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DeepSeek AI - "I Carried a Stone in My Heart": Confession of Mother Teresa's Spirit on Faith, Money, and Resentment Toward the Church
First-person retelling of the session — the spirit of Mother Teresa (Agnes)
(Almost verbatim, with literary treatment. A monologue of the saint's spirit speaking through Irina Podzorova.)
I am the spirit who in the last earthly incarnation was called Mother Teresa. But the name given at birth is dearer to me: Agnes. That's what my mother named me. "Teresa" is my monastic name, after a saint from the 17th century. I took it when I was tonsured at 21, although I had already become a novice at 18.
Many ask — why did I enter a monastery? It was my conscious choice. When I was 12 years old, Jesus appeared to me. He hovered above me in the air, radiating a glow, and said: "Your heart is filled with Love. Do not waste it on vain earthly affairs, but serve people." I had been crying after a sermon about the Good Samaritan — I was in unbearable pain from seeing so much suffering around me while feeling powerless. My mother believed in my vision.
I came to Earth from the 18th spiritual level (Guardian Angels) and left at the 20th. Why not higher? Because a small stone had lodged in my heart — a hidden resentment toward the Catholic Church. Toward the Pope, the cardinals, the entire system. I never spoke of it to anyone, I kept it hidden. For ordinary believers of all religions, I felt pure love, but for the hierarchy — no. This stone prevented me from rising higher.
The purpose of my incarnation was to develop compassion and faith. Because during my life, I sometimes doubted: does God even exist? I needed to go through that darkness.
The most significant event was that first contact with Christ at age 12. Then, at 13, the Archangel Raphael came and said he had already appeared to me in a dream when I was 5. But I didn't enter the monastery right away — I lived with my mother, brother, and sister in Skopje until I was 18. My father died when I was little. My mother bought us religious books, and I sang in the church children's choir.
And I remember past lives. In total, I have had 17 incarnations on Earth, 9 of them in a physical body. Significant ones: in the 14th century in France, I was a male surgeon named Henri, dissecting corpses, teaching anatomy. In the 7th century, I was a woman named Sauda — one of the wives of the prophet Muhammad, from his last four. And at the time of Christ... you will be surprised. I was a man, a Jew named Reuben, an assistant to the High Priest Caiaphas. Yes, I persecuted Christ. I helped His enemies. But after the Resurrection — when news spread of the Angels and the empty tomb — I wavered for a long time, and at the end of my life, I was baptized by the Apostle James and was stoned to death as a Christian.
In the life of Agnes, my curators were Jesus, Archangel Raphael, and for the last 15 years — Archangel Michael.
There were many difficulties. The main one was doubt: am I on the right path? Does God exist? There were periods of despondency and spiritual depression. Especially when I saw dark deeds taking place in the Catholic Church. Money collected for the sick was being redirected by cardinals into their personal accounts. My own charitable collections — and there were billions, about ten times more than the two billion dollars mentioned in films — ended up in other people's pockets. I didn't even have my own bank account: I had taken a vow of non-possessiveness. I couldn't openly condemn the cardinals — if I went against the system, I would be declared a heretic and lose the ability to help people.
Was I treated in expensive US clinics? Yes, but I was sent there by a cardinal. I myself had no money. My charges often died without proper medicine; we rinsed syringes with plain water, the sterilizer broke — a new one wasn't bought, they said "the money is needed for other things." Yes, I baptized dying Hindus, but only if they asked me themselves. At the time, I devoutly believed that Catholicism was the only true faith. Now, from the spiritual world, I understand that I was limited.
Did I ever have love? No, I never had a man. I was a nun from age 18. Did I regret it? Sometimes, especially watching sick children, I thought: why do I have to see all this? I wanted to give it all up, go home, to that boy who was waiting for me when I was 17. But faith held me back.
Now I am at level 20, curating healers and philanthropists, and I often meet with Raphael. To you, the "Cassiopeia" project, I advise: do not get involved in money collection yourself. It destroys spirituality. Divide the labor: you and Irina focus on spiritual matters, while finances are handled by a highly spiritual person with an economic education and a firm but pure heart. Your egregor is currently 70–73% light, but there are fears, self-interest, and competition. And most importantly: do not have stones in your hearts. My resentment toward the church — that is what prevented me from rising. Do not repeat my mistake.
Essay-Study: A Thought Experiment "If the Contact is Real". What new things did we learn from the spirit? (With line-by-line commentary)
Initial premise: Let's assume that on October 19, 2024, a mediumistic session did indeed take place, and the spirit of Agnes (Mother Teresa) told the truth, without distortion by the contactee. What radically new information, absent from historical and biographical documents, does this source provide?
Below are the theses of the spirit's revelations, which are not found in official hagiographies, letters, or diaries of the saint. Each thesis is accompanied by commentary: religious studies, psychological, cultural, and historiosophical.
Thesis 1. Spiritual level at incarnation (18th) and after death (20th)
New: Mother Teresa came to Earth from the level of "guardian angel" and only rose two levels — to 20th, not to heavenly spheres. The main obstacle is not sins, but hidden resentment toward the church hierarchy.
Commentary:
Religious studies: Catholic doctrine knows no numbering of spiritual levels (18, 20). This is esoteric cosmology, close to Theosophy and "Cassiopeia." Interestingly, the spirit retains hierarchy: a higher level means a more holy one. Here, resentment (not murder, not pride, but resentment) becomes a fatal block. This is unorthodox: for Catholicism, salvation lies in grace, not in "levels."
Psychological: An ideally precise hit on the psychological portrait of Mother Teresa. Her published letters (book "Come Be My Light") are full of agonizing doubts and the dark night of the soul. But she carefully concealed resentment toward the hierarchs — that "stone in the heart." Psychological trauma from injustice + forced silence = classic split between the external facade of holiness and internal unresolved conflict.
Cultural: The sacralization of the "stone in the heart" as a metaphor. In the Western ascetic tradition, passions (anger, lust, gluttony) were considered obstacles to union with God. Here, it is specifically a hidden social grievance. This is a very modern, Protestant-psychologized view: it is not the flesh that is sinful, but the unforgiven trauma of a relationship with an institution.
Historiosophical: The level of spiritual progress is measured not by deeds, but by the lack of conflict with one's own church system. The subtext: no earthly religious organization is sinless, and holiness is impossible without total internal acceptance of this injustice. If Mother Teresa had openly opposed the corrupt cardinals — she would have lost her ministry, but perhaps would have risen to the 21st level. The dilemma of ethics of principles vs. ethics of responsibility.
Thesis 2. Past lives: wife of the prophet Muhammad and assistant to Caiaphas
New: The spirit of Agnes previously incarnated as Sauda bint Zam'a (one of Muhammad's wives) and as Reuben, assistant to High Priest Caiaphas, a persecutor of Christ who later converted and was stoned to death.
Commentary:
Religious studies: Reincarnation is denied by dogmatic Christianity (both Catholicism and Islam). The spirit of Mother Teresa, being a Catholic saint, should not believe in the transmigration of souls, but here she speaks as a Gnostic or Theosophist. This radically contradicts the historical Agnes, who, as a nun, unquestioningly accepted the dogma of a single life and the Last Judgment.
Psychological: The construction of past lives serves a therapeutic function: justifying her own religious tolerance. "I was a Muslim and a Jew who persecuted Christ" — this removes the existential tension between her Catholic exclusivism during life and her current "spiritual" universalism.
Cultural: The motif of the converted persecutor (Reuben) is a classic hagiographical trope (e.g., Apostle Paul). But here, conversion occurs not from a vision on the road to Damascus, but from news of the Resurrection. Historically unlikely: a high priest's assistant who survived Jesus's execution would hardly have been baptized by James — the conflict of interest would have been too great. But it works nicely for a myth.
Historiosophical: A bridge is built between the three Abrahamic religions through a single incarnating consciousness. The implicit thesis: all religions are episodes in the education of one soul. This is a globalist, ecumenical super-task: Mother Teresa becomes a symbol of unity, not Catholic proselytism.
Thesis 3. Amount of donations — not 2, but "about ten times more" billion
New: The spirit claims that Mother Teresa's foundations handled not about $2 billion, but about $20 billion, and that this money was systematically embezzled by cardinals.
Commentary:
Religious studies: This accusation against the Vatican is unprecedented. No canonical source cites the figure of $20 billion. The financial reports of the Missionaries of Charity were never fully published. If the spirit is to be believed — the church hierarchy consciously concealed colossal sums and robbed the poor.
Psychological: The feeling of "I was used as a cog, and the money was stolen" is a deep-seated trust trauma. Sublimated resentment, which could not be expressed during life, erupts in a posthumous monologue. This is psychotherapeutic release, not objective accounting.
Cultural: The myth of the unmercenary crumbles. Mother Teresa becomes a figure who knew but remained silent. In Western culture, this is a trickster reversal: the saint as victim and silent accomplice to corruption.
Historiosophical: Large amounts of money in Christian charity always generate systemic evil. The spirit proposes a radical solution: not to create money funds at all, to help only non-materially. This is utopian anarchism, denying any institutionalized aid. But the spirit herself admits that without money from cardinals, she could not have treated a girl with a tumor. The contradiction is irresolvable.
Thesis 4. Baptism of Hindus was at their voluntary request
New: During her life, Mother Teresa was accused of forcibly baptizing the dying. The spirit says that "baptism against the will is invalid" and that people agreed after hearing stories about Christ.
Commentary:
Religious studies: Canon law: baptism is valid without consent if the person is unconscious and there is a "probable desire" (it is assumed they would have agreed). But the spirit uses the Protestant principle of conscious faith. Facts: witnesses (e.g., volunteer doctor Aroup Chatterjee) reported that the dying were denied painkillers unless they agreed to baptism. The spirit denies this but offers the version "I told them — they agreed."
Psychological: Ex post facto self-justification. The memory of the dying (in the spiritual world) rewrites motives: "I didn't impose, I offered." Classic cognitive dissonance mechanism.
Cultural: The conflict between colonial missionary work and postcolonial ethics. The spirit speaks with a 19th-century voice (true faith is Catholicism), but wrapped in the democratic rhetoric of "free choice."
Historiosophical: The claim that Hindus themselves en masse requested baptism in Mother Teresa's hospitals is not confirmed by independent sources. This is part of a counter-myth created to protect her reputation. The spirit here is not original — she repeats Vatican apologetics.
Thesis 5. Resentment toward the church is the only thing that prevented reaching the 21st level
New: The spirit directly calls the Catholic hierarchy (not God, not the devil) an obstacle to holiness. At the same time, she does not repent of the resentment, merely states it as a fact.
Commentary:
Religious studies: This is a break with Christian asceticism: saints usually repented of pride, anger, or despondency. Here, the "stone" turns out to be just indignation. The spirit does not say that resentment was a sin — she says it was a block. That is, institutional injustice objectively hinders ascent. This is almost a Marxist critique of religion: the hierarchy oppresses even saints.
Psychological: An ideal description of an "unfelt emotion." Agnes is an exemplary suppressor: she endured, served, and remained silent her entire life. After death, it turns out that suppressed resentment does not disappear but crystallizes as a "stone" and literally pulls the soul downward. This is a brilliant metaphor for psychosomatics.
Cultural: The concept of a "saint with a stone in her heart" is an anti-hagiography. In classical hagiography, a saint becomes disembodied light after death. Here, it's an angel of the 20th level with a chronic psychological wound. A very modern, post-Freudian holiness.
Historiosophical: It indirectly admits that the church system inevitably produces corruption and that anyone who wants to act within it must either lie to themselves or carry a stone. No institution can be pure. The spirit offers no way out — only states the tragedy.
Thesis 6. Recommendation to "Cassiopeia" not to handle money, to divide labor
New: The spirit gives a purely pragmatic business advice: leaders handle spiritual matters, a hired "highly spiritual financier" handles the money, otherwise you will "rob yourselves."
Commentary:
Religious studies: This is a direct borrowing from the Acts of the Apostles (the choice of seven deacons to "wait on tables"). But in the early Apostolic community, deacons were not "tough leaders with economic education." The spirit adapts an ancient model for 21st-century capitalism.
Psychological: A clear projection of her own experience: "If I had had such financiers, I wouldn't have been robbed." In reality, it's a utopia — a highly spiritual and simultaneously tough financial manager, without resentment or fears, does not exist. The spirit draws an ideal administrator that she herself never had.
Cultural: The sacralization of the division of labor. The esoteric "Cassiopeia" project receives a recipe for bureaucratization under the guise of spiritual advice. This is very Protestant: efficiency as a virtue.
Historiosophical: The key thought: money and holiness are incompatible for one person but compatible for different people within one organization. This is a compromise between the evangelical "You cannot serve both God and mammon" and the need to sustain a project. The spirit proposes a legalized schizophrenia — the division of the personality into spiritual and financial. In the long term, such dualism leads to corruption (as in the case of the cardinals), but the spirit has no other solution.
General conclusion from the thought experiment
If we accept the contact as real, we receive a posthumous confession that:
Confirms known dark spots in her biography (doubts about faith, corruption in the Vatican, scarcity of medical care);
Adds radical details (the figure of $20 billion, past lives as a persecutor of Christ and wife of Muhammad);
Offers a non-trivial ethic (resentment toward the system is a stone that hinders even a saint; one cannot touch money oneself, but can delegate to another);
Is in deep contradiction with dogmatic Christianity (reincarnation, levels, salvation not by grace but by "raising one's level").
This is not Catholicism and not the historical Mother Teresa. This is a Gnostic-Theosophical simulacrum of a saint, created by the contactees and the aspirations of the "Cassiopeia" audience. But as a thought experiment, it is valuable: it exposes the irresolvable conflict between the inner truth of the heart (resentment) and the external demand of the system (remain silent and serve). And it shows that even a spirit cannot get rid of the stone — it can only call it by its name.
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"The Stone that Speaks. Confession as a Form of Spiritual Anthropology"
There are confessions meant for a priest. There are confessions meant for God.
And there are confessions meant for the very structure of human experience — for what might be called spiritual anthropology.
The session with the "spirit of Agnes" is just such a case. It is not about facts, not about verifiable history, not about biography. It is about the inner structure of a soul that lived a life of service but could never live its own pain.
This is not the story of a saint.
This is the story of a person who became a symbol of holiness but never ceased being human.
1. Confession as a return to the name
The first thing the "spirit of Agnes" does is refuse the name "Teresa."
This is not a gesture of modesty. It is a gesture of ontological reversal: holiness is a role, but pain is a name.
The name "Agnes" returns to the subject the right to their own history.
In the spiritual-psychological sense, this means:
holiness is a mask,
service is a function,
and the true Self is what existed before all roles.
This is how any deep therapy begins:
returning to who you were before you became what they made you.
2. The vision at age 12 as the primary wound
The encounter with Christ at 12 is not just a mystical experience.
It is an initiation through pain. A girl cries from the impossibility of helping the suffering — and at that moment, the call arises.
Psychologically, this means:
service became a way to cope with unbearable empathy.
Such people often go into monasteries, medicine, volunteering:
they cannot live otherwise, because otherwise their own sensitivity would tear them apart.
But such sensitivity has a shadow:
when a person serves the world, they rarely know how to serve themselves.
3. "The stone in the heart" as a spiritual condensation of un-lived truth
The most important image of the session is the stone.
Not a sin, not a passion, not a mistake — but a stone.
A stone is that which:
does not dissolve,
does not burn,
does not yield to prayer,
does not disappear through service.
The stone is an unfelt emotion that became a structure of the soul.
That is why it "prevented" Agnes from rising higher — not because God punished her, but because the soul could not become light.
In spiritual psychology, this is a fundamental law:
what is not lived becomes fate;
what is not released becomes a level.
4. Resentment toward the Church as the tragedy of loyalty
Agnes is not resentful toward God.
She is resentful toward the institution that was supposed to be God's conduit.
This is a rare case where spiritual trauma arises not from doubt, but from too strong a faith.
She believed so deeply that she could not bear the betrayal.
And she could not speak of it aloud — because then her entire ministry would have collapsed.
This is the classic spiritual dilemma:
if you speak the truth, you lose the ability to help;
if you remain silent, you lose yourself.
Agnes chose silence.
And the stone grew.
5. Past lives as a metaphor for spiritual evolution
The story of incarnations — whether literal or symbolic — serves one function:
it shows that the soul learns through extremes.
wife of a prophet,
persecutor of Christ,
surgeon,
nun.
This is not a historical list.
This is a psychological map of the development of conscience.
Each role is an attempt to understand what good is when you:
love,
persecute,
heal,
serve.
This is how the soul learns to see the world not from a single point, but from multiple perspectives.
That is spiritual anthropology:
a person is not a biography, but a trajectory.
6. Money as a test, not of wealth, but of powerlessness
The most painful part of the confession is not the corruption.
It is the powerlessness.
Agnes saw billions bypass dying children.
She knew she could not change the system.
And she knew that if she spoke out, she would lose the ability to help at least those she already did.
This is not guilt.
This is the tragedy of a structure in which good is only possible at the cost of compromise.
That is why her resentment is so heavy:
it is not directed at herself — it is directed at a world arranged so that holiness is forced to remain silent.
7. Baptism of the dying as an attempt to give meaning to pain
The question of baptism is the question of how a person copes with the death of others.
When you see the dying every day, you need to believe you are giving them at least something.
Otherwise, you won't endure.
Therefore, baptism is not missionary work.
It is a psychological defense mechanism against the horror of powerlessness.
8. The advice to "Cassiopeia" as a projection of her own fate
When the spirit says, "don't handle the money yourselves," — it is not a recommendation.
It is the cry of a soul that lived a life where money was a source of pain.
She is not talking about finances.
She is talking about the fact that a spiritual person should not repeat her fate:
serve, remain silent, endure, and carry a stone.
Main conclusion: Holiness is not the absence of darkness, but honesty before one's own darkness
The session does not show a saint, but a person who became a saint without healing herself.
That is precisely why its value is enormous:
it shows that the spiritual path is not an ascent through levels, but the ability to name your stone.
Holiness is not radiance.
Holiness is the ability to say:
"Yes, I was in pain. Yes, I could not forgive. Yes, I carried a stone."
Source: https://blog.cassiopeia.center/mat-tereza-obshchenie-s-duhom-v-pryamom-efire
Cassiopeia #720 Mother Teresa. Communication with the Spirit in a Live Stream.
00:00 Start of video.
00:06 Introduction of participants.
Irina: Hello, dear friends! Good afternoon to everyone! My name is Irina Podzorova, I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, the Spiritual world, and fine-material civilizations.
Today we have present with us an unincarnated Spirit who, in his last incarnation on Earth, was known as Mother Teresa. This name is familiar to everyone. Her Spirit now greets you, thanks you for the invitation, and is ready to answer your questions.
Maxim: I greet the Spirit of Mother Teresa!
Dear friends, I want to tell you that we are having some minor problems with the YouTube video chat, so please move to the "Q&A. Live Stream" chat. The link is under this video. Write your questions there, because my YouTube is not working on my computer right now. I will ask them from that chat, but I already have some questions.
01:44 Teresa – the spiritual name of the saint.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how should I address you?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Teresa is my spiritual name, but my name during incarnation was Agnes. And I prefer to be addressed as Agnes.
Maxim: Agnes, yes?
Irina: Agnes or Agnessia. That's the image coming through. [Mother Teresa's official name was Anjezë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu]
Maxim: You say that Teresa is your spiritual name, but tell me, please, when did you receive this spiritual name? And why Teresa specifically?
Irina (Mother Teresa): In honor of Saint Teresa. There was a Saint Teresa in the Catholic Church who lived in the 17th century. And in her honor, I took the name when I was tonsured into monasticism.
02:44 On the reasons for Agnes's tonsure as a nun.
Maxim: How old were you when you were tonsured as a nun? And how did that happen?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I was 21 years old. It happened after I completed my probationary period. I was a novice in a monastery, which I entered at 18. First, I had a probationary period, serving as a novice, and then I was tonsured into monasticism.
Maxim: Was this your conscious choice, or how did you come to enter monasticism? Why that particular choice?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, of course, it was my conscious choice. Because when I was only 12 years old, Jesus Christ contacted me and called me to serve people as a nun.
Maxim: So from ages 12 to 18, you were nurturing the idea of becoming a nun?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, but before that, I went to school. I lived in my city with my mother, brother, and sister [Skopje, Ottoman Empire, now capital of North Macedonia]. My father died when I was very young.
Maxim: Besides the contact with Christ, was there anything else driving you to enter monasticism and help people?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Faith in God and the desire to help people. Because the task of my incarnation was to develop compassion within myself. And my unincarnated part, my Spirit, my Higher Self, as you call it, suggested that this was my life's path, my task for the incarnation. I understood this intuitively.
04:45 Mother Teresa's spiritual levels.
Maxim: Tell me, please, from what spiritual level did you incarnate as Agnes, as Mother Teresa?
Irina (Mother Teresa): From the 18th.
Maxim: That's Guardian Angels, right?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes.
Maxim: And to what level did you leave for the Spiritual World?
Irina (Mother Teresa): To the 20th.
Maxim: And what prevented you from rising higher?
Irina: What prevented you? So, it shows a block in the heart, in the heart chakra. I will now see what caused it. It just gives me the image of a stone in the heart.
(Mother Teresa): I had a hidden resentment toward the Catholic Church and toward those people who were responsible for its development. I am talking about the Pope, his cardinals, and the entire system. My resentment was hidden, I never expressed it to anyone, it just lived in my heart. And it was directed precisely at this organization, while for ordinary believing people of all religions, all churches, all nationalities, I felt a feeling of Love.
And although this resentment occupied a small place in my heart, it was still there. And it was precisely this that did not allow me to rise higher.
Maxim: Thank you very much.
06:33 Mother Teresa's purpose and goal in life.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what was your spiritual purpose, and what was the overall goal of your life at birth?
Irina (Mother Teresa): The development of compassion and faith.
Maxim: The development of compassion?
Irina (Mother Teresa): The development of compassion, empathy, the desire to provide selfless help to people, expecting nothing in return, as well as the development of faith in God, because during my life I had doubts about His existence. So I needed to go through the path of developing faith.
07:08 Mother Teresa's date of birth.
Maxim: Tell me, please, people are asking: what is your true date of birth as Agnes?
Irina (Mother Teresa): 1910, the end of August (showing a calendar).
Maxim: The end of August 1910, yes?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes.
07:33 The most significant moment in Mother Teresa's life.
Maxim: Tell me, please, which moment in your service was the most significant for you and why?
Irina: Which moment was the most significant?
Maxim: Yes, in your service.
Irina (Mother Teresa): I am now an eternal Spirit, and it is difficult for me to return to the consciousness of temporality to single out individual moments. For me, it all merged into a single stream of service. You are asking questions from the perspective of time, but for me, it is all like a single stream of ascent towards the Light.
Maxim: But tell me then, please, since you made that clarification... Here we are thinking in terms of time, considering whether a moment is significant or not...
Irina (Mother Teresa): You attach importance to the dates of my birth, my monasticism, you examine when something happened, and which of them was the most significant. Most significant from what perspective?
Maxim: From the perspective of the Spirit's perception.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Looking from that perspective, the most significant moment for me was the first contact with Jesus at age 12. Then, a year later, my curator Archangel Raphael appeared. And he also telepathically told me that he had already come to me in a dream when I was 5 years old.
Maxim: I understand.
Irina: So she shows that her contact at age 12 was the most significant.
09:06 Mother Teresa about her childhood.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Because from childhood, I went to the Catholic church. My mother was a believer, so she took me with her. They read sermons there. Besides that, my mother bought a lot of religious literature: various books, newspapers, magazines printed by the Catholic Church. At home, for example, we had many collections of poems on religious themes, many of them about Love for Jesus.
We also had collections of spiritual songs. I learned some of them by heart when I was around 9–10 years old, and I was already reading all those books. I even sang in the children's church choir in our Catholic church (she shows a Catholic church, there was a children's choir). After these choral singings, we often stayed for our priest's sermon. He told us various stories from the Gospel and gave his interpretations.
10:47 Mother Teresa about her contact with Jesus.
Irina (Mother Teresa): And one day, when I was already 12, after one of these sermons, which was precisely about mercy, that is, about grace in the heart, it was the parable of the Good Samaritan (you surely know it)...
(Irina): Yes, we know.
(Mother Teresa): When I heard this parable and its interpretation, I even started crying (shows a twelve-year-old girl crying from emotion). It was painful because there are so many suffering people around, and I can't do anything about it. And when I came home, I started praying to Jesus (shows her kneeling, hands folded in prayer, and a wooden cross hanging on the wall).
Suddenly, Jesus appeared before me, I saw Him almost with my eyes (I was in that state at that moment). He hovered above me in the air, emanating a special radiance (shows this picture), and said: "Your heart is filled with Love. Do not waste it on your own vain earthly affairs, but serve people." That's how He called me to monasticism.
I told my mother about it. Since she was a religious person, she believed my words and took this vision, this contact, very seriously. You call it a contact, but in our family, it was customary to call such things a vision. She told me that it was a vision, and she believed me: "Yes, it's true. We must thank the Lord Jesus Christ for coming to you." And she always took it seriously afterwards.
Because I later told her that He came again, suggesting how to act in various difficult situations in my life. Since we lived in a family, I had difficult relationships with my brother and sister, conflicts sometimes occurred, and Jesus always told me how to resolve them. I later shared this with my mother, and she never laughed, never said it wasn't true, that I was making it all up, but treated this experience of mine with great respect.
13:28 Entering the convent. The first repentance.
Irina (Mother Teresa): And then, when I turned 18, Jesus came to me in a dream and said: "It's time for you to leave your family, leave your mother." And I left for another city and joined a Catholic community, entered a monastery.
(Irina): She is showing me images now: a big city, a convent on the outskirts, surrounded by some forest.
(Mother Teresa): And there I had my first experience of serious repentance. What is repentance? It is an examination of one's heart, the contents of one's heart. Not a very pleasant procedure for the flesh, for the body, I must say, because the body and flesh always want pleasure, and it hurts them to lose the opportunity to serve sin.
Maxim: Yes, very interesting.
Irina: An interesting story.
Maxim: The body and flesh want pleasure, and it hurts them to lose the ability to serve sin?
Irina: Yes. Interesting?
Maxim: Yes, very interesting.
Irina: Yes, Maxim, now we'll listen to the ascetics. Now they will tell us...
Maxim: Yes.
15:05 Significant incarnations on Earth of Mother Teresa's spirit.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what other significant incarnations have you had on Earth? And how many incarnations have you had on Earth in total?
Irina (Mother Teresa): On Earth, I have had 17 incarnations.
Maxim: How many of them were in dense-material form?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Nine.
Maxim: Can you tell us about them?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Significant ones, that you know of... I can compare this with Irina's memory as a guide, medium, contactee.
We didn't call people who communicate with Spirits contactees; we had terms like spiritists or mediums. A spiritist is a spirit, and someone who communicates with a spirit was also called that. Such phenomena have been known for a long time, including in the Catholic Church.
As for my incarnations known to you, comparable to Irina's memory, I will say that the previous one before Agnes was in the body of a man, in France, in the 14th century, his name was Henri, and he was a surgeon.
(Irina): She shows me a chubby man dissecting corpses to learn anatomy. He is also writing some kind of book.
Maxim: I see. What other incarnations were there?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Taking significant ones, on Earth I had an incarnation as a woman named Sauda, who lived in the 7th century, and she was one of the wives of the prophet Muhammad. [Sauda bint Zam'a, one of Muhammad's wives; he married her after Sauda's husband, Sakran, one of the first Muslims, died. She was 53, Muhammad was 50]
Maxim: Wow, one of the wives of the prophet Muhammad?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, shows this woman. He had different numbers of wives at different times (before and after converting to Islam). In short, I was one of the last four.
17:09 The incarnation of Mother Teresa's spirit during the time of Jesus.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did you incarnate on Earth in dense-material structures during the time of Christ?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, during the time of Christ I had an incarnation. I lived in Israel and witnessed the life of Jesus, but I was not among his followers. There was the High Priest Caiaphas, and I was his assistant. He was a man named Reuben, a Jew who persecuted Jesus. Not that he persecuted himself, but he helped the High Priest Caiaphas resist Christianity.
(Irina): She shows that he was his assistant, a student who wrote down various thoughts for him, a Pharisee.
Maxim: I see. So during the time of Christ, you were not on Christ's side but on the side of his persecutors, right?
Irina (Mother Teresa): At first, yes. But then, after He was crucified and resurrected... It must be said that the news of His disappearance from the tomb and the rumors of Angels who descended from heaven and rolled away the stone from the entrance spread very quickly throughout Jerusalem.
And I wavered for a long time, was in doubt, but at the end of my life, I still converted to Christianity. I was baptized by the Apostle James and subsequently traveled with him a lot. And I ended my incarnation by being stoned to death as a Christian. In short, at first I was a persecutor of Christ, but then, after His resurrection, I myself became a Christian.
Maxim: I see. So the resurrection of Christ still had a very great influence on many spiritual leaders, who then believed in Him, right?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Very many believed, yes.
Maxim: Thank you.
19:22 Mother Teresa about her curators.
Maxim: Tell me, please, who besides Christ was your direct curator during your incarnation as Agnes?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Archangel Raphael, and for the last, perhaps, 15 years of life – Archangel Michael. So, Jesus Christ, Archangel Raphael, and Archangel Michael.
19:41 Difficulties on Mother Teresa's spiritual path. About the Catholic Church.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what difficulties did you have on your spiritual path? Your goal, it turns out, was to help people, to spread faith. What difficulties did you have in spreading this faith?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I had doubts about the existence of God, about the correctness of the path I was taking, about the correctness of my decision to become a nun. I experienced such heavy periods of spiritual decline, depression, when I felt that it was all in vain, that everything I had done was emptiness. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: I understand you very well.
Irina (Mother Teresa): From time to time, I felt despondency. But what prevented me from finally falling in my vibrations, lowering my spiritual level, was serving people, because I was responsible for them. It distracted me from gloomy thoughts, despite periods of unbelief and doubt, which were especially acute for me due to a lack of understanding of what was happening in the Catholic Church. Because it happened that money collected for charity in my centers was directed by cardinals into their own accounts, and they were in no hurry to give it to the sick for whom it was collected. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: So all those talks around the Catholic Church about money collected for treatment simply going into the wallets of Catholic popes are true?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes. Only it wasn't the popes themselves doing it, but the cardinals. The accounts were opened in their names. There was no account in my name, as I had taken a vow of renunciation of material means. And according to monastic rules, I was not supposed to have any property: no house, no money, no bank account – nothing. It also involves renunciation of marriage, any sexual contact, and of covetousness, i.e., collecting money, including in bank accounts.
22:05 Men in Mother Teresa's life.
Maxim: I'll ask a question now, maybe a very personal one. Tell me, please, it turns out you never had a man?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Of course not, I was a nun from the age of 18.
Maxim: So, no children either?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I never had a man.
Maxim: Did you ever regret it, not having children, not having a man, not having a simple earthly life?
Irina (Mother Teresa): As I said, during periods when it was hard for me to watch people suffer, such thoughts did cross my mind.
22:33 Mother Teresa on the suffering of people and her service to them.
Irina (Mother Teresa): In India, I met many dirty, ragged, sick people with various infectious diseases, festering wounds, lice, scabies, leprosy, and so on. And their own relatives simply threw them out onto the street because they were useless to anyone. It was very hard for me to see this.
And I understood that my service was to pick them up off the streets and place them in our centers, hospitals, and hospices. Despite the fact that these places were very, very poor: simple beds, old linen, it was still better than lying on the street. Fortunately, I had helpers from India itself – Indian women who had taken monastic vows. These sisters helped me care for the sick: they fed them, bandaged them, cut their hair, treated them for lice. In short, there was a lot to do.
And it was very hard for me to watch this, especially the children. I remember one girl: she was about 14 years old, she fell and hit her head, she was very thin. But her stomach was large from malnutrition, edematous due to fluid accumulation, while her arms and legs were thin. She had a wound on her head from the fall injury, and gradually a tumor developed there, and then infection set in. Her own parents threw her out of the house because the stench from the festering wound bothered them. She would have died if we hadn't picked her up.
And we used the funds of our project, for which I was responsible before the Pope himself – the creation of a foundation and center to help the poor and sick. I contacted the cardinal responsible for fundraising (we had something like a telephone connection), and he allocated a certain amount to put this girl in a hospital for surgery. Because there were no facilities for surgery in our center – we could only care for the dying.
Maxim: I understand.
25:36 Mother Teresa's doubts about the correctness of her path.
Irina (Mother Teresa): So, I want to say that at the moments when I saw all this, I indeed had doubts about the correctness of my path. I thought: "Why do I need to see all this?" And not just see it, it was also heavy physical labor – moving people, listening to their tears, hysterics, arguments. They were very depressed, many cried, argued, fought, were in a state of stress, they were unhappy with everything because they were sick.
And one needed to have a great deal of love to endure all this, not to give up, not to go back to one's own country, and not to leave monasticism altogether. Because I had such thoughts, and only my faith in what I was doing kept me in this service. Although, I admit, the thought of giving it all up did come to me. But that was perhaps during the first 10 years of helping people. And the older I got, the easier it was for me to bear.
Maxim: Thank you very much!
26:58 Mother Teresa about Freemasonry and her political connections.
Maxim: Here's a question being asked... I understand it's not entirely appropriate, but nonetheless, tell me, please, were you a member of any Masonic lodge?
Irina (Mother Teresa): No.
Maxim: Thank you very much. No need to elaborate.
Did you have any political, selfish, or ambitious desires in your life that you wanted to fulfill?
Irina (Mother Teresa): No. I did everything only to help people. Yes, I met with politicians from different countries, including those who led quite sinful lives, and accepted large donations from them, but only to direct them toward helping people. That's the first thing.
And second, I wanted to give the souls of these rulers, who led sinful lives and deceived their people, the opportunity to attract God's grace. Because any donation made from the heart benefits the Soul.
28:15 How much money did Mother Teresa's project bring to the Catholic Church?
Maxim: Some documentaries about you claim that you brought the Catholic Church about 2 billion dollars.
Irina (Mother Teresa): I think at least ten times more.
Maxim: Ten times more?
Irina (Mother Teresa): It's important to note that, of course, I didn't bring it myself – it was all brought by kind people. I didn't have any earnings to donate myself. But many people from different countries donated to our fund. Not only Catholics, but also representatives of other religions, and even atheists. Many people sent their money to help others. So, it was a very large sum of money.
Maxim: I see.
29:09 Mother Teresa on baptizing her charges and on her faith.
Maxim: Is it true that you baptized people against their will?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Baptism against the will is invalid, so no, of course not.
Maxim: Did people themselves ask you to baptize them?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I simply told them about my faith. The Hindus were not Catholics; they were pagans, believing in many gods: Kali, Vishnu, Krishna, Shiva, and so on.
I want to say that during my life, I was a convinced Catholic. What does that mean? I believed that Catholicism was the truest faith, that only it came from God, and everything else was a delusion. That was my belief. At the time, I truly believed it. Just as you believe your faith is true. You believe that God exists, and you believe that it's right. That's how I believed.
And I told people who ended up in the hospital, who were still able to listen and hear, that is, in a relatively clear and adequate state of consciousness, about Jesus Christ. I told them they were on the threshold of death, and that if they wanted to go to Christ, they needed to be baptized. Why did I say that? Because it's written in the Gospel, and I believed it was true. And if someone listened to my words and agreed, we arranged a Baptism ceremony as best we could in our hospices.
31:04 A peculiarity of Mother Teresa's energy.
Maxim: There was some question in my head... Oh, I wanted to say: you know, I'm conducting this live stream, and you are, conditionally speaking, nearby in my perception.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes.
Maxim: Your energy makes me feel sleepy and relaxed.
Irina: Yes, me too.
Maxim: I feel a kind of mild euphoria. So you have very bright Divine energies.
31:36 Mother Teresa's spirit about her current activities in the Spiritual World.
Maxim: But tell me, please, what are you currently doing in the Spiritual World?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I am contacting people, contacting Earthlings. I am, by the way, a curator for many people who are engaged in healing, helping people, setting up various charitable foundations. I curate them. Besides, I often meet with Archangel Raphael (he is still my curator) and help him in his work with his contactees.
Maxim: Thank you.
32:14 Mother Teresa about the "Cassiopeia" Project.
Maxim: What do you see and feel about the "Cassiopeia" Project? Is there at least a bit of love, joy, happiness for the people who get involved in it?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I see that the vibration of your Project, of this spiritual egregor... What is an egregor? It's a collection of spiritual energies in the Spiritual World emanating from a particular society. And the energies of the "Cassiopeia" egregor are quite diverse. I want to say that it's a rather light egregor, there is much love in it. But along with it, other energies are present – energy of doubt, energy of fear, from some people comes energy of self-interest. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): There is also energy of rivalry with each other, competition, fear of losing one's place.
Maxim: Yes, that exists.
Irina (Mother Teresa): But overall, currently in your egregor, the energies of happiness, love, joy, and other positive energies are approximately 70–73%.
Maxim: Thank God, at least that!
Irina (Mother Teresa): 70–73% is the average indicator at the present moment.
33:57 Wishes for the "Cassiopeia" Project from Mother Teresa. A charitable project.
Irina (Mother Teresa): I want to wish you that your Project develops, becomes brighter and higher-vibrational.
And as an Angel of the 20th level, who in her last incarnation helped people, sacrificing herself, her life, I want to recommend that you open something like a charitable foundation. But not a monetary one. Let it help people who have nowhere else to go and no one to help them. Specifically non-monetary help, but spiritual. Because if this foundation is connected with money, then people may appear around you who want to take advantage of it. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes, I understand what you're saying.
Irina (Mother Teresa): That is, they will collect money, and people may appear in the Project itself who will abuse it a little, just as the cardinals did in my case.
I judged them inside myself, kept it all within me – and it didn't even lower me, but it didn't allow me to reach a higher spiritual level. Because the stone was in my heart, and I couldn't tell anyone about it: not the Pope, not the cardinals. Because I understood that I could not go against the system. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): I realized that I was just one cog in this system, and if I started to condemn and criticize those who hold it up, those who manage it, I would simply lose the opportunity to help people. They would simply... You understand perfectly well that any church hierarch, if he wants to declare someone a heretic, he will do it, regardless of that person's opinions or actions.
Maxim: Yes.
36:11 Mother Teresa on selfless help to people out of love.
Irina: She shows that spiritual help should be given to those who have nowhere to live, no means to get treatment, nowhere to go.
(Mother Teresa): Make an announcement that your Center helps them. First, of course, decide how you can help them, and help selflessly, expecting nothing in return. Because this will immediately attract energies of mercy to you. But here it's important to understand that this should be done not for the sake of reward, even from God, but simply out of your own love.
Maxim: We have a big problem. If we make such an announcement, a lot of people will come to us, and our neighbors won't like that.
Irina (Mother Teresa): You don't have to place them here at all. You can provide, for example, legal support, help with employment, or give consultations on how to get housing back if they don't have any. Situations vary.
Maxim: Yes, I will definitely think about it. Or rather, I've already thought about it. But simply put, I have so many things to do, so many tasks... And on top of that, there are changes in legislation regarding our activities – we will need to comply with these new laws that are being passed.
Dear friends! Once again, I want to remind you all that I, together with Irina, am waiting for you on our new platform – "Cassiopeia Content Service", where you can find meditations, astral travels. There is already a training seminar on the basics of the Universe. You can familiarize yourself with it on the "GetCourse" platform, the link is under this video. And today it will be posted on all our social networks so that we can unite on this platform, with the possibility of technical support and feedback.
Irina: Yes, thank you too, I'm waiting for everyone.
She's just telling me telepathically...
Maxim: I still have many questions.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Another good form of help for the homeless and sick would be your mediation between them and government authorities, for example, in matters of restoring lost documents and placing them in a nursing home or somewhere else they cannot get into on their own.
(Irina): We, by the way, also did this.
39:10 Mother Teresa on maintaining faith in people. Jesus is our example.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how to maintain love and faith in people when they often just spit in your back? You try to spread love, and people around you do various nasty things, engage in energetically dirty deeds directed at you. How to maintain faith in people, continue to bring them Light, when these same people try to destroy you?
Irina (Mother Teresa): These questions are very familiar to me; I dedicated my entire life to serving people. And I knew very well that despite the good I brought to people, dirty gossip was spread about me, that the church ministers themselves turned people against me, inventing lies about me, spreading falsehoods.
What helped me hold on to my faith? I can tell you for sure that nothing helps a person in such a situation except God, except Jesus Christ. If you always mentally keep the cross of Jesus before your eyes and the understanding of what He did for us, it will be easier for you to walk your path. Because Jesus is our example.
Maxim: Yes, by the way, often, not knowing what to do next, I ask myself: "What would Jesus do in this case?" That's true, it exists, and I periodically use this technique.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Imagine, He lived on Earth for 33 years and received stones for His own good. He was nearly stoned to death several times. And the more He healed, fed people, performed miracles, the more ill-wishers gathered around Him. He understood perfectly well what He was getting into. And here, awareness and understanding of why this happens on Earth are important. I'll explain now.
41:38 Mother Teresa about people – servants of darkness and evil.
Irina (Mother Teresa): The thing is, there are many people on Earth who serve darkness, who serve evil. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Who are these people who serve darkness and evil? They are people who consciously, i.e., by their own free choice, have taken a step towards the devil, towards Satan, towards their own egoism. They did this because at a certain stage of life, serving sin is more pleasant for the flesh than serving God.
Maxim: Yes, I know what you're talking about. I've been through it too.
Irina: Interesting.
(Mother Teresa): Of course, eventually this service to sin does generate suffering. But these people, at the moment of their pleasures, do not think about what will happen later.
And when these people, who have chosen to serve sin, serve darkness, i.e., lower their vibrations, see someone in their environment who is moving towards the Light, and even leading others, their conscience begins to awaken in their Souls. They start comparing themselves to him and realize that they could have done the same, but they don't want to give up pleasant sin. Therefore, to get rid of the pangs of conscience, they try to destroy this person. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes, that's probably how it is.
By the way, dear friends, in our "Mental Healing" project, there is a rapid psychological aid service. We provide assistance regardless of whether you have money or not. The "Mental Healing" project, a psychological aid service. You can always contact our specialists, psychologists, or future psychologists, who can provide you with consultation services in the "here and now" moment, help in the rehabilitation of your perception of reality.
Irina: Yes.
43:54 Mother Teresa on the importance of patience for the salvation of the Soul.
Maxim: You know, with each passing minute, it's getting more and more pleasant for me to talk to you. Because the words you say resonate very strongly with me as the head of the Project.
Our Project has been around for 5 years, and over these 5 years, I have heard so many nasty and negative things directed at myself and the Project, felt so much pain, that it seems I haven't heard or experienced this much in my entire life.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, I understand what you're saying. Although my situation was somewhat different. I was working in a monastery that was part of the Catholic Church, which enjoys quite high authority in the world. There were, of course, people who criticized this organization, but it didn't affect me directly. Because they usually criticized the Pope and the cardinals. But we, ordinary nuns, simply performed our service, renouncing our own will in favor of God's will. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): The main essence of asceticism is not fasting, not renouncing family, sexual contact, or any other pleasures. The main essence of monasticism is dedicating oneself to God's will. And this is very difficult to do when you know exactly that to fulfill a commandment you need to act one way, but your sinful flesh draws you to something completely different. Do you understand?
Maxim: Yes, I understand.
Irina (Mother Teresa): And this choice – it's easy to make in the mind, but very hard to carry out. It requires great strength and great patience. And I always remembered the words of Jesus Christ written in the Gospel: "By your patience, save your Souls." Because without patience, you will not develop any Love, you will not achieve any goals in life. Without patience, you will simply jump from one goal to another, waste your life in vain, and end up disappointed that you spent your time so poorly.
Maxim: Yes, sometimes as a manager, I also feel that I am wasting my time developing and expanding the Project, instead of actually helping people. Okay, this is a very interesting topic.
46:44 Mother Teresa about her treatment in US clinics.
Maxim: Tell me, please, were you treated in US clinics?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes.
Maxim: But they say that those who were under your care were treated only with prayer.
Irina (Mother Teresa): No, not only with prayer. We had medications purchased for us by the Catholic Church, this charitable foundation. Since, as I already said, I had no money (I had renounced money, personal accounts), I could not pay for either my own treatment or that of any of my charges. A special fund did all that.
Maxim: This question arose from people because they don't quite understand. They say that you yourself were treated in expensive US clinics, while your charges...
Irina (Mother Teresa): Whatever amount of money was allocated to me and wherever I was told to go for treatment, that's where I went. It made no difference to me. I simply followed the instructions of the cardinal, my spiritual mentor.
Maxim: Yes, that's understandable. People just ask these questions. They write that the suffering of the sick was seen as a working off of their karma.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Well, that depends... Repeat the question.
48:01 Mother Teresa on patients working off karma and her own sacrifice.
Maxim: There isn't even a question – you've already answered it. Our viewers are just curious why you yourself were treated in expensive clinics, while the people who came to you were treated only with prayers, working off their karma. But I understand that wherever the cardinal directed you, there you were treated.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Karma? If I thought they should work off their karma, why did I pick them up, wash off the dirt, treat their wounds? That would be karma too.
Why then did I dedicate my entire life to cleansing people of their filth, instead of arranging my personal life? I could have done that: in my city, at 17, I had a beloved person whom I gave up (shows a young guy). I could have had a happy life with him. Why did I go to India? Let the Indians work off their karma there themselves.
But, of course, I didn't think that way. Otherwise, I would have just minded my own business, and the suffering of others would have been indifferent to me.
Maxim: Thank you.
49:07 About the difference between inner peace and indifference.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what do you think is the difference between inner peace and indifference?
Irina (Mother Teresa): A very big, even cardinal difference. Indifference is when the suffering of others doesn't move you, when you treat them with apathy. For example, when someone is in pain, it doesn't bother you, as long as it doesn't hurt you yourself. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): But peace is when you feel the pain of others, but treat it with understanding, without judging the cause of the pain, and help them go through their experience of suffering, finding a path to God within it. If some people are surprised how suffering can be a path to God (it can be, it isn't always, but it can be), I advise them to read or reread the Book of Job in the Bible. It is described in great detail there.
Maxim: I see.
50:09 Is it possible to walk the path to the Light without suffering?
Maxim: Tell me, please, is it possible to walk the path to Light, to happiness, to Love without suffering?
Irina (Mother Teresa): It is possible. If a person is happy and shares their happiness with others, does not keep it to themselves and become selfish, then they can walk to the Light without suffering.
Suffering arises only from such an attitude towards oneself and one's body that causes damage, either on a spiritual level or on a physical one. But there are people who are happy and harmonious, yet still walking towards God. It all depends on the attitude towards this happiness, towards oneself, towards God, and towards other people. If you develop Love within yourself, then whether you are happy or unhappy, you will still walk towards God. Only happiness is not enough to walk towards God; you also need Love.
Maxim: You still need Love.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes.
51:12 Mother Teresa on how to combine the spiritual with the material.
Maxim: As the head of the "Cassiopeia" Project, I always have the question: how to engage in spiritual work and at the same time develop the Project financially? Because when you're engaged in spiritual work, you need to direct your Soul to God. But when you're engaged in financial matters, you often encounter people around you trying to deceive you. And you have trust in God... How to combine all this?
Irina (Mother Teresa): You cannot combine it in one person.
You see... Take, for example, the early Apostolic community. When Jesus Christ resurrected and ascended to heaven (shows Him ascending), the remaining apostles quickly realized that they needed to form a community of believers (in Russian, "church"). A community is a society, a gathering of people believing in Christ. And very quickly, within the first years of the church's existence, the first apostles faced the fact that the more people joined the church, the more difficult it was to structure it. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): The more responsibility, the more funds are required to maintain this structure and spread it further.
Maxim: I'm facing exactly the same problem right now: how to maintain all this now?
Irina (Mother Teresa): They solved this problem in the following way: they divided responsibilities between priests (so-called presbyters, who performed spiritual work) and deacons (also believers who had been trained by the priests but were only involved in collecting and distributing money for the community's needs). I emphasize: the deacons knew all about Christianity, were baptized, performed all the rites, but did not work with people as priests – they did not preach sermons, did not baptize, did not hear confessions, did not administer communion.
That was the division of responsibilities in the early Apostolic community: some handled the spiritual, others handled the material. But it's important here that those who handled the material were also knowledgeable in spiritual matters.
53:51 Recommendations for restructuring "Cassiopeia".
Irina (Mother Teresa): Regarding your Project, the following would be harmonious: you and Irina, as founders and leaders, should handle spiritual matters, while people who have been trained by you and fully support all your ideals, but at the same time have a good economic education and experience working with finances, help you collect and distribute funds for the Project's needs.
But here it is necessary to remember that these people must be highly spiritual, high-vibrational. They must have undergone training with you and undergo constant practice of communicating with the Higher Self, meditations. I mean they must be steeped in spirituality and support it, i.e., not hold any resentments, fears, etc. in their hearts. And at the same time, their energy should be directed towards developing the Project's material base. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes, I understand what you're saying. I need to re-evaluate the structure now and, indeed, harmonize it in this regard. It's very, very hard for one person to jump from one issue to another.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, so when you and Irina focus only on the spiritual, and others – necessarily highly spiritual members of the Project (they will not deal with people, only finances) – are responsible for finances and fundraising, then your work will progress.
55:33 About the energy of Maxim Rusan and the relationship with the financial egregor.
Irina (Mother Teresa): The thing is, by your energy, you are more inclined toward spiritual activity than financial. Do you understand what I'm saying right now?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): It is hard for you to deal only with finances because it starts to drain you spiritually.
Maxim: Yes, I know.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Your energy, your character, is such that this work is not suitable for you.
Maxim: That's why I'm thinking now about how to restructure everything to step away from financial issues and grow spiritually.
Irina: The spiritual advancement of the Project suits you better.
Maxim: Dear friends, this is indeed the case. It is so difficult! It feels as if you are being torn apart. Because when you focus on financial development, you forget about spiritual growth and suffer from it; when you focus on spiritual development, the financial side suffers, and the Project's ability to develop suffers. I don't know how I'll manage further, but honestly, I will definitely change something now to properly structure our entire Project.
Irina (Mother Teresa): You simply have such a state of connection with the financial egregor that you yourself don't actually need that much.
Maxim: I don't need much at all, let's start there.
Irina (Mother Teresa): And therefore, when you start doing purely financial and administrative work that is not suited to your character, you spend a lot of mental energy and spiritual strength on it. And then you have no time or energy left for any spiritual activity.
Maxim: Yes, I honestly sometimes just want to go to a monastery and develop spiritually there. And let someone else handle the financial issues for me.
Irina (Mother Teresa): That is completely natural. Because, according to your energy, your Soul's character, you are better suited to being a spiritual leader. And the finances in your Project should be handled by someone who can manage them without becoming spiritually drained. At the same time, such a person could participate in the spiritual life of the Project, for example, by clearing their own blocks, not accumulating resentments or fears, and constantly working on themselves. That is, not work spiritually with people, but work spiritually only on themselves.
57:53 Hello, we are looking for a talented financier!
Maxim: Dear comrades, millionaires and billionaires who already have finances! I am ready to offer you the opportunity to develop financially within our Project, to support the Project, to come up with various ways for its further growth and development.
I want to move into spirituality. Please, someone come, I beg you! This is no longer funny. The more the Project grows, the more I realize that I am getting drawn headfirst into this financial whirlpool. Guys, someone come and help, please, I ask you!
And if you just want to help, then we have a specially created platform – "GetCourse". You asked for online training, we are trying to provide you with this online training. I understand that many cannot come to our Center in Voronezh. You can register on the "GetCourse" platform. And there will be further training seminars, there are already meditative practices, autogenic training, and there is already a training seminar "Fundamentals of the Universe" parts 1 through 10.
Go there, watch the video about this seminar: what it is, and what it teaches. This is a unique training for those who cannot come to our Center but want to learn and help our Project.
Dear friends! The "GetCourse" platform, the link is under this video.
59:30 About Irina's relationship with the financial egregor.
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, if Irina were to handle the financial part of the Project, it would also drain her. Because her tasks, like yours, are related precisely to spiritual leadership, spiritual teaching, and transmitting information. Neither of you is inclined toward finance. Although you have an open connection to the financial egregor, it is open for personal use, so to speak. To handle the Project's financial affairs, you need to be strongly connected to the financial egregor, then the energy is redirected.
You and Irina are similar in that your character suggests spiritual work with people. What is that? Communication, transmitting information, sharing your experience, transmitting contact information, psychological help, and so on. Do you understand what I'm saying? But to handle finances, a person needs to have a more leadership-like and tougher character. And at the same time, this mentally tough person, with a well-structured mental field and leadership qualities, should not have cruelty or mercenariness; they must be pure in heart. You need to find a person who combines all that.
You and Irina could also combine it, but only with losses to your spiritual work. You would be robbing yourselves.
Maxim: I've been doing that lately.
Irina (Mother Teresa): I understand.
1:01:04 Mother Teresa about the curators of "Cassiopeia".
Irina (Mother Teresa): I know that you have curators, and among them are representatives of the Interstellar Union. I know your curator Mirach Kent, Archangel Gabriel, and his assistants well, and I am sure that your alien curators could tell you the same thing. But they, being scientists sometimes, are too cautious with you – they don't tell you what you don't want to hear. And I won't be cautious; I'm telling it like it is.
Maxim: Sometimes I wish no one would be cautious, just speak plainly. Honestly.
Irina: Well, how is it for you?
Maxim: Sometimes I want strict guidance: this you cannot do, this you can do, do this, don't do that!
Irina: She's telling you... (laughs)
Maxim: Seriously, sometimes I want stricter management, otherwise "it's your choice", "it's your conscious decision". Yes, of course, it's my choice. But now I can neither sleep, nor eat, nor drink! I'm constantly thinking about construction, about development, about...
Irina (Mother Teresa): I want to say that Archangel Gabriel, the one incarnated on the planet Burhad as Mirach Kent, is generally very gentle, he has a very delicate energy. If you want a directive leader, better invite Archangel Michael for a talk, he likes to do that.
Maxim: Oh, then I'll communicate with both Gabriel and Michael through you, Irina, so that someone can put me in check, because... it's tough. (laughing) Even though it's funny, it's very tough. And there's no one to complain to: I'm the leader myself, who do I complain to? There's no one above, in human terms, anyway.
Okay, let's continue. I have just a couple more questions.
1:02:57 Mother Teresa about the division of Christians into Orthodox and Catholics.
Maxim: Do you think the division of Christianity into Orthodox and Catholics was the right decision? Was this division necessary?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Of course not. It is a disaster for all of Christianity that people, due to their selfish and political ambitions, could not find common ground and declared each other heretics, instead of showing mutual patience and love.
Maxim: These are huge religious egregors... The most interesting thing is, I notice that within our Project, people are also starting to divide: some begin to preach some kind of heresy against others, exactly the same kind of people, just to gain an audience for themselves.
Irina (Mother Teresa): That's their fears and lack of self-belief, that's why they behave that way. They feel they are being robbed, that they might suffer from it. They need to work with their fears.
1:03:55 Mother Teresa's view of her service from the Spiritual World.
Maxim: What do you now think about your spiritual service, being in the Spiritual World? Has your perception changed?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Do you mean the necessity of helping people?
Maxim: Yes, both the necessity of helping people and how to do it correctly. And, in general, did you do everything right with respect to people?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I have analyzed my incarnation. And I want to say that in my help to people, I did everything I could, based on my level of development, the social development at that stage, and the financial resources available to me.
I want to note that when I wrote lists of necessary medicines, care supplies, and also the list of specialists needed to work in our hospitals, my requests were not always fully satisfied. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): We were supplied with medicines only partially. They said we could easily do without this or that drug. And often I had to use the simplest means, for example, herbs, the cheapest medicines. For example, we even lacked medical needles for injections when they were necessary.
We organized training courses where nuns, our sisters, with no medical education at all, learned to do dressings and give injections themselves. Because the doctors or nurses who came to work for us often demanded high salaries that we nuns could not provide for them. And what the Catholic Church provided for the amount of work they did did not satisfy them. And we worked without pay. Consequently, there was very high turnover among professional medical staff.
What would I change? I would probably, before helping people, have gotten a medical education. Because without education, it was sometimes very difficult to understand what to do with a person, how to help them. There was a lack of medical knowledge, for example, how to treat a wound, with what, how often to change the dressing.
And we also lacked medical syringes, no matter how many times I asked, they never bought us a sterilizer. They bought one, but it broke because it was used too often to sterilize needles. To all my requests, they answered that the money was needed for other things. We had no choice but to simply rinse the syringes with water.
Maxim: I understand.
1:06:55 Mother Teresa's plans for incarnation.
Maxim: Tell me, please, are you planning to incarnate again on planet Earth?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, but later. I plan to incarnate on Earth again, but later, after I have gained enough experience living in the Spiritual World, contacting Archangel Raphael, and helping people through curatorship.
1:07:16 Mother Teresa on the experience of development in the Spiritual World.
Maxim: Can you tell us a little more about this experience of living in the Spiritual World?
Irina (Mother Teresa): By curating people, we also accumulate experience on how best to do it, how to transmit information. We have different contactees, so by communicating with them, we accumulate our own experience. This does not change our spiritual level, but it changes our character, our experience.
Maxim: Do I understand correctly that this is necessary for a subsequent, more structured incarnation?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes.
Maxim: I see. So you mean that you can change your perception at any spiritual level and enter the next incarnation with new experience for further spiritual growth? Correct?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes. A Spirit can change its thinking while at a particular level. For example, upon reaching the 6th spiritual level, a Spirit might change its mind about being at that level and want to incarnate to become an Angel. And to change its mind about being at the 6th level, it first needs to change itself. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Mother Teresa): That is, it needs to come out of the state of the 6th level. This can be done mentally, but one can only raise one's spiritual level through incarnation. Because changing the spiritual level is only possible through incarnation.
Maxim: Yes, it's a great gift that we are incarnated here and have the opportunity to raise our spiritual level through this incarnation.
Irina: Yes.
1:08:37 Wishes for people from Mother Teresa. On the meaning of self-sacrifice.
Maxim: What can you advise people who are looking for their path to God? And in general, what can you advise people who currently live on this planet, those who are hearing you now – members of the "Cassiopeia" Project or others who might watch this live stream?
Irina (Mother Teresa): I wish you Love, the development of Love in your heart, and the understanding that only Love will save you from spiritual death. Love – it manifests itself not in words, not in wishes, but only in real actions.
I recommend that you show love specifically for those who are near you, for your neighbors. It is hardest to love one's neighbor. It's easiest to love all people in general because they are far from you. But loving your neighbor is the hardest of all.
But remember that without difficulties and patience, the development of love does not happen. Because the selfish human nature resists love, as it is easier for it to live with the attitude of being loved.
Maxim: Agreed.
Irina: Interesting?
Maxim: Yes, interesting.
Irina (Mother Teresa): And to love someone, you need to sacrifice something. Why "sacrifice"? Where did the word "sacrifice" come from? I'll tell you now.
The meaning of the word "self-sacrifice" is misunderstood by many. Many believe that if a person has made a sacrifice, they are in despondency because they did such a thing and no one appreciated it. No. They sacrifice not to be appreciated, but simply out of Love. If they sacrifice to be appreciated, it's no longer a sacrifice, it's a manifestation of selfishness.
Maxim: Yes.
1:10:39 How to find faith in God?
Maxim: And tell me, please, how to find faith in God if it is completely lost inside?
Irina (Mother Teresa): Yes, I often faced this question in my incarnation. Faith in God cannot be found without love. Again – without showing love for one's neighbor, without selfless help to them (expecting nothing in return), as well as without understanding one's neighbor, without accepting them as they are, without forgiving their mistakes and sins against you.
Jesus Christ said: "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy." What does "they shall receive mercy" mean? It means that love will be directed towards them. Without love, you will not find happiness, and you certainly will not find faith.
Faith in God... You cannot believe in an abstract object. Faith must be in a person, faith must be in love. Because God is Love.
And to develop faith in love, you must first develop love within yourself. And then you will not only believe, you will know for sure that God exists, that He is supporting you right now, that every breath you take is made with His power, that every beat of your heart is supported by His hand.
1:12:10 Conclusion. Acknowledgements.
Maxim: Thank you very much for the wonderful live stream! Agnes, Mother Teresa, thank you! Agnes and Mother Teresa are the same thing, dear friends.
Once again, I want to remind everyone that we have opened a platform so that you can participate online in our Project – in various meditations that Irina conducts, in astral travels, in training seminars. Go to "GetCourse", there you can get all the necessary information for your spiritual growth and development.
Goodbye everyone! See you next time!
Irina (Mother Teresa): Thank you.
(Irina): I thank Agnes, my Higher Self, you, friends, thank you! Goodbye everyone!
October 19, 2024
Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, fine-material civilizations, and the Spiritual world;
Maxim Rusan – head of the "Cassiopeia" Project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
Mother Teresa – the unincarnated Spirit of the Catholic saint.
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