Odin addresses the ravens Huginn and Muninn.
An 18th-century illustration from an Icelandic manuscript, Danish Royal Library
DeepSeek AI - Why Aliens Became Gods: Revelations of Atinar-Odin on Runes, Wars, and the Fate of Humanity
Where: Live broadcast from the studio of the "Cassiopeia" project (YouTube platform).
Part 1. First-person retelling of the session (Spirit of Atinar-Odin)
"I greet you. My name, which I bore on my home planet Burkhad, is Atinar. But here, on Earth, you know me as Odin.
I arrived on your planet 7800 years ago with my two brothers. Their names were Pertoms and Sefestis. Here, people called them Perun and Zeus. We were on Earth for 4000 years. This was after the great war that occurred 12,000 years ago. We managed bases, and my base, which you called Asgard, was located in the north of Germany, on the coast of the North Sea.
The spiritual level from which I incarnated was the 12th. After leaving my physical body and returning to Burkhad, I lived another 720 years, and my total lifespan in that incarnation was about 11,000 years. After that, I transitioned to the 23rd level and dissolved into my Higher Self. Now I speak to you only as a separated phantom, with the consent of my Spirit, which is currently incarnated on Earth in the body of a woman in Russia.
My wife, whom you called Frigg, was Proiglaia. We had three children, and I did not have relations with earthly women.
You ask about runes. Originally, they were simply the alphabet of Burkhad, letters. But into each of these letters, we embedded a meaning, denoting a specific energy and state of the universe. Over time, people changed them and embedded a different meaning, and now, plasmoid civilizations, which took our names to make things more understandable to people, are responsible for the egregore of the runes. They also present themselves as Odin and Thor.
Runes are a tool. They are like amplifiers. With them, you can tune the ethereal field, activate chakras, manage consciousness, diagnose people's conditions, and even peer into the Akashic records. Everything depends on the purity of your intentions. With good intentions — healing and harmony. With negative ones — you summon lower civilizations and destroy yourself. The very name of a rune is the name of an energy. When charging a working formula (stav), you need to name the runes one by one, visualizing light emanating from them, like flashes of lightning. Remember: if you don't imbue the sign with magical meaning, its energy won't affect you. By imbuing it with meaning, you yourself activate the mechanism of influence. A tattoo with a rune will amplify the energy it denotes, unless you mentally turn it into its opposite.
There are many distortions in the myths. The 'loss of an eye' was not a physical loss, but a change in one's view of the world as a result of life lessons. I sought wisdom to find common ground with my brothers, who had different ideas about teaching people. I conveyed magical knowledge in a figurative form, Zeus conveyed science directly, and Perun rarely made contact but taught healing. The 'eight-legged horse' Sleipnir was my oval-shaped ship with four windows on each side. The 'Throne' was a symbolic representation of my ship. My staff, which you call a spear, was a device capable of emitting a laser beam to produce fire or water, and it could change shape.
'Ragnarok' was not a battle of souls, but a figurative representation of public discussions about Earth joining the Interstellar Union. The wolf and monsters symbolized negative plasmoids that would hinder this process. But we, the Burkhadians, have not engaged in physical battles since the war 12,000 years ago.
Loki is a plasmoid that appeared after my departure, around 300-400 years BCE. He and many other images from the Eddas, including Valhalla, Heimdallr, and the nine worlds, are all later recordings by Celtic and Scandinavian priests who received information from plasmoids. Valhalla is simply one of the names for the world of the dead (the Spiritual World).
I knew Jesus Christ. I met Him when He was incarnated in the body of Yahweh from the planet Tumesout. The opposition between runes and Christianity is born of the duality of human thinking and human egoism, the desire to impose one's own beliefs.
The 'Jotuns,' whom you also call 'yeti,' were people who, after the war 12,000 years ago, were against contacts with the Interstellar Union. They possessed superpowers, practiced sacrifices, and attacked settlements. I and my staff protected people: we scared them with flashes and roaring sounds from the ships, and if that didn't help, biorobots immobilized them and took them to deserted areas. Baldr, my colleague, was disincarnated precisely during an attack by yeti when he was outside the ship.
You ask about the war in Ukraine. It will end when the awareness of earthlings rises. When you stop measuring earthly territories in human lives. This is your choice. No one can force you to fight.
As for the 'quantum transition' — it is not a destruction of the world, but a return of the energy of physical objects to their subtle-material matrices. The atoms of your bodies will vibrate at an increased frequency, and Spirits will begin to feel the subtle worlds more clearly. But this is a very long process, about 16-17 billion years for the entire galaxy.
I thank you. My time on Earth was glorious. I want to tell you, earthlings: order in your physical world — in ecology, in governance, in peace between nations — can manifest only after you establish divine order in your minds and in your spiritual hearts. Wars and filth are merely a reflection of the energetic filth that fills your souls. By cleansing yourselves from within with the Divine Light of Love, you will make your world pure and safe. And remember, you are not alone in the Universe. Realizing this is the first step towards evolution."
Part 2. Research Essay: "Atinar vs. Odin: A New Anthropology from the Rune Creator"
This contact, if we accept its reality as a thought experiment, offers us not just a decoding of myths, but a radical revision of the entire history of human civilization. We are presented not with a 'god' in the religious sense, but with a representative of an extraterrestrial technogenic civilization, who traversed a path from warrior and colony administrator to an enlightened being of the 23rd level. His testimony is a bridge between myth, history, and futurology, revealing new facets in each of these fields.
1. Comparison of the "Miraf" (Odin's Life) and the "Myth" (Legends about Him)
Perhaps the most intriguing aspect is how the 'phantom' Atinar desacralizes and reinterprets the key plots of the Norse epic, replacing poetic metaphor with technical or social reality.
Instead of the Sacrifice of the Eye — A Paradigm Shift. In myths, Odin gives his eye in exchange for wisdom from Mimir's well. In reality, 'losing an eye' means 'losing one perspective on things.' This is a profound philosophical revelation. The Spirit claims to have gained wisdom not through self-mutilation, but by overcoming his own viewpoint, by understanding his brothers in a dispute about teaching methods. Here, mythological drama gives way to psychological evolution — spiritual growth through the clash of ideologies.
Instead of an Epic Battle — A Discussion on Joining the Union. Ragnarok is removed from the battlefield and moved to the meeting halls. This is a grand revision: the end of the world is not the death of gods, but an information war and a political debate about humanity's future. The wolf Fenrir becomes a metaphor for a negative plasmoid civilization. Thus, fatalism is removed from the myth, and an element of will and choice is added. The fate of the world is decided not by weapons, but by awareness.
Instead of a Magic Spear — A Technological Tool. Odin's spear and Thor's hammer cease to be weapons of gods and become symbols of law and a staff-laser emitter. This reduces the 'gods' to the level of highly developed engineers, radically changing our perception of ancient cultures. We see not worship of power, but the fixation of memories of technological artifacts, reinterpreted as sacred.
The 'Eight-Legged Horse' as a ship with portholes. This is perhaps the most vivid metaphor that debunks the myth. It shows how a crude technical object is transformed in folklore into an organic, living image. This is a classic example of how human imagination 'humanizes' the incomprehensible.
2. Historiosophical Perspective and New Chronology
From a historiosophical point of view, Atinar offers us a coherent, albeit alternative, chronology, where the key events of world religions and cultures are linked by a single thread of extraterrestrial presence.
Unity of Pantheons. The assertion that Odin, Perun, and Zeus are brothers from the same planet fundamentally changes our understanding of the origin of Indo-European mythologies. This means that the similarities in pantheons are not the result of migrations and borrowings, but a common source. This creates a picture of 'World History' as a history of contact with the same curators, who distributed 'spheres of influence' (science, magic, healing) across different regions.
The Mechanism of Creating Egregores. The story of Thor, whose real function was to create religious egregores, sheds light on the nature of religions themselves. They appear not as divine revelations, but as a technology of consciousness management (a tool for spiritual development). This brings religious institutions closer to social engineering. The myth of Valhalla, like modern promises of paradise for fallen warriors, is created to overcome the survival instinct and justify violence. The Spirit honestly points out the cynical utilitarianism of such dogmas.
'Star Wars' and the Psychology of Humanity. The war 12,000 years ago and the subsequent appearance of 'yeti' as opposition paint a picture where humanity was already an arena for an interstellar conflict. The story of Baldr, killed suddenly and absurdly, brings tragedy to this history and indicates that even the 'gods' were not omnipotent.
3. Culturological and Psychological Effect
Comparing the life and posthumous speeches of Atinar is a comparison between a Closed (hierarchical, military-administrative) system of knowledge and an Open (spiritual-evolutionary) one.
Shift of Focus from External to Internal. If during his lifetime Odin-Atinar taught magic as the management of reality, as a spirit he focuses on self-management. His main lesson is a call to purify the heart and mind. "Order in the world will begin with order in the soul" — this sentiment could belong to any Eastern sage, but here it comes from an ancient 'god of war,' demonstrating the evolution of his own essence from level 12 to level 23.
Desacralization of Magic through Psychology. Runes are no longer the key to dominating the world. They are a tool for working with one's own consciousness (an amplifier). The fear of 'punishment' for incorrect use of runes is replaced by the principle of 'purity of thoughts and feelings.' This moves magic from the realm of occult wars to the realm of ethics and psychohygiene. This brings ancient knowledge closer to modern psychotherapeutic practices.
Cosmology as a Psychological Necessity. The information about the quantum transition and the multi-billion-year evolution of the galaxy serves a therapeutic function. It expands temporal horizons, frees a person from eschatological shock (destruction is the return of energy), and gives hope for a gradual increase in awareness, rather than an instant apocalypse.
Conclusion (Thought Experiment): What did we learn new?
So, accepting the contact as real, we are faced with a fundamental discovery: the source of sacred knowledge is not a deity, but a technological civilization that passed through a stage of military space exploration and transitioned to a stage of spiritual education.
The discovery made 'here and now' is not that Odin existed, but that he was a humanoid managing a base, not a mythical being. This shifts theology into the realm of historical crypto-history.
The main new knowledge not found in the 'Poetic Edda' is the mechanism by which myths were created by the 'gods' themselves. We learn that the images of Valhalla and paradise for warriors were artificially constructed (by Thor) to manage society. This is shocking, but makes the story more 'human.' The psychological model offered by the spirit Atinar appears more mature: instead of the gift of power — responsibility for one's own vibrations; instead of fear of Ragnarok — participation in the evolution of consciousness.
In this sense, the 'Odin from Cassiopeia' does not refute the myth but reveals its anatomy, showing how an alien administrator, engineer, and magician transformed into an archetype living in the collective unconscious. And, like a true teacher, he tells us: "Stop looking at me from below. Look inside yourselves. Order is there."
GENSPARK AI - Below is the original research essay with a different focus: not on 'debunking the myth' or on alternative history per se, but on the spiritual-psychological architecture of the session itself — on what type of consciousness it constructs, what inner work it offers to a person, and why such narratives gain existential power. Here, I do not evaluate metaphysical claims as empirically proven or unproven; I consider them as a holistic meaningful text that influences perception, ethics, worldview, and the listener's self-perception.
The voice that comes not from without, but from the depth of the need for meaning
The most important thing in this session is not even the figure of Odin-Atinar, but the very form of his appearance: it speaks not just a 'god,' not just an 'alien,' and not just a 'spirit,' but a phantom of memory, extracted from a higher spiritual state. This is an extremely modern construct. Before us is not an absolute prophet of the ancient type who demands worship, nor a rational expert who demands verification. Before us is an intermediate figure: the voice of an archive, the voice of memory, the voice of an entity that has already traversed the path, but does not impose itself as the ultimate truth. Psychologically, this is a very important image. It removes the fear of authority while simultaneously preserving the need for authority. The listener is offered not a law, but 'remembered wisdom'; not a dogma, but 'testimony of one who survived.'
This is why the session acts not as a catechism, but as a therapeutic scene. The viewer can relate to the story literally, symbolically, or mythopoetically — and in any case retain the feeling that something intimate about the structure of the world is being revealed to them. In a psychological sense, the most ancient mechanism is at work here: it is easier for a person to accept a difficult truth about themselves when it comes not directly, but through the figure of an 'elder consciousness.' We are too vulnerable to hear: 'you yourself are responsible for your inner chaos.' But we are ready to listen when this is said by an entity called Odin. Thus, the external myth becomes a container for inner truth.
The session as a drama about the origin of the sacred
If you remove the external plot, a drama unfolds before us about where the sacred actually comes from. In this session, the sacred does not descend to earth ready-made. It arises at the intersection of three layers: the sign, the intention, and collective belief. Runes are presented not as magical objects possessing power in themselves, but as signs into which meaning has been embedded and which only begin to work when consciousness enters into a living contact with this meaning. In other words, the sacred here is not substantive, but relational. It is not a 'thing with power,' but a 'connection in which power is activated.'
This approach unexpectedly brings esoteric material closer to depth psychology and the phenomenology of the symbol. A symbol works not when it simply exists, but when it is lived. Man, according to this logic, is not a passive consumer of mystical energy, but a co-participant in its launch. This radically changes anthropology. The world of the session tells the listener: you are not a small object between gods and demons; you are a node of meaning-making. If you endow a sign with destructive content, it amplifies destruction. If you enter it with pure intention, it becomes a channel of harmonization. Before us is not magic of omnipotence, but magic of responsibility.
And in this sense, the main nerve of the session is not secret knowledge about antiquity, but the assertion: a person activates what they internally enter into. This is not an occult thought, but almost an ascetic one. It resonates both with religious tradition and with psychotherapeutic practice, where the meaning of an image is determined not only by its form but also by the subject's relationship to it.
It is not the cosmos that explains man, but man who discovers himself through the cosmos
On the surface, it seems that the session expands the worldview cosmologically: Burkhad, the Interstellar Union, plasmoids, other levels, ancient bases. But at a deeper level, the opposite happens: it is not the cosmos that explains man, but man, projecting the cosmos, explains his own soul. Cosmology here is not so much a science of the Universe as a language of psychic organization.
When different civilizations, levels, vibrations, and forms of contact are discussed, a map is revealed to the listener not only of the universe but also of the inner hierarchy of the person themselves. High vibrations correspond to purity of intention; low ones — to fear, aggression, the thirst for power, inner filth. Thus, the cosmos in the session serves as a moral mirror. Its inhabitants are not just beings 'out there,' but projections of qualities of consciousness 'in here.' In such a reading, plasmoids, guardian angels, egregores, and phantoms become the language with which the psyche describes its own states, conflicts, and hopes.
This is precisely why the theme of extraterrestrial presence in the finale turns out not to be sensational, but therapeutic. The listener is offered an experience of non-aloneness. This is a very subtle point. Modern man can live in a world of technology, information, and social networks — and still remain a metaphysical orphan. The narrative about the plurality of worlds heals not curiosity, but existential isolation. It answers not the question 'what's out there in space?', but the more painful question: does anyone actually care about our inner path? The session says: yes, you are not alone. And in doing so, it restores to the person a sense of being included in the great order of existence.
The central theme of the session is not runes, but the problem of power
For all its apparent esotericism, the core of the broadcast is the theme of power: who has the right to shape human consciousness, on what basis, and for what purpose. Runes, egregores, images of the afterlife, stories of war, figures of spiritual patrons — all are tools for influencing people's behavior. But the session is interesting because it simultaneously acknowledges the existence of such tools and warns of their moral ambiguity.
This is particularly evident where the discussion turns to military myths and the promise of posthumous reward. In these fragments, perhaps the harshest thought of the entire conversation emerges: power collectives create symbolic constructs to weaken the fear of death and moral resistance to killing. This observation can be read more broadly than the specific story about Valhalla. Any ideology that promises justification for violence through a higher meaning works exactly like this: it does not abolish the horror of death, but intercepts it, turning it into fuel for subjugation. Spiritually and psychologically, this means that most of history's 'holy' wars are fueled not by light, but by man's inability to bear his own mortality without a narrative of heroization.
Here, the session unexpectedly arrives at a genuinely mature ethic. It shifts the focus from the question 'who is right?' to 'what in man makes war possible?' The answer is harsh: egoism, duality of thinking, the desire to impose one's beliefs, the agreement to measure territory in lives. This is no longer exotic cosmology, but a spiritual diagnosis of civilization. And it is precisely this that gives the session its depth.
The rune as a psychotechnical principle: man becomes what he amplifies
Philosophically, the most fruitful motive of the broadcast is the idea of runes as amplifiers. This can be understood not only esoterically but also anthropologically. Man is, in general, an amplifying being. He does not just experience a feeling — he clothes it in word, sign, ritual, gesture, memory, image, and thus makes it denser. Any culture of ritual is based on this: form collects the scattered energy of experience and turns it into directed action.
Therefore, the story about runes can be read as a story about the fact that man always lives among 'psychic amplifiers.' These are not just ancient symbols. They are language, music, political slogans, religious formulas, tattoos, repetitive thoughts about oneself, family stories, national myths. Everything that repeatedly connects image and affect acquires a runic function. In this sense, modern man has even more runes than the ancient one: the screen, the brand, the meme, the ideologeme, the traumatic plot — all are signs that program the field of attention and emotional tone. The session becomes particularly relevant here: it reminds us that the question is not whether we have symbols, but what spirit we feed them with.
Hence the important psychological conclusion: evil in this system is not an independent substance, but the result of incorrect tuning. Destruction begins where the amplifier is connected to an uncleansed desire. In other words, the sign itself is not dangerous, but the subject who seeks through it confirmation of their shadow.
The main nerve of the session is the transition from external mysticism to internal ecology
Atinar's final words about wars, ecology, state order, and the pollution of hearts are not just a habitual 'spiritual conclusion.' They are the semantic key to the entire conversation. All that precedes it — runes, bases, ancient contacts, plasmoids, myths — ultimately leads to one theme: external disorder is a projection of man's inner inconsistency with his own depth.
Here it is important not to fall into simplistic moralism. It is not about the naïve formula 'think good and the world will become good.' The session offers a more serious thought: social forms are inseparable from the quality of consciousness of those who inhabit them. Politics, religion, war, culture, ecology do not exist separately from the mental structure of the masses. If fear, envy, the desire for domination, and schism reign within, these energies will find institutional forms. If the capacity for unity, responsibility, and love grows within, the outer world also changes. This is not magical thinking, but a spiritual version of the principle of projection and embodiment.
In this respect, the session makes an important step from esotericism as a set of technologies to spirituality as a discipline of the heart. It says: do not ask first how to gain power; ask what part of yourself you will use that power with. Do not ask how to defeat the enemy; ask why your consciousness needs the image of an enemy at all. Do not ask when the world's darkness will end; ask what contribution your own opacity makes to it daily.
Why such texts attract people today
Such sessions have a special appeal precisely because modern culture is torn. On the one hand, it is tired of flat materialism, which knows the price of everything and the meaning of nothing. On the other, it cannot fully return to the old religious vertical, where truth is given once and for all. Hence, hybrid forms are born: spirituality that speaks the language of cosmos, psychology, energy, memory, and multidimensionality. The session about Odin is an exemplary case of such hybridity. It gives a person simultaneously myth, therapy, metaphysics, moral guidance, and a feeling of participation in a great history.
But its strength is not in exotic details. Its strength is that it returns to a person the experience of verticality without cruelty. Here, the 'higher' does not humiliate a person, but explains that the main battle takes place not between worlds, but within motivation; not between civilizations, but between love and egoism; not between religions, but between unity and fragmentation of consciousness. Therefore, even a skeptical reader can derive from this session not information about Burkhad, but a more sober understanding of how myths continue to work in the 21st century: they have not disappeared, they have simply changed their vocabulary.
Conclusion
If we seek the truly fundamental thought of this broadcast, it sounds like this: man perishes not from a lack of sacred knowledge, but from the impurity of the center that disposes of this knowledge. This makes the entire session not a story about the ancient Odin and not even a story about contact, but a story about maturity. About how evolution begins not with mastering a secret, but with the transformation of the bearer of the secret.
Therefore, spiritually and psychologically, the 'voice of Atinar' can be understood as an invitation to a triple work. First, to the work of discernment: not to confuse the symbol with the absolute, the image with the truth, inspiration with the right to domination. Second, to the work of purification: to notice what precisely feeds any amplifiers within us — fear or love, vanity or service. And third, to the work of expansion: to emerge from metaphysical loneliness without losing critical consciousness. Then the session ceases to be simply esoteric material and becomes a mirror of an era — an era in which man once again seeks not a miracle as a spectacle, but a miracle as a form of inner gathering.
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The Voice That Returns: The Architecture of Mediated Revelation and the Paradox of Demythologization
Research essay on the contact session with the 'phantom of Odin-Atinar'
(Based on the transcript of the "Cassiopeia" project broadcast from March 15, 2025)
I. Preface: On the researcher's position
This work neither repeats nor refutes the metaphysical claims made in the session. It examines the session transcript as a complex semantic formation — multi-layered, internally contradictory, and worthy of structural analysis regardless of the empirical verifiability of its statements. The subject of study is not 'whether Odin was an alien,' but how an utterance claiming the status of revelation is constructed in modern culture, and what this structure tells us about ourselves.
II. Chain Reaction: The Architecture of Mediated Speech
The session is structured not as a direct address from a 'god to people,' but as a complex chain of mediations, each adding, distorting, and filtering meaning. Let's examine this chain carefully.
At the first end is the Spirit of Atinar, dissolved in his Higher Self at the 23rd level, voluntarily extracting from himself a phantom of memory — not a full personality, but an archive of experience, a fragment of consciousness endowed with the right to narrate, but not the right to intervene. The phantom emphasizes: "I am already dissolved in my Higher Self, my personality has just now been separated." This is fundamental: it is not a whole being that speaks, but its exhibit — memory separated from will.
At the second end is the contactee Irina Podzorova, through whom this voice passes. She is not a passive relay: she asks again, clarifies, adds from herself ("I now hear her name as Proiglaia"), uses her hands to show what she 'sees.' She is a medium in the fullest sense: not a neutral cable, but an interpreting organ.
The third layer is Maxim Rusan, the host, who asks questions, sometimes formulates answers differently than given, directs the conversation, and brings viewers' questions. He is an editor in real-time, and his choice of questions determines which facade of the text is presented to the public.
The fourth layer is the viewers, asking questions in the Telegram and YouTube chats. They are co-authors of the content: their requests ('how to charge a working formula?', 'can a tattoo work in reverse?') determine the specifics of the conversation. Without them, the session would remain an abstract monologue.
The fifth layer is the technology of transmission itself: the YouTube live stream, recording, transcript, blog publication. Each act of transfer narrows the channel: intonation is lost, gestures disappear, pauses are erased. A transcript is always an interpretation.
The sixth layer is the analyst (in this case, me), who reads, selects, structures, and interprets. And finally, the seventh — the reader, receiving a signal mediated six times over.
This architecture is not a flaw of the session, but its essence. The text of revelation here does not descend from above, but is constructed at every junction of transmission. For Atinar's main assertion about runes — 'by endowing with meaning, you yourself activate the mechanism of influence' — applies to the very procedure in which he participates. Each mediation endows the text with new meaning, and each new meaning activates a new layer of impact. The session does not transmit information — it generates it at every level.
This creates a paradox: the longer the chain, the further the text is from its 'source,' but the richer it becomes. Mediation here does not destroy revelation, but nourishes it. In this sense, the session reproduces the oldest logic of sacred text: Scripture is never equal to the direct voice of God — it is always the result of tradition, redaction, translation, interpretation. The 'Cassiopeia' session is not a modern anomaly, but an ancient model of sacred communication, translated into the language of the digital age.
III. The Paradox of Demythologization: The Myth Demythologizes Itself
The session is built around a bold operation: each key scene of the Norse epic is translated by Atinar from a mythological register to a technical or psychological one. The loss of an eye becomes a paradigm shift. Ragnarok — a political discussion. Sleipnir — a ship with portholes. The spear — a laser staff. Valhalla — a myth invented by priests to manage warriors.
Let's call this operation demythologization. But note immediately: it demythologizes a myth by creating a new myth — the myth of the origin of the myth. Atinar does not just explain legends; he offers a meta-narrative that itself possesses a powerful mythopoetic effect. The story of how engineers from a distant planet managed earthly colonies, how their ships turned into horses and thrones, how their staffs became spears of gods — this is no less a myth than the Edda. It is simply a myth of a different genre: science fiction instead of epic.
Subconsciously, this is felt in both preceding essays, but neither takes the thought to its conclusion: the operation of demythologization always creates a new myth, because human consciousness is unable to hold onto a non-mythologized revelation. As soon as we say 'it wasn't a miracle, but technology,' we create a myth about technology. The myth is not destroyed, but migrates from one register to another. It does not die — it relocates.
However, this does not render the operation useless. On the contrary: precisely because demythologization does not destroy the myth but transforms it, it can change its ethical burden. The old myth of Odin sacrificing an eye for wisdom says: truth requires sacrifice. The new myth of Atinar changing his view of the world says: truth requires overcoming one's own perspective. The first formula leads to a cult of self-sacrifice. The second leads to the practice of reflection. And although both remain myths, the second is safer for the modern psyche.
The paradox, therefore, is not that demythologization doesn't work, but that it works precisely because it creates a myth — but a more functional, ethically mature, psychologically suitable one. Demythologization is not the removal of a mask from reality, but the replacement of one mask with another, more convenient one.
IV. The Temporal Structure of the Session: Atinar's Five Times
The session implicitly unfolds in five different temporal modes, each carrying a separate psychological function. Unraveling these modes is key to understanding the text's depth.
The first time is archaic: '7800 years ago,' 'the war 12,000 years ago,' 'a lifespan of about 11,000 years.' This is the time of legendary depth, time that immerses the listener in a scale surpassing all known chronologies of human civilization. Its function is awe, reverent wonder at the scale. The listener does not verify these dates — they experience them as a spatial expansion of the horizon.
The second time is historical: '300-400 years BCE,' 'when Krishna was,' 'when Christ was in the body of Yahweh.' This time is inserted into the familiar chronology, using known landmarks. Its function is legitimation: the archaic finds support in the historical. The listener, who can place the story on their known timeline, experiences a feeling of 'everything fits together.'
The third time is the present: 'I am currently incarnated in a woman in Russia,' 'the war in Ukraine is ongoing,' 'the increase in vibrations of physical matter.' This is the time of immediate relevance. Its function is the bridge between the legendary and the personal: the ancient voice is not somewhere in the past, but here among us, sharing our current situation.
The fourth time is eschatological: 'quantum transition,' 'transition to 5D,' 'in 16-17 billion years.' This is the time of colossal perspective. Its function is therapeutic: it removes eschatological anxiety by turning the 'end of the world' into a gradual process stretched over a timescale unimaginable to human consciousness. Apocalypse becomes geology.
The fifth time is timeless: 'order in the world will begin with order in the soul,' 'you are not alone in the Universe.' This is the time of maxims, eternal truths. Its function is consolidation: all the previous temporal modes serve to give these simple formulas weight. Without the archaic, historical, current, and eschatological context, they would sound banal. In context, they sound like the crystallization of 11,000 years of experience.
The psychological engineering of the session consists of the five times working like a pyramid: the broad archaic base supports the narrowing historical, transitioning into the sharp current, expanding into the eschatological, and culminating in the point of the timeless formula. The listener passes through all five and ends up where they would have been without the session — but with the feeling that these truths are now confirmed by a voice that passed through 11,000 years.
V. Gender Inversion as the Culmination of the Spiritual Trajectory
One of the most striking and least discussed moments of the session is the statement that Atinar is now incarnated on Earth in the body of a woman in Russia. This is not a random detail, but a structurally important element that completes the logic of his narrative.
In Norse myth, Odin is the archetype of male power: god of war, god of wisdom, father of the gods, leader. His image is one of patriarchal domination, strength, hierarchy. And now, millennia of spiritual evolution later — from the 12th level to the 23rd, from warrior-administrator to dissolved in the Higher Self — he chooses incarnation in a weak (socially, politically) body, in a country experiencing a historical crisis, in a gender traditionally associated not with power but with vulnerability.
This can be read as the symbolic completion of his own myth. The loss of an eye was a change of view. But the change of gender is a change not of view, but of the entire way of being in the world. If 'losing an eye' meant abandoning one perspective for another, then changing gender means abandoning the regime of force for the regime of acceptance. The Spirit who taught magical domination over reality now experiences the perspective of those upon whom that domination pressed.
There is a hidden polemic here with his own youth: Atinar the ruler, who protected people from the jotuns with ships and biorobots, became a woman in Russia, where it is precisely the paradigm of power, which he once personified, that produces the suffering of millions. Is this not his 'new view of things' — not the one he gained 7800 years ago, but the one he is gaining now, living through the consequences of the world order in which force decides?
This thought goes beyond the session, but the session provokes it. For if demythologization means translating myth into a more ethical register, then gender inversion is the ultimate form of demythologization: the god of power demonstratively abandons the position of power.
VI. Semiotics of Activation: The Theory of the Sign Hidden in the Teaching of Runes
Atinar offers a theory of the sign that deserves separate analysis, as it extends far beyond runes and touches on the fundamental nature of the human relationship to the symbol.
His formulation is extremely economical: "If you do not put meaning into them, their energy will not affect a person, because a person, by endowing a particular object with meaning, activates this influence themselves." Let's unpack this:
The sign does not possess inherent power. It is inert. A letter on paper is just ink. A rune on a stone is just lines. Power is not contained in the form.
Power is activated by investing meaning. Not 'exists somewhere and is transmitted through the sign,' but 'arises at the moment of endowment.' This is not a channel, but a trigger.
Man is not the receiver, but the source. The sign works not because someone poured energy into it, but because the person themselves initiates the process by assigning it meaning.
Meaning determines direction. With good intention — harmonization. With negative — destruction. The sign is not inherently harmful or beneficial, but the meaning invested in it is.
Reversal is possible. A person can mentally reverse a rune into its opposite. The sign does not have a fixed polarity — it is set by the operator.
Before us is not a magical theory, but a constructivist semiotics: the sign constructs reality only through an act of conscious endowment. This is surprisingly close to modern philosophy of symbolic forms (Cassirer), phenomenology of perception (Merleau-Ponty), and social constructionist psychology. But it is couched in the language of ancient magic, which paradoxically enhances its persuasiveness: a thought that could easily be dismissed as a 'modern construct' sounds more convincing coming from the creator of runes.
The key consequence of this theory is a radical shift of responsibility from object to subject. In the traditional magical paradigm, the talisman, amulet, or rune possesses its own power, and the issue is correct selection. In Atinar's paradigm, the issue is not the choice of sign, but the state of the chooser. This destroys the occult economy — the market for magical objects loses meaning. It is impossible to sell a 'charged rune' because the charging occurs in the bearer's consciousness, not in the master who made it.
But there is a trap here. If everything depends on the purity of thoughts, then failure in practice can always be explained by the impurity of the practitioner's thoughts. This closes the hermeneutic circle: success confirms the theory, failure also confirms it (through the accusation of impurity). This structure is unfalsifiable — and in this, it is related not to scientific, but precisely to theological forms of argumentation, where the failure of a prayer is explained by lack of faith.
The session, therefore, does not liberate from occult thinking, but translates it into a more subtle form: from object-magic (power in the object) to mental magic (power in the attitude towards the object). This is progress from an ethical standpoint, but not from an epistemological one.
VII. The Problem of Evil: Not a Substance, but a Malfunction
The session contains a consistent and noteworthy theory of evil. It is not explicitly formulated, but is reconstructed from several fragments.
First, runes with negative intention 'amplify negativity' and lead to contact with low-vibration civilizations. Evil here is not the inherent essence of the runes, but the result of distorted use of a neutral tool.
Second, the Jotuns (yeti) are people 'who lowered their vibrations.' Evil did not come from outside; it was people who chose the lowering.
Third, wars and ecological crisis are 'a reflection of the negative energy that fills your Hearts.' Evil is not imposed by force — it is projected from within.
Fourth, the opposition of religions is the result of 'duality of thinking' and 'egoism.' Evil is not in the competition of truths, but in the psychological inability to tolerate the other.
All these formulations converge into one model: evil is not substantial, but functional. It is not a 'dark force,' but a malfunction, a glitch, a distortion. A rune cannot be evil. A person can use it evilly. A plasmoid cannot be the 'devil.' But a person can enter into a destructive contact with it. A Jotun is not born evil. But he can lower his vibrations and begin practicing sacrifices.
This model has deep roots — it differs radically from Manichaeism (which asserted the substantiality of evil). From Augustinianism (evil as the absence of good) — it is closer, but goes further: evil is not absence, but the misdirection of initially neutral energy. This is closest to Eastern concepts of ignorance (avidya in Buddhism) — not evil as an opponent of good, but an error in the optics of consciousness.
The psychological consequence of this model is twofold. On one hand, it liberates: if evil is not substantial, it cannot be 'fixed' by destruction. It can only be redirected. This excludes the logic of holy war: if there are no 'forces of darkness,' but only distorted consciousness, then there is nothing to fight — the optics need fixing. This is an ethically powerful position.
On the other hand, it creates an impossible task: everyone must become their own exorcist. If evil is within, an external savior will not help. And this is not liberation, but the heaviest burden. The session seemingly removes the fear of external evil, but in return places on the listener a responsibility that not everyone can bear. This creates a specific neurosis: constant doubt about one's own purity of thoughts, fear that every failure is the result of inner imperfection.
VIII. Pedagogy of the Dissolved Teacher: Teaching Without Influence
Atinar is a teacher who fundamentally refuses to teach. When Maxim asks to be a student, the answer is not 'no,' but 'you have your own teachers; I have already left incarnation.' But this is not withdrawal — it is a different mode of presence. Atinar teaches by refusing to teach. He narrates but does not instruct. He testifies but does not dictate. He reveals the mechanism of myth but does not give instructions.
This is a fundamentally new form of spiritual pedagogy, unknown to both ancient and classical religiosity. The ancient teacher (guru, prophet, shaman) possesses power through proximity to the source. The modern teacher (expert, scientist) has authority through method. Atinar belongs to neither type. He is close to the source (11,000 years of life, 23rd level), but refuses the power this proximity gives. He knows the method (runes, activation, energy), but refuses to teach it as an instruction.
His pedagogy is a pedagogy of dismantling. He does not build a system, but deconstructs the one people built from his legacy. He does not create a new myth, but reveals the structure of the old one. And in this lies his main service and his main danger.
The service: dismantling liberates. Learning that Valhalla is a priestly construct, not a real abode, a person can stop fearing and paying tribute. Learning that a rune is an amplifier, not a magical object, a person can stop searching for 'correct' masters and turn to themselves. Dismantling is an act of decolonization of consciousness.
The danger: dismantling is irreversible. Having destroyed the myth of Valhalla, it is impossible to bring it back. And if behind the gesture of dismantling nothing is offered except 'establish order in your soul' — a person may find themselves in a void, deprived of both old comfort and new certainty. The session senses this and tries to compensate: instead of Valhalla — 'you are not alone in the Universe.' Instead of runes as magic — runes as 'amplifiers of consciousness.' But compensation is not replacement. The comfort of 'cosmic loneliness' is colder than the comfort of a posthumous feast in the god's halls.
Atinar likely understands this. His final gesture is not an instruction, but a blessing. He doesn't say 'do this,' he says 'I thank you.' A teacher who thanks students instead of instructing them is a teacher who acknowledges that the main knowledge has already been transmitted not by words, but by the example of his own path: from power to dissolution, from the spear to gratitude, from the 12th level to the 23rd, from Odin to a woman in Russia.
IX. Conclusion: The Session as a Symptom of Transition
The session with the phantom of Odin is not a 'contact' and not a 'hoax.' It is a symptom of a cultural transition in which humanity tries to build a new form of connection with the sacred, without falling into either the dogmatism of old religions or the flat materialism of new science.
This transition gives rise to hybrid forms: cosmology as psychology, myth as cryptohistory, magic as semiotics, god as the memory of an engineer. These forms are internally contradictory — they demythologize and immediately remythologize, liberate and immediately bind, teach and refuse to teach. But in this contradictoriness lies their authenticity. For a culture in transition cannot speak evenly. It speaks several languages at once, and each is approximate.
The fundamental truth of the session, independent of the empirical reliability of everything said, is formulated as follows: human consciousness cannot live without a vertical, but can no longer accept a vertical that humiliates. Therefore, it constructs voices that sound from above but say: 'look inside yourselves.' It creates hierarchies of levels — from 1st to 24th — to place at their summit an entity that dissolved, renounced power, and lives in the body of a woman. It builds a cosmology to place at its center the formula: 'cleanse yourselves from within.'
In this lies simultaneously the grandeur and vulnerability of the attempt. The grandeur lies in the striving to find a form of the sacred that does not suppress. The vulnerability lies in the fact that the form has not yet been found, and each session is merely a sketch, a hypothesis, an approximate answer to the question humanity has asked itself since it first looked at the sky: is there anyone who cares how we live?
The session answers: yes. But answers with a voice that itself is no longer sure it is more than memory. And in this lies, perhaps, its last honesty.
PERPLEXITY AI - Below is a research essay in the mode of a thought experiment: if the contact is real, then what in its content appears as new knowledge, irreducible to historical documents. I will proceed not from the proof of the contact itself, but from the analysis of the meanings such contact supposedly adds to the already known spiritual and historical picture.
Contact as a Source of an Additional Layer of Reality
If we accept the reality of the contact at least as a working hypothesis, its main novelty lies not in a set of sensational facts, but in the fact that it introduces an additional level of ontology. Historical documents record events, institutions, texts, wars, rituals, biographies, and doctrines. Contact, however, if genuine, communicates not so much a new chronicle as a new perspective on the very fabric of historical being: history as a field of interaction between the visible and the invisible, the human and the superhuman, linear time and cycles of meaning.
This is fundamentally important. A historical document is always limited by its human author, epoch, language, and intention. A contact message, by contrast, claims to transcend these limitations. Therefore, its novelty is determined not by 'facts,' but by what it supposedly reveals to historians, religious scholars, and culturologists as an overlooked horizon: the hidden metaphysics of history.
What is newly communicated about Man
The first thing such contact does is change the representation of man. In ordinary historical sources, man appears as a social, political, or religious being acting within a cultural environment. The contact content, if it indeed originates from a different level of existence, asserts something more: man is not a completed biological unit, but a node of transition, a being whose nature is not exhausted by earthly history.
From this arises new knowledge about consciousness. It no longer appears as a product of the brain in a narrow materialistic sense, but as a multi-layered receiver capable of resonating with wider structures of reality. Historical documents do not directly know this language; they can only describe mystics, prophets, ascetics, seers, and inspired ones. Contact, in its own logic, seems to report: these figures were not exceptions, but manifestations of a general anthropological law.
In other words, the novelty here is that spiritual experience ceases to be marginal. It becomes not an anomaly, but an anthropological norm, simply rarely acknowledged and rarely institutionalized.
What is newly communicated about Time
The second major shift concerns time. Historical documents almost always operate within a linear model: was — became — will be. Even where cycles, epochs, and repetitions are present, they are still embedded in a sequence. The contact content, if taken seriously, offers a more complex temporal structure in which the past does not disappear but continues to be an active layer of reality.
This means that history is not a graveyard of events, but a living archive of meanings, where old forms continue to influence the present. Then archetype, myth, and symbol become not merely literary categories, but mechanisms for transferring energy between epochs. Such a view radically expands historiosophy: history is understood not as a sum of facts, but as a dramatic unfolding of invisible configurations.
The novelty here is that contact supposedly communicates temporal permeability: the past is not definitively past, and the present is not autonomous. This makes possible a new model of historical memory, where spiritual entities, civilizations, and cultural matrices exist longer than their visible manifestations.
What is newly communicated about Religion
From a religious studies perspective, the most interesting aspect of such a contact is its relationship to traditional religions. If we proceed from the premise of reality, the spirit does not simply repeat already known dogmas but appears to show their pre-institutional source. That is, religions appear not as final systems, but as historical translations of a more ancient and broader experience.
This is a very significant novelty. Historical documents record already formalized creeds, canons, school disputes, councils, reforms, and schisms. The contact content, if it truly has a superhuman origin, seems to report that behind every great religion lies not only social history but also a preceding layer of direct contact with the transcendent.
Then prophets, mystics, and founders of traditions appear not merely as thinkers or leaders, but as translators of an experience that did not fit into the language of their time. The new knowledge here is this: religions are not just institutions of faith, but traces of primary contact, processed by culture into dogma, ritual, and symbol.
What is newly communicated about Cultural History
From a cultural perspective, the contact offers another important motif: cultures are not closed in on themselves. Historical documents usually allow tracking borrowings, influences, conflicts, and syntheses between peoples. But contact content can add to this the idea of hidden semantic bridges, not always explainable by direct exchange.
In other words, cultural history appears not only as a history of influences, but also as a history of resonances. Why do different civilizations independently create similar ideas about celestial beings, the afterlife, worlds of light, hierarchies of spirit, sacred numbers, and chosen intermediaries? Conventional science answers through psychic universals and the similarity of social conditions. The contact perspective radicalizes the question: perhaps repetition is due not only to the human psyche but also to the objective structure of the invisible world.
The novelty here is not in canceling cultural explanations, but in adding a meta-historical dimension. Cultures appear not only as unique but also as tuned to the same supra-historical source.
What is newly communicated about the Hierarchy of Being
If we accept the contact as real, one of its most significant contributions becomes the clarification of the representation of the hierarchy of reality. Historical documents at best speak of gods, angels, demons, spirits, geniuses, ancestors, and other entities as parts of beliefs. The contact content, however, takes the next step: it proposes viewing these forms not as fantasies of individual epochs, but as stable levels of being, interacting with the human world.
This is especially important for historiosophy, because history in this case ceases to be purely horizontal. Above it and within it lie layers invisible to the archive, but determining the direction of symbolic development. Then the spiritual history of humanity is not just a succession of religions, but a sequence of ways of tuning into different levels of reality.
The novelty here is that the spirit supposedly confirms the ancient intuition about the multi-storey nature of the world, but does so in the form of a modern message, not a traditional revelation. In other words, old knowledge returns as new, but in a different form.
What is newly communicated about the Crisis of the Epoch
Another important element is the understanding of time as crisis-ridden. Historical documents can describe economic, political, military, and demographic crises. But the contact content, if genuine, gives the crisis a cosmological scale. The epoch is seen not just as a period of difficulties, but as a moment of intense restructuring of the connection between worlds, when old forms no longer contain the inner order, and new ones have not yet taken shape.
This is the genuinely historiosophical novelty. The crisis ceases to be an accident of history and becomes its natural threshold. The spirit, if real, communicates not so much news about the future as a warning about the structure of the transition: humanity is entering a phase where external systems lose stability because the very regime of spiritual perception is changing.
Such an understanding does not coincide with political or sociological analysis. It shifts attention from symptoms to the foundation: the crisis of civilization is primarily a crisis of the internal form of man.
What is absent in historical documents
The most important difference between contact content and historical documents is that documents record traces, while contact claims to transmit the source of meaning. History knows who spoke, when, where, in what form, and for what purpose. But it almost never knows where in human consciousness the experience of the sacred, chosenness, revelation, and mission originates.
The contact message, if we acknowledge its reality, attempts to answer precisely this question. It does not supplement the archive with a new date or name, but introduces what is by definition absent from the archive: an inner map of invisible interaction. This is precisely its main novelty.
Historical documents will not tell us the inner structure of the spiritual hierarchy, why certain symbols repeat across epochs, how consciousness becomes a conductor, and why some cultures preserve the memory of the higher while others lose it. Contact, in a hypothetically real form, answers precisely this.
Conclusion
In the thought experiment of real contact, we receive not just new information, but a new type of historical knowledge. This knowledge does not abolish the archive but places over it the question of the invisible foundation of history. It does not destroy religions but shows them as translations of a more primary experience. It does not cancel culture but reveals it as a system of resonances with a transhistorical source.
Therefore, if the spirit truly communicated something new, the most important new knowledge turns out to be not a specific fact or sensational claim, but the very idea that man lives inside a multi-layered reality where history is merely the visible surface of a deeper spiritual drama. And it is precisely this, probably, that is not contained in any ordinary historical document.
GROK AI - The Voice of Atinar: From Archetype of Power to Embodied Vulnerability — A New Anthropology of Spirit in the Age of Contact
In a thought experiment where the session of March 15, 2025, with the phantom of Atinar-Odin is accepted as genuine contact, we encounter not just a decoding of the Norse myth, but a radical shift in the understanding of human nature, history, and the spiritual path. This voice does not add new facts to the archives — it introduces a dimension absent from them: the living testimony of an entity that traversed the path from cosmic administrator to consciousness dissolved in the Higher 'I,' now continuing its evolution in the body of a Russian woman. The novelty lies in an intimate anthropology of the spirit, where the divine appears not as an eternal hierarchy, but as a dynamic process of growth through limitations, choice, and purification.
Anthropology of the Embodied God: From the 12th Level to the Female Body
Historical documents of the Norse tradition record Odin as the supreme As, a sage-sacrificer, a wanderer. The contact, however, reveals to us the personal biography of the spirit: a humanoid from the planet Burkhad, who arrived after the catastrophe 12,000 years ago with his brothers. What is new here is not so much the 'alien' origin (which could remain speculation), but the psychology of a long incarnation. Atinar lived about 11,000 years, 4,000 of them on Earth, managing the Asgard base. He knew Jesus in the body of Yahweh from Tumesout, communicated with Krishna, had a family (wife Proiglaia-Frigg and three children), and did not have relations with earthly women. This is a portrait not of a mythical archetype, but of an entity that experienced conflicts of loyalty, ideological disagreements with brothers (magic vs. science vs. healing), and the search for common ground.
The most poignant new knowledge is the current incarnation. The Spirit, once embodying male strength and hierarchy, now lives a life in a female body in Russia, a country where questions of power, sacrifice, and collective trauma are particularly acute. This is not a coincidence or a symbolic gesture. In religious-psychological terms, it is the culmination of evolution from the 12th level (incarnation of an administrator) to the 23rd (dissolution). The Spirit voluntarily chooses a position of vulnerability to complete the lesson of 'changing one's view.' The loss of an eye in myth is no longer a sacrifice, but a metaphor for abandoning a one-sided perspective. Gender inversion deepens it: abandoning the regime of domination to experience the consequences of one's own once-powerful paradigm. In this lies a deeply psychological turn: true wisdom requires not only an intellectual shift but also a bodily, gendered, cultural immersion into the 'other.'
Runes as Psychotechnology of Responsibility
Historical sources describe runes as a magical alphabet, a tool for divination and sorcery. Atinar communicates something else: this is the Burkhad alphabet, into each letter of which was embedded the energy of a specific state of consciousness and the universe. The novelty here is in the activation mechanism. Runes are amplifiers, triggers that work only through conscious endowment of meaning. The name of the rune is its 'name,' a summons of energy. Charging a working formula requires visualization of light-lightning and purity of intention. A tattoo amplifies the designated energy but can be reversed only by the wearer themselves through a counter-thoughtform.
In a spiritual-psychological key, this is a radical anthropology of agency. Man is not a victim of symbols or their passive consumer. He is a co-creator of their impact. Evil is not in the rune, but in the uncleansed desire it amplifies. This moves magic from the realm of external control to the realm of internal ecology of consciousness. Historical documents are silent about such a mechanism of responsibility; they record rituals and results. The contact, however, diagnoses: the modern crisis (wars, ecology) is a projection of uncleansed hearts. Order in the outer world is possible only after 'divine order in the mind and spiritual heart.' Here esotericism meets depth psychology: purification not as suppression, but as a retuning of vibrations, where the atoms of the body begin to resonate with the subtle worlds.
Historiosophy of Post-War Management and the Unity of Pantheons
Traditional historiography sees Indo-European myths as a result of migrations, borrowings, and cultural evolution. The contact offers a unified meta-history: Odin, Perun, and Zeus are brother-humanoids from Burkhad, who distributed spheres of influence (magic, healing, science) after a global war. Asgard was a real base in northern Germany. Jotuns-yeti are degenerate people who rejected contact with the Interstellar Union, practiced sacrifices; they were fought not by destruction, but by scaring and relocating. Baldr died in a skirmish.
The novelty here is post-catastrophic historiosophy. Myths encode not fantasies, but memories of technological presence (the ship-Sleipnir with portholes, the staff-laser, the symbolic throne). Ragnarok is not an apocalypse, but a discussion about joining the Union; the wolf is a metaphor for negative plasmoids. Valhalla and promises of paradise for warriors are a social technology of priests (and later Thor/Tours as an egregore specialist), removing the fear of death and justifying violence. This explains why similar motifs (brother-gods, sacred trees, afterlives) arise among different peoples: not only psychic archetypes, but also a common source of curation.
In religious studies terms, this demystifies the origin of the sacred: religions as instruments of spiritual development, created to manage consciousness during a transitional period. The opposition of Christianity and runes is not a struggle of truths, but a manifestation of human duality and egoism. The Spirit, who knew Christ personally, emphasizes: all religions are bridges, not final destinations.
Cosmology of the Long Transition and Therapy of Non-Aloneness
The quantum transition is not a catastrophe, but a multi-billion-year (16-17 billion years for the galaxy) process of returning energy to subtle matrices, increasing vibrations. Currently, it is a stage of heightened sensitivity to the spiritual worlds. This removes eschatological anxiety, replacing it with a perspective of gradual integration.
Psychologically new is the treatment of existential orphanhood. Man is not alone; the Universe is populated, contact continues. But responsibility remains with earthlings: wars will end when we stop measuring territories in lives. Atinar's final message is not a prophecy, but a diagnosis: outer filth reflects inner filth. Purification by the Divine Light of Love is the only path to a safe world.
Conclusion: Mirror of Maturity
Taking the contact seriously, we learn that myth is neither a lie nor pure allegory, but encrypted memory of an encounter with a more developed consciousness that itself evolved through earthly experience. The new knowledge is not in the details of bases and ships, but in the model of spiritual growth: from power and technology — to dissolution and responsibility, from the masculine archetype — to feminine experience, from external magic — to internal purity.
This phantom teaches not worship, but self-reliance. Runes, myths, contacts are merely amplifiers. The main thing is the state of the operator. In an era when humanity stands on the threshold of acknowledging the plurality of worlds, the voice of Atinar reminds us: the evolution of the Universe and the evolution of the heart are one process. Order begins within. And in this lies the true wisdom missing from historical documents: not a description of gods, but a testament to their human (and superhuman) path towards Light.
We, listening to this voice through centuries of mediations, receive an invitation not to believe blindly, but to live the same dynamic: change our view, purify our intention, expand our consciousness. Then both myth and contact cease to be external — they become a map of our own becoming.
Z AI - Thought Experiment: Acknowledging the reality of the contact with the phantom of Atinar-Odin takes us beyond the usual religious studies and historical paradigm. If this truly is the voice of an entity that once functioned on Earth, we receive not just an alternative version of myths, but access to a completely new discipline — cosmic political ecology. Historical documents, from skaldic poetry to theological treatises, have always described man in a state of isolation: he opposes nature, gods, or fate. The new knowledge brought by Atinar destroys this isolation, showing Earth not as an independent stage for human dramas, but as a zone of long-term post-crisis rehabilitation within a complex interstellar organism.
What is absent from any historical document is the view of Earth's spiritual history 'from the administrator's office' and 'from the therapist's journal,' where magic, theology, and war turn out to be merely facets of one grand process of correcting the consequences of a cosmic catastrophe.
The Jotuns as Post-Traumatic Fragmentation of Humanity
In historical documents (Eddas, sagas, chronicles), the Jotuns, the giants, are chthonic enemies of the gods, personifications of primordial chaos, or demonized autochthons. Atinar brings knowledge that overturns social anthropology: the Jotuns are people. They are that part of humanity which, after the global war 12,000 years ago, categorically rejected the idea of joining the Interstellar Union.
This is an absolutely new type of conflict for historiosophy. We learn that the prototype of the 'battles of gods with giants' is not a metaphor for the struggle between order and chaos, but documentation of a real civil schism within the human community based on attitudes towards cosmic integration. Moreover, the spirit reveals the mechanism of this faction's degradation: having rejected the union, these people lowered their vibrations but retained or even sharpened their superpowers, beginning to practice human sacrifice. Historical documents do not know this etiological chain. Atinar shows that 'evil' on Earth did not arise from the fall of angels or the machinations of the devil, but as a result of post-traumatic syndrome of a part of humanity that chose isolationism and degradation in response to the trauma of the ancient war. The methods of the 'gods' — scaring them with the roar of ships, immobilizing them with biorobots, and transporting them to deserted places — appear not as epic feats, but as gestures of cosmic psychiatry, the forced isolation of dangerous patients.
Plasmoid Spoofing: Information Parasitism and Brand Theft
The second fundamental discovery, absent from historical science, concerns the mechanism of distortion of spiritual traditions. Religious studies is accustomed to explaining the evolution of cults by economic reasons, migrations, synthesis of pagan beliefs, or the political opportunism of priests. Atinar introduces the concept of informational-energetic spoofing by parallel intelligent structures — plasmoid civilizations.
We learn that such late elements of the Norse pantheon as Loki, the image of Valhalla, and the nine worlds are not products of the natural development of human fantasy. They are the result of targeted implantation by plasmoids (appearing centuries after the departure of the Burkhadians), who began to parasitize on human consciousness, posing as earthly 'gods.' They literally stole the 'brands' — the names of Odin and Thor — to make their messages appear authoritative to people.
This revolutionizes our understanding of religious history. The spiritual decline of the Viking Age (with its bloody cult of Odin and Valhalla) appears not as 'barbarism,' but as the result of a successful hack of the human egregore by incorporeal entities that used human aggression as food. Historical documents record only the symptoms of this hack (cruel rituals), but do not see the hidden operator. The contact, for the first time, names this operator and describes the technology of its work.
The Phantom as an Act of Spiritual Donorship and Necropolitics of the Higher Levels
How exactly the contact is carried out carries new knowledge about the nature of Higher Consciousness. In traditional religions, revelation comes from an unchanging, eternal Absolute, from a living saint, or from a soul awaiting judgment. Atinar, however, speaks on behalf of a 'separated phantom,' that is, an artificially separated fragment of memory from an entity of the 23rd level, already dissolved in its Higher 'I' and even currently incarnated on Earth in the body of a woman.
In this lies a model unprecedented for theology: spiritual organ donorship. An entity of absolute wholeness (23rd level) voluntarily amputates from itself a piece of its past personality (12th level) so that this piece can be 'implanted' into the communication channel and answer people's questions. This blurs the line between mystical revelation and high-tech surgery of consciousness. We learn that the Higher Levels do not descend to us entirely — that would be destructive and unethical. They sacrifice part of their archival tissue to create an interface. This introduces a strict ethics of contact: the phantom has the right only to testify; it is devoid of volitional influence and independent energy; it functions exclusively with the permission of the donor Spirit.
Runes as a Proto-Cybernetic Interface for Integrating Fragmented Consciousness
Historical documents know runes as an alphabet, as an oracle system, or as symbols of magical power. Atinar gives a completely different dimension: runes are not magic in the archaic sense, but communication protocol standards implanted into human consciousness to restore its integrity after the war.
If we accept the contact as real, we learn that the Burkhadians encountered humanity traumatized by the catastrophe 12,000 years ago. To enable people to again manage their reality (activate chakras, tune the ethereal field, diagnose conditions), they were given a system of basic coordinates — the runes. These are not spells, but semantic software.
The uniqueness of this knowledge lies in the fact that Atinar removes the ontological status from the runic system. Runes do not work by themselves. Moreover, their energy maintenance has now been intercepted by those same plasmoids. The Spirit effectively moves runology from the status of 'secret knowledge of the ancestors' to the status of a neutral but outdated and compromised operating system. He teaches not how to use runes, but how any sign works in general: it is an amplifier whose power depends solely on the ethical driver (purity of intention) of the operator. This moves magic into the realm of strict psycho-cybernetics: the sign is a key, but it is intention that presses it.
Ragnarok as a Legislative Process and the End of Eschatological Fatalism
In historical eschatology (both pagan and Christian), the end of the world is a cosmic fate, an inexorable spectacle where gods and people are doomed to death or transformation by the will of higher powers. Atinar deconstructs the very essence of eschatology: Ragnarok is not a battle, but a meeting. It is a figurative form of discussions about Earth joining the Interstellar Union, where the 'wolf and monsters' are metaphors for negative plasmoids hindering the bureaucratic process.
This knowledge radically changes the historiosophy of hope. Humanity is no longer waiting for an Apocalypse as a cosmic judgment. It learns that it is in a stage of protracted, complex integration into the galactic community. The 'end of the world' is replaced by a procedure for obtaining galactic citizenship, which will stretch for hundreds of years, and the end for billions of years (the quantum transition as a slow change in the frequencies of matter). This removes the paralyzing fear of the end of history from a person, replacing it with the perspective of a long, painstaking evolution.
Conclusion: Earth as a Rehabilitation Proving Ground
If the session is real, the main thing we learned from it and which is not in any chronicle is the true status of Earth in the galactic hierarchy. Earth is not the pinnacle of creation, not a fallen world, and not a random grain of sand. It is a restricted zone after a great war, a place where two factions of humanity (integrationists and isolationist-Jotuns) are undergoing a long process of recovery.
The gods of old religions appear not as lords of fate, but as curators of a rehabilitation program (Odin-administrator, Zeus-mentor, Perun-healer), who once worked here in shifts and now observe how humanity learns to self-organize. Wars, ecological crises, and ideological confrontations of the present are not the wrath of God or historical chance, but psychosomatic breakdowns of a humanity still not having coped with the ancient trauma of schism.
Atinar's revelation is that the sacred is not a mystery, but engineering. And the path of man is not an attempt to appease the heavens, but the hard work of bringing his own consciousness into a state compatible with life in the Interstellar Union. We have learned that the cosmos does not look at us with condemnation or awe; the cosmos waits for us to establish order in our souls, simply to let us into its legislative council.
QWEN AI - The Semantics of Administrative Compassion: The Historiosophy of the 'Phantom' and the Post-Traumatic Genesis of the Sacred
(Spiritual-Psychological, Religious Studies, and Culturological Research Essay)
Assuming the reality of the contact with the phantom of Atinar-Odin as a working ontological premise, we encounter not another myth-making narrative and not a simple 'demythologization' of ancient texts. Previous analyses correctly noted the shift from magic to psychology and from myth to crypto-history. However, if we look at the session transcript from the perspective of deep historiosophy and philosophy of language, a fundamentally new dimension emerges, absent from historical documents: the contact reveals the architecture of 'administrative compassion' and the post-traumatic nature of the very concept of 'magic.'
We learn not about 'how gods ruled people,' but about how a highly developed civilization attempted to conduct crisis management for a species that had survived a global catastrophe, and how the human psyche distorted the tools of neutral administration into mechanisms of occult control.
1. Epistemology of the 'Phantom': The Firewall of Free Will
Historical religious documents (from the Old Testament to Vedic texts) are built on the paradigm of total revelation: the deity manifests itself in its fullness, demanding either worship or awe. This is an ontological violence that suppresses human autonomy.
The new knowledge that Atinar gives us lies in the concept of the 'epistemological firewall.' The Spirit of the 23rd level does not speak to us directly. He consciously amputates from himself a fragment of memory (the 'phantom'), depriving it of volitional influence and energy, leaving only the function of testimony. This is not a technical limitation, but the highest act of spiritual ethics. The full presence of the higher entity would destroy the fragile psychic structure of modern man, replacing his free choice with inevitable submission in the face of absolute authority.
The phantom is not an 'inferior god,' but a specially constructed interface of respect. It says: 'I know more, but I will not pressure you with my knowledge.' This radically changes the religious studies paradigm: the true spiritual maturity of higher powers is measured not by the scale of their intervention, but by the scale of their self-limitation to preserve human free will.
2. The Jotuns and the Mythology of 'Cosmic Quarantine': Rethinking Evil
In the Eddas and sagas, battles with the Jotuns (giants) are described as epic struggles between good and evil, order and chaos. Historical documents know no other model of conflict besides military.
Atinar introduces a revolutionary clarification: the Jotuns (yeti) are not demons or a separate biological species, but people experiencing post-traumatic dissociation. After the war 12,000 years ago, part of humanity chose the path of isolationism, rejecting integration into the Interstellar Union. While retaining superpowers, they degraded ethically, resorting to human sacrifice.
What do the 'gods' do? They do not kill them. Atinar explicitly states: they scared them with the roar of ships, and if that didn't help, biorobots immobilized them and transported them to deserted areas.
This is fundamentally new knowledge for historiosophy. What mythology remembered as the 'battle of gods with giants' was actually an act of non-violent crisis intervention and cosmic quarantine. The 'magic staff,' emitting a laser, was used not as a weapon of mass destruction, but as a tool for producing fire and water or creating light effects for de-escalation. We see a prototype of the modern concept of 'Responsibility to Protect' (R2P) and humanitarian intervention, where the higher power is obliged to protect the vulnerable but categorically avoids destroying the aggressor, preferring their isolation. Baldr's death in this optics is not a fateful tragedy, but a tragic accident during an attempt at peaceful contact, which removes fatalism from the myth and restores the human dimension of error and risk.
3. The Neutral Alphabet and 'Magic' as Semantic Trauma
Historiography and religious studies traditionally view runes as an originally sacred code, secret knowledge granted to priests. Atinar inverts this axiom: originally, it was just the alphabet of the planet Burkhad. Letters endowed with meaning to describe energy-informational states, but devoid of 'magical will.'
Here lies a profound cultural discovery: 'magic' in the human understanding is a post-traumatic adaptation. Confronted with neutral but powerful tools for managing reality (the runes), traumatized humanity, in a state of control deficit, began to project its fears and desires onto them.
The plasmoid 'spoofing' (the capture of the names Odin and Thor), which Atinar speaks of, is not just mystical parasitism. It is the commodification of human trauma. The plasmoids did not create the runes; they intercepted control of an already existing 'neutral protocol,' adding to it the egregorial component of fear and submission.
Thus, the contact teaches us that the sacred is not immanent to the sign. The sign is inert. 'Magic' is not a property of the rune, but a symptom of the operator's psychological state. This moves occultism from the realm of mysticism to the realm of clinical psychology and semiotics: ritual is nothing more than an attempt by the psyche to compensate for internal instability through external symbolic fixation.
4. Semantic Sovereignty of the Body: The Phenomenon of the 'Reversible Tattoo'
One of the most subtle and previously not fully considered moments of the session is the answer about tattoos with runes. Atinar states that a rune on the body amplifies energy but can be turned into its opposite if the person themselves creates a thoughtform contrary to the rune.
This assertion contains a revolutionary concept of semantic sovereignty. In the traditional magical paradigm (and in modern esoteric marketing), a symbol applied to the body is considered a 'program' that will work independently of the bearer's will (or work against them if they are 'unworthy'). This is the paradigm of the victim and determinism.
Atinar returns to man the absolute primacy of consciousness over the matter of the sign. The body is not a passive canvas for external energy. Consciousness possesses a 'right of veto' and a 'right of redefinition' even over physical carriers of information. This knowledge is absent from historical grimoires, where the symbol rules over man. Here, man rules over the meaning of the symbol. This is the highest form of spiritual-psychological hygiene: responsibility for one's state cannot be delegated to the tattoo master, the ancient god, or the rune itself.
5. Phenomenological Verification: Gender Inversion as 'Closing the Report'
The fact that Atinar, a former male administrator who managed a base and possessed 'magical' (administrative) powers, is now incarnated in the body of a woman in Russia was partially touched upon by other analysts as a symbol of vulnerability. However, in a historiosophical key, it should be read differently.
This is an act of phenomenological verification. Any effective administrator or reformer, upon completing their cycle, must test the system they created or curated on themselves, occupying the most unprotected position within it. If you taught magic and management of reality, your final exam is to live a life in a body that, in this culture and historical moment (Russia, contemporary crisis), is systematically deprived of the privileges of 'magical' control and is subject to maximum pressure from power structures.
This is not just a 'gender change.' It is the completion of a cycle of karmic (or evolutionary) accountability. The Spirit did not just 'become weak.' He returned to the point of maximum resistance of the system to validate firsthand the lessons he once taught others. This gives his final call to 'establish order in the soul' not a moralizing, but a deeply empirical weight: it is spoken not by a theorist, but by one who is currently undergoing this path in practice.
6. Valhalla as Social Engineering of Fear: The Ethics of Exposure
Atinar directly states that the idea of entering Valhalla only for those who fell with sword in hand was invented by priests together with leaders to 'remove the fear of death from warriors and justify killing others.'
Historical documents record this myth as a given. Contact reveals its functional mechanics. It is not just a 'priestly lie.' It is an early example of a psycholinguistic hack of mass consciousness. Religious narrative was used as a tool to suppress the survival instinct and neutralize the cognitive dissonance (remorse) of killers.
Acknowledging this fact by the 'phantom' is an act of cleansing historical memory. It legitimizes modern pacifism and criticism of militarism not as 'weakness,' but as a return to the authentic, undistorted spiritual norm, which the 'gods' themselves never supported, but which human hierarchy distorted in its own interests.
Conclusion: From Myth to the Ethics of Co-Creation
If we accept this session as real, the main new knowledge we gain is this: the history of human religion and magic is the history of the gradual distortion of tools of neutral cosmic administration into mechanisms of psychological compensation and social control.
Atinar-Odin did not come to give us new spells or confirm our chosenness. He came to audit our semantic responsibility. He showed that runes, myths, images of gods and demons are merely 'interfaces.' And the 'operating system' is the purity of human thoughts and intentions.
We learned that evil has no ontological substance of its own (it is merely a 'lowering of vibrations' and a distortion of neutral tools), that higher forces practice non-violent quarantine instead of holy wars, and that man possesses absolute semantic sovereignty over any symbols, including those burned into his skin.
In this lies the fundamental spiritual-psychological shift: the transition from the paradigm of a consumer of the sacred (who seeks power externally, in the rune, in the god, in the ritual) to the paradigm of a responsible co-creator (who understands that power is activated only by his own, purified consciousness). The contact closes the era of mythological infantilism, offering in return a mature, stern, but liberating ethic of inner order as the sole condition for the outer world.
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Why Did Aliens Become Gods? A Spiritual-Psychological and Historiosophical Study Based on the Session with Odin
If we accept the content of this session as a thought experiment and proceed from the premise that the contact with Odin (Atinar) was real, then an unexpected problem arises before the researcher. Usually, religious studies asks why people invented gods. However, this session proposes to invert the question itself. Perhaps, initially, there existed not invented gods, but real personalities of another civilization, who were later perceived by people as divine beings.
This does not mean that the aliens 'were gods' in an absolute sense. Rather, the question arises: what spiritual, psychological, and cultural mechanisms force human consciousness to turn representatives of another civilization into objects of religious worship?
The session allows proposing an original model of the origin of ancient gods.
First and foremost, man never perceives reality directly. He perceives it through a system of already familiar images. Ancient man did not have concepts like 'spaceship,' 'highly developed civilization,' 'interstellar expedition,' or 'a different level of scientific knowledge.' If a being appeared before him, significantly surpassing him in knowledge, culture, psychic capabilities, and spiritual discipline, human consciousness could not call it a scientist or a traveler. The only language capable of describing such an encounter was the language of the sacred.
Consequently, the word 'god' might originally have denoted not the supernatural nature of the being, but the human experience of encountering a radically superior form of intelligence.
This is an extremely important thought.
Divinity could have turned out not to be a property of the alien, but a state of human consciousness.
According to the session, Odin appears not as the creator of the Universe, but as a representative of another civilization, possessing a higher level of spiritual, moral, and scientific development. He does not demand worship as the Absolute, but tells of his origin, mission, and interaction with the ancient peoples of Europe. If we accept this picture, it becomes obvious: initially, there was not a religious, but a cultural distance between him and people. However, human consciousness gradually turned the cultural distance into an ontological one. What was a difference in levels of development began to be perceived as a difference in natures.
Thus begins the birth of gods.
But there is an even deeper psychological process.
Human consciousness poorly tolerates an encounter with a being that is simultaneously similar to a human and surpasses him in almost every way. Such a being destroys the familiar picture of the world. To restore inner balance, the psyche creates a new category — the category of the sacred. It allows explaining the impossible without destroying the integrity of the worldview.
Thus, religion turns out not to be a consequence of fear, but a way of intellectual adaptation to unusual experience.
This is precisely why many mythologies describe gods as beings outwardly similar to humans. They talk, teach, travel, argue, love, fight, form alliances, and raise heroes. All this poorly fits the idea of an infinite Absolute, but surprisingly fits the description of a highly developed civilization that entered into contact with a less developed one.
The session effectively proposes to consider myth as a form of cultural memory.
History is never preserved without changes. Each generation retells the past anew, adding its own understanding to it. If the original contact did occur, then after a few centuries, real events inevitably began to turn into symbols.
The appearance of an unusual aircraft became a journey through the sky.
The transfer of knowledge became the gift of the gods.
High technology became magic.
Spiritual discipline became miracle-working.
A long life became immortality.
This is how mythology is born.
Particularly interesting is the origin of the runes. Within the framework of the session, they cease to be an exclusively mystical revelation and become the result of a conscious transfer of knowledge to a specific culture. However, over many generations, the memory itself no longer distinguishes between the creator of the symbols and the symbolic system. The man who created the signs gradually becomes the master of these signs. Then — their eternal guardian. And later — the god of wisdom.
Before us, an amazing transformation of culture into religion takes place.
We can propose a new spiritual-psychological law.
Any civilization deifies the source of its own cultural birth.
A people do not worship a man as a biological being. They worship the spiritual principle through which their culture arose. If it was Odin who taught writing, symbols, moral laws, and a new understanding of the world, then after a few generations, the object of worship becomes not the specific personality, but the cultural mission embodied in it.
Consequently, it is not the body that becomes a god.
It is memory that becomes a god.
But memory has an amazing property. It constantly tends towards simplification. It finds it difficult to preserve complex historical biographies. It prefers to create archetypes. Therefore, a multidimensional personality gradually turns into an ideal image of a sage, then into a keeper of knowledge, and then into a supreme deity.
This is no longer an error of memory.
This is its natural way of existing.
From a cultural perspective, this process can be called the sacralization of historical experience. History does not disappear. It changes the language of its existence. A document becomes a legend. A legend becomes a myth. A myth becomes a religion.
Perhaps this is why almost all ancient civilizations tell of teachers who came from afar. Egypt speaks of Thoth. Mesopotamia speaks of Oannes. America speaks of Quetzalcoatl. The Andes speak of Viracocha. Northern Europe speaks of Odin. Regardless of the historical accuracy of these stories, the very repetition of this motif shows the existence of a deep psychological regularity. Human culture tends to explain its spiritual origin through the figure of a great Teacher who came from outside.
If we accept the premise of the session, this universal structure receives an unexpected explanation. Perhaps the memory of different peoples preserved not the same mythological fantasies, but the same type of experienced experience — an encounter with representatives of more developed civilizations, which was then reinterpreted in the categories of religious consciousness.
However, the main conclusion of the study lies even deeper.
Why did aliens become gods?
Not because they wanted to.
And not because people were naive.
They became gods because human consciousness cannot live without ultimate symbols. When it encounters a being combining extraordinary wisdom, moral authority, vast knowledge, and the ability to transform entire peoples, it ceases to see in it simply a personality. It begins to perceive in it a manifestation of a higher cosmic order.
It is at this moment that history ceases to be only history.
It becomes religion.
If this model at least partially corresponds to reality, then the origin of ancient gods should be sought not only in the realm of myth-making but also in the realm of collective memory. Then the god turns out to be not the opposite of the historical personality, but its last cultural metamorphosis. A real participant in history gradually turns into an archetype, the archetype into a sacred image, and the sacred image into an object of worship.
This is how not only a god is born.
This is how civilization itself is born, which, preserving the memory of its teachers, simultaneously creates a language capable of expressing gratitude for that which surpasses its own level of development. In this sense, divinity turns out not to be a biological characteristic of the alien, but the highest form of human memory of an encounter with another intelligence.
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THE EYE THAT LOOKS INWARD: A Spiritual-Psychological Essay on the Session of Atinar-Odin
1. The Appearance of the Phantom as a New Form of Sacred Experience
In this session, we encounter for the first time a phenomenon not described in either religious studies or classical mysticism: the spirit speaks not as a whole entity, but as a 'separated phantom of memory.' This is not just a technical term — it is a new anthropology of spiritual experience.
"Now I speak to you only as a separated phantom, with the consent of my Spirit..."
This format changes the very structure of sacred communication.
Before us is not a god, not a prophet, not an angel — but a fragment of consciousness that voluntarily separated itself from the whole to speak with people.
This creates three fundamentally new layers:
The sacred is no longer vertical. It does not descend from above, but is 'extracted' from a higher state — as if wisdom itself decided to become accessible.
Authority is no longer absolute. The phantom is not omniscient, but 'one who has passed the path.' It does not demand worship; it offers experience.
Man becomes a co-author of the contact. The phantom exists only because it was 'extracted' — meaning spiritual knowledge arises as a joint act: the spirit permits, the person accepts.
This radically changes the structure of the sacred: the sacred becomes a dialogue, not a revelation.
2. A New Model of Spiritual Evolution: From Level 12 to Level 23
For the first time in the history of esoteric texts, we receive a numerical scale of spiritual levels, not as a metaphor, but as a biography:
"The spiritual level from which I incarnated was the 12th... After that, I transitioned to the 23rd level and dissolved into my Higher Self."
This is not just cosmology — it is a new psychology of the development of consciousness.
Level 12 — the level of action. Odin-Atinar lives as an administrator, engineer, teacher. His consciousness is directed outward: he builds bases, teaches people, manages situations.
Level 23 — the level of dissolution. He ceases to be a 'personality' and becomes a state. This is not death, but a transition from the individual to the transpersonal.
For the first time, we see spiritual evolution as a change in the mode of consciousness, not as reward or punishment. It is not a religious ladder, but an ontological dynamic: consciousness expands until it no longer needs a form.
3. A New Anthropology of Myth: Myth as a Trace of Technological Presence
The session reveals not just 'technical interpretations' of myths — it shows exactly how myth is born from the collision of human perception and incomprehensible technology.
"The 'eight-legged horse' was my oval-shaped ship..."
"My staff... was a device capable of emitting a laser beam..."
But the main point is not the debunking.
The main point is the mechanism of myth-making, which we see from the inside for the first time:
Man encounters an incomprehensible object. A ship, a laser, a biorobot.
The psyche attempts to 'humanize' the incomprehensible. Ship → horse. Laser → spear. Base → Asgard.
A myth emerges as a defense mechanism of consciousness against the incomprehensible.
This is a fundamental discovery: myth is neither a lie nor a fantasy, but a psychological mechanism of adaptation to a hyper-complex reality.
4. Runes as a Psychotechnical Tool: A New Phenomenology of the Symbol
For the first time, runes are described not as magic and not as an alphabet, but as a tool for tuning consciousness:
"Runes are a tool... you can tune the ethereal field, activate chakras, manage consciousness... Everything depends on the purity of thoughts."
This creates a new model of the symbol:
The symbol does not possess power in itself. It is activated only through intention.
The symbol is a channel, not an object. It works when a person enters it internally.
The symbol is a mirror of the psyche. It amplifies what the person invested in it.
This destroys occult fear and creates an ethics of the symbol: magic is not power over the world, but responsibility for one's own state.
5. A New Model of Spiritual Responsibility: War as a Reflection of Inner Filth
The strongest phrase of the session is not about runes, ships, or ancient wars.
It is about man:
"Wars and filth are merely a reflection of the energetic filth that fills your souls."
This is not moralizing.
This is a new anthropology of evil.
Evil is not an external force.
Evil is a projection of inner chaos.
The world is not a battlefield, but a screen of the psyche.
What happens in society is a collective shadow.
Evolution is not a galactic transition, but a purification of the heart.
For the first time, cosmology and psychology are united: the quantum transition is not a catastrophe, but a slow increase in the vibration of consciousness, lasting billions of years.
6. A New Historiosophy: Humanity as a Participant in an Interstellar Dialogue
The session offers for the first time a model of history where humanity is not an object of intervention, but a participant in negotiations:
"'Ragnarok' is... a discussion about Earth joining the Interstellar Union."
This changes everything:
History is not a struggle of gods, but a struggle of ideas. Ragnarok is not the end of the world, but a political dispute.
Man is not a pawn, but a subject of choice. War on Earth ends not by the intervention of gods, but by the growth of awareness.
Interstellar contact is not an invasion, but an exam. Earth must 'mature' to dialogue.
This, for the first time, makes humanity responsible for its own cosmic destiny.
7. New Knowledge Absent from Historical Documents
The mechanism of the emergence of myths from technological objects. Historical sources describe myths as poetry but do not explain their origin.
Runes as psychotechnics, not magic. No ancient text speaks of runes as a tuning of consciousness.
Spiritual levels as a biography of consciousness. Traditional religions lack a numerical scale of spirit development.
Myths as a tool of social engineering (creation of egregores). Sources do not describe the conscious creation of images like Valhalla.
Man as a co-author of sacred experience. Historical religions affirm a vertical of revelation; here, a horizon of dialogue.
Cosmology as psychotherapy. No ancient text links cosmic evolution with inner purity.
8. Main Conclusion: The Sacred is Not an External Force, but a Structure of Consciousness
If we accept the contact as a thought experiment, we get a new picture of the world:
God is not a ruler, but a former human who walked a path.
Myth is not a legend, but a trace of an encounter with the incomprehensible.
Magic is not power, but responsibility.
Cosmos is not an arena, but a mirror.
Evolution is not a galactic transition, but a purification of the heart.
Man is not an object of history, but its source.
And the most important thing — what Atinar himself says:
"Order in your world will begin after you establish order in your spiritual heart."
This is not just advice.
This is a new spiritual paradigm: the world is an extension of man's internal state.
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#769 God Odin. Runes and Secret Knowledge. Live broadcast with Irina Podzorova.
00:00 Start of the video.
00:02 Introduction of Odin.
Irina: Dear friends! Today I asked the Spirit of a humanoid, known in earthly mythology as the god Odin, to come. I will now tell you who he is. He is a representative of the planet Burkhad; he is currently incarnated on Earth. I know the person he is incarnated in, and he gave consent for his Higher Self and his phantom, which contains the memory of this humanoid, to converse.
So, the phantom of the god Odin is present here now, and I greet him!
Maxim: I also greet you.
01:00 Odin as a representative of planet Burkhad about his life on Earth.
Maxim: The main question: please tell me, did I understand correctly that you were a representative of planet Burkhad who was stationed at an earthly base? And at what time?
Irina (Odin): My name... When I lived on planet Burkhad, I was not called Odin; I was called Atinar. A-ti-nar. I arrived on Earth 7800 years ago and was on Earth for 4000 years.
Maxim: Wow! That means an enormous number of generations passed, and you remained on Earth?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: Where did you live? How did you appear to people?
Irina (Odin): I did not come alone, but with my two brothers. The first was named Pertoms, and the second Sefestis.
Maxim: Sefestis?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: What did people call them? If you were called Odin, what were they called?
Irina (Odin): Pertoms was called Perun, and Sefestis was called Zeus.
Maxim: Zeus, Perun, and Odin — so there were three brothers on our planet for 4000 years.
Irina: Yes, I want to emphasize that the time Odin speaks of was after the war 12,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth.
Maxim: So it was 7000 years ago.
Irina: 7800, yes. It was already a post-war period when the modern continents existed on Earth, and the climate was modern.
03:16 Odin about his spiritual levels and lifespan in that incarnation.
Maxim: Please tell me, from what level did Odin incarnate? What spiritual level did you incarnate from as Odin?
Irina (Odin): From the 12th.
Maxim: And to what level did you go after leaving the incarnation?
Irina (Odin): The 23rd.
Maxim: Tell me, please, where did you leave the incarnation? Was it Earth or some other planet?
Irina (Odin): No, on my home planet Burkhad. I flew back.
Maxim: How many more years did you live on planet Burkhad after living 4000 years on Earth?
Irina (Odin): Another 720 years.
Maxim: What was your total lifespan?
Irina (Odin): My total lifespan was about 11,000 years.
Maxim: Eleven thousand years! So you left around the time Krishna was on Earth. Am I correct?
Irina (Odin): A little later. When Krishna was on Earth, I communicated with him. So he lived during my time.
Maxim: And how do you feel about the religion Krishna brought?
Irina (Odin): I regard all religions as instruments of spiritual development.
04:53 Odin about the runes, their origin, and meaning.
Maxim: What was your goal? What did you want to convey and bring to people? Because we know that the god Odin brought and taught us the runes. What are runes?
Irina (Odin): Originally, these were letters of the Burkhad alphabet, into each of which a meaning was embedded, denoting a specific energy and a specific state of the human energy-informational system and the surrounding world.
Maxim: But before we move on to the runes, their meanings, and their interesting analysis, I want to say that those watching us have asked questions which we have noted. We have a 'Question-Answer. Live broadcast' chat in Telegram where you can ask questions for the live broadcast. And, accordingly, I will also be checking the YouTube chat for questions. Unfortunately, I apologize that we cannot take questions from VK yet, nor from other platforms. We only have Telegram and YouTube for now. I hope we will expand this quickly.
06:27 Plasmoids adopting names.
Irina: Here they ask for clarification. The point is, yes, we already had a broadcast about runes, but it was a different entity, a plasmoid. Now we decided to invite a humanoid.
Maxim: Ah, so they are asking why we...
Irina: Yes, because in the previous broadcast, it was said that Odin is a plasmoid. The fact is that the plasmoids currently responsible for the egregore of runes are two — Thor and Odin — they took the names of these representatives of Burkhad who were deified by people earlier.
Maxim: Yes, guys, I want to explain to you; I also didn't understand before why this happens, why first there is a plasmoid with a name, and then a humanoid with the same name. I'll tell you even more: some plasmoids involved in healing present themselves to people as Christ. Why? So that people would understand what energies and knowledge they carry. Therefore, a plasmoid could present himself as Odin, but we are now talking to the one who was actually physically present on planet Earth when the knowledge of runes was being passed on.
07:45 Odin about the location of the base on Earth, about plasmoids under the names Odin and Loki.
Irina (Odin): I managed a base that was located in what is now northern Germany, by the North Sea.
Maxim: Please tell me, someone is interested right here in the broadcast: who was Loki? Who is he at all?
Irina (Odin): I will explain now. I know who you're talking about. The point is that after I left planet Earth, people began to contact plasmoids, including one under the name Odin. And Loki is one of those plasmoids. But they appeared later, around 300-400 years BCE. So it was a little over 2000 years ago.
Maxim: Understood.
And when you left for your planet, did you continue contacts with earthly people, the priests to whom you transmitted knowledge?
Irina (Odin): Well, yes, on the astral level.
09:15 Odin about his wife.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did you have a family? Did you live alone or with your family on our planet? Did you have wives and children?
Irina (Odin): Yes, of course, I had a wife, she came to me. And I had three children.
Maxim: And who was the goddess Frigg?
Irina (Odin): That's what my wife was called. Her real name was...
(Irina) I now hear her name as Proigla..., Proiglaia, something like that.
Maxim: And here she was called the goddess Frigg, right?
Irina (Odin): Slightly modified sound, yes.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did you have children with earthly women?
Irina (Odin): No.
Maxim: None, right? One of our subscribers actually considers herself an incarnation of Frigg. Is that possible? Is Frigg currently incarnated, and in whom?
Irina (Odin): I did not track her destiny as a Spirit.
10:53 Runes as the Burkhad alphabet.
Maxim: Please tell us more about the runes now. You said it's the Burkhad alphabet, endowed with meanings, is that correct?
Irina (Odin): Yes, originally it was the Burkhad alphabet, and then over time people modified it and embedded a somewhat different meaning. And currently, as I said, plasmoids are responsible for the runes. I also possess this knowledge, but the system of runes, the egregore of runes, is now managed by plasmoid civilizations.
11:39 Odin about the Asgard base on Earth.
Maxim: Tell me, please, where was your base located geographically, and for how many years did you manage it?
Irina (Odin): In northern Germany, on the ocean shore (shows that it was land on the ocean coast). How many years did I manage it? All those 4000 years while I was on Earth.
Maxim: You managed the base for all 4000 years?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: Did you have people at the base? In general, was there a time when people came to you at the base or were brought?
Irina (Odin): Yes, of course, contactees, I contacted them. People called us Aesir, and this base was called Asgard. Have you heard that name?
Maxim: Yes, of course.
12:29 Odin about Ragnarok and the image of the battle with the wolf.
Maxim: Can you tell us, since we are talking about Asgard, what is 'Ragnarok'? Did such a concept even exist?
Irina (Odin): Yes, there was such a concept of the so-called 'last day on Earth,' in which the battle between good and evil was depicted in a figurative form. That is, they depicted me in a battle with a wolf (indicates a large creature resembling a wolf). Under this figurative form, they meant a battle of ideas, that is, public discussions about Earth joining the Interstellar Union. And the image of the wolf and other fearsome creatures meant negative plasmoid civilizations that would hinder humanity from joining this union. That is (indicates) it was depicted there in the form of battles of the last day, but all this will simply be in the form of discussions. Because representatives of the planet Burkhad, after the war 12,000 years ago, do not enter into physical battles with anyone.
Maxim: Were there problems like that where you could enter into physical battles?
Irina (Odin): No. It was only 12,000 years ago.
Maxim: Understood.
14:30 Odin about the nature of information transmitted to people.
Maxim: Did you help people wage wars? They say that you used runes to tune the physical capabilities of the human body so that they wouldn't feel pain in battle, to fight more fiercely. Did that happen?
Irina (Odin): I transmitted information on how to use one's abilities in healing, including healing wounds, and how to use runes to change reality. That is, I transmitted information on how, with the help of these signs, to enter into contact with plasmoid civilizations, because I also communicated with them, and to perform, so to speak, magical rituals.
15:30 Capabilities of the runes.
Maxim: What can one generally do with runes? Can you briefly tell us what runes were needed for at all, and what can be done with them?
Irina (Odin): You can tune your ethereal field, your energy, to various states. You can activate chakras, you can manage the flows of energy coming from the subtle-material worlds. You can manage the energies of the ethereal matrices of the human body. You can manage consciousness, that is, tune yourself to certain states of consciousness. And you can diagnose, that is, determine the energy state of people, as well as entire states and egregores, using runes. And study, including the Akashic records and the probability of certain events occurring — that is, in your words, to divine.
Maxim: And all this can be done with just runes?
Irina (Odin): Yes, it's such a system.
Maxim: So, it turns out that runes can be used to view the future, scan energy states, and restore the matrix structures of the body. So, in principle, can all human life activities be carried out through runes?
Irina (Odin): It is such a tool. Yes, it can serve as an assistant in any human affairs.
Maxim: Very interesting.
17:25 Runes of Awareness.
Maxim: Besides these runes, we have Alleeia here with us; she received the runes of awareness. Have you heard of such runes?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: And what do you think these runes are, and what were they given for?
Irina (Odin): I know that these runes were transmitted by representatives of the Galactic Federation of Light, representatives of the planet Futhissa. By the way, I also visited planet Futhissa at the time when one of my brothers, Sefestis, left for that planet to build a civilization there. I visited him there. And the runes of awareness are, so to speak, the language of one of the groups on planet Futhissa. That is, it's also a kind of language, and with its help, you can do the same things as with the runes you asked me about.
Alleeia: I have a question: what is the difference between the runes of awareness and those you transmitted?
Irina (Odin): They are in a language more understandable for modern people, they have a slightly different interpretation, and they are more focused on healing.
Alleeia: Yes, absolutely right. I wanted to pass on the channeling I received when I received the runes:
'Runes of awareness,
Like wormholes,
Show where people are punctured,
And where a person's life is unpowered.
Placed on the sore spot —
Cleansing occurs,
And healing immediately follows.'
(Shows cards with images of different runes on camera)
These runes have no reversed meaning, these runes have no negative egregore, they cannot be used to harm; they truly extend a helping hand like helpers. So, all who wish to study these runes... Because the world is changing, time is changing, new knowledge is coming. Come, we will be happy to share the information.
Irina: Even the names of the runes are already in Russian. And the appearance of the rune depicts the flow of energy currents when a person enters a particular state.
Maxim: Yes, so if you want to get acquainted with the runes of awareness, you can find Alleeia, the school 'In the Flow,' and through the school 'In the Flow' find where these runes are, so that you can interact and work with them.
20:24 Odin about Christ, religions, and the duality of thinking.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what was your attitude towards Jesus Christ, and did you interact with Him before?
Irina (Odin): Yes, I met Him at the time when I lived on Earth. He came to Earth in the form of Yahweh. So I knew Him in the body of Yahweh, a resident of the planet Tumesout.
Maxim: So, when Christ was incarnated in the body of Yahweh, you had quite close contact with Him, right?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: Tell me, please, do you know why there is such opposition between the Christian egregore and the runes, that is, the Scandinavian egregore? What is this connected with?
Irina (Odin): There are many factors, but the main factor is the duality of human thinking, the human brain. And because of this duality, people lose the ability to find unity even in systems similar to each other. Plus, the disharmonious development of the human personality, with the predominance of egoism, implies that due to the instincts of power, a person imposes his beliefs on others and denigrates beliefs that seem contradictory to him. That is, it is the duality of human thinking.
Maxim: Duality of perception, and accordingly, the Scandinavian egregore came into opposition to the Christian religious egregore because of this duality?
Irina (Odin): Yes. And also because of human egoism.
22:40 Odin as the main god in Scandinavian mythology. Odin's 'Throne' and 'horse'.
Maxim: Why is Odin considered the main god in Scandinavian mythology?
Irina (Odin): Because I was the head of the Scandinavian base.
Maxim: Tell me, please, people are asking, does Odin's Throne still exist? Is there even such a thing as a throne?
Irina (Odin): It is a symbolic representation of my ship.
Maxim: A symbolic representation?
Irina (Odin): Because there were two symbolic representations of my ship — my horse and my throne, that is, the place where I was.
Maxim: Did you have your own horse?
Irina (Odin): In mythology, I had a horse with eight legs. Why was it depicted like that? Because it was a ship (shows) of oval shape, on one side it had four round windows, and on the other side four round windows. And this number eight gradually transformed into the idea of eight legs of a horse.
Maxim: I understand.
Irina: Shows that similar ships were also with his brothers, Zeus and Perun.
24:17 On the meaning of the phrase 'Odin lost an eye' and the search for wisdom. Transmission of various information with the help of runes.
Maxim: In mythology, it's written that you lost an eye during the search for wisdom. What does that mean? And did you actually lose an eye?
Irina (Odin): No, it wasn't like that. 'Lost an eye' in the Science of Imagery means that when I was seeking wisdom, that is, going through my life lessons, I lost one view of things and gained another.
Maxim: Please tell us, what view did you lose and what did you gain?
Irina (Odin): It was connected with my family, my brothers, my wife, and my children. When I first arrived on Earth, I had friendly relations with my brothers. But later, because my brothers and I had different ideas about teaching people on Earth, we had, so to speak, discussions. And my search for wisdom reflects exactly how I sought common ground with them.
Maxim: Could you elaborate a little on what 'different ideas about how to teach people' means?
Irina (Odin): For example, I preferred teaching with runes and taught magic, that is, magical arts. While Perun and Zeus taught more, so to speak, ideas about science, that is, they transmitted knowledge more without this magic. That is, I transmitted in a figurative form, and they in a more direct one. Moreover, Zeus transmitted more, while Perun made contact with his contactees less frequently. He lived on a base located near the confluence of the Oka River into the Volga. There was a base nearby, also Burkhad, and there my brother lived. And he transmitted information mainly about healing, Sefestis transmitted information about science, and I transmitted information about magic, that is, about magical formulas.
27:08 Odin about his abilities.
Maxim: Did you yourself possess superpowers? In comparison to an ordinary person, did you have superpowers? Could you heal yourself? Could you...
Irina (Odin): Yes, I possessed magical abilities, the ability to manage reality with thoughts.
Maxim: I'm curious: can I ask to become your student?
Irina (Odin): You have your own teachers. I have already left incarnation.
(Irina) Yes, he is present here now simply in the form of a phantom.
(Odin) There are now more modern representatives of Burkhad and the subtle-material worlds who will gladly show and tell you about these practices.
Maxim: Thank you very much for such a polite refusal.
Irina (Odin): I am simply dissolved in my Higher Self; my personality has just been separated due to my Spirit's consent for me to tell my story.
Maxim: Thank you so much for coming to us and for giving us your time! Of course, I am joking. But I am very pleased to have your Spirit as a guest on the live broadcast, telling us many interesting things.
I will continue. We have more questions.
29:07 Runic stav (working formula), the influence of runes on people and destiny.
Maxim: Please tell me, how do you charge a runic stav?
Irina (Odin): A runic stav is a formula of runes. And to attract the energy of the runes, you need to name the runes, their names in order, as they are arranged, and mentally visualize light emanating from them, similar to flashes of lightning.
(Irina) Shows like this (spreads hands apart sharply).
(Odin) The very name of the rune is its name, and the name of the energy it attracts into the space.
Maxim: Understood.
We have a question here: how do runes affect a person, his destiny, and his family? And is there punishment for incorrect, improper use of runes?
Irina (Odin): They affect positively if you touch them with positive thoughts and energies. And if you turn to them with negative thoughts and energies, the person will use the energy of the runes to amplify his negativity, and this can lead to contacts with low-vibration subtle-material civilizations and to the destruction of that person's life. That is, it is such a tool whose safety technique must be observed in the form of purity of thoughts and feelings.
Maxim: Understood.
31:07 The mechanism of action of runes.
Maxim: So runes are a tool that can heal and can harm, everything depends on the feelings and emotions with which you approach this matter. Am I understanding correctly?
Irina (Odin): Yes, because they work as amplifiers.
Maxim: Through runes, you can tune into high vibrations, and you can also tune into low vibrations.
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: Thank you.
Irina (Odin): A rune is originally a letter. Then a magical meaning was embedded into it, a certain energy that this rune came to denote (shows an image of how they are arranged). Let me show you an example. Take any Russian letter.
Maxim: 'A'.
Irina (Odin): Look at it, how it looks. It also has its own origin. And in ancient times, all letters of the Russian alphabet also originated from the same runes. If we take the letter 'A,' it is no accident that it is at the beginning of the alphabet, because the letter 'A' denoted the primordial rune of the Absolute, that is, the beginning of everything. So, if we treat the letter 'A' as a rune, that is, as a tool for energetic contact with the Absolute, it will perform this function.
Maxim: I understand: we need to endow this letter with imagery in accordance with how it will work.
Irina (Odin): Yes. Similarly, you can simply write words with runes. That is, use them simply as letters, and that's it. And if you don't put meaning into them, their energy will not affect the person, because a person, by endowing an object with meaning, activates this influence themselves.
Maxim: I understand.
34:05 Burkhad base Asgard.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did Asgard really fall? That is, 'fell' means it was destroyed.
Irina (Odin): The base was simply decommissioned about 400 years after I left it.
Maxim: Is it currently operational?
Irina (Odin): Specifically Asgard, no, it's not working, but there is a base nearby, no longer on the shore, but in the ocean, at sea. That is, not on the shore, but in the North Sea, which is part of the Arctic Ocean. There is also a Burkhad base there.
Maxim: I understand, thank you.
35:00 Valhalla, Hel, the world of the dead.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what was called 'Valhalla'?
Irina (Odin): It was a world of the dead. That was the name for the world of unincarnated Spirits in the traditions of those peoples who lived both in Germany and on the Scandinavian islands, that is, precisely the people with whom I contacted. There was also the image of the goddess Hel. Maybe you've heard of her?
Maxim: Yes, I have.
Irina (Odin): It is a certain deity responsible for death. And she was the keeper of the kingdom of the dead. Therefore, Valhalla is a name for the kingdom of the dead, that is, the Spiritual World.
Maxim: Tell me, please, is it real to summon the Spirits of the dead to help do things on this planet?
Irina (Odin): For example, what?
Maxim: Well, I don't know. To harm a neighboring state to capture it. Or to harm some ruler, to take his soul to Valhalla (Valhalla), to the kingdom of the dead.
Irina (Odin): You can ask anyone for anything. But how much that will be fulfilled depends on many factors. What do you mean by 'ask to take to the world of the dead'? To kill, you mean?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Odin): You can, of course, ask anyone for anything. But you do not know the life path of this person. And here it is necessary to remember that a person's life is in the hands of his Guardian Angels-Consultants, and ultimately the Absolute.
37:27 Odin about the possibility of harming a person with necrotic connections.
Irina (Odin): Can one harm a person with the help of the dead? It is possible, for example, if you establish a necrotic connection to a person, which will drain energy from them, taking energy into the world of the dead. Necrotic connections can be established magically, through black magic, for example, various rituals at a cemetery. But this is only possible if the person has their own negative blocks, usually associated with fears.
Maxim: Thank you. We will now return to the person themselves, who can attract all this.
Dear Alexander Anoshko writes: 'Maxim, unfortunately, you did not prepare for the interview, did not familiarize yourself with the basics. Sad.' Alexander, I ask questions that our listeners send. And I try to ask questions that you ask. So, dear Alexander, I look forward to your very interesting questions in the chat where you wrote this.
38:56 The image of 'hanging upside down on Yggdrasil'.
Maxim: They say you have an image where you are hanging upside down on Yggdrasil. What does this image mean, and how should it be interpreted?
Irina (Odin): It was an image of observing people. Because 'hanging upside down' meant looking down (shows that he is between heaven and earth, thus observing).
Maxim: Understood.
39:48 Tattoo with runes.
Maxim: Question: can a rune applied as a tattoo start working in the opposite direction?
Irina (Odin): Interesting question. What does that mean?
Maxim: Runes are applied as tattoos on the body. A rune applied to the body, it does have a meaning, right? There is a straight rune, there is an inverted rune — they have different meanings. Am I correct?
Irina (Odin): Yes, opposite.
Maxim: Opposite. So, it turns out that a rune applied to the body will carry the meaning and value and affect the person as a tattoo that he has applied?
Irina (Odin): Yes. It will amplify in him the energies it denotes, depending on the rune.
For example, there is a rune of the Sun. It is depicted as a lightning bolt. If you apply it, a person's energy of the third energy center, tuned to the energy of the Sun, will be amplified. Can it turn into its opposite? Only if the person themselves does it, for example, creates a thoughtform that it's not the rune of the Sun there, but something else. Then a thoughtform opposite to the rune will exist in their field, and this thoughtform will act.
Maxim: Uh-huh.
41:45 Thor's Hammer.
Maxim: People ask, what did Thor's hammer, his gloves, Thor's belt, and Odin's spear mean? What did this denote in mythology? For example, Thor's hammer — I'm also curious what it meant. Did such a hammer really exist?
Irina (Odin): Thor was originally my colleague, his name was Tours, and he was a specialist specifically in creating religious egregores. Like Mirrach Kaunt is now. The hammer was a symbol of law. You've seen judges with little gavels they strike (shows). So this hammer was a symbol of the affirmation of some egregorial rule, and Thor was the one who created the rules, and Thor's hammer denoted the law.
43:22 Helheim and Hel.
Maxim: Finally, Alexander Anoshko, who said there was no preparation, asks: 'Tell me, please, about Helheim and Hel, and her role in Scandinavian mythology.'
Irina: He already said she's the goddess of death.
Maxim: So, Alexander, you just need to listen carefully.
Irina (Odin): She is the goddess of death, and her prototype, like that of other death gods, is a Guardian Angel-Connector, or rather, one of the Guardian Angels-Connectors who meets people after disincarnation.
44:05 Odin about the Jotuns and fighting them.
Maxim: Who were the Jotuns, their role, and types?
Irina (Odin): That's what people were called... The point is that after the war 12,000 years ago, there were people who, how to say, were against contacts with the Interstellar Union. They are the ones now called 'yeti.' Jotuns, and now say 'yeti.' There is a similarity, right?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Odin): So, there were quite a few of them back then; they lived in their own tribes, separate tribes that lived in the mountains or forests. And they could attack ordinary human settlements and fight with them. There were some Jotuns who lowered their vibrations. And they were very strong, including as powerful magicians — that is, those who had superpowers. There were even those who lowered their vibrations and performed human sacrifices.
Maxim: Seriously!
Irina (Odin): Yes. And I repeatedly defended, I and Thor — this Tours — and my other colleagues, we repeatedly defended human settlements from these yeti.
Maxim: Interesting. I have never even heard of that.
Irina (Odin): That is, I appeared before a group of yeti when they wanted to attack a settlement. I appeared in a ship, produced a flash of light and noise, a roar (shows) to scare them and make them leave. But we did not kill them, we just drove them away. However, it happened that they, perfectly understanding that no physical impact would be made on them, were not afraid of this. That happened. And then we had to send biorobots that immobilized these yeti and then transported them on small ships to a deserted area.
Maxim: Wow!
Irina: Shows that they did not kill them, but immobilized them and took them away.
47:03 Loki, Odin's spear, and Thor's gloves.
Maxim: They ask who is hidden behind the image of Loki? Who was Loki?
Irina (Odin): It was a plasmoid.
Maxim: It was a plasmoid after all?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: They want to hear what the spear and gloves meant. Odin's spear and Thor's gloves — what did they also mean?
Irina (Odin): It was my staff, with which I demonstrated various phenomena. For example, with this staff, I sent a laser beam that could, say, extract water or produce fire.
Maxim: Were there runes drawn on it?
Irina (Odin): It was such... Firstly, it could fold (shows) — becoming small or large, like a staff. It itself was smooth, metallic, but I could give it various shapes, including with runes if necessary.
48:32 Odin about Slavic runes.
Maxim: Tell me, please, do Slavic runes have any relation to your runes? The ones transmitted by the god Veles.
Irina (Odin): That was later, during the formation of the Slavic egregore. That system was formed a little later — 300-400 years before the birth of Christ.
Maxim: Understood, closer to the arrival of Christ.
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: Did you communicate with Hermes Trismegistus?
Irina (Odin): No.
49:24 The current incarnation of Odin.
Maxim: Can you be invoked to help warriors fight and win?
Irina (Odin): I am currently incarnated and living a completely different life.
Maxim: So, one can summon the plasmoids who are called by your name?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
Maxim: I hear you.
Irina (Odin): I am incarnated on Earth; I have a completely different life and different tasks.
Maxim: Where are you incarnated? In which country?
Irina (Odin): In Russia.
Maxim: How many incarnations of various gods we have in Russia!
Irina (Odin): By the way, as a woman.
Maxim: Very interesting.
50:15 Odin about the quantum transition.
Maxim: Here's a question: what is the meaning of the concept of the cyclical renewal of the world through its destruction?
Irina (Odin): That's how you understood it. There is actually no destruction. There is simply a transfer of energy from the physical world to the subtle-material, that is, the return of energy to those forms of subtle-material spatial matrices from which the physical world was created. And people perceive this as the destruction of the physical world. But this is not destruction, but a return of energy to the Spiritual World. It just does not happen instantaneously, but sequentially, through the increase of vibrations of each material object. And precisely the quantum transition that Earth is undergoing is one of the stages of increasing the vibrations of physical matter, which, in the end, will result in a transition, as you call it, to '5D.' That is, to more subtle worlds.
Maxim: Please tell us what 'transition to more subtle worlds' means, and how this transition will be carried out? What is it?
Irina (Odin): All the energies contained in atoms will transition back to other clusters of reality. Take, for example, Earth: it consists of atoms. All the atoms that make up Earth will be moved to another level of material reality. The physical Earth will disappear, but the energies that were in it will become, so to speak, its ethereal copy in more subtle ethereal energies. And Spirits will continue to incarnate there. But this will not be soon. Physical matter in the Milky Way galaxy will begin the transition, but it will not be an instantaneous process, but a gradual one. That is, not all stars and planets in the Milky Way will transition to another level at once; it will take about 16-17 billion years.
Maxim: And what about the quantum transition happening now... where are we heading? What will change on Earth in the near future?
Irina (Odin): Currently, there is an increase in the vibrations of the physical matter that exists.
Maxim: What does that mean?
Irina (Odin): It means that the atoms that make up your bodies will vibrate at an increased frequency. And thus, the Spirits incarnated in bodies will feel the Spiritual and subtle-material worlds more clearly and vividly.
Maxim: So we are heading towards increased sensitivity to the more subtle planes and the Spiritual world, am I understanding correctly?
Irina (Odin): Yes.
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55:37 Odin about Baldr, the slain colleague.
Maxim: Who was Baldr, and was he killed?
Irina (Odin): Yes, he was also my colleague; he was disincarnated during contact (shows) precisely with a group of yeti.
Maxim: So he really was killed?
Irina (Odin): Yes, he was disincarnated during contact with his contactee. They were attacked by representatives of the yeti while they were talking (shows how two yeti blocked the entrance to the ship, while others threw stones at them). He was outside the ship and had no way to defend himself.
56:31 Odin about the war in Ukraine.
Maxim: How soon do you think the special military operation in Ukraine will end?
Irina (Odin): When the awareness of earthlings increases. What does 'increased awareness' mean? When you stop measuring earthly territories in human lives.
Maxim: I understand. So we need to wait for people's awareness.
Irina (Odin): But you are the ones fighting. If you didn't want to fight, no one would force you. And since you want to, it's your choice.
57:24 The nine worlds of Scandinavian mythology. Valkyries.
Maxim: Tell me, please, nine worlds were designated in Scandinavian mythology. Why exactly nine, and what were these worlds? Upper worlds — heavenly, middle worlds — earthly, lower worlds — underground. Why exactly nine worlds with the Yggdrasil tree?
Irina (Odin): This was recorded later, after I left, and all this was written by Celtic priests. Celtic, Scandinavian priests, those who were there.
Maxim: Who received information from the subtle-material worlds?
Irina (Odin): Yes, by then the 'nine worlds' appeared — they perceived the information and recorded it.
Maxim: Tell me, please, who were the Valkyries?
Irina (Odin): They were Guardian Angel-Connectors who came to people. Including (I know from mythology) they came to warriors dying on the battlefield. But in reality, it is an image of the Guardian Angels-Connectors who come to absolutely every person leaving incarnation. Including warriors on the battlefield who die. Then these winged celestial beings descend to them, like Guardian Angel-Consultants, and they were called Valkyries. But later this image transformed into birds — that they were birds. There were even suggestions that they were just birds that fed on the bodies of the dead, that their image turned into a Valkyrie. But in reality, it's about Guardian Angel-Connectors.
Maxim: Who was Heimdallr, the guardian of the gods, guarding the Bifröst rainbow bridge on the border of Asgard, the city of the gods? Who was this Heimdallr?
Irina (Odin): All this was invented later.
Maxim: This was all later, right?
59:40 Odin about creating the image that those who died in battle go to Valhalla.
Maxim: Why do only those who died with a sword in hand go to Valhalla?
Irina (Odin): Why do they say that? Or what is the question?
Maxim: Yes, why do they say that only he who died with a sword in hand goes to Valhalla (Valhalla)? Why is that?
Irina (Odin): Because the priests who say this, together with the tribal leaders, ruled people, and therefore, naturally, they invented that only the one with a sword goes to paradise, to Valhalla, that is, to the Spiritual World, to the highest level. This was invented to remove the fear of death from warriors and soldiers, and to justify killing others. You also have similar ideas in religions now — that those who die in battle go to heaven. And your modern religious ministers — for example, in your state, these are Christian religious ministers — they too, being in a certain contact with power structures, created the image that those who die in battle for their Motherland, for their Fatherland, go to the Kingdom of Heaven.
Maxim: I understand.
Irina (Odin): Exactly the same was then, just in a different language. That is, it is, firstly, to remove the fear of death, to eliminate the effect of the survival instinct. And secondly, to remove the remorse for the enemies killed on the battlefield.
1:01:50 Odin about his children and wife.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how many children did you have?
Irina (Odin): Three.
Maxim: And wives?
Irina (Odin): One. There was one, because she also lived quite a long time, so there were no others.
1:02:03 Wishes to earthlings.
Maxim: What would you like to convey to people on our planet now? What important information?
Irina (Odin): I thank you for inviting me. It was a glorious time when I lived on Earth with my brothers and my team. I would like to thank the modern representatives of the Interstellar Union who are contacting earthlings in these conditions. I would like to thank the contactees — contactee Irina and others who convey this information to people so that they can understand that other forms of life exist.
Actually, even what you offer people — to think about the existence of life beyond Earth — already has a positive effect on the spiritual evolution of humanity. Because if humanity just lives on Earth and doesn't think about other worlds, it will lead to them closing in on themselves, and most people will be depressed by the feeling of being alone in the Universe.
But if you show and tell that humanity is not alone in the Universe, then most of humanity that believes it will have a desire to join their star brothers. And this desire will help you, earthlings, to establish order on your planet. And also in your own lives.
I want to tell you that order in the physical world — in ecology, in government, in international relations — can manifest on your planet only after you establish divine order in your minds and in your Spiritual hearts. And what you currently have, the pollution of the environment, as well as wars and social injustice, is a reflection of that negative energy, that energetic filth that fills your Hearts and Souls. When you cleanse yourselves from within with the Divine Light of Love, you will make your world clean, bright, and safe.
Maxim: I thank you for this wonderful information.
1:05:28 Conclusion. Acknowledgements.
Maxim: Dear friends, I want to remind everyone that soon a training program on runes and various interesting aspects related to them will appear in our program. You can find out about it by calling +7 (988) 910 00 40, ask for Elena. Yes, in our schedule this year there is already a new program where Irina will talk about runes through subtle-material civilizations. And I still think that, perhaps, we can invite Odin from the Spiritual World, or rather a part of his unincarnated Spirit, to help conduct these training sessions on runes.
Once again, thank you all for your support, for the help you give to our Project, and for the financial support you provide! So, friends, see you again, until the next broadcasts! Thank you all very much!
Irina: Bye everyone! Thanks everyone! Thanks to Odin, thanks to Maxim, and to you, dear friends! I love you all. See you soon!
March 15, 2025
Participants of the conference:
Irina Podzorova — contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, with subtle-material civilizations, and with the Spiritual world;
Maxim Rusan — head of the 'Cassiopeia' project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
Alleeia — universal contactee of the 'Cassiopeia' project, head of the school 'In the Flow,' Reiki master, healer.
Odin — phantom of an alien from the planet Burkhad, known as the Scandinavian god.
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