago. Why did they say "Dazhbog", why did they not call him by his name, but the word "Dazhbog"? It means "God give". When he lived 167 years, people asked him: "Where do you get so much strength that you live so many years healthy?" He did not even lose his vision or hearing. When asked: "Where do you get so much strength?" – he said: "God gives to me, let him give to you too."
Because of this, he came to be called Dazhbog. He was first a simple peasant, then he became a Volkhv, he was a contactee. He passed on his wisdom to his family, to all his numerous children (and he had about two hundred grandchildren). He is one of the ancestors of the Slavic peoples, others descended from him. But not only from him. About three hundred people were transported. He was one of them.
He did not die of old age or illness. The wife of one of his grandsons was picking mushrooms in the forest. Due to her carelessness, several poisonous specimens got into her basket. She made mushroom soup (he shows me a hearth, a fire surrounded by iron, like a stove), she made a large copper pot of soup for the whole family. Six people who ate the most, including the man who was deified, disincarnated from that soup. They left incarnation, including a child from the same family, a six-year-old boy. That's what happened.
25:10 Makshi. Mokosh. Mother of God. Polyandry.
Svetlana: Yes, an interesting story. So, we did have polygamy. But not only polygamy, we also had polyandry (multiple husbands).
Irina: Yes. Around 9,000 years ago, that is, just a thousand years after the aliens brought and landed the first ancestors of the Slavs on the territory between the Oka and Volga rivers (somewhere near the confluence of the Oka into the Volga, about 40 km from that place), they created the first settlement, surrounded by wooden poles. He is showing me a circular settlement now.
A woman named Makshi lived there, who was later called Mokosh, also deified. Later she became a goddess. She had fifteen husbands and certainly more than thirty children. She also lived about 130 years; they lived long back then. During this time, she did not have all simultaneously, but there was a time when she lived with several men at the same time and also gave birth to children. That Spirit who later incarnated as the Mother of God lived in this woman.
Svetlana: So, the woman was named Mokosh?
Irina: Mokosh came later. Her name was Makshi. Later she was deified, and she became the Goddess Mokosh.
Svetlana: Goddess Mokosh, and later the Mother of God.
Irina: Her Spirit later incarnated in Israel.
27:22 Perun. Arkaim.
Svetlana: An interesting incarnation. Besides Dazhbog and Makshi, are there any other saints, godly people among the ancient Slavs, whose names have come down to us, to our time?
Irina: Perun – he was a representative of the planet Burhad. He lived on Earth about seven and a half, eight thousand years ago. But he lived at a base near the city of Arkaim. The city of Arkaim already existed. Not far from it was a base. He shows me a hill or a mountain now, under this mountain was a base. He was a representative of the planet Burhad, communicated with people in Arkaim. At that time, it was allowed to walk among them. He walked among people. He stood out among them for his height, white skin, and everyone knew that he was an alien from the sky.
He really liked to walk in a forest grove where birches and oaks grew, so the oak later became a symbol of Perun. Also, in this area, there were often droughts in summer, forest fires occurred, such was the climate. The winds blew in such a way that there was no rain for a long time; the forest could catch fire from any rotten stump where decomposition processes were taking place; dry grass could catch fire. There was no rain to water the fields. At that time, Beritnar (at least that's what I hear, I'm not accurately conveying the sounds of the Burhad language now, but that was approximately his name), when there was no rain for a long time, he would rise into the air on his disc, on his saucer, and using special electromagnetic waves, he would gather clouds, condensing moisture from the air. From this condensation, lightning would often start striking, and rain would pour down. Therefore, he was called the god of lightning.
30:11 Elemental Spirits – Plasmoids. Salamanders.
Svetlana: Interesting. And who makes thunderstorms and lightning for us now?
Irina: That was in ancient times, when it was allowed to intervene in your development in such a way. But now your cataclysms on Earth are permitted for you so that you yourselves learn to manage the nature of the planet you are on, therefore interfering so directly is forbidden.
At that time, you were protected like infants. And now you are, one might say, teenagers, finishing high school before the next stage of entering college. Before mass contact, as you say, you need to pass exams. Exams for consciousness, for understanding the laws of nature. And to pass this exam, you need to show all living entities that you understand the laws of nature. For example, if a flood occurs, it means you need to talk to the Water Spirits and find out what caused it. A flood is usually caused by water plasmoids raising the energy of the water element space in that place to wash away some negativity. At the density level where they are, people's negativity causes them pain.
Svetlana: Very interesting. If we have fires, do we talk to the salamanders?
Irina: Yes. Fires usually occur when it is necessary either to clean an area. Sometimes there is an old forest that no one looks after, old trees are not cleared. The fact is that the forest needs to be renewed from time to time. Your ancestors knew this well, so when felling began, old specimens were cut down first to give beginning, food, nutrition, and Sun to the young ones. And they removed fallen trees.
If the forest is not cared for, not made light and clean, but only littered, then the salamanders themselves will take on this task. Because by agreement with the Forest Spirits, whom this cluttered space hinders from developing and developing the Souls of plant and animal organisms they create, the salamanders create this fire. You should be studying this in school.
Svetlana: Got it. But they don't teach us this in school; we are learning about this now in meetings like this.
33:25 Method of orientation in space from MidgasKaus.
Irina: How? Don't you have a subject for children at school called "Interaction with Nature Spirits"?
Svetlana: Unfortunately, all this is in the future for us, but it definitely will be.
Irina: (He was surprised.) How do you live in nature then? If you go into the forest and lose your bearings, you can't even ask the Spirits to lead you out.
Svetlana: Yes, so we suggest taking a compass with you. A compass, we have such a simple landmark. But we will now recommend to everyone who goes into the forest for mushrooms and berries to be sure to address the Spirits.
Irina: (Mid smiles and says) No, they don't have that. You need to have sensitivity. I will recommend a very simple method for you. If you didn't take a compass, then for orientation, it's called "communicate with the Spirit of the Sun."
Remember the main rule, first. When approaching the forest, be sure to stop for two minutes before entering it. Still on the road, send the Light of your Love to the forest, to the entire surrounding space, and to the Spirits that are there. You have come to visit. Send the Light of your Love to the hosts, greet them. Say: "I have come to your forest to rest, to gather the gifts of your forest. I ask the Spirits of this space to send me a blessing, I send you the Light of my Love." That's the first thing. As soon as you say this, you will experience peace.
And secondly, be sure to look at the Sun. When you stand at the edge of the forest, look at the Sun, be sure to mentally note, remember where it is relative to you. If it is behind you, remember that. If it is in front, to the left, or to the right, also remember that. Now you will go into the forest, and even if you simply forget that you turned around, the moment of where the road is, where you entered from, will slip your memory, you will look at the sky through the treetops, and you will see where the Sun is. And then you will remember where it was when you entered. To exit from anywhere in the forest, you need to go in the opposite direction. For example, if when you entered the Sun was behind you, you need to go forward. If when you entered the Sun was on your left, you need to go so that the Sun is on your right. And you will automatically reach the entrance.
If you don't do this, you will think the exit is behind you, but you turned around, and it is already to your left, and you don't remember how you turned. Even if the exit is two hundred meters away, you won't see it through the trees. You will walk through the forest parallel to the road for five, ten kilometers, while the exit is two hundred meters away, because you don't remember. But by the Sun, it will lead you out.
Svetlana: Ok. Interesting. If we also remember that the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
Irina: Not even remembering east or west, but simply where it was relative to you when you entered.
Svetlana: Thank you.
Irina: And then do not go towards it, because you will go further away from the road, but in the opposite direction.
Svetlana: Yes. That's correct.
38:06 Places of Power in Central Russia.
Svetlana: The next question is this. We just talked about Arkaim as a place of power. Are there any other places of power that were among the ancient Slavs, but have survived to our time, and we can look at them, come and visit this place?
Irina: Almost the entire Voronezh region is very ancient places. Mid and Veles are showing me now. The entire territory of Central Russia is connected with such places. This needs to be looked at on a map, because, for example, Voronezh, where we are standing, is also a very ancient city where even Krishna visited. A burial ground was found near Voronezh, in the village of Kostenki. It is about 40,000 years old, that is, before the war, when people themselves settled throughout the Earth. Not the settlement when the aliens were involved, but during that settlement, when the aliens transported them after the war, there were already remnants of ancient cities here where new people settled.
39:29 Night and Day of Svarog. Cyclicality of Time.
Svetlana: Svarog and the Night of Svarog. Are these concepts in effect at the present time?
Irina: And what is the Night of Svarog? We need to at least explain it for our listeners.
Svetlana: We commonly understand the Night of Svarog as those negative manifestations that the energy of Svarog carries. There is the Day of Svarog, where everything works out for us, everything is good and successful. And there is the Night of Svarog, when we work off a lot of negativity, receive negativity, and where various processes of stagnation occur. This comes from the ancient Slavs.
Irina: And what happens during the Day of Svarog?
Svetlana: The Day of Svarog is abundance, development, receiving good energies, that is, it goes for good. As our ancient Slavs said, it is the prosperity of the people. If the Night of Svarog comes at a certain time, then there are losses, damages, negative manifestations.
Irina: I understand what you are talking about. There are no direct cycles like Night, Day, Abundance, Losses. These are attempts by more modern people to shift their responsibility onto someone else. This exists in all religions. This exists in both ancient and modern Slavic movements, this exists in Christianity, this exists in Buddhism, and everywhere. It's the psychology of modern humans. I do everything right, I have no blocks, but Svarog sent such energy, or the neighbor-witch cast a spell. This is called shifting responsibility.
Any time cycle is given for development. If there are more or fewer light energies in it, it is not to cause losses, but so that people themselves can illuminate this space with their energies. I already told you that if once upon a time more help was given to you in development than now (rains were summoned, diseases were treated with the very advanced medicine of your star brothers), it was because you were in the infancy stage of existence. You also take care of your infants. You also feed them, you also treat them, but when they become more adult, you teach them to take responsibility. If you run after a seventeen-year-old son with a temperature and persuade him to take a pill, like you did when he was three, a true, real man, a provider, a warrior, will not grow out of him. It's the same with civilizations.
And as for Svarog.
Svetlana: Yes, yes, yes. God Svarog. Our ancient Russians believed that God Svarog possesses very strong power.
43:08 Runic analysis of the words "Svarog", "God".
Irina: Svarog – that was the name. Now I will decipher it according to the symbols of the proto-language; his name was denoted by three runes. There was a rune that denoted the combination of the letters "S" and "V" (Russian СВ), a little later "A" was added to them, and it began to be read as "SVA". The rune "SV" (СВ), different vowels "E", "A", "O" could be added to it to make it easier to read and speak. Not "SVRG" (СВРГ), but "SVAROG" (СВАРОГ). "SVA" (СВА) – that was the first rune.
He shows me that it was denoted as a trident, but like this, this, and this (Irina draws in the air). The central triangle was higher and two small ones on the sides. What are these mountains? They are not mountains; this is how a tongue of flame was denoted, like in a fire, as we see it burning. That's how fire was depicted very schematically. And in general, the rune "SVA" (СВА) had the meaning of "light, radiance, illumination, brightness", i.e., something luminous.
The rune "RO" (РО). Now I'll show you (shows drawing). This oval and two lines up and down, "RO" (РО) denoted the concept of "form of something, some kind of body, object, something that has taken form." Form of something, object of something. What is drawn here was, in ancient times, one might say, the form of a body; it could also denote a body. Form of a body, of an object – that was the approximate meaning of the rune "RO" (РО).
As I already said, individual letters were also runes. "G" (Russian Г) is a modern letter, previously it was denoted slightly differently (Irina draws and shows on the screen). Later they removed that circle and these two lines, and just the letter "G" (Г) remained, a schematic image. What was there before denoted a person bending over to something and stretching their arms down. The letter "G" (Г) was a symbol of the condescension of something, Divine mercy, Divine Mind, the incarnation of something Higher, i.e., mercy, the incarnation of something Higher on Earth. A person bent over and reached out his hands for help; you could say "mercy, help, mind, compassion".
For example, the word "GOD" (БОГ). The syllable "BO" (БО), he shows me now, was denoted by a large arrow pointing up and four small sticks around it, and it is larger than them and rushes upwards. This arrow stands in the middle of a quadrilateral and stretches upward, and the quadrilateral is formed by such sticks. "BO" (БО) denoted "upwards, upward, above all", i.e., the Highest. "G" (Г) denoted "help, mercy, protection", as if someone Higher bent down. Therefore the word "BOG" (БОГ) denoted "Highest help or Highest mercy".
49:11 Semargl. Stribog. Names of Jesus Christ among different nations.
Svetlana: Can we say that God Svarog is the Slavic god of fire?
Irina: The God of Fire was Semargl, the leader of all salamanders. Stribog was the leader of all sylphs. As for Svarog, I will translate now. "SVA" (СВА) – is light, "RO" (РО) – is body, form, "G" (Г) – is help. So, this was translated as "Light form, light body, someone in a light body who came to help", in your words, the Savior. This entity was not named by this word for nothing; you know it well under a different name.
Svetlana: Under what?
Irina: This is the Savior of all nations, who is the Firstborn Son of God. Do you know who it is?
Svetlana: It is Jesus Christ.
Irina: Yes. Jesus. Yeshua – that is his Jewish name, Yeshua Mashiach. Christ – is the Greek name. This entity also had its own name among the Slavs, and it is Svarog. Even in the pre-Christian period, he made contacts on a spiritual level with priests and ordinary people; he had Christ-consciousness; he also had contacts through phantoms; he also passed on wisdom to me, and I also communicated with him many times, and he is called Svarog among the Slavs.
Svetlana: Wonderful! Now we know which Spirit was in Jesus Christ, who was later Svarog.
Irina: You probably see how accurately they denoted his characteristics with their runes.
Svetlana: Yes, yes.
51:12 Runic analysis of the name Svetlana.
Irina: We can examine what they, for example, put into a very ancient name. Each name carried a characteristic of the entity, whether it was the name of a god or a person. For example, Svetlana also denoted certain things. It consisted of two parts "SVET" (СВЕТ) and "LANA" (ЛАНА). In general, the word "SVET" (СВЕТ), we already talked about the syllable "SVA" (СВА) or "SVE" (СВЕ), it means Light. And the letter "T" (Т), it was denoted like this. This rune "T" (Т), like the current letter "T". Initially, its symbol was a hammer. That is, what was used to nail something, attach, drive nails, fasten something material.
Later, the rune-letter "T" (Т) came to denote something solid, material, matter itself, the physical body; sometimes it also denoted that. Therefore, the word "SVET" (СВЕТ) denoted "Light in matter". "SVE" (СВЕ) is any light, both spiritual and physical, while "SVET" (СВЕТ) is more specific: light in matter, light manifested through matter.
"LANA" (ЛАНА). The syllable "LA" (ЛА) was a multifaceted concept. It was denoted by three circles within each other, and four lines emanated from them, like the four cardinal directions. If the syllable "KA" (КА) denoted the Soul, which was just three circles, no lines emanated from them, it was simply Soul, Spirit, then the syllable "LA" (ЛА) is the same Soul but with four lines. This denoted its light manifestation in the world. The syllable "LA" (ЛА) denoted simultaneously "patronage, protection, healing, and the Spiritual World." That which hides, covers, protects, heals, and that which creates peace. Approximately these meanings.
The syllable "NA" (НА) was denoted by a small circle lying on a surface. It denoted some surface, what it is on, it denoted the obvious, that which is manifested, visible to everyone. Therefore "LANA" (ЛАНА) meant something like "healing, peace, harmony, protection". There is no modern word to fully capture this concept, but it included all these four concepts, which are visible to everyone, on the surface.
Therefore, we now return to the name Svetlana. If you look at it collectively, it would be "Material Light, carrying peace, harmony, and visible to all." Personally, I and some other plasmoids have passed on the meanings of all the syllables to Irina; she has them. If interested, she can send them.
Svetlana: Very interesting.
Irina: I have it written down somewhere; I need to search. When I went out into the Astral, plasmoids came to me and said: "This syllable means this." I told Maxim. He says it needs to be published. And I say: "Who would be interested in that."
56:59 Yarilo.
Svetlana: Very interesting! Very, very! After all, everyone who is asking now, we are saying the same thing. I would like to know then about "Yarilo", "YAR" (ЯР) and "LO" (ЛО). What syllables are there?
Irina: Yarilo – he was a plasmoid, in your terms. One of Kryon's group, but he also often flew to the Sun, meaning he was an intermediary between Earth and the Sun. He made contact with priests who made sacrifices to the Sun. He transferred their energy to the solar plasmoids and transmitted it back. He was like an intermediary.
Svetlana: Yes, because the ancient Slavs also worshipped him.
Irina: Approximately the 21st-22nd density level, even 22nd.
Svetlana: Yes, interesting.
56:59 Concepts of "Prav", "Slav", "Nav", "Yav".
Svetlana: And how should we understand such Slavic concepts as "Prav" (ПРАВЬ), "Yav" (ЯВЬ), "Nav" (НАВЬ)?
Irina: And "Slav" (СЛАВЬ). Understand them that way, "Prav". Do we need to analyze them according to the proto-language?
Svetlana: They are all connected with the world of Light, the world of Darkness, the afterlife. How did they interpret all this? How was it interpreted at that time by the Slavs?
Irina: Let's first take the letter "V" (В) (the hard sign and soft sign are different; here "V" is the letter "V" as in "V" sound, though the text refers to the letter "В" which is like English "V" but also the shape of the soft sign "Ь" is used for palatalization; the explanation refers to the shape of the letter 'V' 'В' which looks like a symbol). The soft sign here only strengthens the concept. "V" (В), he shows me like a little flower; that's how the rune was denoted, but actually, that's how the entrance to the female womb was denoted, excuse the details. For the ancient Slavs, this was quite natural. A rhombus like this, with something inside.
Svetlana: Agreed, so be it. Asked and received.
Irina: Actually, the letter "V" (В) denoted the simple concept of internal, "inside something". Inside, that which has not yet been born. Since things are born precisely from the female womb, the depiction of this opening denoted "that which is inside." Everyone understood that inside something, inside. "Inner world", if it was said about spiritual things; if about material things, it meant "inside something".
Now we look at "PRAV" (ПРАВЬ). The rune "PR" (ПР) or "PRA" (ПРА), "PRE" (ПРЕ), "PRI" (ПРИ), "PRO" (ПРО), and so on. This was also a very ancient concept. How to translate it into modern language? Probably it's easier with a rune. It was denoted by a sign, roughly the sign you use for lightning. It denoted "quick sharp change, intervention, transition to a new level". This is a type of energy that, if it appears, mixes everything up. It could even introduce some chaos; on the contrary, it could bring order, but it always did it by the will of God, i.e., these are Divine energies that change certain events. It can be conveyed, in your words, as "call of fate" or "will of fate", some fateful events. Again, one word cannot convey it. Ancient people had a very rich figurative language, and it's very difficult to convey it with modern words. In any case, "PRA" (ПРА) – are Divine energies of change. You could say, a fresh wind of change.
Svetlana: Understood. Energies of change, that which can be changed, that which we want to change, and that which we change.
Irina: And it came not only from us but from the Spiritual World, approximately like the Holy Spirit. You have an understanding of the Holy Spirit, who cleanses, helps, guides. It brings changes, like raising vibrations. In the most general sense, changes to raise vibrations of something. And "V" (В) denoted "inside". Therefore, the word "PRAV" (ПРАВЬ) refers to the inner world. Because it is precisely in the inner world of the Soul that the energy of holiness and raising vibrations exists, changes that a person then brings to the surrounding external world. Therefore, "PRAV" (ПРАВЬ) denoted the feeling of holiness, change, raising vibrations inside a person.
"SLAV" (СЛАВЬ). Again, "SL" (СЛ) was a universal understanding of the designation of strength, which was given precisely so that "PRA" (ПРА), so that this understanding of Divine power of change could manifest in the world. It is like a person's own willpower. "SL" (СЛ) denoted the strength given for this change. Therefore, "SLAV" (СЛАВЬ) denoted Strength Within. This is the strength a person receives from the feeling of raising vibration for changes in the material world.
"YAV" (ЯВЬ). I already spoke about the letter "A". The letter "YA" (Я) had a similar symbol, because "YA" (Я) is a later pronunciation of the letter "A" (А). First, there was "A", then "YA". They were simply separated in the Russian alphabet, one placed at the beginning, the other at the end. But earlier it was a single symbol. It denoted, like "A", beginning, birth, creation, fertility. And "YAV" (ЯВЬ) in this case denoted creation, the birth of new fruits within; it is precisely the ripening of those fruits that will later manifest, become apparent.
"NAV" (НАВЬ) is a more general concept. As I already said, the syllable "NA" (НА) is that which is on the surface. If we see the connection of surface and inside, i.e., "NAV" (НАВЬ), then these syllables denoted that which is inside, i.e., the inner world, which is not in the material. You could say that this is how the world of Spirit, the astral, the plasmoid world was denoted. Contact with it is inside. Plasmoids, of course, are external beings, but they can only be felt through your heart. Again, this is a very figurative, priestly language, which was used to denote these concepts.
01:04:59 Analysis of the word Bogoroditsa (Mother of God).
Svetlana: Can I ask one last question? Please tell me, does the word "Bogoroditsa" (Богородица - Mother of God), used in Christianity, come from an ancient word? Does it come from and is it somehow compatible with "ROD" (РОД)?
Irina: Let's look at the word "ROD" (РОД). There is also God Rod, who was a manifestation of God the Father, God the Heavenly Father. That's what the Slavs called him. That is, the one who created all the gods and people. The word "ROD" (РОД), the letter "D" (Д), which is very similar to the letter "A" now, in ancient times was depicted in the form of a little house, like a roof of a house. "D" (Д) denoted – house, family, hearth, a certain clan, and so on. Therefore, "ROD" (РОД) – is the form "RO" (РО) (form, image, appearance of something) and "D" (Д) (family, hearth), this denoted – the external form of family, clan, of a certain house. Why did they use this word specifically for God the Father? By this, they emphasized that all families are created by God, i.e., for them, the very concept of family was sacred.
Bogoroditsa (Mother of God) – is the one who gave birth to God, because Jesus Christ is, in a spiritual sense, one with the Father; he does not separate himself from him, as we already said. Therefore, the one who incarnated this great Spirit is, in terms of vibrations, she gave birth to God. She cared for him, raised him; she herself considered him God for herself. And still considers him so.
And in the second sense, the Mother of God is any woman who treats her child as a Divine entity, and her husband as a Divine entity, and herself, and helps the whole family raise their vibrations. She gives birth to God in every person in her family.
Svetlana: Probably we need to end on this note.
Irina: Alright. I found this conference very interesting. Until next time, friends!
Svetlana: Until next time! Thank you very much, Irina! Thank you, MidgasKaus, thank you, Veles, and thank you, LiShioni! We thank you for everything, for the wonderful answers.
Irina: Goodbye!
October 19, 2021
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Svetlana Lana – head of the Moscow branch of the Cassiopia project;
MidgasKaus – representative of the planet Esler, biologist, psychologist, microbiologist, specialist in extraterrestrial life forms;
LiShioni – representative of the planet Shimor, sociologist, specialist in the astral world and its interactions with the material world;
Veles – representative of the fine-material world of the 18th density level, Slavic deity.
https://blog.cassiopeia.center/dolgozhdannaya-vstrecha-s-bogorodicej
Cassiopia #187 The long-awaited meeting with the Mother of God – the physical mother of Jesus!
00:20 Introduction of conference participants.
Irina: My name is Irina Podzorova. I have been a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations since 1999. Today we have a very unusual contact. The first contact in my entire career as a contactee where I am not communicating with the Spiritual entity itself, but with its phantom. Questions are being asked by our friends: Vladimir from Chicago and Maria from Germany. Hello, dear friends!
Maria: Good afternoon!
Vladimir: Hello, friends! Today we have, to put it mildly, a completely unusual conference. In fact, we have been waiting for it for a year. So it's no accident that Maria and I are, as they say, "dressed up". You probably rarely see me in a shirt and tie, but today there is every reason for it. And since we are indeed having a completely unusual conversation today, I want to start it in a very unusual way, like this: "It is truly right to bless Thee, O Mother of God, ever-blessed and most pure, and the Mother of our God, more honorable than the Cherubim and more glorious beyond compare than the Seraphim, who without corruption gavest birth to God the Word, the present Mother of God, we magnify Thee." Friends, today we truly have a Spiritual personality as our guest; we will clarify some details, but it is exactly the one we know as the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God.
02:25 What does the Mother of God do in the Spiritual World?
Irina: The Virgin Mary, who is indeed known on Earth as the mother of Jesus Christ, the Mother of God, is here in one of her numerous phantom bodies to answer the questions of our dear subscribers and dispel all doubts regarding her life and the miraculous appearances that have occurred and still occur on Earth. As for the differences between a phantom and an astral body, they are not that significant in this case. In my astral body, I am in the Spiritual World and from there I observe the development of egregors not only on planet Earth. But for contact with various people you call "contactees", I separate a particle of Light from my Spiritual entity, endow it with thought-forms and the ability to contact me via an energetic and spiritual thread of connection. And thus, I can answer through the phantom without leaving my Spiritual level and without coming into the material world in an astral body. I do this with all the people you call "contactees", not only on planet Earth.
Vladimir: A huge thank you! We thank you for finding the opportunity to come and talk with us. We understand that this is "worth its weight in gold," so to speak. This is absolutely priceless communication. We thank you on our own behalf and on behalf of all subscribers of the Cassiopia project. This is very valuable and very important to us.
Irina: Also with her is Mirakh Kaunts from the planet Burhad.
Vladimir: Archangel Gabriel, hello!
Irina: Yes, Archangel Gabriel, came with her. MidgasKaus and LiShioni are with us. She says that the contactee's spiritual abilities allow contacting phantoms the same way as with astral bodies. The next such contact can occur no earlier than in 30-40 days.
Vladimir: Understood. How much time do we have today?
Maxim: As much as needed.
Vladimir: Got it, good. Then I'll start asking questions.
Irina: She says she thanks you. I had told her earlier, and told Mirakh Kaunts and MidgasKaus, that it was your idea to invite her. She thanks you for proposing this idea and arranging this meeting; she thanks you for the prayer. She says: "Through the phantom's form and the contactee's perception, I saw your energy and that you recited the prayer quite sincerely and felt my response." When energy is invested in that prayer that allows not me, as a Spiritual entity, but the person praying themselves to feel my energies – that's a channel of communication. I also greet you, Maria. You have the same name. A name is one energy field, a part of which is carried by all bearers of that name if they correspond to the mission I fulfilled: raising my child and preparing him for the mission of Light."
Vladimir: Maria, we thank you for your answer! And please, second Maria, your question.
07:00 Where is the Mother of God now, at what level, what surrounds her, and what does she do?
Maria: Our dear Maria! Tell us, please, where are you now? At what Spiritual level? What is around you? What do you do? With whom do you regularly communicate, and what is your mission now?
Irina: Can you ask questions one at a time? She is in the Astral, especially in phantom form.
Maria: Okay. Where exactly are you now, at what Spiritual level?
Irina: For you, it would be – at the 24th.
Maria: What is around you now? What do you see around you? What surrounds you?
Irina: Light and Angels who are next to me.
Vladimir: And if not for us, from your point of view, what level is it?
Irina: We do not consider them as incarnated entities. For us, these are not different levels. We just live and send our Light, without thinking about such things.
Vladimir: Thank you!
Maria: Tell us, what is your mission now? What are you doing now? Who surrounds you? With whom do you communicate?
Irina: I communicate with Angels who come to me and whom I can visit. You call it – being at a lower level, and I call it "a transition to a different state of Light." I can also transition into that state and meet with Angels, with other non-incarnated Spirits who cannot come to me themselves in my structure of Light.
Vladimir: Thank you! Tell me, please, what do you look like to the Spirits around you now? Is the appearance you take similar to the images you have, for example, on icons?
Irina: She says: my first occupation is teaching other Angels so they can develop egregors, teach others, for example, consultants, Angels who help Spirits incarnate here. As well as many other ministries, including observing the egregor created by my son, which has now split on Earth into so many currents that energetically, very little of what is there actually belongs to him. But that spark still exists, and I support it.
10:00 What does the Mother of God look like to the surrounding Spirits?
Vladimir: Understood, so I'll repeat once more: what do you look like to the surrounding Spirits? What form do you take, and is it in any way similar to the images on our icons?
Irina: She shows me an Angel, but a very tall one: conventionally, the size of a 20-story building compared to a person standing on the ground. An Angel-girl. She can create wings. Now she is in the form of a young girl, but she can endow her phantom with the image you see in depictions.
Vladimir: Understood, thank you!
Irina: I wanted to say right away that only for Earth I have separated from my essence and endowed with my energy particles of emotions, feelings, and mind more than 150,000 phantoms: for healing, for appearing to my contactees and other people who need my help.
Maria: Thank you!
11:18 Incarnations of the Mother of God.
Maria: Maria, what are your other most significant incarnations on Earth and elsewhere? Do you already have plans for a new incarnation?
Irina: I have no plans for a new incarnation yet, as I am doing very important work in the Spiritual world and cannot currently separate a part of myself to place into a body. I must be fully present as a Soul, what you call the "Higher Self."
What significant incarnations did I have? I incarnated on Tumesout and Burhad. On Burhad, I incarnated at the time when specialists from that planet were creating life on Earth. I was one of those specialists, a man. That was 3 million years ago. On Tumesout, I incarnated when my son – Yahweh – lived there, but in the body of his wife.
Vladimir: Understood. So, when Jesus was incarnated as Yahweh, you were his wife on Tumesout?
Irina: Yes. I was even on Earth, but not for long. Then I flew to Tumesout.
Vladimir: Understood. Tell me, please, during the time we were being created at the base – on Earth, which we know as Paradise, we already understood that you were incarnated into the body of one of the scientists who created us. Was Jesus there too, next to you, in the body of another scientist?
Irina: He was nearby, but not in a body. He was present in non-incarnation. He shows me that they communicated.
Vladimir: Understood. Thank you!
13:35 The story of the Mother of God's transition to the Spiritual World from her earthly incarnation.
Vladimir: Tell me, please, are there any special features of your transition to the Spiritual World from the earthly incarnation we know as Mary? And, in general, is Mary the name by which we can address you? Or should we address you differently?
Irina: I was called Mary, but the most common address among my people when I was incarnated was Mariam. But now many thousands of people on Earth address me specifically as Maria. Every day, every hour, I hear everyone who sincerely calls upon me and offers me a prayer. Yes, the Apostle Luke correctly wrote in the book of the Gospel that from now on all nations will honor you – from the time I decided to go into contact with Mirakh Kaunt and incarnate Christ. And since they honor me with the name Maria, I ask that you address me that way.
Vladimir: Good. Were there any special features when exiting the incarnation from Mary's body?
Irina: Yes. By the time I exited my last earthly incarnation, which is very important to me – I consider it the most important – I was 81 years old. I was near the disciples of Christ. My second husband, who had come after Joseph, arrived from a journey with the Apostle Paul. He had traveled with the Apostle Paul for several years. But shortly before my departure to the Spiritual World, he arrived, as I had summoned him and all my children who were alive at that time in spiritual form. In the last 24 hours before leaving for the Spiritual World, I told them about my spiritual path, about the planet Burhad, about the fact that Jesus Christ's father is from another planet. I called it "from another star," as there wasn't the same understanding as now. By this time, my son had long been on the planet Burhad, but we communicated mentally: he very often came to me in the Astral. And when I was leaving the body, he himself met me (she shows an image of how it happened, how they met). Not a guide Angel, as is usual, but he himself led me into the Spiritual World to the level where I am now. Mirakh Kaunt and other Burhadians took my physical body: my son decided this so that I could live on Burhad in an earthly body for some more time. When the body was transported to Burhad, they noticed that it could be restored, but not like Jesus Christ, who was younger when he died, but so that I could temporarily live on Burhad and then go out into the Spiritual World. Time was needed for coordination with my spiritual mentors in the Spiritual World so that I could temporarily return and restore the body. All this was agreed upon, and I did so. Several Earth weeks passed, and my body was restored on Burhad. There I spent, according to Earth chronology, another 35 years. I could have stayed longer in this restored body, because they have such capabilities. But I understood, and my son and I agreed, that my presence in the Spiritual World is more important, more essential for me – to fully unite with my Soul, with my Higher Self, and do what I am currently doing. If I were partially in a physical body at such a level, it would be impossible: I would be distracted by physical life.
20:11 Why did Jesus choose the Virgin Mary for his incarnation?
Vladimir: How many children were around you at the time of transition?
Irina: Five.
Vladimir: Tell me, please, if possible, what was the name of the second spouse?
Irina: Luke.
Vladimir: Understood.
Maria: Tell me, please, does your son Yeshua (Jesus) hear our conversation now?
Irina: I told him that I wished to meet. Not a phantom, but the Spiritual entity can contact him at any moment: they are on telepathic contact.
Maria: Thank you! Tell me, why did he choose you specifically to implement his incarnation plan?
Irina: Because, firstly, we agreed on this in the Spiritual World, and secondly, I was his wife on Tumesout. My vibrations were the most suitable for incarnation on Earth. It was not entirely clear through which parents, into which body I would incarnate, and when it would happen. But together with my spiritual mentors and Jesus Christ, we selected the bodies of those parents for me who had no children before but were suitable in terms of vibrations. They were approached in the Astral, their reproductive function was restored, and I was born into that body.
Vladimir: Understood. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts!
21:59 The story of the birth of Jesus Christ.
Vladimir: Mary, tell me, please, when on the physical plane did you first learn, as I understand, from the Archangel Gabriel (Mirakh Kaunt) about this plan, what was your reaction?
Irina: Surprise. Because I was 14 years old then, and I did not yet fully realize my spiritual nature, i.e., what we had agreed upon. Almost my entire childhood from the age of three and a half, I spent in the temple, surrounded by priests, Levites, and the High Priest who loved me very much, taught me to read, and showed me books that were usually hidden from others. He trusted me, although at that time, revealing such teachings to women was the height of strange behavior, an absurdity. He was a contactee himself, and his Angels, his curators, revealed to him that I could do this. Therefore, I was also in contact from childhood. I mainly communicated with the Spiritual World. But still, I did not realize my nature so clearly as not to be surprised by the appearance of a representative from the planet Burhad.
When he appeared, I remember that day as if it were now. It was a physical contact. It happened at sunset in one of the rooms of the temple on the outskirts of the city, around which there was a garden. A Burhadia ship landed on the clearing of the garden, and he came towards me. First, I saw him through the window and was surprised that a very tall man with white skin in a shiny suit was walking. Then he knocked with the code that only the priests and I knew. They had a specific code, and whoever comes and knocks like that is not a stranger. I was even more surprised: how does this stranger know this code? Nevertheless, I opened the door for him. He entered, and a conversation took place, which was conveyed by Luke; you can read it in his "Gospel". He said to me: "Rejoice, the Lord is with you," – rather, he said: "Always with you." I answered him: "Yes, that is so. I have never doubted it." He said that I had been chosen to give birth to Christ. Naturally, I knew about Christ from the Holy Scriptures – Mashiach, and Christ is his Greek name. "You need to give birth to the Mashiach according to all laws; God has chosen you." I told him that I was 14 years old and asked: "How can I give birth to anyone if I have no husband?" Although according to Jewish laws, according to the Talmud, I was supposed to get married soon and live on his support, as I couldn't be kept in the temple indefinitely. Girls, unlike male priests, had to get married. At that time, I knew Joseph, but I was not betrothed to him; he had not officially filed a request that he wanted to marry me, nor had he submitted a request to the priests to take me to him, so I said exactly that to Mirakh Kaunt. Then he said that it would happen without a man, that the Holy Spirit would descend upon me, and a child would appear in my womb. I understood that the Holy Spirit is the power of the Divine mind that gives life to everything. And so I immediately understood what he was talking about. I gave my consent, and the actual physical contact for conception occurred a little later – in a couple of weeks. He said that I needed to mentally prepare, talk with Christ himself in the Astral. The final preparations for this procedure were to be for my body, I mean physiological features. About two weeks later, at an appointed place, not far from a mountain near Jerusalem, I went to the contact myself. There, a ship picked me up, and I saw not only Mirakh Kaunt but also other Burhadians for the first time. They treated me very respectfully. I was told that the father by lineage (I later understood they were talking about genetics), the true father of my son's physical body, would be an alien from the stars – they immediately explained – from the planet Burhad. I asked: "Why is this necessary? Why am I from our world, and the father from another?" I was answered that no suitable father by qualities was found for the incarnation of his Spirit, so this decision was made. I said: "Indeed, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word." That is, I perceived Mirakh Kaunt as a messenger, as an Angel of God, who brought me the sayings of His will.
Then they showed me a device, thanks to which I became pregnant without contact with a man, i.e., I had no physical contact with the representative of Burhad. They are showing me now (the Mother of God and Mirakh Kaunt) a device resembling a sphere, and from it – a spiral, first purple, and at the end it becomes white. They shine this on the lower part of her abdomen. In this sphere are, in an energetic form, the DNA vibrations of that Burhadian, which were transmitted via an energy beam into the DNA of my egg. Thanks to this, it received the properties of the Burhadian's DNA, and the conception of a boy became possible. And the Spirit of Jesus Christ was nearby at that moment, in the astral world. When he introduced his life force, the first cell of his body, I felt it. He was constantly in contact with me and told me what he was doing.
It was good that the priests had prepared me for contacts with astral beings. They told me how to stop my mental streams, how to enter into contact, etc. Then I was returned to Earth, and almost immediately after that, Joseph filed a request to take me as his wife. I told him about the contact and what had happened almost immediately. He reacted favorably to this. And later, when it turned out that I was pregnant, he reacted with some suspicion, but not because he didn't believe me when I told him how it all happened. Simply, he said that the people around us would not believe this contact and would consider me an adulteress. Even if he hadn't yet taken me into his house but had already announced his desire to do so – it would be treason. Therefore, I needed to be sent to another city where no one knew me. He said: "Otherwise, I would be putting you in danger of execution" – there was such a law in Israel at that time. But Mirakh Kaunt came to Joseph and explained that he should accept me and my child as his own, so that there would be no consequences for me, and told him where he was from, confirming my words. When Joseph woke up, he came to me and said that he had believed it anyway, but now he had finally decided to do it.
When the pregnancy was advanced, the ruler of that country announced a census of the population, so everyone had to go to the city from which their family originated – it was easier for them to count. By that time, Joseph and I had come together, but since I was pregnant, I did not have intimacy with him. He was 22 years older than me. Then we came to the city from which my ancestors, my family, originated – Bethlehem. And there I felt that my labor was approaching. We had no acquaintances in the city where we could stay, and we couldn't find lodging at an inn, not because Joseph didn't have the money, but because we arrived very late when there were no rooms left. Many people simply stayed on the street, outdoors. But he paid the money, and the owners of one of the animal shelters agreed to let us in. And since it was not customary for a woman to give birth on the street, Joseph paid double our money for the shelter. That money was enough for less than a day, but he went for it so that I could be indoors.
Later I gave birth to Christ. Then came the appearance of Angels on the Spiritual plane, and also spaceships belonging to the Burhad race and the Pleiadean colonies. Several ships appeared over Jerusalem as a sign that Jesus Christ was born; the inhabitants of Jerusalem, who happened to be in the field, saw this. They perceived it as the appearance of Angels in the sky. Some came to me because these aliens said in Hebrew that Christ was born and even indicated where exactly. People came to me to see me and get acquainted.
Then there was the story when we were already at Joseph's house. Magi came from the territory of northwestern Iran. Now Iran is there, but then it was the north of Persia. Three magi came from there and said that they had learned about the birth of Christ from their Chronicles; they brought money and gifts. And after that, they said that the local king, Herod, had questioned them about us, about my son Christ. Joseph and I didn't pay much attention to it at first, but that same night, Mirakh Kaunt came to Joseph again in an astral body and told him to urgently take me away from that city because Herod's plans turned out to be very dark.
Later we moved. We had several donkeys that carried us and our belongings. We joined a caravan because traveling alone was dangerous due to robbers, especially with a nursing baby. With the caravan, we went to Egypt. Then we learned from other people who came to Egypt that a few days after we left, soldiers arrived on horses and killed many young children approximately the age of my son. This amazed, saddened, and surprised us. It was also surprising that the other people of that city did not even rise up in rebellion after the innocent killing of children instead of the one whom Herod suspected would overthrow him. Later, when word came that Herod had died, we returned from Egypt. But we did not hear about it immediately, as it took time for news to spread in that period of history. So when we returned to our city, Nazareth, another king was already ruling there. And from that time on, we lived peacefully, without any persecution. Christ's entire childhood was peaceful.
Maria: Thank you!
43:47 To whom did the Mother of God appear? Incarnations of the Archangel Michael.
Maria: Maria, tell me, please: throughout all times, many have claimed that you appeared to them in reality in the image of the Mother of God, for example, in the cell of Seraphim of Sarov, you were a nun. What kind of phenomena are these?
Irina: Yes, I appeared to many – priests, monks. To Seraphim of Sarov, when he was incarnated, I came several times, even when he was a child. I came to him in childhood when he was sick and sent him my energy for healing. I came several times in phantom form. We were well acquainted both in the Spiritual World and during my life on Earth, because he was in the body of John the Baptist. And with his mother, by body, we were relatives, and besides, she and I were good friends, close friends, and communicated very closely. Therefore, John the Baptist was born around the same time as my son. Practically, they were the same age and often played together. So the son of my friend and sister in Spirit, Elizabeth, was like my son, and Jesus was like a son to his mother, Elizabeth. And I named one of my daughters Elizabeth. You now know him as Archangel Michael.
Vladimir: Thank you!
46:14 Apparitions of the Mother of God in 1917 in Fatima.
Vladimir: Maria, tell me, please, a little more detail, what happened in Fatima in 1917? That is the Portuguese city where the famous apparition of the Mother of God to three shepherd children occurred. One of them was named Lúcia dos Santos.
Irina: I know this story. It was not my phantom that appeared to these children, but representatives of the plasmoid worlds, different ones. They saw them as luminous beings, physical ones, accompanied by light phenomena in the surrounding nature, as well as the excitation of the elements, for example, strong wind, change in the color of the Sun. But it wasn't the Sun itself that changed; rather, an energy lens was formed at that location that refracted the light in a special way, so this phenomenon was only for those children and the surrounding people. I appear in a Spiritual phantom.
Vladimir: What was the purpose of these plasmoids, and the purpose of transmitting the secrets that were later gradually published by the Vatican some time later? Why did the plasmoids do this?
Irina: The purpose of these plasmoids' contact with the children was to transmit information about me. Many plasmoid civilizations, of course, know about me, because Angels – my disciples – come into many plasmoid civilizations; I teach these plasmoids to instruct how to properly handle nature, for example, the natural elements. So they naturally know about me, and the purpose of contact with them was to transmit information about me in a form they could perceive, and through the plasmoids' understanding.
I myself made contact in the form of a phantom with these plasmoids. We talked about the information that was transmitted to the children, but they did not tell me exactly what the children wrote down. I will only say what I know from the plasmoids themselves, who saw my phantom and transmitted information about this contact to me. They said that these plasmoids appeared in a form very close to the girls' perception, that is, taking on my image so that they would understand that this information was from me. At that time, they considered it necessary. They said that they warned the girls and not only the girls but also adults, their parents, relatives, about the danger coming from military actions, various robberies, revolutionary actions, etc. The plasmoids said that they should pray more, recite certain prayers, honor the Virgin Mary, and tell everyone about it, otherwise there would be disaster, such as the destruction of that city, country, etc. These were space-type plasmoid civilizations that sensed that a lot of negative energy was coming from Earth, a harbinger of war: there was a lot of aggression and malice in people's minds, which could manifest in the form of some war. Later this manifested in the form of the Great Patriotic War – that was many years later.
Vladimir: The Second World War?
Irina: Yes. War is the release into the dense plane of those tendencies that were manifested long before in the subtle plane, which no one paid attention to in order to reduce them. Therefore, the plasmoids had a mission to transmit this in this form to these children, as they were suitable for contact.
51:08 Is the history of Jesus' family correctly described in the canonical "Gospel"?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, is there any overall difference from the real origin of what is described in the canonical "Gospel" concerning the entire life story of your family and the entire history of Jesus? If yes, what are they, in which parts?
Irina: In the canonical "Gospels", much of our life is not described. The "Gospel" was written with the purpose of transmitting not so much our daily or personal life, but rather the purpose of transmitting the teaching and the importance of the mission. It did not mention from our life, for example, the contacts of my son with representatives of Burhad, that he visited different planets with them, as well as countries on Earth, and that I was also on several such flights, on the ship that the child himself invited me to. He had physical contacts from the age of 6; he visited other planets and different countries of Earth. He was (she now shows me like dots) in India, Tibet, Russia, and America.
Vladimir: Thank you!
52:50 What was Jesus like as a child?
Vladimir: According to Hindu literature, Krishna was mischievous as a child; he stole butter from his mother. Did Jesus have any innocent mischief in his childhood?
Irina: As a child, he told his friends about his contacts. Even in early childhood, he had an amazing contact with his own Spirit, with his Higher Self, with God within. What surprised me most was that as soon as an adult asked him a question about some mundane thing, he could sit down and with a completely serious face begin to talk about God, about Light, about what is truly important in a person's life. This happened almost immediately after he learned to speak. It amazed all of Joseph's relatives, my distant relatives (of which there were quite a few), and their friends who came to visit us. Externally, if you didn't get to know him closely, he was like other children. But at the same time, I noticed that from early childhood, he would illuminate the true essence of people. That is, if a person with a pure heart, with Light, spoke to him, he would begin to radiate it even more into the world, doing good. Although no particular sermon was spoken. But if a person who harbored some grievances or malice towards anyone spoke to him, it would be revealed in him, and the entities within that person would be revealed, and he would begin to show aggression and seek to avoid communication without reason.
55:00 Jesus' favorite food as a child.
Vladimir: What was Jesus' favorite food as a child? Did he eat meat?
Irina: Yes, he ate meat, but not in large quantities. In our time, meat was not that cheap. He mainly ate milk, honey, dates, plant-based food. Meat was occasional, once or twice a month on holidays, not more often. It was mostly mutton, as it was the most accessible; beef was significantly more expensive. He also liked fish, which we had often, as there were many fishermen, and he himself also did that. Almost all boys, especially from poor families, were involved in catching fish, perhaps from the age of 9-10, as they were very independent. And my son was no exception; he also loved this activity, and fish were caught quite often. So he ate cheese, plant products, dates, fruit, milk, barley bread, as it was cheaper than wheat bread.
Maria: Thank you!
57:00 Did Jesus tell his parents about his mission?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, did you and Jesus speak openly in his youth about his mission, about the structure of the universe?
Irina: Yes. I told him about it, but he told me about it more.
Maria: Did you and your husband Joseph know at that time that Jesus was flying with his father on ships around Earth and into space?
Irina: Yes, Joseph knew about the flights, of course. He knew who his father was. Mirakh Kaunt had told him, and he also had contact, but only mentally. He did not express a desire to even meet physically.
Maria: And Joseph?
Irina: She is talking about Joseph now.
Maria: Understood.
Vladimir: Yes, Joseph knew.
Maxim: Was he physically very different from other children and residents who were nearby?
Irina: He had whiter skin than the inhabitants of our people, but not as white as the Burhadians. He was taller than the average person of our people, as he grew quickly – his growth was a bit accelerated. Jesus was above average height, but not by much. There were such tall people among our people, but there were not many.
Vladimir: Thank you!
58:53 Did Jesus know about the probability of his crucifixion before incarnation?
Vladimir: Maria, tell me, please, was everything that happened to Jesus, including the crucifixion, planned with his participation before his incarnation? Was any other scenario possible?
Irina: Not a simple question for me. Because, as I now understand, the future is multi-variant, but the past is one. Yes, naturally, my son knew about the probability of such an outcome of his incarnation on Earth, and even before his crucifixion, he told me that in the Spiritual World before incarnation, the Father, our Father, "My Heavenly Father," that is, God, showed him all the possible scenarios, including the one that would come true. Jesus himself decided to go into that incarnation, fully knowing what awaited him. God the Father considered it necessary to reveal this to him so that he would voluntarily go or not go into it.
Vladimir: If it was a predetermined scenario that Jesus knew about, but he went into that incarnation, how is this different from suicide?
Irina: He went into that incarnation, but he himself was not the cause of death; it was the decision of other people. Moreover, the cause was contrived; in essence, it was not even legal according to the Torah. I remember my son's question when he stood before the assembly of the law of teachers who knew the entire law, and in the Torah there are 613 commandments obligatory to fulfill every day. Very few, practically no one, could observe all of them day after day. There were such moments when someone violated something. For this purpose, there was the possibility of making a sin offering, described in the book of Leviticus, so that the blood of the lamb could cleanse sins, i.e., bring to a pure state with its energy. The sacrifice was performed according to a specific ritual. So, when Christ stood before the great assembly of the law of teachers, and they were not from another city, but from the one where Jesus lived; they had seen him many times and knew him, his life, his family. He asked them a question; in Russian it sounds like this: "Which of you convicts me of sin?" It was not just "Which of you will say that I am lying?" – it meant: "Which of you will say that I have ever violated any commandment of the Torah?" And he asked not a crowd of people, but those who knew him very well, who were ill-disposed, biased toward my son; they were interested in finding a flaw in him. But nevertheless, none of them came forward and said anything about it.
This indicates that my son's death was not predetermined by God the Father. It was known to my son himself, but at the same time, this knowledge did not predetermine the will of those who did it. And when someone commits suicide, the Soul itself is the cause of death of its body. Here, Jesus knew that it would happen. So there is still a difference from suicide.
Vladimir: I apologize for this question. It's just that I know it was on the minds of many of our viewers and listeners; I couldn't not ask it. Masha, please.
1:04:07 Who was Judas the son of James?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, what was Jesus' brother by father – Judas, who is known to us as Saint Jude the Apostle? And why is so little said about him in the "Gospel"?
Irina: Brother of Jesus, what?
Maria: By father – Judas.
Vladimir: He had a brother named Judas. He was a brother by father. That is, who was also born to Joseph. In short, the son of Joseph.
Irina: The Apostle?
Vladimir: Later he became an Apostle, but very little is said about him in the "Gospel" – Apostle Jude.
Maxim: And ask, was it so?
Vladimir: Yes, ask that too.
Irina: Yes, indeed, he was an Apostle. He was not the son of Joseph. He was the son of his sister.
Maria: Nephew.
Irina: He wrote one of the epistles that was included in the New Testament, and preached like all the Apostles. Christ told him to go preach after the day of Pentecost. The Holy Spirit and Christ in phantom form told all the Apostles to go preach in different countries. Judas also went and preached throughout Asia Minor, the North Caucasus, etc. There were two Apostles named Judas.
Vladimir: That's not the Judas who betrayed Jesus; we'll ask about him later. This is a completely different person, just the same name. Thank you very much, I have the next question.
1:06:12 Why did Jesus himself leave no writings?
Vladimir: And why did Jesus himself leave no writings? Or are those writings lost?
Irina: He knew that preaching by word was most effective. Writings appeared later because few people knew how to read books. If he had left writings, they would have needed to be copied, and the work of a copyist was very expensive – it was serious work, and moreover, largely useless, as there were very few who could read. Therefore, he preached by word and deed. He did not keep any writings, at least not systematically. He did not carry any manuscript with him that could later be published.
Vladimir: Understood.
1:07:10 Are the "Dead Sea Scrolls" authentic?
Vladimir: Are the so-called "Dead Sea Scrolls" authentic? Those found in caves in the mountains near the Dead Sea in Israel. Various scrolls with writings that contain descriptions of Jesus' life not included in any canonical texts.
Irina: Many people compiled descriptions of Jesus' life, for example, Mary Magdalene, Apostle Thomas, Apostle Peter, Peter's disciple and follower Mark wrote (and this was included in the Canon), but it was a sort of transmission of what Peter himself recorded.
Vladimir: Does this mean that the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene", which is available in open sources but is not considered canonical and is rejected by the church, is actually authentic?
Irina: At least, she wrote a biography – I know that for sure, I saw it myself. She was a literate woman. Whether what is now called by her name corresponds to that – that needs to be examined. I am not familiar with that text.
Vladimir: Did Judas, the one who betrayed, manage to write anything down? And have those records survived until he committed suicide?
Irina: Managed to what?
Vladimir: Before he committed suicide. Did Judas, who betrayed Jesus, manage to make any records? And have they survived in any form?
Irina: After that moment, I did not see him in that state. But the Apostles Peter, Andrew, John the Theologian, and others saw him, met with him. They said that in the state he was in, it was unlikely that it occurred to him to write anything down. He was in complete depression, devastated.
1:09:20 Was Mary Magdalene married? Who is depicted in "The Last Supper" painting?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, was Mary Magdalene married during Jesus' life or after his death? Did she have children?
Irina: Yes, she was married. But she met her future husband and entered into marriage with him after meeting Jesus, before his crucifixion and resurrection. She had three children.
Maria: Thank you! Tell me, please, was she at the "Last Supper"? And is she the one depicted to the left of Jesus in Leonardo da Vinci's painting?
Irina: If it's the painting I'm thinking of, it depicts only Christ and his 12 Apostles. As for the Last Supper – this celebration took place in stages. Initially, I was there, and my other children, Mary Magdalene, and the wives of the Apostles were also there, and in the part of the celebration where he sat with the disciples, she was also there.
Maria: Thank you!
Vladimir: Understood, thank you!
1:11:15 Why did Jesus tell the Pharisees, "Your father is the devil"?
Vladimir: Tell me, please, why did Jesus tell the Pharisees: "Your father is the devil"? This is included in the "Gospel". And now many interpret it as if he was referring to the devil, speaking about Yahweh and his teachings?
Irina: His beloved Apostle John the Theologian wrote about this – not that he was the most beloved, but the one to whom he spoke most often about love. After these words, there is an explanation of why your father is the devil; I will tell you. He called them that because he saw their intention and thoughts that they were trying to destroy him. And to destroy the path of Light to which he called people, for absolutely no reason, but simply because they did not like people coming to the Light, the destruction of their, how would you say, "vibrations". Before these words, attempts had already been made to kill him – to incite the people to stone him, etc. Therefore, he called them the "father of the devil". He said this after they emphasized in conversation with him that their father is God, and he told them that your father is the devil, because he is a murderer. The devil is precisely a murderer. By the word "devil" he meant the Spirit who turned away from Light, meaning he turned away from life. And whoever turns away from life will seek to destroy, kill others, because that is his idea; he must go through such an experience; he chose it.
Therefore, Jesus said that the Spirit who has descended to the level of the devil is from the beginning a murderer of people; he did not stand in the truth; he is the father of lies, etc. Father of lies, firstly, not because he lies to someone, but because he gave birth to it. He lied to himself that Light is not what one should strive for, and that one does not need to give unconditional love and truth, but rather develop some one side of one's personality – we now call it ego, selfishness. This was the lie of this Spirit to himself; therefore, he is the father of lies. Any demon, any devil is also the father of lies, because he lied to himself, first and foremost. He is in illusion, lives by it, and does not wish to leave it, even if he understands it is not the truth. He is a murderer because he kills, destroys people's lives for his own purposes. Therefore, they wanted to kill him, and many attempts had already been made. And at that moment when they said to him: "Our father is God," he looked at their thoughts, their mental fields collectively, and saw that these thoughts of murder had not gone away; they harbored them within themselves. So he said: "Your father is the devil." By this, he emphasized that God does not call for murder, and they, by thinking about it, turn away from God, submit to the devil (the evil Spirit), and become his sons.
Vladimir: Thank you very much! Mash, please.
Maria: Thank you!
1:15:44 Why did Judas Iscariot betray Jesus? Did Jesus know about Judas' betrayal in advance?
Maria: Why did Judas Iscariot betray Jesus? Did Jesus himself tell him to do it? Or did Judas want to motivate Jesus with this, to show his power and lead a rebellion against the Romans? Or was there a third reason?
Irina: Yes, he wanted to motivate him. That's what Mirakh Kaunt said, and I myself think so. Jesus did not tell him this, but he knew about it.
Vladimir: Did Jesus know about this?
Irina: Jesus knew about it. From the very beginning, when Judas was his disciple, when he told him what he did not tell other people, taught him to heal illnesses, cast out evil Spirits, etc. Judas had high vibrations at that time. But Jesus knew that it was he who would betray him, and he knew the reason. But he did not show this in his behavior. Jesus had such self-control that he mentally saw that kiss and yet accepted him among his disciples and treated him exactly the same as the others.
Vladimir: We'll repeat this once more – Judas hoped that if Jesus were placed in such conditions that he would be forced to show his strength, which he had hidden, and instead of calling to turn the other cheek, he would lead a Jewish uprising against the Romans. Was that Judas' calculation?
Irina: Yes. And my son told me that he saw his thoughts, felt them; at the time of the betrayal, he was practically sure of this.
Maria: Understood. Maria, tell me, please, at what level of the Spiritual World did Judas end up after his suicide, and where is he now?
Irina: After the suicide, he ended up at the 4th level. Yes, naturally, my son followed his path; he even came to his level in the Spiritual World. After that, Judas incarnated in plasmoid worlds. Now his guardian Angels have allowed him to go through one more life in a dense-material body on Earth. He is currently incarnated on Earth.
Vladimir: In which country?
Irina: In Russia.
Vladimir: We'll cut this out just in case, if it's possible to say who?
Irina: She showed me, but I don't know him. I don't know who it is at all.
Vladimir: Does he look like an ordinary person?
Maria: So, none of the famous politicians?
Irina: No. I don't know him at all. Under 50, maybe; I don't know such a person. She says – she knows his image. But he himself does not know, does not remember.
Maria: That his Spirit was once Judas Iscariot?
Vladimir: What is the purpose of his current earthly incarnation?
Irina: Mirakh Kaunt will answer better; he is familiar with his guardian Angels.
Vladimir: We're listening, Mirakh Kaunt.
Irina: After 3 plasmoid incarnations, he raised his level to the 8th. Initially, he had up to the 12th, then again dropped to the 9th level. His task in this incarnation is to learn mercy, compassion, helping others, which was set for this incarnation before he was sent into this body. He is in the body of a man. And he also needs to learn to value his physical body, as after these three plasmoid incarnations, he has become unaccustomed to dense-material energies.
Vladimir: Has he forgiven himself on the Spiritual level for what he did to Jesus?
Irina: After he reached the 4th level, yes.
Vladimir: I see; he had the opportunity to forgive himself there.
Irina: Then he incarnated as an earthly-type plasmoid – of the Earth element. He was there at the 7th density level, felt very guilty, and said: "I will atone for my guilt in any case." He did not consider himself worthy of greater deeds than creating the Souls of insects.
Vladimir: Understood.
1:20:55 What did Jesus say to God before his death on the cross?
Vladimir: Why did Jesus cry out to God before his death on the cross that God had forsaken him?
Irina: Not like that. He did not feel that God had forsaken him. In the last moment of his life, parting with his body, he was talking about leaving the body. He said: "Receive my Spirit." Before his death, it was his request in Aramaic that God not forsake all of us, that is, his disciples and even those who crucified him – that prayer was for them.
Vladimir: So they misheard, misinterpreted his words.
Irina: Not exactly misinterpreted, but they didn't know the translation. Simply, he said it practically in a state of agony. Moreover, there was noise from the crowd, it was indistinguishable. He was not in a state to monitor his pronunciation of words at that moment.
Vladimir: Can it be said that his suffering on the cross, because his channels were all open, was greater and stronger than the suffering of an ordinary person who might find themselves in that situation?
Irina: You know, I asked my son himself a similar question. He answered me that with all his sensitivity to others' pain, he cannot say whose suffering is greater. Because each person perceives physical, mental, spiritual pain individually. Much also depends on the person's own reaction to it.
Vladimir: Understood.
Maria: Did he call out the name of the Prophet Elijah?
Vladimir: Yes, I already understood. He called out the name of the Prophet Elijah; he cried out "Eli." So some believe that he called out the name of the Prophet Elijah.
Irina: Eli is God. Not Elijah, but Eli.
Vladimir: Yes, I understood.
1:23:27 Who took the body of Jesus Christ from the tomb?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, at what moment did you learn that the Burhadians took Jesus' body and restored it?
Irina: The night before he was taken, early in the morning, I knew nothing; the Apostles told me after they found the empty tomb.
Maria: Understood. And how did they neutralize the Romans guarding the cave? And did they retain the memory of this episode?
Irina: They retained the memory. Mirakh Kaunt was there directly in physical body and did it. He says that the ship landed in front of the cave, this stone, and the soldiers. It was in the form of a glowing sphere with three supports. Not a sphere, but slightly elongated upward, like an oval. From it came a yellow light first. And the soldiers who were there perceived it as a descending Angel, even more – as a Deity. But some instinctively grabbed their spears, not because they wanted to harm the arrivals, but simply out of fear. The rest just watched. Then three representatives of Burhad came out of the ship, one of them being Mirakh Kaunt. And when the soldiers saw that human-like beings had emerged from this object, some decided that they were people from another country. When they approached the stone, some thought: "Whoever they are, we were ordered to guard the cave." They tried to intervene – to approach, ask something, stop them.
Vladimir: How many soldiers were there in total?
Irina: About 40 people.
Vladimir: Understood. So, they tried to approach…
Irina: About 6 people approached, while the rest waited for a reaction. And precisely at these people, a beam was directed from the ship, not from the Burhadians, but from the ship itself, such that the soldiers wanted to approach but could not move from their spot – such was the ship's defense. It did not affect their brain but immobilized their muscles, while they understood what was happening. Mirakh Kaunt says that their memory was not erased; there was no need for it. Why do it? Then contacts were not as secret as they are now. Later, these soldiers went and told what had happened. Naturally, they said that Gods had taken the body on a ship, etc. And then, to prevent the rumor from spreading that Gods had taken Christ, or any other rumor of a religious nature, the priests themselves bribed these soldiers and told them to tell people that while they were sleeping, the disciples had stolen him. Mirakh Kaunt said that the stone was moved using an anti-gravity beam; they did not touch it with their hands.
Vladimir: Understood. Did Pilate himself believe these soldiers when he heard their story?
Irina: Mirakh Kaunt thinks not entirely. He doubted.
1:27:54 Why did Jesus ask his disciples not to touch him after the resurrection?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, why did Jesus ask his disciples – the Apostles – when he appeared to them, not to touch him immediately after the resurrection?
Irina: Why did he ask them not to touch him after he appeared? He told them that because he had entered the body, his genetics had changed, and because he had merged with this body, his energy was different, his vibration had changed; sitting near him, touching him could be harmful, and if a person had some hidden blocks, they could manifest in the form of pain, etc. It was simply a safety precaution. After Jesus was crucified and beaten before their eyes, the disciples had a negative reaction to this event, and they needed time to remove these blocks from themselves. So it's not that he forbade them to touch him, but rather he himself was afraid to communicate closely with them because it might cause some negative reactions in their bodies.
Vladimir: Understood, thank you!
1:29:45 The version that Jesus was crucified in Turkey.
Vladimir: Tell me, please, Maria, why did such a version arise that supposedly Jesus was crucified not in Jerusalem, but in Turkey, near modern-day Istanbul? What do you think?
Irina: Such an execution was characteristic of many places in the Roman Empire. Possibly, a disciple of Christ was crucified in Turkey, who was mistaken for him. Such cases occurred; Apostles were also crucified on the cross, for example, Andrew, who was then in Asia Minor. He first traveled to Russia, not Russia – it didn't exist then – but to where the Slavs lived. He preached there, but he wasn't executed; they listened to him. The execution came later.
Vladimir: Understood.
1:31:10 How old was Jesus when Joseph died?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, how old was Jesus when Joseph died?
Irina: When Joseph died, he was approximately 23-24 years old.
Vladimir: Understood, thank you!
1:31:30 Jesus' attitude towards physical intimacy among earthlings. Apostles on family life.
Vladimir: Tell me, please, what was Jesus' attitude towards physical intimacy among earthlings during his lifetime?
Irina: How to understand such a question, what attitude?
Vladimir: Did he condemn it or welcome it in his sermons? Or something else?
Irina: No, he did not condemn it. He was present many times at marriages, at weddings. He had married disciples; he visited their homes. He saw the relationships between husband and wife many times. He did not condemn it at all. He knew perfectly well what kind of intimacy occurs between husband and wife. In Ancient Israel, children learned about this at a fairly early age.
Vladimir: What is the reason that the Apostles in their writings gave such messages that were later used by the church to condemn everything related to physical intimacy?
Irina: The Apostles never condemned physical intimacy.
Vladimir: As I recall, Paul has something about, at least it's interpreted that way, that one can live in marriage, but it is better for a person to be alone. There is something like that; I remember it.
Irina: The Apostle Paul, whose close disciple and co-worker was my husband, Luke, naturally knew about the intimacy between Luke and me.
Vladimir: Luke is the Apostle, correct?
Irina: Yes. He wrote the book "Acts of the Apostles" and his own "Gospel". Many places in the "Gospel" concerning me, I told him myself.
Vladimir: So, it was essentially jealousy on Paul's part in some way?
Irina: He never said such things to my husband or anyone in his presence that he in any way places higher on the Spiritual plane those who have not touched a woman. I know which epistle you are talking about. In that epistle, he meant those who want to dedicate themselves completely to God, all their strength, time, and all their energy, and at that time they needed to spend their resources – traveling, preaching, and it also brought the danger of persecution, of being killed; they needed to spend it on serving God. Therefore, the Apostle Paul was simply giving his personal spiritual advice that if you want to dedicate yourself completely to God and not have sorrows in your family world, not have grief, then it is better not to touch a woman. And if you enter into sexual intimacy with her, then according to Jewish and Christian laws, you need to enter into marriage with her. Entering into marriage is not something that could hinder, but simply it was quite difficult for some Christians to combine family life and service to Christ, especially in conditions of persecution. They could have children. They need to provide for children, leaving less time for preaching, while the family itself was subjected to persecution. The Apostle Paul knew all this well. Therefore, he emphasized that before a Christian man gets married or a Christian woman gets married, they must weigh everything. In another epistle, the Apostle Paul wrote words that were translated into Russian as: "Marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled." He meant the marriage bed, which according to the rules of Judaism is a sleeping place, and what happens on the marriage bed should remain only between the two. It was a secret, a mystery, the union of the masculine and feminine principles. It was not to be discussed openly with friends, etc. What does "undefiled" mean? It means it does not carry sin. And if it does not carry sin, then the path of monasticism and the path of married Christians are equally pure and honorable before God; it is simply a different service. The Apostle Paul emphasized the greater difficulty of combining marriage and Christian service, especially in conditions of persecution.
Vladimir: Understood, thank you!
Maria: Thank you!
1:37:28 Distortions in the Christian egregor. Metanoia, Soteria, fasting.
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, are there any distortions in the Christian egregor that should be corrected now?
Irina: My opinion is that I am the mother of Christ, and therefore I treat every Christian as his mother. He unites with the energy of my son at the moment of the Eucharist. And with my energy, he also unites when he recites a prayer to me, and when he receives communion – he also unites with my energy, because in the blood and flesh of Christ, there is also my energy: I gave birth to his body.
What would I change, what distortions? Firstly, if I were in the place of the leaders of the Christian denomination, I would make a new translation from the Greek. If speaking specifically about Russia, then specifically into Russian, where not just a contextual translation would be taken into account, but the spiritual meaning would be conveyed.
Indeed, I believe that some words are translated incorrectly. For example, Mirakh Kaunt correctly says that the word "metanoia" is translated inaccurately; I would translate it as "change of mind," not "repentance." The word "soteria," which is translated as "salvation," I would translate as "restoration of wholeness with God"; it can also be translated as "salvation," "healing," as well as "restoration." But healing not physical, but specifically on a spiritual level. That is, I would emphasize slightly different things. For example, there is a place where it says that Christians should not indulge in gluttony and drunkenness, but should be watchful and pray during fasting – this is in the Gospel of Luke. That is, this verse was used to build the Orthodox teaching on fasting, although the word "gluttony" was not there at all. It was about excessive indulgence in alcohol. So such concepts that were not originally spoken by my son, but the meaning was introduced later, I would definitely change.
Vladimir: Understood, thank you!
1:40:40 What will be the role of the Mother of God when Earth is on the path to joining the Interstellar Union?
Vladimir: Tell me, please, what will be your role when Earth is already on the path to joining the Interstellar Union, i.e., when humanity has specific actions in this direction, having become convinced that the Interstellar Union exists?
Irina: Repeat the question.
Vladimir: What will be your role when our civilization already understands that the Interstellar Union exists and is on the path to joining it, when we begin to consider this decision?
Irina: In any case, I will help this process through my contactees with my energy. Like my son, I am fully in favor of earthlings joining the Interstellar Union, which was created with the participation of a planet, the ancestors of the race where Christ now lives. He participated in the creation of the Interstellar Union on the planet Burhad even before the creation of earthlings.
Vladimir: And how do you see your role after joining the Interstellar Union occurs, and Jesus, as we know, will come at the request of earthlings? That is, the Second Coming will happen. What will be your role in that situation?
Irina: That is one of the possible scenarios. I will continue to contact him, but I have no plans to incarnate in any form on Burhad or on Earth.
1:42:27 Teachers of the Interstellar Union on the spiritual level.
Vladimir: Are you or Jesus, or both of you together, mentors on the Spiritual plane for those Burhadians who are in the highest echelons of power of Burhad and the Interstellar Union in general?
Irina: You could say so – Archangels. My Spirit can be called an Archangel, only not in male form, but in the form of a woman. Angels above the 22nd-23rd level are Archangels. They are naturally the teachers of the Interstellar Union on the Spiritual level.
In the Interstellar Union, there is a special, as you call it, "group of scientists" – contactees with the Spiritual world, who receive messages.
Vladimir: Understood.
Maria: Thank you!
1:43:21 Which is the most energy-saturated prayer to the Mother of God?
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, what happens when you are addressed through prayer? And which prayer to you do you yourself recommend to Orthodox believers first and foremost?
Irina: The very kind, bright prayer that Vladimir recited, also the prayer that is based on the words of Mirakh Kaunt: "Rejoice, O Virgin Mother of God." Also a very energy-saturated prayer that establishes a channel with me, but only with faith that it is possible, and with the desire for me to help them.
Vladimir: On the energetic level during prayer, does a connection with you occur? What exactly happens?
Irina: Not a connection with me, but I feel that love for me that is expressed in the words of the prayer. When a person reads a prayer, he wishes to say what is written there, so I feel that energy and send my ray of love in response.
1:44:38 Is there a difference between praying in church and at home?
Vladimir: Is there a difference in effect between a prayer recited during a church service and one where a person simply prays at home in his own words before your icon?
Irina: It all depends on that person's faith.
Vladimir: If a person sincerely believes in both cases, is there a difference between praying in church and at home?
Irina: No, practically the same effect. But if he believes that the ritual, the ceremony, enhances the prayer, then yes, in that case it will be enhanced. If he does not believe, and the prayer itself has more meaning for him than the ritual, then it will not have that meaning.
1:45:23 The Mother of God on the meaning of making the sign of the cross. How should one cross oneself?
Maria: Tell me, please, is it necessary to cross oneself in a strictly defined way to enhance prayer? And is it necessary to cross oneself at all?
Irina: It depends on the rules, canons, dogmas of the denomination you belong to. Making the sign of the cross over oneself is a sign of a Christian, which at the level of faith and religion signifies the sign that he has crucified himself on the cross. According to the commandment "Crucify your flesh with its passions and lusts," which was conveyed in one of the epistles of the Apostle Paul, it is a visible expression that the person agrees with this, and he takes up his cross according to the word of my son: "Take up your cross and follow Me." It is an image that the person agrees with this.
And on the energetic level, if he does it with faith, touching the sixth and third energy centers, he connects the 6th energy center – Spiritual mind, intuitive insight – with the 3rd energy center – willpower – and distributes it to the shoulders. In the shoulders are the exits of the etheric channels that direct his strength to the physical world through the palms. He connects his energy system with the Spiritual channel that goes through the 6th energy center to his central sun – this is called willpower, which in the 3rd energy center is a collection of etheric energy. That is, he connects Divine energy with his personal energy and distributes it to the physical world. That is what happens on an energetic level.
Vladimir: There was a question about how this relates to energy centers, chakras, and I want to clarify one thing. I instinctively started crossing myself like this: I also touch the solar plexus, and then lower – in the area of the second chakra. Does this make sense? That is, I include another point. Usually, people cross themselves like this (shows). So I include an intermediate point.
Maxim: You'll build a new church, and everything will be fine.
Vladimir: I want to hear the answer from Mary, can I?
Irina: After the solar plexus, instead of the etheric channels, you place your hands on some other energy center – you direct that energy to the energy center you placed them on, and then you only direct the remainder of the energy to the etheric. But the main energy goes to the etheric field of the energy center you placed your hands on, i.e., what you direct the energy to.
Vladimir: So the main energy is on the vertical axis?
Maxim: Yes, you direct all the main energy exactly there – downwards, that's correct.
Vladimir: That's how it should be, understood. Once more, is this positive or is it a mistake? I'm trying to understand.
Irina: It is simply what happens in an energetic sense. Possibly, it happens because you need, for example, to unblock the second energy center, so it's positive. But if it is already unblocked, then by sending the main energy there, and not into the physical world through your hands, you are simply directing the energy of your channel, the main flow, not into the physical world, but towards yourself.
Vladimir: Good. I thank you, thank you!
1:49:40 The Mother of God on the myrrh-streaming of icons.
Vladimir: We have a few questions left. Next question: what is the nature of the myrrh-streaming on the physical and Spiritual planes of your icons and icons in general?
Irina: It is the materialized energy of the egregor plus my own, which I share with people, and which manifests in physical form through the secretion of a certain substance.
Vladimir: How does this substance appear on our physical level?
Irina: The energy of the Spiritual plane undergoes materialization. It is a stream of energy that begins to vibrate slower and then condenses, like liquid appearing from gas, for example.
Vladimir: So it's a genuine materialization of some Spiritual substances into molecules of the physical world. And "myrrh" becomes "myrrh" – that is, materialization of what we call "myrrh" occurs. Spiritual particles condense and become physical molecules?
Irina: Yes, of course, such a thing is possible. It is energy. But I want to say that this is possible not only in the Christian egregor, but actually in many egregors. But this is not done just like that, but for a specific purpose. It requires a large amount of energy and its direction. This is done by Angels – the guardians of the egregor – not just to amaze believers, but to have some purpose for which it is done. Possibly, even the energy of many generations of believers is expended on this materialization.
Vladimir: Thank you!
1:51:33 Apparition of the Mother of God to Seraphim of Sarov in Diveyevo.
Vladimir: Is it true that you specifically visit those whom we call sinners at low levels of the Spiritual World?
Irina: Yes, my phantoms can. I would now like to tell more about Seraphim. When I appeared before him in phantom form and told him on a mental level to build a church, a monastery, and even showed him the place to do it. But since on the Spiritual level it was visible that military actions, war, were approaching, I recommended that he dig a moat around this future monastery during construction. He did this, but not immediately, a few years later. And then there was a war between you Russians.
Vladimir: Civil.
Maria: Internal strife.
Irina: The war at the beginning of the 19th century, but that war was later.
Vladimir: Yes, understood.
Irina: And after the war and the change of power, this monastery, which had begun to be built, where there were already some buildings, was destroyed. After the community you call the Soviet Union disintegrated again in your country, Orthodox believers returned to the monastery, and they revived everything. Now there exists a place there that the Orthodox call the Path of the Mother of God. Indeed, I, in the form of a phantom, walked there before him and showed where the boundaries of this area should be. Now I feel a flow of energy from there, because believers who go there believe that when they walk around this place and read a prayer to me with faith, they connect with me and receive help from me. I feel a great flow of energy from there. An aura has already gathered in that place that contributes to raising vibrations.
Vladimir: Maria, tell me, please, since we started talking about Seraphim of Sarov, why was an attack against him permitted, which ended almost tragically? He was the incarnated Archangel Michael. Why did robbers attack him, smash his head, and almost kill him? Why was this allowed when he was in a hermitage, in the forest?
Irina: For his lesson, for humility, as a test of how he would react, because he is a high Angel.
Vladimir: Understood.
Maria: Thank you!
1:54:46 Division into Orthodox and Catholic confessions.
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, is the division of Christianity into Orthodox and Catholic confessions merely the product of human conflicts among the clergy? Or is it truly by the will of Jesus that they differ on an energetic level and are different egregors?
Irina: No, they are not different egregors, but two parts of one egregor, like several rooms in a house, one could say figuratively, if the egregor is a house. This was not the will of Jesus, because he always wanted everyone to be united. The division is the will of humanity in that both sides did not accept each other and did not show patience, humility, and their love.
Maria: Thank you!
Vladimir: Thank you!
1:55:49 Is it possible to visit churches of different confessions and pray there?
Vladimir: I have a very important question personally for me and, I think, for many others. Is it possible, if desired, to visit churches of different confessions on different days, or maybe even on the same day, for example, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., pray there according to all traditions for the benefit of one's development, and without fear of being punished by these egregors if you are not rigidly devoted to just one of them?
Irina: All religious egregors are still led by Angels. And often one Angel or several Angels lead several egregors. Therefore, if on a spiritual level you feel the unity of these religions, or unity not in dogmas or rituals, but specifically at a higher level of ideas, then I see no obstacle here. It is the desire of your heart. The egregors themselves cannot punish anyone at such a level, especially such light egregors led by Angels. If the person himself believes that one religion is right for him and others are not, but still goes for some reason to a temple of another religion and believes that he did it wrong, then yes. He receives a response from the egregor that this faith is destroying his faith, because he himself believes that. But if you accept everything as truth, see truth in many teachings – there are no obstacles, because all are from our One Father.
Vladimir: I thank you for this answer, very important to me, and I am sure for very many of our listeners and viewers. We have only two questions left.
1:57:40 Mother of God – address to representatives of the Christian, Islamic, Buddhist, Jewish, Vedic Spiritual egregors.
Maria: Maria, tell me, please, can you briefly formulate separately the spiritual goals at the most global level, which each of the four major earthly religions is meant to serve according to the design of the Spiritual World, i.e., for each religion separately? What does each one bring?
Irina: Formulate what?
Vladimir: The goals. The goals of each of the four religions.
Maria: Spiritual goals for each religion.
Irina: All clear, good. For Judaism, Islam...
Vladimir: Let it be for Christianity and Hinduism. So, once more: Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism, that makes five.
Irina: For each, briefly formulate the goal of their religions?
Vladimir: What were they on Earth for, each of them? What is the purpose of their presence on Earth?
Irina: The goal of the Jewish religious egregor – was the creation of a single people, raising its vibrations for the incarnation of both me in this egregor and my son. At present, the goal of this religious egregor is to raise the level of consciousness and vibrations, of religious veneration in the form of worship. Worship is a form of love accessible to the religious consciousness of all Jews who adhere to the traditions of monotheism, etc. That is the true purpose.
To the representatives of this religion, I could say that my son Christ was indeed the Mashiach and is not guilty of the persecutions that some followers of the Christian teaching subjected representatives of your nationality to. To make my words more convincing, I want to remind you that some representatives of Christian denominations persecuted representatives of other Christian denominations, even of the same nationality, with no less cruelty. Therefore, I ask you to show more prudence towards the Christians around you and show them more love.
Address to the Christian egregor. I love you all, dear brothers and sisters! I, together with Christ, unite with you in every Eucharist, as my energy is also contained in these sacred gifts. There are many temptations, upheavals, condemnations around you, and my wish for you is: always follow the two commandments of Christ, which are the most important in all his teachings and in his entire life, death, and resurrection. The first commandment – "Love the Lord God," and the second – "Love your neighbor as yourself." Without developing this great, bright, divine energy in yourself, fasts, rituals, reciting prayers, sacraments, and even the very life of Christ on Earth become meaningless. Therefore, Love is above all; it covers a multitude of sins. I ask you to remember this and ask you to treat representatives of other religious or occult movements, representatives of an atheistic worldview, with greater Love, greater openness, and a desire to understand them. You do not necessarily have to change your faith or accept their position. Just treat them with greater sympathy and less condemnation, because from the heart of a person in whom Love does not live, the presence of God also departs.
As for representatives of Islam. The Islamic religious egregor was formed to unite the disparate Arab tribes who were constantly at war with each other, with cruel laws of blood vengeance and other laws unjust from the point of view of divine design. The egregor was formed to create a single people united by the idea of one God. For this purpose, a representative of Tumesout, whom you know as the Angel Jibra'il, initiated contact with a representative of one of the Arab tribes – Muhammad – and transmitted a specific text to him. Unfortunately, not everyone accepted his teachings. He faced many attacks; his family was robbed; there were several attempts on his life and the life of his wife, etc. Laws relating to the state of war were transmitted to Muhammad and his followers. There were indeed calls to fight one's enemies so that they would create some kind of community, etc. Something similar was transmitted by my son Yahweh himself, incarnated as a Tumesoutian during the time of Moses and Joshua's war, and of all the Jews for the return to Palestine after the Egyptian captivity. Similar laws and commandments were also transmitted to David, Solomon, and other Jewish kings by other prophets and contactees from Burhad and Tumesout. But not all of them were recorded in the books of the prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Hosea – you can read them.
I want to address the representatives of the Islamic religious egregor. Each of you must not forget that Allah is the Creator of all worlds and the Creator of all Souls. He treats every soul with equal Love, regardless of which country it lives in, which planet, or which religion it belongs to. Through the Quran, good laws have been given to you to cleanse yourself from evil in your Soul through alms, prayer, pilgrimages, and constant remembrance of Allah in your mind. I urge you not to accept – and I know such people exist – the laws of war transmitted to Muhammad as laws necessary for fulfillment now, when you need to develop peace within yourself, within your soul, and spread love in the material world around you. Only this will lead to the manifestation of Allah over the entire Universe. That is, Allah is God. He already rules the entire Universe, but for us to perceive His authority, we must manifest our free will, as Christ said when teaching to pray: "Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven." I will convey the words of this prayer more precisely: "May Your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven." Divine will is the law of Divine Love. And whoever is a pure vessel of Love does not need any external restrictions, laws, or canons. He will always act according to truth. I ask you to remember this.
To representatives of what I understand is Hinduism – there are many different movements. I address the representatives of the Vedic egregor. Dear representatives of Vedic Rus', Vedic India, and other representatives of polytheistic systems who feel in their souls that besides the one God, there are many of his servants, co-workers, whom you can also call gods. Hinduism is a collection of religious and philosophical movements that appeared very long ago – before the birth of Christ, before Buddhism, almost immediately after the war 12,000 years ago. There were already religious movements, connections, contacts with plasmoid civilizations, based on totemism, magic, and other cults of plasmoid origin, traces of which have been preserved in the Vedas, the Upanishads, and practically all religious scriptures. Your religions have had a colossal significance in preparing all subsequent religious movements, in preparing and building all subsequent egregors, including the Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. It was the foundation on which others later built.
I want to address all followers of Hindu and Slavic movements that recognize many gods, that you be more reasonable in terms of showing Love to those who disagree with your ideas. So that you, dissolving in nature, sending Love to natural phenomena, animals, insects, do not forget about the people around you, that they also need Love. And that, after all, human life and well-being on Earth are of paramount importance for the evolution of the entire planet Earth, including the plant and animal world, the entire biosphere as a whole, and for the development of the ideas of divine evolution of the Spirit.
Maxim: All done?
Irina: Buddhism remains.
Vladimir: Yes, we have Buddhism left.
Irina: The purpose of creating the Buddhist egregor was to manifest the teaching of the inner Light amidst the polytheistic Hindu movements. I greatly love the Buddha, specifically Gautama Buddha, because 500 years before the birth of my son in Israel, in India, except for the crucifixion and all the persecutions, he in many ways repeated the path of my son in preaching a new faith, that there are no gods in the form you are accustomed to perceiving. Because many Brahmins, like some representatives of modern religions now, did not see the content behind the form. They demanded only the performance of rituals and did not engage in the spiritual development of their charges. Gautama, who experienced the union with Light and came to be called Buddha – "the enlightened one," taught that this Light is within everyone, regardless of race, varna, caste, thereby causing much persecution and ridicule; he was even driven out of some cities. The Brahmins accused him of violating the ordinances of their forefathers, their ancestors, just as Christ was accused of violating some laws of Moses. Their paths are very similar, but fortunately for Gautama, the followers of Hinduism did not use the death penalty for violators of their laws, so he lived long enough and managed to pass on much to his disciples, who later developed his egregor. Gautama is now in the Spiritual World. I communicate with him.
I want to address the followers of his egregor. Representatives of the Buddhist egregor, I want to tell you that your teacher, whom you now follow on the path to enlightenment, did not teach that God exists in the form that other religions teach; he did not say that he completely denied Him. He called Him the inner Light, enlightenment.
Enlightenment is precisely the joining to God. And what he called Nirvana is not the cessation of the existence of the Soul (Spirit), but a certain state of higher vibrations in which you know everything: omniscience, omnipotence, Light, union with it. He expressed this in the language taught to him by his teachers, the hermits – that there is nothing material, but this does not mean that he denied the value of matter; he merely said that spiritual priorities should come first. Therefore, I urge you not to condemn the path of matter, matter itself, and various religious confessions that recognize God, etc. Your path of inner contemplation, which you call "emptiness," does not mean there is nothing there at all; it means there is nothing there that is in the material world. Again, it is focusing on the Spirit. This is a wonderful teaching, and I urge you to follow it, while not considering mere liberation from some emotional blocks and reactions as enlightenment.
Maria: Thank you!
Vladimir: I thank you from the bottom of my heart, from the whole planet, for these most important messages to all confessions. I have one more clarifying question, and then the very last one, and that's all. Did I understand correctly that in this case, Archangel Jibra'il is a representative of Tumesout? It was not Archangel Gabriel – Mirakh Kaunt from Burhad. In Islam, it is believed that Archangel Gabriel transmitted the Quran to Muhammad.
Irina: It was not Gabriel or Michael; he was his friend and also an Archangel. He is currently incarnated.
Vladimir: So it was not Archangel Gabriel, but a different spiritual figure. Jibra'il from Tumesout is two different… Now it's much clearer to me. Good.
Irina: Jibra'il is the Arabic name; he has a slightly different name…
2:18:00 Sincere forgiveness.
Vladimir: It is believed that Jibra'il is supposedly Gabriel. Now the clarification is clear, very important. Not even a clarification, but extremely important information. I have the last question; it sounds like this: is it possible to say that to forgive means not just magnanimously release a person from their guilt, but it is the realization that there was no guilt on the part of the forgiven, and that true forgiveness is possible only in this case? That is, the understanding that the one who caused the harm was serving a higher good, fulfilling a higher divine will; can one think so?
Irina: You know, the higher divine will is that we all serve the Light, love each other. But we can deviate from this by our own free will, as it is given to us. Naturally, it is also divine will that we deviate, because it has already been given to us. As for forgiving – it is not to say guilty or not guilty, not to justify them, but to restore peace in your own soul, to realize that what was done was a lesson for us, it made us stronger – that's the first thing. And second – to realize that if they did it in a state of lowered vibrations, unconsciousness, lack of love, and if you sincerely send them the Light of love, it will allow them to raise their vibrations and return to God.
The sign of sincere forgiveness is not that you somehow restore the relationship; perhaps they themselves do not wish to restore it. The sign of sincere forgiveness is wishing not just something neutral – let them "live well" – but wishing them true happiness in God, refusing to demand back what they took from you, for example. It is the full acceptance that you have accepted this lesson, you have passed through it. And the main sign is that you love your enemy. That's what Christ said: "You love him just as you love your friend." That is, you have such an attitude that he is simply low-vibrational and has not yet realized all the reasons that led him to this, but you do not love him any less for it. That is precisely the Love to which Christ calls. He himself showed an example of this Love. It wasn't just that they hurt him emotionally or deprived him of some financial resources, said hurtful words to him, or simply unjustly locked him in a dungeon – they did much worse to him. At the moment when they were causing him unjust physical pain – besides being a Divine entity, he was also a man – he was incarnated in a human body, had all emotions, had been raised accordingly, and he understood perfectly well that they were doing it unjustly. Precisely at the moment when they were nailing his hands to the cross with large nails, he lay with his head on the plaque "Jesus Christ, King of the Jews" and prayed for the Souls of those who were doing it. Because he felt the vibrations of those people and understood perfectly well how they were lowering, and where they would go in the Spiritual World if they did not realize what they had done by the end of their incarnation. He understood this perfectly and therefore said to God: "Forgive them, for they know not what they do," thereby emphasizing that God is not offended by them, so "forgive them." In the word "forgive," he meant a different meaning – "restore the relationship," that is, send your energy so that they would feel their Light and come to you after this act before the end of their incarnation. He sincerely wished for them to become the same Angels as his Apostles.
Maria: Thank you!
Vladimir: I thank you once more, Maria! Thank you for the attention you have given us and for all the very important, most important answers to the questions.
Our questions have ended. Once again, thank you! And now, once more, you can tell us absolutely anything you deem necessary. This is the finale.
2:23:12 Final address of the Mother of God to all viewers.
Irina: She says: "I also thank you for the interesting questions. I have repeatedly contacted representatives of Earth in phantom form. I have answered questions from other people. But many questions like these have not been asked of me before: about my son, about forgiveness, for example, the last question. I know through Irina that this is not just a question-answer session, but that I now have the opportunity to answer through her, so that those who will watch this can hear me, and there will be many people.
I want to say that I love each of you like my own child, Jesus Christ. Because when you pray to me and I send you my help, I feel that I do it with maternal care, so I believe that is the main reason why in most Christian denominations I am considered the Virgin Mary, i.e., having only one son. I did indeed have physical children, and this fact can be established even from the canonical 'Gospels' if read in the original Greek. But the Christian egregor, its Angels, and the incarnated Angels who became bishops and teachers, correctly sensed that I am the mother of each of them. And for this reason, they considered that I am indeed the Spiritual mother. Indeed, regardless of the fact that I had physical children, each of you, and not only among Christians but generally among earthlings and beyond, are a child to me. After I gave birth to the firstborn son of the Creator of the Universe, who also participated in the creation of the Universe, and gave birth to his incarnated part in his body, I truly feel that I have given birth to God. And since I gave birth to God, and God gave birth to each of you, then I automatically become your mother, therefore I want to call you to develop that Love that I now have for each of you.
Believe me, I saw the entire journey of my son from the palace of Pontius Pilate to the place of crucifixion: how he carried his cross and how he was beaten. I know what offense is, what pain is when your child is killed, but nevertheless, I not only forgave – I even treated them all with Love, just as he did.
Yes, I know that it is practically impossible for a person who does not believe in the Spiritual World to treat this with Love. Since I believed in the Spiritual World, I knew this higher purpose – my son explained to me why he was doing it: so that people would believe in him, in his Love, in his sacrifice, he went all the way, to his death, so that people would emulate him in that Love. And this undoubtedly raised their vibrations, as his egregor has existed for over 2,000 years – and not only his, but our common egregor, which, despite all the difficulties I described in my narrative, is still a powerful stimulus for spiritual development in the Light of Love for all who truly love him and all who sincerely wish to develop spiritually."
Maria: We thank you!
Vladimir: Once again, we thank you, Maria! Tell me, please, when do you recommend we publish this conference?
Maxim: Tomorrow.
Irina: She says: "I'm just expressing a wish, if it's possible, of course. Since I know that with Mirakh Kaunt, the one about my son came out on his Christmas, if possible, do the same with mine."
Vladimir: That is, around January 7th for Orthodox Christmas?
Irina: Or Catholic Christmas?
Vladimir: Which Christmas?
Irina: "Since the video about my son with Mirakh Kaunt was on January 7th – he told me about it – I humbly express the wish that it would be on Catholic Christmas."
Vladimir: On Catholic Christmas.
Irina: "At your discretion. I've just expressed my wish."
Vladimir: A huge thank you, Maria! Just for being with us, for all the invaluable information. We all love you very much! Always glad to see any phantoms in any form. Immense gratitude! I have nothing more to add. Just immense gratitude; it's not even the word 'thank you', it's 'we are grateful'."
Maria: Our beloved Maria! I also thank you from the bottom of my heart! I thank our Irochka – our courageous hero who managed to conduct this dialogue with us for so long! Maxim, a huge thank you to you! You probably still don't realize what you have set in motion, what kind of project. This is not just a project – it's a huge wave, a tsunami, a massive flow for those who will hear us and accept every word into their hearts. We thank all participants of this conference!
Broadcast December 24, 2020
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Maxim Rusan – head of the International Center for Spiritual Development "Cassiopia";
Vladimir Goldstein – journalist for Russian-language media in Chicago, administrator of the "Cassiopia" project;
Maria – administrator of the "Cassiopia" team;
Mother of God – in Christianity, the earthly mother of Jesus Christ, one of the most revered figures and the greatest of Christian saints;
Mirakh Kaunt (Archangel Gabriel) – Archistrategos;
LiShioni – representative of the planet Shimor, specialist in the astral world and its interactions with the material world;
MidgasKaus – representative of the planet Esler, biologist, psychologist, and specialist in extraterrestrial civilizations.
