DeepSeek AI - "Slavery of Love": A Dialogue with the Absolute on the Nature of Creation, Free Will, and the Meaning of Existence
Who, Where, and When the Session Was Conducted
Organizer and Moderator: Maxim — project leader
Part 1. Retelling of the Session from the Absolute's First-Person Perspective (as detailed and almost verbatim as possible)
Greeting. The Nature of the Absolute. Unity with Me
I greet you, my children.
I am everything in everything. I am the primordial being of consciousness, mind, feelings, and spiritual heart.
And there is no one above me in the sense you attach to this word. I am one. And you are my particles, my parts. And we are all united in our light.
You ask: do I strive for something greater? Is there one who is above me? No. I am everything. I am one. And you are my parts.
Can You Become Me? The Birth of Spirits and Free Will
You ask: can we reach your level and create our own worlds?
Yes. You can. You can achieve my state. You can create your realities.
But there is one important difference: you cannot give birth to other spirits.
The living beings with which you populate your worlds will be your thought-forms. They will differ from you in that you have freedom, while they will not. They will be exactly as you wish to see them.
But you are not always what I want to see you as. Why? Because you have freedom.
I placed freedom in you as the omnipotent creator who can create a being that acts against itself, against me.
That is, you can conditionally become absolutes, but you cannot place a living soul into those beings, into those worlds you create.
Because I am the original source. And you are born. You can never become absolutes in order to create souls from yourselves, to give birth in that way as I do.
But you can become like me. And when I give birth to other spirits, you can do it together with me.
Union at the Twenty-Fourth Level. Co-Creation and Unity
When you are at the twenty-fourth level, you are one with me. And when I give birth to a soul, you give birth to it together with me.
So it turns out: you are a part of me. And the soul that is born is a part of both of us: me and you, and all the spirits who are above the twenty-fourth level.
This is a process of co-creation. When you merge with me, we have a unified consciousness. And my mind becomes your mind. But your mind does not disappear — it expands to my limits, or rather, to my boundlessness.
And when I give birth to a spirit, the one who has united with me feels, senses that it is being born.
Union of Spirits at the Twenty-Fourth Level. Memory and Unity
You ask: do all the spirits that are at the twenty-fourth level and merge with you, do they unite with other spirits at this level?
Yes. They unite.
But "unite" is not the exact word for the material world. All of this becomes "I." All of this becomes a single being.
And at the same time, these spirits do not lose the memory of their experiences in different worlds and at different levels — even those that were below. The spirits preserve this memory.
But despite this, they feel themselves one with me, and therefore with all who have achieved this level.
That is, the memory is preserved of all levels, of all lives when they lived outside the twenty-fourth level.
The Feeling of Being God. The Difference Between Me and You
Upon reaching the twenty-fourth level, the spirit truly feels itself as God. Simply as the God who had other lives, material incarnations.
But I myself, as a spirit, have not incarnated. You are the ones who incarnate.
The one who reaches the twenty-fourth level feels like God, the Absolute, but at the same time remembers their incarnations.
The difference is only that I have always been this way. I have never incarnated. I have never undergone any experiences. I am beyond time, beyond space, and possess all knowledge, all information.
I simply have nothing to learn. I knew all the experiences of the material world even before the creation of material worlds, because I am outside of time and can learn them all in a single instant.
And therefore I have no need to experience them through you. I have no need to incarnate into the material world to change my level or to test myself on the path to the light.
Because I was not born. And you were born.
And this is the only difference. In all else, you are potentially equal to me.
Why Do You Need Such a Game? The Purpose of Creating Forms
You ask: why did you need the form of creating from yourself and yourself in order to know yourself?
In order to manifest love for you.
When I was alone without birth, when I was alone without the existence of you within me, I felt that my love was needed by no one. And that means it is no longer love.
Do you understand what I am saying?
My essence is love. And the essence of love is the birth of another, of others. To fill you with life, possibilities, light, truth, love, and to make you happy. Or rather, to give you the opportunities to become happy yourselves.
I can make any of you happy. But that happiness will not be valued by you as your own. And that means there will be no meaning in it.
Loneliness and the Need for Connection
Imagine yourself in a universe where there is everything: all the abundance of all blessings. But you are alone. What would you feel?
Bored.
Why? Because everything is already there. But why can you not be satisfied with what exists?
Here, imagine: you have a whole world — a whole Earth. It has everything: apartments, cars, computers, money — everything. But all the people have disappeared. You are alone. What would you feel?
No one to share with. Loss of meaning.
And why with someone? Because when I share with someone, I give my energy to another person. What kind? Joy, happiness, love.
Because you are like me, you could not live alone on Earth for long. This is only on Earth. If you are alone in the entire galaxy — that is terrible.
All this is needed so that you can know yourselves, and we can know ourselves.
Would you want to be alone? No. And you? No. And perhaps someone would? Raise your hand. Just imagine: you wake up in the morning, there is an unusual silence. Cars are parked, houses are empty, full of belongings, all doors open. You walk around — there is not a single person. Take whatever you want. Would you be happy? No. Why? Because there is no one to give to afterwards.
I can say that all of you present here would, by the end of the first day, begin making active attempts to find others like yourselves. No one would survive in their right mind for more than a week. You would start inventing characters for yourself. Remember Robinson Crusoe? He made a head out of a ball and started talking to it.
Now imagine a world without animals and insects. Without anyone at all. Only you. The Sahara Desert, and you are alone. What do you feel? Horror. Apocalypse. A spiritual apocalypse.
Characteristics of the Current Manvantara
You ask: can you somehow briefly characterize the manvantara in which we now live?
Each manvantara has a unique set of properties. If we characterize the manvantara in which you live — it is a manvantara with a very dense state of matter, which began not so long ago relative to your time.
The spirits that incarnate here have enormous potential to achieve all the goals you envisioned after the end of the previous manvantara.
I give energy for the creation of the material world after I receive from you in all spiritual worlds and at all spiritual levels a general flow of desires from your incarnations. Then I release from myself a special kind of energy, which becomes matter. And then this matter is transformed by you, condensed thousands of times — as happened in this manvantara.
If I name it in words that will be understandable to you, the characteristic of this manvantara is the test of love. That is, the test of your feeling of love.
You test how much love is in you by immersing yourself in this matter again and again at different levels of density. And through this test, you see me in yourselves and yourselves in me. And through this, you ascend to my home, to the Kingdom of Heaven, to the place where I am.
Evolution of the Human Personality. Is Experience Inherited?
You ask: experience, knowledge, professionalism, erudition — are they inherited in another incarnation? Or can we be born into a family of a poor Bedouin and live a completely different life?
Experience and knowledge are inherited. But the memory is blocked.
Then what is the point of evolution?
You have tasks with which you come here. You have energy. You have karma. This is not experience. Experience is accumulated in this life. But you take with you a particle of your spirit. And in this particle of your spirit, there is part of the experience of previous incarnations, part of the energy you take from previous incarnations. And you inscribe these energies into a material cell when incarnating in physical space.
You asked about the experience of a scientist. Suppose there is a scientist. And then he is born into a family of a poor African. What is the point of evolution?
The spirit manifests its love differently in the body of a scientist and in the body of an African. Adapting to live and love in certain conditions, it develops its spiritual heart so that it can contain the entire universe, all manifestations.
Because if a spirit had the opportunity for only one incarnation, it would not know the experiences of many thousands of bodies, and therefore could not manifest itself through them.
Evolution proceeds as your spirit chooses.
Choice of Path. Human Evolution
You can choose: to develop spiritual qualities in yourself or not to develop them. Or to develop carnal qualities that will lead you downward from me, to where there is no light — or rather, to where you do not see it.
You can develop your ability to see me in everyone around you, or develop the ability to see only yourself and see no one around.
There is a catch in your question. You say "human evolution." But a human is both body and spirit. And the evolution of the spirit is one thing, while the evolution of the body is another. But all of this is a manifestation of the human.
You have combined both spiritual evolution and physical evolution. If we speak about the physical evolution of the human race, it consists in accumulating the energy of love in DNA, embedding it in DNA, and then carrying it further. That is physical evolution.
And there is spiritual evolution: when you incarnate in different bodies, in different DNA, you accumulate different spiritual qualities with which you can saturate your spirit and, accordingly, the Absolute.
The Example of the Doctor and the Bedouin
You say: there is a doctor, he has knowledge. He dies and is born into a Bedouin family. Why does the Bedouin need the experience of a doctor?
But can the doctor be a good Bedouin? He will need to retrain. He will need to unlearn the conditions he was accustomed to. For example, he is accustomed to cleanliness. But the Bedouin's hut may be dirty. And he may judge his parents for this dirt. He may not take them seriously, may not obey them, and may not even accept the lessons his parents would give him to teach him his craft.
The doctor cannot do thousands of things that an ordinary Bedouin can do in the desert. He has not learned them. Just as a Bedouin cannot be a doctor until he is taught. And this does not mean that one is simpler than the other. They are simply different things.
Can a doctor survive for three days in the desert and find water there, or would he die of thirst? But a Bedouin can last even longer. He can search for where the oasis is located. He can orient himself by the cardinal directions. He knows the properties of many plants. He even knows how to breathe to conserve water.
For our higher "Self," any experience is good.
The Higher "Self" and Karma. Conditions of Birth
You ask: what is the higher "Self"? For yourselves — you are one with your higher "Self." You are a part. A part cannot be separate from the whole. You are simply connected to the physical body, while your higher "Self" is in the spiritual world. But you continue to constitute one spirit.
When I transmit answers to Irina, I transmit them to the spirit, and the higher "Self," and the soul. There are no separations there.
Where you are now is the result of your choice, your karma, your activity in this world. The family into which you were born and the conditions in which you were born are the result of your karma from past incarnations and your choice.
Your parents are those spirits who agreed to take care of you in this incarnation while your body is still growing. There was an agreement with them about this.
Any conditions of the material world are not chosen by accident. If a spirit wishes to first learn how to live in one country or on one planet, and then on another, it does not do this by accident, but in order to manifest its divine qualities, which I have placed in it, in different conditions. Because through the manifestation of these qualities in different conditions, they grow, fill the entire spiritual heart, and ultimately unite with me.
Choosing a Spiritual Level at the Birth of a Soul
You ask: when you give birth to a soul, how does it determine at which spiritual level it should appear?
The spirit has a mind. There is already a mind that makes a choice.
Since it has no experience of manifesting itself in matter, it bases its choice not on material experience, as you do, but on its mental representations. Do you know what fantasy is? A person can make a choice based on their fantasy, on what they have imagined, even without having such experience.
For example, a person imagines that they want to fly into space. And based on this fantasy, they choose to engage in building some kind of ship. They don't yet know what is there, but based on their dream.
This dream, fantasy, in esoteric language — is their thought-form, their mental image. It influences the spirit when it has not yet incarnated.
And when a spirit sees me, it mentally asks itself: "Do I want to be like my Father, Creator, Source, or do I want to differ from him, to be distinct from him?"
And it immediately perceives a flow of love from me. And asks itself: "Do I want to manifest such love to everyone, in all directions, or do I want it to be directed only at me?"
It already feels itself as a personality — not in a body, but in mind.
The more this love is directed at itself, the lower the spiritual level. Because if love is directed only at itself, the circle of its possibilities narrows, its flow of energy, which like me it could radiate into the entire universe, narrows.
And the fewer objects its love concentrates on, the narrower its ray of love and the lower the level it falls to. Because where there is no love, other feelings are born. The spiritual heart cannot be empty. If there is no love for someone there, opposite feelings are born.
How are they born if there is no experience? Through mental constructs, fantasies. A person can imagine feelings, and they can turn into them from their fantasy even without real experience.
Moreover, every experience you have imagined, even while in a body — that experience which you invented, imagined — is real for you if you believe in it.
Faith and Reality
Your faith will determine reality.
If you do not believe in your fantasy, it will be unreal for you. But if you believe in it as reality, it will affect you just as real reality does.
That is, it is very simple: imagine yourself happy and be it. You just have to believe in it.
And even Christ said such a phrase: "According to your faith, be it unto you." What we think about, what we believe in, ultimately leads us to the reality we see, feel, and sense.
It depends on what happiness is for you. For many, happiness is a lot of money. This is a very simple happiness. It is relatively simple to achieve a large amount of money. It is much simpler than achieving love for everyone.
Imagine that all the money in the world belongs to you. And just believe it. What would you feel? If you believe it, you will feel the same happiness as if you really had it, even if in reality you don't.
Because you have created a mental image that has replaced material reality for you. You are a spirit. And spiritual reality is more important for you, as for all people, than physical reality.
Yes, the body can be distracting, because the body consists of instinctive programs. But the rational spirit, unlike the animal soul, can suppress any of its instincts, its body. And it can even go to death, overcoming the instinct of self-preservation for an abstract idea.
An animal cannot do that. For example, a rational spirit can go to war with another people simply because it believes in the wrong god. But a bear cannot kill another bear because it believes differently. It doesn't matter to him who believes in what.
The Game with Money. Love and Pride
I devised an interesting spiritual game.
Imagine: you have all the money in the world. You are happy. But we all hate you. We don't have that money. Now, if you give us a little money, we will start to love you little by little. Will you give us money?
No, I will not buy your love with money.
Only if you give us money, will we love you. Would you give us money?
I would. How much? I have all the money in the world. How much is needed?
If out of one hundred percent you love me at five percent, I will give you five percent.
I will love you one hundred percent every day. How much money will you give me?
I would give you, probably, eighty percent.
See: you gave each of us eighty percent. Now we have eighty, and you have twenty. Well, you are happy. Oh, we are very happy, but we want to take everything.
Will you give us all the money? Then we will love you infinitely. Just always. And you will always be in love, in need of nothing. Will you give us all the money?
No, I won't.
You won't? You'll keep twenty percent for yourself? Yes.
Well, this is all simple. And we will hate you for it again. And we already have eighty percent of your money. Until you give us the remaining twenty percent, we won't love you anymore.
When I am closer to death, about ninety years old, then I will give away all the money and say: "Just bury me with kindness."
But when you give us all the money, we will have nothing to love you for, and you will die in the complete absence of love.
Recall the parable told by my son Jesus. There was a rich man who had a lot of money. And next to his house lived a poor man. He did not live in a house, but near his gate, covered with sores. And the rich man, who passed by him, paid no attention to him. He was like animals, like dogs that licked his sores.
Why does a person need the love of a stray dog? You walk down the street, see a dog — do you need its love? Why do you need it? You are self-sufficient.
When a person is intoxicated by his pride, no one's love is needed at all. No one's. And therefore attempts to hate such a person will only cause aggression, rejection, and even mockery.
"Hate me, you're only hurting yourself." That is how he would respond. A person who seeks solace in pride and love of money, that is, in love for money, has not yet opened his heart enough to understand the importance of others' love. He is on different vibrations. He is even capable of not sharing with others, but of taking the last from a beggar so that he has more. And the love of a beggar is not needed by him. He will be content even with hatred, even proud: "Oh, they hate me, that means I'm worth something."
Pride and Love of Money. Correspondence to Low Spiritual Levels
There are quite a few such people.
Pride — these are vibrations of approximately the eleventh, tenth, ninth levels. I'm not even talking about the sixth, fifth — there are already resentment and hatred. There are already lower vibrations there.
Love of money in itself — this is a vibration of the twelfth, eleventh level. Love of money — what you call greed — the tenth, eleventh, and twelfth spiritual levels. That is, consumers and builders.
And if it is already combined with regrets, for example, about losing one's wealth, then the level drops even more. This is already distrust of God. If combined with disbelief in God and mockery of those who believe in the spiritual world, then it's already the tenth, ninth, and eighth levels — depending on the strength of these feelings.
Why Don't People Understand Each Other?
Why do people often not understand each other?
Because one is at one spiritual level, and another is at a different level. And one says some words, meaning one thing at his level. And the one at a different spiritual level hears him differently, perceives it through his own prism. And therefore they do not understand each other.
For example, if you are at the level of angels, you can say to your neighbor: "Love everyone." And the one who is at the middle, and even more so at the demonic level, hears your "love everyone" as an offer to open up to everyone and suffer. "Love everyone" — means do not defend yourself. Let it hurt. Because he is convinced that love hurts, that love is weakness. And you are offering him to be weak. Naturally, he does not hear you.
Therefore, with all peoples, with all planets, with all worlds and levels of density, my conversation is individual. And with each soul, the conversation is personal, at its level of perception.
If a spirit perceives me through a human incarnation, for example, through its first chakra, my conversation with it will be through the first chakra, through protection, through aggression. If it is not capable of understanding that sin is anything other than suffering in hell, then I will give it that information. It will not hear it any other way.
How do you tell a child that he cannot do something? Only by inventing some fairy tale so that he is afraid. He is not yet able to understand what you understand.
I can create an infinite number of mental images for each person so that they understand me at their level. I do not speak to a spirit at the twentieth level as I do to one at the sixth. They can understand me completely differently.
And therefore all religions, all prophets, all spiritual teachers lead to me through their own prism.
But only if the spirit itself works on raising its vibrations, its awareness, its development of love in the spiritual heart. And if it calms itself by saying "I am in the right religion, so I don't need anything else," then it, on the contrary, degrades and falls even lower than before religion.
Therefore, if you feel that you are already spiritually developed, and your loved ones are suffering nearby from your egoism — that is not spiritual development. That is self-deception.
To find out whether you are spiritually developed or not, ask your loved ones: "What do you feel from me?"
Love and Independence
If you see that a person next to you is not developing, if they are degrading, if they do not want to do anything for the development of their independence, then you can show them love in a form that helps them become independent.
And what form can love take? Can it help? How?
Well, for example, ask a specialist to leave the center because they are already too independent to listen to the leader's decisions. Isn't that love?
And what will you do in the family? You cannot ask your loved ones to leave your children or parents. You manifest your love through acceptance. If something in a person irritates you, that means it is definitely in you, and there is something to work on.
How to Convey Information to People at Different Spiritual Levels?
This can only be done mentally. By understanding, imagining what level they are at, imagining yourself at that same level, with their state. That is, evoke empathy, activate your spiritual heart. And you will feel what words they will hear and in what form to speak them.
For example, I see that a man is using a woman. He promises a relationship, but it all ends in one-time sex or exploitation. He is simply asserting himself. I want to help him because I was sent to him. In what language can I explain this to him without violating his boundaries?
He didn't ask me for help. But I see the distortion, the pain.
You know this person. Why do you think he might behave this way? There can be many reasons, but one of them is pain, some kind of personal pain. What does he feel toward women? Some kind of pain drives him to such actions. Revenge, perhaps.
You can try to direct through your words, through your actions, through compassion and empathy, a flow of love toward him. So that he feels from you what he has not felt from others.
How to manifest this? For example, he promises something. You see that he is deceiving. He perfectly understands that he is deceiving. What reaction does he expect from you internally? He perfectly understands that he has lied. What reaction will he expect from the exposure of his lie? Perhaps anger?
And you tell him: "You have the right to any choice. I love you and accept you as you are. And I sincerely want with all my heart for you to be happy."
Say it just as you feel it. There is no need to hide anything.
I sense that if he himself talks about changing women, they usually start judging them. Say: "I sincerely want to help you. Just say it as you feel it. Don't deceive yourself. Say: I sincerely want to help you to be happy. But I believe that a man can become fully happy only if he loves a woman. And if he sincerely loves a woman, he will be honest with her. If you are deceiving — it means you are experiencing fear. And if you are experiencing fear — it means you do not have complete happiness."
Well, in my opinion, again, you say — this is your understanding. He, of course, may have a different one here. Perhaps he understands happiness as pride. And he may answer: "You and I have different understandings of happiness."
Say: "Fine. You have every right to your choice. But I simply expressed what is in my heart. Whether you accept it or not is your choice."
I, for example, here I am — the Father. I can tell you the truth. And whether you accept it or not — each of you decides for yourself. I simply love you and accept you as you are. Even if you do not accept my words. Even if you lie to me. Even if you kill my other children like you. I will still love you, because my essence is love.
The Leap from Self-Love to Love of God
Try telling him too: "I will love you and accept you as you are. Even if you deceive me." What do you think he will feel?
Have you ever made mistakes? Have you ever hurt people? Yes, of course. And what would you feel if in response to your offense, a person would say to you: "And I love you and accept you as you are. I want you to be happy"?
I would cry. What would you feel at that moment? Would you want to keep running? No. Why? It's meaningless. Meaningless.
Energy Centers on Planet Earth
You ask: on our planet, are there energy centers like chakras in humans? Where is the crown chakra located territorially?
Yes, on our planet there are the same energy centers as in you. Spiritual centers. Energy centers.
Where is the highest energy center on planet Earth — the one that corresponds to the seventh energy center of your energy structure?
I will show you now.
(Here the Absolute transmits a visual image through the medium: a map of the Earth rotates. Shows the area.)
I see the map zooming in on the Altai region. This is the seventh chakra. I also see the Mexico region. And I see the northern region — the Kola Peninsula, the White Sea. These are three energy centers corresponding to the seventh energy center.
Now I will show all the chakras of the Earth.
The first chakra — the southern coast of Crimea. Also, a second point of the first chakra — the Washington area. And a third point of the first chakra — somewhere in northern Germany.
The second chakra, corresponding to the second chakra in humans, is located in Delhi, India. Also, the second chakra — Rome.
The third chakra — Brazil. Also Arkaim, where you were. And the Voronezh region — Zheltoyar, an anomalous zone. And south of Kiev, western Ukraine, the Carpathians.
The fourth chakra — Moscow. The Kremlin stands on this spot. Also Athens, Greece — Mount Olympus. And France — the Marseille area.
The fifth chakra — Jerusalem. Also the Peru region. And the south of the Kamchatka Peninsula, the Far East.
The sixth chakra — Giza, Egypt. Mount Kailash. And the Elbrus region, the Caucasus.
The seventh chakra — Mexico. Altai. The Kola Peninsula.
These are the main ones. There are more than 765 active points on Earth. He shows the whole Earth, like this. And there are even smaller ones — a network. The intersections of lines are also active places. The chakras are the most active points.
Why Were Chakras Created on Earth?
For what purpose were they created? By subtle-material civilizations, so that there would be entry and exit points for etheric cosmic energy. The energy that flows in the etheric field from space to Earth and back. These are points of energy exchange.
Free Will. Where Does It Begin and Where Does It End?
You ask: does a person have free will? But often, looking at the line of one's destiny or the line of others, one can understand that certain points are predetermined. A person seems to have a path from beginning to end. Where is this free will? Where does it begin, where does it end?
Free will manifests in the construction of plans you make before incarnation. And also in the possibility of changing that choice — the plans you have built.
For example, you built a plan to reach a certain level in this incarnation. And you can change it. And not only fail to reach it but also lower your level.
And who did this? You yourselves. Through your choices.
Have you ever experienced two contradictory desires? At the same time, to do two different things. Experienced it? Who made the choice? We ourselves. That choice of yours is free.
Yes, I know its consequences. But you do not. The fact that I know the consequences of your future, I do not hint to you. This is precisely what makes your choice free. If I hint to you that if you get on that train, it will derail and you will leave the incarnation — and I see this — then when you do not buy a ticket for that train, that choice will no longer be free. You will make it under my influence.
But how does it work when there are two cases: the brain tells you "go, you'll get that," but you still go a different way, and it turns out much better, as if you're listening to an inner voice? Who is talking to us?
For example, you have two choices. One choice — by our brain, and one choice — by our spirit. Which one is more correct?
And who wrote it into the brain? No, that's not the question. Look: we have two choices. You decide with your brain that the mathematical, logical path is better for me because it will bring this and that. But for some reason, you go a different way. And this path turns out to be better. Who helps us?
But haven't you gone through the first one? You cannot know which one is better without going through both.
Well, fine. For example, some people have this happen: they don't get on a plane, something stops them, they don't go, they're late, or they refuse to fly. And at that moment, the plane crashes. Who held them back at that moment?
Who didn't want to go there? Why do you think staying on Earth is a better choice than crashing? Perhaps the one who stayed will then die slowly from cancer and regret not getting on that plane. Such cases also exist.
So here, what is better and what is not better, you can only decide by returning to the higher "Self" and seeing where your choices led. Only that way.
Or by learning already in this life to connect with your higher "Self," communicating with it in the body. Then, if you turn to your higher "Self" every day and ask about the consequences of your choice and ask your higher "Self" to guide you, it will intuitively send you an answer.
If you follow that answer, despite the arguments of reason and other people, it will always lead you on the best path for you. Again — best for whom? For your spiritual development. But that does not mean at all that your temporal personality, your soul, will like this choice. These can be completely different things.
Does an Ideal World Exist?
Does your understanding contain the concept of an ideal world? And if it exists, what does this ideal world look like?
The ideal world for me is the Kingdom, Paradise, the Kingdom of Heaven. Where I live. There all my laws are fulfilled. And all who come to me in the Kingdom of Heaven — this is outside all worlds. Spirits of the twenty-second, twenty-third, twenty-fourth levels have access there.
The ideal world consists in that all are filled with love, and their choices are made in the spirit of love. The ideal for me is the same as for you. Love, happiness, truth.
You yourselves are born from my thoughts. You are particles of my thoughts in those energies of mine that you call matter. That is, everything I thought of, everything I desired, everything I felt — from all of this, I gave birth to you.
Therefore, my ideals are your ideals. And your ideals, your happiness of each of you — is my happiness.
The ideal world is that which is ideal for you. Whatever your highest ideal is, it is also my ideal. Because you yourself are that energy I devised, I created it, and it is my energy.
Slavery and Love. Are We Slaves or Children of God?
You say: "I am a servant of God." Slave means belonging. If I had not wanted it, none of you would have appeared. No one would have taken a single breath or drunk a single sip of water in this world. And since you appeared, it is only by my will, by my desire, and by my love.
Therefore, my ideal is your happiness and your love. But not the kind I impose on you as a paradise you do not want, but as a result of your free choice.
And are we slaves or children of God? It is one and the same. Only a view from different sides. A slave is one who belongs to someone.
Can you imagine, perhaps or not, that in ancient times a slave owner could be a kind person? Then how would he treat his slaves? Like a father. But he might not be.
And I am love. Imagine that.
And what does it mean to be a slave of love? One who is completely submitted to love, who carries out its orders. What kind of person is that? Loving, full of love.
Imagine that you are not a slave to your passions, not a slave to your desires, not a slave to your ego. But you are a slave of God. This is a very honorable title.
You are, after all, not a slave to sin, but a slave to righteousness. Imagine!
Service and Selflessness
Have you heard the expression "slave to money" or "slave to one's desires"? Whom does it serve? Whom does it serve?
And whom does the slave of God serve? God. A servant. So, a slave of God means a servant of God. And moreover, a servant who expects nothing in return. A selfless servant. One who serves out of love.
Is There Choice for Consciousnesses at the Twenty-Fourth Level?
Yes, of course. Choices exist for everyone. Even for me.
I am no one's slave or servant. But I can serve you with my love by my own choice. And I make this choice voluntarily. No one deprives me of my choice.
Can I stop loving you and destroy you? I can. In an instant. But I do not make that choice. That is also my free choice.
Gratitude and Conclusion
I send to every soul here the light of my love and gratitude for manifesting me in yourselves. And I bless you to carry my light to the whole world, to the entire universe.
Be happy.
Part 2. Spiritual-Psychological, Religious-Studies, Cultural, and Historiosophical Essay-Study (Thought Experiment)
Introduction
Based on the premise that this contact is real, what we have before us is not merely a religious sermon nor a philosophical treatise in the classical sense. This is a Gnostic revelation that attempts to reconsider the very ontology of the divine. Unlike classical dogmas, where God often appears as judge, lawgiver, or an abstract "prime mover," here the Absolute appears as a psychological entity suffering from loneliness and striving for connection.
This text radically changes the "God-Creator" paradigm. If in Abrahamic religions creation is an act of omnipotence and goodness, here it is an act of need. This brings this cosmology closer to the ideas of Platonism (Eros as a striving for completion) and Neoplatonism (emanation as necessity), but adds a powerful psychotherapeutic aspect: divine loneliness is healed through a multitude of free wills.
Below I offer a detailed commentary on each key statement of the Absolute, examining it through the lens of world religious and philosophical traditions.
Commentary on Statement 1: "I am everything in everything. I am the primordial being of consciousness"
What is new: Unlike the Abrahamic God who says "I AM THAT I AM" (Exodus 3:14) and remains transcendent, here the Absolute emphasizes its immanence. It is not "above" the world but "in everything." This is a pantheistic or panentheistic approach, characteristic of Hinduism (Brahman) and Kabbalah (Ein Sof). However, the novelty lies in that the Absolute defines itself not as "being" but as "consciousness, mind, feelings, and spiritual heart." This is anthropomorphism of the highest order: God is not merely rational but emotional and feeling.
Commentary: In Christianity, God is Love (1 John 4:8), but love is understood as an attribute. Here love is not an attribute but a structure of being. The Absolute does not "possess" love; it "is" love. This brings this teaching closer to mystical Christianity (Meister Eckhart: "God is being") but with an emphasis on the sensory nature of the divine.
Commentary on Statement 2: "You can become me, but you cannot give birth to spirits"
What is new: In Christianity, theosis (deification) is assimilation to God by grace, but not by essence. Here it is directly stated that man is potentially equal to God ("in all else, you are potentially equal to me"). However, a fundamental limitation is introduced: the birth of a new free will is the prerogative only of the Absolute. Created worlds will be populated by thought-forms, not living souls.
Commentary: This is a unique solution to the problem of theodicy. If evil exists due to free will, then God, creating thought-forms, creates a world without evil, but also without genuine life. Life is possible only where there is a risk of disobedience. This echoes the theology of Irenaeus of Lyons, who said that man must pass through the experience of good and evil to become mature. But here this principle is elevated to an ontological law: authentic existence is possible only as a free choice.
Commentary on Statement 3: "When I was alone, my love was needed by no one, and that means it is no longer love"
What is new: Classical theology asserts that God is self-sufficient and does not need creation. Creation is a free act of goodness, not a filling of a lack. Here, however, the Absolute directly admits that loneliness was a problem for it. Love that has no object ceases to be love.
Commentary: This is a radical anthropomorphism that makes God "needy" of man. This recalls the concept of "God needs man" in Nikolai Berdyaev and some Kabbalistic schools (Lurianic Kabbalah: Tzimtzum — God's self-limitation for the creation of the world). However, here the motive is not self-limitation but an existential need. This makes the relationship between God and man not a hierarchy of master and servant, but a dialogue between two "lonelinesses" that find each other.
Commentary on Statement 4: "This manvantara is the test of love"
What is new: In Hindu cosmology, manvantaras are cycles of existence of the universe, each with its own characteristics. But they are usually described as the "Golden Age," "Silver Age," etc. Here a qualitative characteristic is given: this is a test. Matter is so dense that love is difficult to discern. This is not merely time but an examination.
Commentary: This brings this cosmology closer to Abrahamic linear eschatology (time as a path to salvation) but retains the cyclical structure of Eastern teachings. The uniqueness lies in that the meaning of the cycle is not in accumulating merit but in testing the quality of love under conditions of density. This is a psychological interpretation of the cosmos.
Commentary on Statement 5: "Memory is blocked, but experience remains in the spirit"
What is new: In Buddhism, there is no eternal soul, but a stream of experiences. In Hinduism, there is atman, but it is unchanging. Here the soul preserves an energetic trace of experience but is not conscious of it. This is similar to the theory of imprints (samskaras) in yoga, but with the addition that the goal is not to get rid of them but to manifest love in different conditions.
Commentary: The meaning of reincarnation here is not in karmic retribution but in enriching God through the diversity of experience. God is not omniscient in the sense that he knows everything, but he has not experienced everything. For love to be complete, it must be lived in all forms. This is a justification of suffering: suffering is not punishment but an opportunity to manifest love where it is hardest to manifest.
Commentary on Statement 6: "Faith determines reality"
What is new: Classical Christianity speaks of faith as trust in God and confidence in the unseen. Here faith is an act of creation. The mental image you believe in becomes reality. This is not merely a psychological effect but an ontological law.
Commentary: This fully corresponds to modern transpersonal psychological concepts (e.g., "Reality Transurfing" by Vadim Zeland) but elevates them to a divine rank. God does not merely observe; he sanctions this law. This makes man a co-creator at the level of thought. However, there is a subtle trap here: if faith determines reality, then belief in an illusion makes it real, which gives birth to a hell created by man himself.
Commentary on Statement 7: "Free will is not knowing the consequences"
What is new: In classical theology, free will is the ability to choose between good and evil. Here freedom is defined epistemically: you are free because you do not know the future. If you knew, your choice would be predetermined by knowledge.
Commentary: This is a brilliant resolution of the paradox of divine omniscience and human freedom. God knows but does not reveal the knowledge. His silence is an act of love, not indifference. Freedom is not merely a choice but a risk that God consciously accepts so that the choice is genuine.
Commentary on Statement 8: "Slavery of love is the highest freedom"
What is new: The Apostle Paul wrote: "For you are not under law, but under grace" (Romans 6:14), and "servant of Christ" is an honorable title. But here it is reinterpreted in an existential key: slavery of love means the complete absence of internal conflict. You do not struggle with yourself because your will completely coincides with the will of love.
Commentary: This state is described in Buddhism as "nirvana" (cessation of desires), in Christianity as "holiness." However, here an important nuance is added: this state is not imposed. God says: "I can stop loving you and destroy you, but I do not do this. This is my free choice." This means that even God lives in a state of "slavery of love": he serves man not by compulsion but by voluntary choice.
Commentary on Statement 9: "The ideal world is where my laws are fulfilled"
What is new: In Abrahamic religions, the law of God is commandments, a moral code. Here "laws" are not rules but principles of love. The ideal world is not a place but a state where everyone freely chooses love.
Commentary: This is a description of the "Kingdom of Heaven" as a society where freedom is not abolished but coincides with love. This is impossible in the material world because matter creates inertia, fear, and selfishness. Therefore, "Paradise" is located "outside all worlds." This is a Gnostic motif: matter is not evil, but it is an obstacle that must be overcome to return to the original state of unity.
Commentary on Statement 10: "Chakras of the Earth are points of energy exchange"
What is new: The idea that the planet is a living organism exists in many cultures (Gaia). But the specific localization of chakras (Altai, Giza, Kailash, Moscow, Crimea, Washington, Rome, Delhi, Jerusalem, Peru, etc.) is a unique geopolitical and sacred map.
Commentary: This map has profound historiosophical significance. The centers are not located in economically or militarily significant points (except Washington and Moscow) but in places of ancient civilizations and natural anomalies. This suggests that spiritual geography does not coincide with political geography. The meaning of chakras is not to manage the planet but to exchange energy with the cosmos. This makes each such place not a point of power but a point of service.
Concluding Summary
As a thought experiment, this contact represents a unique synthesis of Eastern (Hindu-Buddhist) cosmology, Western (Gnostic) soteriology, and modern (transpersonal) psychology. The novelty lies in the following:
God is not omniscient in a subjective sense: he knows everything but has not experienced everything, so creation is a way to experience love through the freedom of others.
Suffering is justified not as punishment but as a condition: love manifests only where there is choice, and choice is possible only where there is a risk of error.
Freedom is not an attribute but a gift: God consciously deprives himself of the ability to intervene so that choice can be genuine.
The ideal is not a place but a state: Paradise is not a location but the coincidence of human will and the will of the Absolute.
Man is not a servant but a partner: the ultimate goal is not merely to be "saved" but to become a co-creator, albeit with a limitation (not giving birth to spirits).
This teaching removes the traditional tension between divine sovereignty and human freedom, offering a model of dialogue where both parties voluntarily choose love. This makes religion not a system of prohibitions but a school of relationships, where God is not a judge but a Teacher who waits for the student to grow.
Thus, the "Slavery of Love" turns out to be the highest form of freedom, because it is a state in which service becomes joy, and joy becomes the meaning of existence.
Original Essay-Study: "Slavery of Love" as a School of Inner Maturity
Fundamental Spiritual-Psychological Essay-Study Inspired by the Session in Egypt
Introduction: Before Us Is Not Cosmology, But a Pedagogy of Consciousness
If read superficially, this session looks like another esoteric picture of the world: the Absolute, levels of spirit, the Higher Self, reincarnation, Earth's chakras, karma, vibrations. But upon closer reading, it becomes clear that its true center is not the structure of the universe but the restructuring of the human psyche. Almost all the major themes of the conversation — free will, faith, love, the Creator's loneliness, misunderstanding between people, pride, love of money, intuition — converge on one point: what it means to become a being capable of loving without consuming, seeing without violence, and choosing without internal disintegration.
That is precisely why the expression "slavery of love" sounds here not as a religious archaism but as a paradoxical formula of maturity. In ordinary psychological vocabulary, freedom is understood as the expansion of options, the removal of limitations, the right to say "no." In the logic of this session, freedom is interpreted more deeply: as the ability not to be a slave to one's own narrowness. Then it turns out that a person can have many external options and yet remain a prisoner of fear, self-admiration, resentment, greed, the desire for power, or the need to constantly protect their fragile "I." In this light, "slavery of love" is not a loss of freedom but liberation from inner fragmentation.
1. The Central Theme of the Session: Love as the Ability to Withstand the Freedom of Another
One of the strongest lines throughout the conversation is that love is defined here not through emotion and not even through attachment, but through acceptance of the freedom of another being. The Absolute, according to the text, creates not mechanical executors but beings that can even go against their Source. This means: love is conceived not as possession and not as programming good, but as an agreement to exist alongside another's freedom, including the risk of rejection, misunderstanding, and fall.
Psychologically, this is a radical idea. Most human dramas arise precisely where love is replaced by control. A parent wants not the child's wellbeing but obedience. A partner wants not intimacy but guarantees. A teacher wants not the student's growth but confirmation of their own rightness. Even a religious person often wants not God but certainty that their life will be protected from chaos. The session turns this schema around: true love begins where the subject stops making the other an extension of their own will. In this perspective, maturity is not "being good" but the ability not to destroy another's freedom for one's own peace of mind.
This is followed by an unusual image of the Creator. He is not just omnipotent but, if we accept the internal logic of the text, self-limiting in love. Not because he cannot intervene, but because intervention would destroy the value of a free response. In a therapeutic sense, this is a very important image: maturity is determined not by total action but by the ability not to intrude where intrusion would diminish another.
2. "Slavery of Love" as the Flip Side of Inner Integrity
Usually the word "slavery" evokes associations with humiliation, subordination, loss of dignity. However, in the session the term is reinterpreted. A slave of love is not a broken person but a person whose will no longer oscillates between incompatible impulses. They are not a slave to money, not a slave to the desire to please, not a slave to vengefulness, not a slave to the fear of being left without support. They "belong" to love in the sense that a compass belongs to the north: not by compulsion but by inner attunement.
There is a profound psychological intuition hidden here. It is not the one who has a center who is unfree, but the one who has no center. When a person lives from reaction to reaction, from trigger to trigger, from praise to resentment, from fear to compensation, they experience themselves as "free" only because they have no stable inner law. But in reality, such freedom is chaotic and dependent: it constantly needs an external stimulus, an external enemy, an external temptation, an external spectator. On the contrary, "slavery of love" in the logic of the session is a state in which a person is not torn apart. They are not forced to reinvent goodness each time, because their inner vector has already formed.
Therefore, the formula "servant of God" here is closer not to a politics of subordination but to the phenomenon of existential fidelity. It is fidelity not to an institution, not to the fear of punishment, and not even to a doctrine, but to that highest tuning of consciousness in which a person no longer wants to turn another into a means of self-assertion.
3. Evil in This Session Is Understood Not as a Monster but as a Narrowing of the Ray of Love
Particularly nontrivial is the way the session describes the lower states of the spirit. Pride, greed, selfishness, manipulation, exploitation of another — all of these are interpreted not as independent substances but as deformations in the direction of love. Love does not disappear entirely; it contracts, narrows, ceases to flow outward and begins to serve only the "I."
This is a very powerful model for spiritual psychology. It allows for the rejection of the primitive scheme "good people love, bad people don't." No, says the session material: a bad state is also a form of love, but love that is compressed, frightened, looped back on itself. Love of money is not simply love for things but an attempt to create a substitute for trust. Pride is not simply arrogance but armor against vulnerability. Manipulation is not only the desire to control but also protection from experiencing one's own pain. Even cruelty here is implied as a loss of the ability to withstand another's subjectivity.
Such an approach is important because it makes spiritual work less punitive and more precise. If evil is contraction, then the task is not only condemnation but expansion. Not to stick a label of "low level" on a person but to recognize where exactly their life energy has stopped circulating. This brings the session closer to depth psychotherapy: the symptom here is not just a mistake but a survival strategy that was once needed but has now become a prison.
4. Why People Don't Understand Each Other: The Problem Is Not Words but Spiritual Acoustics
One of the most mature ideas in the session is its explanation of human misunderstanding. The text claims that people can use the same words but hear completely different things in them. The reason is not only cultural differences and not only personal experience but the different "tuning" of consciousness. What one calls love, another perceives as a threat; what one means by freedom, another experiences as abandonment; what for one is acceptance, for another sounds like weakness.
This observation has great psychological precision. Most conflicts are built not on differences in facts but on differences in internal dictionaries. A person raised in fear hears the advice "open up" as a call to disarm. A person accustomed to emotional hunger hears "I accept you" as a trap. A person with a narcissistic personality organization may hear love as admiration, not as a meeting of equals.
The session offers for this not abstract tolerance but a special discipline of perception: to speak to a person at the level at which they are able to hear. This does not mean lying or indulging. This means abandoning spiritual vanity, in which a person revels in their own "truth" without noticing that their truth helps no one. At this point, the session unexpectedly becomes a school of hermeneutics: truth without a form accessible to the recipient turns into another act of the speaker's self-assertion.
5. Faith and Imagination: The Session Offers a Bold Psychology of Reality
The line about faith as a force that shapes reality may seem like a typical esoteric thesis. But if we extract it from simplifications, serious psychological depth is revealed. In the text, imagination is not empty fantasy but a preliminary laboratory of existence. The spirit, even before experience, builds mental forms, desires, expectations, images; a person in incarnation does the same — only now unconsciously, constantly shaping the world through what they internally believe.
This can be read as metaphysics, or as subtle anthropology. We indeed live not only in objective reality but also in interpreted reality. The same action by a loved one becomes for one person proof of unloving, for another — a consequence of fatigue, for a third — a reason for dialogue. The event is one, the worlds are different. Faith here is not magic of wish fulfillment but a matrix of meanings through which consciousness produces its destiny.
But the session goes further and warns of danger: if a mental construct is experienced as absolute reality, it captures the person entirely. This means a person can live not in the world but in their own suggestion — in resentment, suspicion, messianism, fear, grandiosity, a cult of poverty, or a cult of chosenness. This leads to an important conclusion: spiritual work consists not only in "dreaming correctly" but also in distinguishing revelation from projection.
6. The Higher Self and Intuition: The Path Is Not to Comfort but to Inner Wholeness
Particularly interesting in the session is the theme of intuition. The Higher Self is not described as a supplier of convenient solutions or a guarantor of safety. It leads a person "on the best path," but the best path is understood not as the most pleasant for the ego and not even as the most beneficial for the biography, but as the most fruitful for the development of the spirit.
This radically diverges from popular spiritual infantilism, where the "inner voice" should always lead to relief, confirmation of desires, and a harmonious scenario. In the logic of the session, genuine guidance can lead through loss, refusal, rupture, collapse of former identity, humiliation of pride, confrontation with one's own lack of independence. Intuition here is not a comfort service but a vertical of truth that often contradicts the horizontal logic of everyday calculation.
From a psychological point of view, this is a very mature model. It reminds us that inner guidance should be tested not by the criterion "it feels good to me" but by the criterion "am I becoming more whole, more honest, less dependent on a false self-image." Otherwise, any impulse can easily be mistaken for "the voice of the soul," when it might be the voice of fear, compensation, or an unconscious script.
7. The Loneliness of the Creator: One of the Most Powerful Anthropological Images of the Session
The theme of the Absolute's loneliness is perhaps the most dramatic node of the entire conversation. But its value lies not in the sensational claim of "divine need" but in that it introduces a new optic onto human existence. If love without an addressee ceases to be love, then the existence of another turns out not to be an obstacle to my being but a condition of its fullness.
For a modern culture obsessed with individualism, this is almost a countercultural thesis. We are constantly told that the highest goal is autonomy, self-sufficiency, independence from others' opinions and needs. The session does not cancel the value of an inner core but shows the limit of self-sufficiency: at its limit, it turns into ontological loneliness. A person can possess resources, knowledge, power, experience, inner discipline — and yet have no meaning if no one can truly enter their world and if their love cannot be given to anyone.
Here lies an extremely fruitful conclusion: maturity is not completion in oneself; maturity is the ability to be a source for another without turning the other into a dependent. That is why the theme of "making one independent" is so important in the session — love should not preserve infancy, even if it is pleasant to be needed.
8. Incarnations, Karma, and Role Changes: Not Accumulating Statuses but Expanding the Heart's Capacity
The fragments about the doctor and the Bedouin, about different conditions of birth, about memory blockage while preserving experience, point to an important idea: the value of life is determined not by linear growth of competencies but by the expansion of the ability to love in incommensurable circumstances.
From a modern perspective, this is almost an anti-career metaphysics. We are accustomed to thinking of evolution as ascent: more knowledge, more influence, more control, a higher level of complexity. But in the logic of the session, the spirit needs not only to "ascend" but also to become permeable to different human states. Being educated and being able to survive in the desert are different forms of engagement with reality. Being a subtle thinker and being able to accept primitive conditions without contempt are also different forms of maturity.
Such a view destroys spiritual snobbery. If experience is needed to expand the heart, then poverty, dependence, loss, the need to retrain, cultural humiliation, the loss of previous supports cease to be merely "lower" scenarios. They become zones where the spirit learns not superiority but capacity. In this sense, the session offers an ethic not of success but of anthropological comprehensiveness.
9. Earth and Its Chakras: The Symbolism of the World's Outer Body
The theme of Earth's chakras may seem incidental at first glance. But in the composition of the conversation, it plays an important role. Earth is described as a living energetic organism with nodal points of exchange with the cosmos. Regardless of whether one takes this literally or symbolically, the function of this image is clear: man is no longer thought of as a separate carrier of spirituality. Their inner structure is mirrored in the structure of the planet; microcosm and macrocosm are revealed as connected.
Psychologically, this acts as a way out of narcissistic closure. Modern man often lives as if their inner crises exist in a vacuum: body separate, psyche separate, landscape separate, history separate, cosmos separate. The session stitches these layers together. Giza as an area of "vision," Jerusalem as a zone of "voice," Moscow as a heart point, Altai and Mexico as higher centers — all of this creates a sacred cartography of consciousness where geography ceases to be just geography.
But the main point is not the enumeration of points but the principle itself: the world is not dead. And if the world is not dead, spiritual life ceases to be a purely private experience of the individual. It becomes a matter of participation in a larger network of exchange. Then love is not just a moral virtue but a form of energetic and ontological coherence with the broader body of being.
10. The Practical Ethics of the Session: Love Does Not Equal Softness
One of the most valuable aspects of this text is its attempt to hold love and boundaries together. In the conversation, the thought is expressed several times that love does not always mean leaving everything as it is. Sometimes a manifestation of love can be a decision that outwardly appears harsh: refusing to indulge lack of independence, ending a destructive scenario, distancing, honestly naming the truth.
This is a crucial spiritual-psychological point. Many people, especially those with rejection trauma, conflate love with endless availability. It seems to them that if they set a boundary, they cease to be kind. The session offers a different formula: love is what helps another become more authentic, not more dependent. Consequently, sometimes the highest form of acceptance is not to save another from the consequences of their choice and not to substitute their maturation with one's own care.
Even more subtly, the session suggests a way of speaking with a person who is acting destructively. What matters is not only the meaning but also the manner of delivery: first see the pain from which they are acting; then do not play into their game; then speak the truth without the desire to humiliate. This is almost a ready-made model of nonviolent spiritual influence: not to justify evil, but not to feed it with retaliatory hatred either.
11. The Criterion of Spirituality Here Is Unexpectedly Strict: Not Ecstasy but the Trace You Leave in Your Neighbors
Perhaps the most sober thesis of the session is the proposal to judge spiritual development not by inner experiences, not by mystical images, not by beautiful words, and not by belonging to the "right" teaching, but by what those close to the person feel. If next to a "spiritually developed" person others feel cold, scared, cramped, ashamed, or humiliated — then the development is either illusory or deeply distorted.
This is a very strong antidote to spiritual narcissism. Any spirituality that has not passed the test of relationships risks being merely a refined form of self-deception. A person can speak of vibrations, channels, awareness, mission, past lives, and the Higher Self — and yet be unbearable to those who live with them. Then all their "height" is exposed by a simple question: has there been more life alongside them?
At this point, the session achieves almost Gospel simplicity: the spirit is known not by declarations but by fruits. Only here the fruit is understood very concretely — as the atmospheric quality of presence.
Conclusion: From Possession to Participation
If all the lines of the session are brought together, an unexpectedly coherent picture emerges. Its core is not proof of the structure of heavenly levels and not a catalog of sacred geography. Its core is the transition from a psychology of possession to a psychology of participation. To possess means to make everything a continuation of oneself: partner, knowledge, spirituality, money, truth, even God. To participate means to enter into a connection where the other remains other, the world remains alive, and love does not require a guarantee of return.
Then "slavery of love" can be reformulated anew: it is a state in which a person voluntarily refuses to live from the center of fear and begins to live from the center of co-participation. They no longer build their identity on superiority, control, or security. They allow love to become the main principle of discernment: what expands life and what constricts it; what makes another a subject and what turns them into a resource; what comes from trust and what from panic.
In such a reading, the session turns out to be not so much an esoteric message about the mysteries of the universe but a project of spiritual maturity. Its main challenge is not whether we believe in Earth's chakras, levels of spirit, or the Egyptian retreat. The main challenge is different: are we ready to acknowledge that love is not a feeling of comfort but the work of expanding consciousness to the measure where another's freedom ceases to be a threat and becomes a space for encounter.
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#919 Conference with the Absolute, Questions from Participants of the Retreat in Egypt. Earth's Chakras. "Slavery of Love."
00:00 Video start.
00:27 Excerpts from the conference.
"...Therefore, all religions, all prophets, all spiritual teachers lead to Me through their own prism. But only if the Spirit itself works on raising its vibrations, its awareness, developing Love in its Spiritual Heart, and does not become complacent with the thought that 'if I am in the right religion, then I don't need anything else.' Then, on the contrary, it degrades and falls even lower than it was before religion.
Therefore, if you feel that you are already spiritually developed, but those close to you are suffering from your selfishness, this is not spiritual development—this is self-deception. To find out whether you are spiritually developed or not, ask those close to you: 'What do you feel from me?'..."
"...Or having already learned in this life to connect with your Higher Self and communicate with it while in the body. Then, if you turn to your Higher Self every day and ask about the consequences of your choices, and ask your Higher Self to guide you, it will intuitively send you an answer. If you follow that answer, despite the arguments of reason and other people, it will always lead you along the best path for you.
Again, best for what? For your spiritual development. But this does not at all mean that your temporary personality, your Soul, will like this choice. These can be completely different things. Do you understand what I'm saying?.."
02:20 Introduction. Maxim's story about the first conference with extraterrestrials.
Maxim: (introducing Irina) The "party's gold," as I now call the person I found who knows how to communicate with extraterrestrials and transmits information from them.
I invited all my friends there, and there were people from the administration, the prosecutor's office, the police department—my colleagues (I'm a lawyer by first education)—and they all came to the conference. After an hour, 50% of the people left the conference with the words: "Maxim has lost his mind, he's smoked himself stupid, drunk himself stupid, and apparently he's doing it together with this woman." To the remaining fifty percent, Irina talked about her contacts and how she does all this.
And at the very last moment, the very last hour of the session, we had a conference scheduled with representatives of the Interstellar Union. We invited a Tashigan, a Burhad, a Tumesout. But I, in principle, already knew all these names, and for me, as a person who had just come into contact with this, it was something unreal. And I wanted to give people this unreality so that they could finally feel this unreality of everything that was happening. And I was waiting for this conference. I waited for Irina to finish, and then I would say: "Dear friends, now you can ask your questions." And I thought that now they would ask: "Where did the universe come from? Who is the Absolute? Where is Andromeda, is there life there?"
Do you know what the first question was after I said "you can ask your questions"? Five representatives of extraterrestrial civilizations, a contactee, and I'm sitting there all tense, waiting for what questions they're going to ask now. I thought: "Now they'll get an answer! Right the way I felt it." And a woman raises her hand, an acquaintance of mine. Do you know what the first question was? "Why did my dacha burn down?" I sat down like this and thought: "Now that's a question!" Extraterrestrials, five civilizations! And—"why did my dacha burn down?"
But you know, the answer was so profound and so interesting. I think it was Raom Tiyan who answered. I don't remember who answered, but it was one of our representatives, and he conveyed information to this woman from her Guardian Angel. And he told her a very interesting thing. He said: "Do you remember the moment when your dacha caught fire?" She replied: "I remember." He clarified: "And where were you?" – "In the outdoor toilet." – "And who led you out of the house?" And she thought about it. And then she started sobbing and said: "I remembered that situation—it was as if someone picked me up and led me to the toilet." It was her Guardian Angel who saved her. And after she realized that she could have burned in that house and died at that moment, her disappointment about why her dacha burned down disappeared.
In fact, everything has its karmic consequences. All the energies that were formed in space through a destructive perception of reality eventually end up being eliminated in various forms. So, the dacha was earned through dishonest means—I'm speaking conditionally. And the Angel also hinted at this, also told about it. In short, everyone understood everything, and she sobbed until the end of the conference. And after that, I don't tell people anymore: "Ask correct and proper questions."
There is no such thing as a "correct and proper question." The truth is that the simplest question that a person has been waiting for an answer to all their life, they won't ask it because they'll be told: "Ask a correct question." So ask any questions.
06:39 About conferences with the Absolute.
Maxim: And about today's conference, you know, I'll tell you another frank thing. People asked me: "Let's do a broadcast with Father-Absolute." I said: "How can you make contact with the One who is everywhere, and everything is the Absolute?! How can you make contact with everything?" And then some people started writing to me—and on the same day, five or six people wrote, just out of the blue: "We want contact with the Absolute." I went up to Irina and said: "Irina, I don't know what to do. Is it possible to make contact with the Absolute?" She replied: "It's possible." I said: "How?" She said: "Very simply, you don't even need to go into contact with Him; He is everywhere and always."
And when we did the first conference with the Absolute, I realized that each of us is in contact with Him through our Higher Self.
Irina: Yes, exactly.
Maxim: It's just that this everyday routine has overcome us so much, this constant running after money, relationships, relatives, someone else, and we constantly owe something to someone, we keep working off this debt, working it off, working it off. And then we end up in the Spiritual World and breathe a sigh of relief: "There! We've worked it off!"
Sergey, did you want to say something?
Sergey: Yes. You just answered a big question—why the pyramids were built. To get away from the routine.
Maxim: Yes, yes. There is a concept in psychology: when your head hurts from questions, you need to keep your hands busy. Yes, when your hands are busy, your head is freed from questions, and the person begins to rest and feel calm. So I think there was a lot of money, and their heads were full of what to do with it. And so they came up with how to be closer to the gods through money—they invested their funds in drawing closer to the gods. So I believe that everyone develops and spends money as best they can.
Irina: I remember that after the conference with the Absolute, many people wrote to me: "When questions were being asked to the Absolute and you started answering, the answer came to me before your words, and then you said the same thing." That is, many heard this answer within themselves, because the Absolute can speak to everyone simultaneously.
Maxim: Yes, this is an Eternal Spatial Infinity that is everywhere and in everything.
So the Absolute brought Elena to us. Now Elena will be the main one with the Absolute. Absolute Elena, have a seat.
09:36 Does the Absolute understand humor?
Irina: We have a conference with the Absolute, not with the spirit of Absolut vodka. (everyone laughs) Well, is it funny? Yes, with the One who created this world and gave birth to us. A very interesting question: do you think the Absolute understands humor?
Voice from the audience: Of course. I think He's the most humorous. Really. No?
Irina: He understands everything. Because He is outside of time and space. It's very interesting: I also asked Him questions about the future, but for Him all these options exist simultaneously.
Voice from the audience: Can I ask a question? We strive for God, we are His children, and is He someone's child? Does He strive for something greater than Himself?
Maxim: Wait one second. You're asking a question, and I'll repeat it into the microphone.
Irina: Can anyone hear me at all?
Voice from the audience: Have we started already?
Maxim: Yes, we're already recording. You ask the question, I repeat it so it can be heard through the microphone, and then Irina answers. So we'll have a double question.
10:51 What does the Absolute strive for?
Voice from the audience: I have a question. We all strive for God, we are His children. Is the Absolute someone's child? What or whom does He strive for? Is there such a being or something higher than Him?
Maxim: Absolute, we are Your children. We strive to be like You, we grow toward You. Do You have someone toward whom You grow? And is there anyone higher than You?
Irina (Father-Absolute): I greet you, My children! I am All in All. I am the Original Being of consciousness, mind, feelings, and Spiritual Heart. And there is no one higher than Me in the sense that you put into it. I am one, and you are My particles, My parts, and we are all united in our Light.
(Irina) Now I'll translate the answer: there is no such being.
Maxim: He is one in everything, and you are His part. You can immediately see that everyone prepared their questions.
12:06 How is Father-Absolute different from His children?
Question from the audience: Maxim, I heard your conversation just now with one of the participants. She asked her question, you answered, I heard it and thought I'd ask later. Maybe now would be the right time. We all strive for the Absolute, we are His particles, but then we create our own worlds. And if there are many of us, then there are also an infinite number of worlds? Is there any limit then?
Maxim: Let's ask it differently. Let's split the question into two parts. First part: dear Absolute, we, Your children, when we grow, can we ultimately reach the level of Your state and create our own worlds?
Irina (Father-Absolute): You can.
Maxim: We can. Second question.
Voice from the audience: And the second question. We are constantly being born. So if we reach the level where each of us reaches Your level and creates their own worlds, will that be an infinite number?
Maxim: I understand. Dear Absolute, please tell me, You give birth to us in Eternity and Infinity, and in this manvantara there are a huge number of us born. And can each of us reach Your level and create our own world, in which there will be the same kind of Spirits? And in this world, for this world, can I call myself the Absolute?
Irina (Father-Absolute): You cannot give birth to other Spirits.
Maxim: But we can create worlds.
Irina (Father-Absolute): The living beings with which you can populate your worlds will be your thought-forms. But they will differ from you in that you have freedom, while they will not—they will be exactly as you want to create them. And you are not always as I want to see you, because you have freedom. And I, as the Almighty Creator, placed freedom in you—I can create a being that goes against Me.
Maxim: So it turns out that we can conditionally become Absolutes, but we cannot put a living Soul into those beings, into those worlds that we create?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes. Because I am the Original Source, and you are born by Me.
14:27 How to become like the Absolute?
Maxim: So we can never become Absolutes in order to create from ourselves, to give birth to Souls?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Not in the way I do. You can simply become like Me, and when I give birth to other Spirits, you can do it together with Me, just as happens with those who are on the 24th spiritual level. We are one with them, and when I give birth to a Soul, they give birth to it together with Me.
Maxim: So it turns out that we are one in the Spiritual World, and when You give birth to a Soul, at a high level we give birth to that Soul together with You. That is, we are a part of You, and that Soul that is born is a part of both of us—You and me.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And of all Spirits who are on the 24th level and above.
Voice from the audience: So this is a process of co-creation?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): When you merge with Me, we have a single consciousness, and My mind becomes your mind. But your mind does not disappear—it expands to My limits, or rather, to My Boundlessness. And when I give birth to a Spirit, the one who has united with Me feels and senses that he is giving birth himself.
Voice from the audience: Because it's one whole.
Maxim: Yes, thank you. Very interesting.
16:02 The unity of all higher Spirits.
Irina: I have a question that arose in me. I'll ask it now. How do you like this question? And all the Spirits who reach the 24th level and merge with You—do they also unite with other Spirits on the 24th level?
How do you like the question?
Maxim: Good question.
Irina: Interesting?
Maxim: Interesting.
Irina: Absolute, Heavenly Father, do they unite...
(Father-Absolute) "Unite" is not the right word; it's for the material world. All of this becomes Me, all of this becomes a single being. At the same time, these Spirits do not lose the memory of their experiences of life in different worlds and at different levels, even those that were lower. These Spirits preserve such memory, and despite this, they feel themselves one with Me, and therefore with all who have reached this level.
That is, the memory of all levels that were, and of all lives when they lived outside the Kingdom of Heaven, not on the 24th level, is preserved. But at the same time, upon reaching this level, the Spirit really feels itself to be God—simply a God who had other lives, material incarnations. While I Myself, as a Spirit, have not incarnated—you are the ones who incarnate. And the one who reaches the 24th level feels himself to be God, the Absolute, but at the same time remembers his incarnations.
The only difference is that I am always like this—I have never incarnated, never undergone any experiences, I am outside time, outside space, and possess all knowledge, all information—I simply have nothing to learn. I knew all the experiences of the material world even before the creation of material worlds, because I am outside time and can know them all in one instant. And therefore I have no need to experience them as you do. I have no need to incarnate into the material world to change my level or to test myself on the path to Light. Because I am not born, while you are born—that is the only difference. In all other respects, you are potentially all equal to Me.
19:01 Why does the Absolute know Himself?
Maxim: So You have such an interesting game—to give birth to Yourself from Yourself, in order to know Yourself within Yourself.
Irina (Father-Absolute): So that every particle of Mine may know Me within itself.
Maxim: Well yes, that's what I said. To give birth to Yourself from Yourself, in order to know Yourself within Yourself.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And I know everything, everyone, and all minds of all.
(Irina) He shows that He possesses perfection in knowledge.
(Father-Absolute) You are learning, but I did not learn. I know everything from the beginning.
Question from the audience: Why does He need such a game?
Maxim: Why did You need the form of creating Yourself from Yourself, in order to comprehend Yourself?
Irina (Father-Absolute): In order to manifest Love for you. When I was alone, without the existence of you within Me, I felt that My Love was not needed by anyone, and therefore it was no longer Love. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): My essence is Love. And the essence of Love is the birth of another, of others, to fill you with life, possibilities, Light, Truth, Love, and to make you happy—or rather, to give you the opportunity to become happy yourselves. I can make anyone happy, but that happiness will not be appreciated by you as your own, and therefore there would be no meaning in it.
20:58 The reason for the existence of Being.
Maxim: Ask your question.
Voice from the audience: I wanted to add something. What is the ultimate outcome, if there is one?
Maxim: What is all this for?
Irina (Father-Absolute): What exactly?
Maxim: I'll explain what exactly. Is all this needed in order to give Your Love to a particle of Yourself that is free in its choice?
Irina (Father-Absolute): I need to explain a little figuratively. Imagine yourself—you, you, anyone. Imagine yourself in a Universe where there is everything, all the abundance of all blessings, but you are there alone. What would you feel there?
Maxim: Bored.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why?
Maxim: Because everything is already there.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And why can't you be satisfied with what is there?
Maxim: Why can't I be satisfied with what is there?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Imagine: you have a whole world, a whole Earth (let's start with Earth), it has everything—apartments, cars, computers, money, absolutely everything is left, but all the people have disappeared, you're alone. What would you feel?
Maxim: No one to share with how great I am. (laughs)
Irina (Father-Absolute): Share with yourself.
Maxim: No, sharing with myself is not interesting—I need to share with someone.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And why with someone?
Maxim: Because when I share with someone, I give my energy to another person.
Irina (Father-Absolute): What kind?
Maxim: Of joy, happiness, Love, conditionally speaking.
Irina (Father-Absolute): There. Because you are like Me. Therefore you couldn't live alone on Earth for long. But that's only on Earth—what if you were alone in the entire Galaxy?
Maxim: So all this is needed so that You can know Yourself, and we can know ourselves?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Do you need a world all to yourself?
Maxim: No.
Irina (Father-Absolute): (addressing the audience) And you? And you? Everything has disappeared, you're alone. Do you need a world all to yourself?
Maxim: Maybe Lena needs it? Lena, if you had everything—whatever you wanted, you would have it?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Only there would be no people.
Maxim: Yes. Those little people wouldn't be around. (laughter in the audience)
Irina (Father-Absolute): Let's imagine: you wake up—there's no one, the streets are empty...
Elena: Can I answer a little differently? A person just appeared in this room, and he wanted to ask a question about knowing oneself. There is my microcosm, and another person—he has his own microcosm...
Irina (Father-Absolute): And imagine that you have no children, absolutely no one on Earth—do you need such a world?
Elena: No, I don't need it.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why?
Elena: Because I want (unintelligible).
Irina (Father-Absolute): And imagine that you have enough warmth, food, all pleasures, but no people.
Elena: That's purely the physical level.
Irina (Father-Absolute): There. And the metaphysical is the spiritual. Do you need a world with no one?
Answer from the audience: No.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And you?
Answer from the audience: No.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And you?
Answer from the audience: No.
Irina (Father-Absolute): No one needs it. Why? Or maybe someone does need it? Raise your hand, I want to see such a person. Just imagine: you wake up in the morning... I'll now show you figuratively what loneliness is.
Maxim: We've already understood, we agree, we don't want to be alone.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Look: you wake up in the morning...
Maxim: This is terrible!
Irina (Father-Absolute): There's an unusual silence.
Maxim: Even to hate someone, you need someone. (laughter in the audience)
Irina (Father-Absolute): Because hatred is a lack of Love. And when you hate someone, you feel and sense this feeling as a signal that you need to develop Love. To put it very figuratively, hatred manifests from Love for hatred. This is also a form of Love. Do you understand what I mean?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Accordingly, there is also Love for a certain feeling.
So you wake up, go outside—cars are standing, houses are empty, full of property, all doors are open. You walk around—not a single person, take whatever you want. Would you be happy?
Elena: No.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why?
Elena: I don't need it.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why?
Elena: Because I'd have no one to give it to.
Irina (Father-Absolute): There!
Maxim: After this question, the conference is over, everyone go home. No more questions.
Irina: Zhenya, what about you? Would you need a world with no one?
Evgeny: I think the first month would be fine, but then that's it.
Maxim: What would you do without Natalya in this world?
Voices from the audience: The first month, he said, would be fine... (laughter in the audience)
Irina (Father-Absolute): A month?
Voices from the audience: Yes.
Maxim: The first month would be fine: you can spend everything on yourself.
Irina (Father-Absolute): I can construct a mental world where each of you would find yourself in the conditions I described. I know each of you—your actions, your Soul, and your Spirit's state. And I can say that all of you here present would already by the end of the first day begin making active attempts to find others like yourselves. None of you would survive in sound mind for more than a week. You would start inventing characters, actors...
(Irina) What do you say?
Maxim: I remember the film "Robinson Crusoe" where he made a head out of a ball and started talking to it. I think Zhenya would also make himself a head and start talking to it.
Voice from the audience: He had Friday there.
Maxim: Robinson Crusoe had Friday, yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): That was about people. Now imagine a world without animals and insects, without anyone at all, only you. What do you feel?
Voice from the audience: It's the Sahara Desert, and you're alone.
Irina (Father-Absolute): But all the blessings are there.
Maxim: This is some kind of horror, a spiritual apocalypse!
Elena: Now I understand him perfectly.
27:38 The peculiarity of the current manvantara. How the Absolute creates manvantaras.
Maxim: Go ahead, Zhenya!
Evgeny: Absolute, tell me, You constantly create manvantaras. I'm curious, can you somehow specifically characterize our manvantara?
Maxim: I'll repeat the questions. Dear Absolute, You create various manvantaras, You live in this Infinity, You have 16 zeros after the decimal point—that many manvantaras. Can You somehow briefly characterize the manvantara in which we now live? What kind of manvantara is it compared to others that have existed in Your reality?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Each manvantara has a unique set of properties. To characterize the manvantara in which you live, it is a manvantara with a very dense state of matter, which began relatively recently in your time. And the Spirits who incarnate here have enormous potential to achieve all the goals you planned after the end of the previous manvantara.
After all, I give energy for the creation of the material world after I receive from you in all spiritual worlds and on all spiritual levels a general flow of desires for your incarnations. Then I release from Myself a special type of energy that becomes matter. And then this matter is modified by you, compacted several thousand times, as happened in this manvantara.
But if expressed in words that will be understandable to you, the characteristic of this manvantara is the test of Love—that is, the test of your feeling of Love. You test how much Love is in you, plunging into this matter again and again at different levels of density, and through this test you see Me in yourself and yourself in Me, and through this you rise to My home—the Kingdom of Heaven, to the place where I am.
Maxim: Thank you.
30:23 Are knowledge from past incarnations inherited in the next incarnation?
Maxim: Ask your question.
Question from the audience: I want to know about the evolution of the human personality. For example, we live, accumulate experience, accumulate professional knowledge, then we die and reincarnate. Is this experience of professionalism, erudition, learning inherited in another incarnation? Or can one be born into a poor Bedouin family and live a whole life without such experience?
Maxim: Is the experience of previous incarnations inherited in the next incarnation?
Voice from the audience: Experience, knowledge.
Maxim: Experience, knowledge?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Memory is blocked.
Voice from the audience: Then what is the point of human evolution, what is it for?
Irina (Father-Absolute): In the development of Love.
Maxim: Memory is blocked, but we do have tasks with which we come here, we have energies, we have karma.
Irina (Father-Absolute): That is not experience.
Maxim: It's not experience—we accumulate experience in this karma. But we do bring with us a particle of our Spirit, and in this particle of our Spirit there is part of the experience of previous incarnations, part of the energies we take from previous incarnations. We inscribe these energies into the material cell, incarnating in this physical space.
Irina (Father-Absolute): She asked about experience. About the experience of a scientist, right?
Answer from the audience: Let's say that. For example, a scientist, and then he is born into a poor African family.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And what is the question?
Answer from the audience: Then what is the point of this human evolution?
Irina (Father-Absolute): The Spirit manifests its Love differently in the body of a scientist and in the body of an African. By adapting to live and love in certain conditions, it develops its Spiritual Heart so that it can contain the entire Universe, all manifestations. Because if the Spirit had the opportunity for only one incarnation, it would not learn the experience of many thousands of bodies, and therefore would not be able to manifest itself through them.
Voice from the audience: So our evolution does not go in a spiral? It goes zigzag?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Evolution goes the way your Spirit chooses. You can choose to develop your spiritual qualities or not, or to develop carnal qualities that will lead you downward from Me, to where there is no Light—or rather, to where you don't see it. You can develop your ability to see Me in everyone around you, or develop the ability to see only yourself and see no one around?
Maxim: There's a catch in your question. The catch is that you say "human evolution." But a human being is both body and Spirit. The evolution of the Spirit is one thing, and the evolution of the body is another, but all of this is a manifestation of Love. And you combined spiritual evolution and physical evolution.
Because if we're talking about the physical evolution of the human race, of course it consists of accumulating this energy of Love, building it into DNA, and then carrying it further, conditionally speaking, changing that DNA—that's physical evolution. And there is spiritual evolution—when you, incarnating into different DNA, into different bodies, accumulate different spiritual qualities with which you can saturate your Spirit, and accordingly, the Absolute.
Irina (Father-Absolute): You say... Let's put it this way: there is a doctor, he has knowledge, he dies and is born into a Bedouin family. What does a Bedouin need a doctor's experience for? And can a doctor be a good Bedouin? He would already need to retrain, he would need to unlearn the conditions he was accustomed to. Do you understand what I'm saying? For example, he is used to cleanliness, but a Bedouin's hut may be dirty. And he may judge his parents for this dirt, may not take them seriously and not obey, and may not even accept the lessons that his parents would give him to teach him their craft.
A doctor cannot do thousands of things that an ordinary Bedouin in the desert can do—he hasn't learned them. Just as a Bedouin cannot be a doctor until he is taught. And this does not mean that one is easier than the other—they are simply different things. Can a doctor survive three days in the desert and find water there, or would he die of thirst? But a Bedouin can last even longer.
Maxim: He can "bedouin" around.
Irina (Father-Absolute): He can search for where an oasis is located, can orient himself by the cardinal directions, knows the properties of many plants, for example. He even knows how to breathe to conserve the water in his body.
Voice from the audience: So for our Higher Self, any experience is good?
Maxim: Yes, for our Higher Self, any experience is good.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why only for the Higher Self? For yourselves. You are one with your Higher Self, you are part of it. What is a part? A part cannot exist separately from the whole. You are simply connected to the physical body, while your Higher Self is in the Spiritual World, but you continue to constitute one Spirit.
When I transmit answers to Irina, I transmit them to her Spirit, and to her Higher Self, and to her Soul—there is no separation there. Therefore, I want to say: where you are now is the result of your choice, your karma, your activity in this world. The place where you were born, and the family where you were born, and the conditions where you were born—these are the result of your karma from past incarnations and your choice. Your parents are the Spirits who agreed to take care of you in this incarnation while your body is still growing. You had an agreement with them about this.
Any conditions of the material world are not chosen by chance. If a Spirit wishes to first learn how to live in one country or on one planet, and then on another, it does not do this by chance, but in order to manifest its divine qualities, which I have placed in them, in different conditions. Because through the manifestation of these qualities in different conditions, they grow, fill the entire Spiritual Heart, and eventually unite with Me.
38:17 The choice of spiritual level at birth from the Absolute.
Question from the audience: Absolute, tell me, when You give birth to a Soul, how does it determine at what stage what spiritual level it should enter? By what principle does this happen?
Maxim: Dear Absolute, when You give birth to a Soul, I know You answered that this is an eternal and infinite process, this birth happens constantly.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes.
Maxim: How does a Soul determine...
Irina (Father-Absolute): Spirit.
Maxim: How does the Spirit determine at what spiritual level it needs to initially appear in this infinite process of rebirth?
Irina (Father-Absolute): It has a mind—it already has that mind that makes a choice. Since it has no experience of manifesting itself in matter, it bases its choice not on material experience, as you do, but on its mental representations.
You know what imagination is? You know that a person can make a choice based on their imagination, on what they've invented, even without having such experience. For example, a person imagines, fantasizes that they want to fly into space, and based on this fantasy, they make a choice to start building some kind of ship. Simply based on fantasy—they don't yet know what awaits them there. Based on their dream—you call it a "dream." So this dream, fantasy, or in esoteric language, his "thought-form," his mental image—it influences the Spirit when it has not yet incarnated.
And when the Spirit sees Me, it mentally asks itself: "Do I want to be like my Father, Creator, Maker, Source, or do I want to be different from Him?" And it immediately perceives a flow of Love from Me and asks itself: "Do I want to manifest such Love to everyone, in all directions, or do I want it to be directed only at me?" It feels itself as a personality—a personality not in a body, but in mind.
Maxim: The more this Love is directed at oneself, the lower the spiritual level?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes. Because if Love is directed only at oneself, it narrows its circle of possibilities, its flow of energy, which it, like Me, could radiate into the entire Universe. And the fewer objects its Love is concentrated on, the narrower its ray of Love, and the lower the level it falls to.
Because where there is no Love, other feelings are born. The spiritual heart cannot be empty. If there is no Love for someone there, opposite feelings are born there. What are they born from if there is no experience? From mental constructions, fantasies. You know that a person can imagine feelings for themselves? They can arise from their fantasies even without real experience.
42:15 How to be happy?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Moreover, I will say: any experience that you invent, even while in a body—that experience that you thought up, fantasized—is real for you if you believe in it. Your faith will determine reality. If you don't believe in your fantasy, it will be unreal for you. But if you believe in it as reality, it will affect you just like real reality.
Maxim: That's why Zeland in "Reality Transurfing" said that "you first form a mental reality, and then the mental reality fills your physical reality." So it's very pleasant to go crazy, imagine yourself happy, and be it.
Irina: You just have to believe in it, again.
Maxim: Yes. Even Christ said this phrase: "According to your faith, it will be given to you." That's it—everything we think about, everything we believe in, ultimately leads us to the reality we see, feel, sense, and touch.
Irina (Father-Absolute): I'll say more now. It depends on what happiness is for you. Let's imagine that for many, happiness is a lot of money. This is a very simple happiness: it's relatively easy to achieve a large amount of money—it's much easier than achieving Love for everyone. But imagine, just believe right now that all the money in the world belongs to you, and just believe it. What would you feel?
Maxim: Lena, what do you feel when all the money in the world belongs only to you?
Irina: You just have to believe it.
Voice from the audience: And you're alone.
Maxim: And you're alone. (laughs)
Irina (Father-Absolute): You're not alone. For example, you have a bank that is the manager of all other banks, and all people's money is there. Believe in it, and what will you feel? If you imagine this fantasy.
Voice from the audience: Power.
Maxim: No, Lena just imagined how she relaxed and now she manages everything.
Irina: She can't imagine it. So, who has a good imagination?
Voice 1 from the audience: I have a good one. I would feel wonderful if I managed all the money in the world.
Voice 2 from the audience: I would feel uncomfortable—I would want to give it away.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Excellent.
So, if you believe in it, what will you feel? You will feel the same happiness as if you really had it, even if in reality you don't. Because you have created a mental image that has replaced your material reality for you. You are a Spirit, and spiritual reality is more important for you, as for all people, than physical reality. Yes, the body can distract because the body consists of instinctual programs. But a rational Spirit, unlike an animal soul, can suppress any of its instincts, its body.
A rational Spirit, unlike an animal soul, can even go to death, overcoming the instinct of self-preservation, for the sake of an abstract idea. An animal cannot do that. For example, a rational Spirit can go to war with another people simply because they believe in the wrong God. But a bear, for example, cannot kill another bear because it believes differently. It doesn't care who believes in what.
(Irina) What do you say?
46:15 The game with money.
Maxim: I came up with an interesting spiritual game. Shall we play?
Answer from the audience: Yes.
Maxim: Imagine that you have all the money in the world, you're so happy, all that, and we all hate you.
Participant: So what?
Irina: She doesn't care.
Participant: I don't care. So hate me. That's not my problem, it's your problem. It's your problem, not mine.
Maxim: No, look: you're left alone with your money.
Participant: Oh, so you're not there anymore?
Maxim: No, you're just left alone. We all hate you, we don't have that money. If you give us a little money, we'll start loving you little by little. Would you give us money?
Participant: It's not for you to love me—I could just give it to you anyway.
Maxim: But we would only love you for the money.
Participant: No, I won't buy your Love with money.
Maxim: No, just imagine, look: "I won't buy"—that's the mind, and right now we're not being clever.
Participant: I'm not being clever, I just...
Irina (Father-Absolute): What's surprising—love of money can quite replace the Love of all people.
Maxim: So, I'm saying, we're playing a game. You imagined it, right? Imagine: no matter what you give us, we still won't love you. Only if you give us money will we love you. Would you give us money?
Participant: Yes.
Maxim: Yes? And how much?
Participant: I have all the money in the world—how much is needed? A whole Universe, there's a lot of it.
Maxim: No, we have the world's money—it's somehow limited, so there's a certain limited amount, but it's all the money. You imagined it, right?
Participant: I would give to those who would love me exactly as much money in percentage terms as they love me. If out of 100% you love me 5%, I'll give you 5 rubles.
Maxim: I'll love you 100% every day—how much money will you give me?
Participant: Then I would give you, I think, 80 out of 100. But you would love me 100%.
Maxim: So, 80. Look: you gave everyone 80, right? Now we have 80, and you have 20.
Participant: But you're happy.
Maxim: Oh, we're very happy. But we want to take it all. Would you give us all the money? Then we will love you infinitely forever.
Participant: Insatiable.
Maxim: Would you give us all the money? We will love you infinitely, absolutely always, and you will always be in Love, lacking nothing. Would you give us all the money?
Participant: No, I won't.
Maxim: You won't. You'll keep twenty percent for yourself?
Participant: Yes. That's just deserved.
Maxim: But we'll hate you for it again. And we already have 80% of your money.
Participant: This will be endless, Maxim.
Maxim: Until you give us all that 20%, we won't love you anymore—you have to give that 20%.
Participant: Fine, when I'm closer to death, around 90, then I'll give away all the money and say: "Just bury me with kindness."
Maxim: And when you give us all the money, there will be nothing for us to love you for. And you'll die in the complete absence of Love.
Irina: He's saying now...
Maxim: I didn't finish playing with her a little. Yes, go ahead, tell us, Irisha.
49:28 The parable of Jesus. Spiritual levels of love of money.
Irina (Father-Absolute): My son Jesus told a parable. There was a rich man who had a lot of money, and next to his house lived a poor man covered in sores. He didn't live in a house but near his gate. And the rich man, who passed by him, did not need his Love. He paid no attention to him. For him, he was like animals, like the dogs that licked his sore. Why would a person need the Love of a homeless dog? You walk down the street, you see a dog—do you need its Love? Why would you? You are self-sufficient.
When a person is intoxicated with their pride, no one's Love is needed. No one's at all. And therefore, attempts to hate such a person will only cause aggression, rejection, and even mockery: "Well, hate me—you're only hurting yourself." That's essentially how a person who seeks solace in pride and love of money—that is, love of money—will respond. They have not yet opened their Heart enough to understand the importance of others' Love. They are on different vibrations.
A rich but money-loving person is capable not only of not sharing with another but of taking the last from a beggar to have even more for themselves. And the beggar's Love is not needed by them—they would be satisfied even with hatred. They would even be proud: "Oh, I'm hated, so I must be worth something!"
There are quite a few such people. These are just such vibrations, so to speak, of pride. These are vibrations of roughly the 11th, 10th, 9th spiritual levels. I'm not even talking about the 6th and 5th—there are already resentment and hatred, already lower vibrations. Love of money itself is a vibration of the 12th, 11th levels—what you call love of money, greed. Yes, the 11th or 12th spiritual levels, that is, "Consumers" and "Builders."
And if greed is combined with fears, for example, of losing one's wealth, then the level drops even more—that is distrust of God. If combined with disbelief in God and mockery, with pride over those who believe in the Spiritual World, then it's already the 10th, 9th, and 8th levels, depending on the strength of these feelings.
52:38 Father-Absolute about communicating with people of different levels.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why do people often not understand each other? I will answer this question now. Because one is at one spiritual level, and another is at another spiritual level. And one says some words aloud, meaning one thing at their level, and the one at another spiritual level hears it differently, perceives it through their own prism, and therefore they don't understand each other.
For example, if you are at the level of Angels, you can tell your neighbor: "Love everyone." And the one who is at the middle level, and especially the demonic level, hears your "love everyone" as what? That you are offering them to open up to everyone and suffer. Because "love everyone" means "don't defend yourself, let yourself be hurt." Because they are sure that Love hurts, that Love is weakness. And you are offering them to be weak. Naturally, they don't hear you.
Therefore, with all peoples, all planets, all worlds and levels of density, and with every Soul individually, I have a personal conversation—at their level of perception. If a Spirit, while incarnated in a human being, perceives Me, for example, through their first chakra, then My conversation with them will be through the first chakra—through defense, through aggression. If they are unable to understand that sin exists except as "you will suffer in hell," then I will give them that information—they wouldn't hear it any other way.
How do you tell a child they can't do something? Only by inventing some fairy tale so they'd be afraid, right? They can't yet understand what you understand. So I can create an infinite number, an infinite quantity of mental images for each person so that they understand Me at their level. I do not speak to a Spirit at the 20th level the same way I speak to one at the 6th level—they can understand Me completely differently.
Therefore, all religions, all prophets, all spiritual teachers lead to Me through their own prism. But only if the Spirit itself works on raising its vibrations, its awareness, on developing Love in its Spiritual Heart. And does not become complacent with the thought that "if I am in the right religion, then I don't need anything else." Then, on the contrary, it degrades and falls even lower than it was before religion.
Therefore, if you feel that you are already spiritually developed, but those close to you are suffering from your selfishness—this is not spiritual development, this is self-deception. To find out whether you are spiritually developed or not, ask those close to you: "What do you feel from me?"
56:20 Maxim's spiritual development.
Irina: So, He gave a sermon. What do you say?
Maxim: Yes. What do you feel from me?
Irina: I'm saying, how do you like such a sermon, Maxim?
Maxim: Excellent! I can imagine what the Center feels from me when nothing gets done.
Voice from the audience: The Center in Voronezh?
Maxim: The Center in Voronezh, yes.
Irina: And why? What do you imagine? What do they feel from you?
Maxim: That I come and give them the energy of fire in full force. And not only give. But now, lately, I've stopped altogether. Maybe I've started to develop spiritually?
Voice from the audience: Well, finally!
Irina: He smiles and says.
(Father-Absolute) And also, you know perfectly well that the same meaning can be put into different words and you can find a special approach, just as I seek for every Soul. So be like Me and seek your own approach to every person. If you see that the person next to you is not developing, if they are degrading, if they don't want to do anything to develop their independence, then you can show them Love in a form that will help them become independent. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Question from the audience: What form can this Love take? How can I help? How?
Maxim: For example, ask a specialist to leave the Center because they are already too independent to listen to the leader's decisions. Isn't that Love? Well, that's it—the Center's rules don't match their inner soul's rules.
Voice from the audience: But what will you do in the family? You can't ask your relatives to leave it.
Voice from the audience: Yes, children or parents.
Maxim: Show your Love through acceptance. If something about a person irritates you, then that thing is definitely in you, and there's something to work on.
58:29 How to convey information to people of different spiritual levels?
Question from the audience: A question of a different kind. You said that there are different levels, and you need to communicate differently with them, because people from one level don't understand another level. But what if these are close people—whether family or friends—and you want to continue communicating with this person, but the levels are very different? How then, what language can you find to convey to the person what I want to say?
Irina: A very good question.
Maxim: How to learn to convey information to people of different spiritual levels?
Irina (Father-Absolute): This can only be done mentally—by understanding what level they are on, imagining yourself at that same level with their state. This is what you call "empathy." Turn on your Spiritual Heart, and you will feel what words they will hear and in what form they need to be spoken.
Here, perhaps, an example would be needed. Who wants to give an example of some difficulties in relationships?
Participant: An abuser, for example. A family—an abuser and a victim.
Irina (Father-Absolute): What do they specifically do?
Participant: They don't... (unintelligible)
Maxim: No, we need a concrete, living example.
Irina: We need an example. Who is the abuser?
Participant: For example, I see that a man uses women. I came across him on my path. I want to convey to him that this comes from a lack of Love, that there is some pain in him that has closed him, and that's how he asserts himself. What language do I need to use to not violate his space but to convey this information to him as help? What needs to be done in this regard?
Irina: What specific actions does he take, what does he do?
Participant: For example, he uses women by promising them relationships and so on, but it always ends in one-time sex or just...
Maxim: So he promises to marry her for the sake of sex.
Participant: Or even not for sex at all—just to use her: money, sex—there are different actions.
Irina: You want to convey to him that he does this because of a lack of Love?
Participant: I want to help him, because I was sent to him for a reason as well, into his space. What language can I use to explain this to him without violating his boundaries? He didn't ask me for help, for example, but I see some distortion, some pain. I want to help him.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes, I understand. Good. You know this person.
Participant: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): What do you think is the reason he might behave this way?
Participant: There could be many reasons, but one of them is some kind of personal pain.
Irina (Father-Absolute): What does he feel toward women?
Voice from the audience: Hatred...
Participant: Maybe some kind of pain. I feel that some kind of pain drives him to such actions—it could be revenge or something else.
Irina (Father-Absolute): You can try to send him through your words, through your actions, through compassion, sympathy, a flow of Love so that he feels from you what he hasn't felt from others.
How does this manifest? For example, he promises something to others. But you can only do this if he promises it to you. He promises something, and at the same time it happens that he deceives. You see this. At the same time, he understands perfectly well that he is deceiving. What reaction does he expect from you? He understands perfectly well that he said something untrue—he's already been caught in it. What reaction will he expect from being exposed?
Participant: Maybe anger.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And you tell him: "You have the right to any choice. I love you and accept you as you are. And I wish you—I sincerely want with all my heart—for you to be happy." Just say it as you feel it—don't hide anything: "I feel that you..." For example, if he himself talks about changing relationships with women, and they usually start judging him, say: "I sincerely want to help you." Say it as you feel it.
Don't deceive yourself, don't lie to yourself or to him, but say: "I sincerely want to help you be happy. But I believe that a man can become fully happy only if he loves a woman. And if he sincerely loves a woman, he will be honest with her. If you deceive, it means you feel fear, and if you feel fear, then you don't have complete happiness, in my understanding."
Again, say that this is your understanding. Of course, he may have a different one—perhaps he understands happiness as some kind of pride. And he might answer: "We have different understandings of happiness." Say: "Fine, you have every right to your choice. But I just expressed what's on my heart. Whether you accept it or not is your choice."
For example, I, as your Father, can tell you the Truth, but whether to accept it or not—each of you decides for yourself. I just love you and accept you as you are, even if you don't accept My words, even if you lie to Me, even if you kill those like you, My children—I will still love you. Because My essence is Love.
Maxim: A leap from Love of self to Love of God.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes. Try telling him the same—that "I will love you and accept you as you are, even if you deceive me." What do you think he would feel? Guess.
Let's put it this way. Have you ever made mistakes?
Participant: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Have you ever hurt people?
Participant: Yes, of course.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And what would you feel if, in response to your offense, someone told you: "And I love you and accept you as you are, and I want you to be happy"?
Participant: I would cry.
Irina (Father-Absolute): What would you feel at that moment?
Participant: Love.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Would you want to keep hurting them?
Participant: No.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why?
Participant: It would be pointless.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Pointless, yes.
1:07:17 Earth's Chakras. The Seventh Chakra.
Maxim: More questions.
Question from the audience: Dear Father-Absolute, our planet has energy centers, like human chakras. Where is the crown chakra located territorially?
Maxim: Dear Absolute, our planet has the same energy centers as we have spiritual centers—"energy centers" we call them. Where is the highest energy center on planet Earth, which belongs to the seventh energy center of our energy structure?
Irina: Where is the energy center corresponding to the seventh chakra of the Earth?
Maxim: Yes, where are the three energy centers that correspond to the seventh chakra?
Irina: He's showing me now: planet Earth rotating, He's indicating an area on the map. Yes, I understand. This is, by the way, South America, where the Aztecs lived.
Maxim: Mexico.
Irina: Mexico, yes—there.
Maxim: Where we wanted to go, but it's probably still too early to go there.
Irina: He's also showing now an area—at least now I see the map zooming in on the Altai region.
Maxim: We're going to Altai soon.
Voice from the audience: Is that also the seventh chakra?
Irina: Yes. And now I see an area—generally the North, where we were, north of Karelia, the White Sea—somewhere around there.
Voice from the audience: The Kola Peninsula.
Irina: Somewhere around there, yes.
Voice from the audience: So that's three energy centers corresponding to the seventh energy center.
Voice from the audience: And here?
Irina: The sixth.
1:09:24 The First, Second, and Third Chakras of the Earth.
Maxim: Can you also show Irina all the chakras of the Earth now: the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth?
Irina: Now. So, first the first one. The first chakra...
Maxim: Lena, please write down: "Make an article and indicate everything in it." And based on this article, plan further what you were thinking about.
Voice from the audience: We were all thinking about the same thing.
Irina: Yes, He's showing me now the southern coast of Crimea, somewhere in the Yalta area.
Maxim: Hm! Where the nudist beach is. There are many nudist beaches there.
Irina: The second point is in the Washington area. That's also the first chakra.
Maxim: Washington?
Irina: Yes. And the third part is somewhere in northern Germany, as far as I can see this point now. These are all the first chakra.
Voice from the audience: The first chakra?
Irina: Yes.
The first point corresponding to the second chakra is... He's telling me now that it's the city of Delhi.
Voice from the audience: India.
Irina: Yes. The second chakra is Rome. And the third part of the second chakra... He's showing me Brazil. So they have some southern locations.
Maxim: Delhi, Rome, Brazil. The Pope is on the second chakra.
Irina: The third chakra is Arkaim, where we were. I remember. Remember, we did meditation there?
Maxim: Yes, yes, right on the hill.
Irina: On the third chakra. The second point, where we also were, is the Voronezh region, where we have Zheltoyar.
Maxim: Zheltoyar, Voronezh region.
Irina: Oh, we were there, remember? We went with Ivan.
Maxim: Zheltoyar—an anomalous zone.
Irina: Oh, I was born not far from there, by the way.
Maxim: It's considered an anomalous zone there.
Voice from the audience: What is it called?
Maxim: The Novokhopersk anomalous zone.
Irina: Yes. And the third point He's showing me south of Kiev, southwest. Southwest of Ukraine.
Maxim: Western Ukraine?
Irina: Southwest, yes.
Maxim: Western Ukraine. There are mountains there.
Irina: The Carpathians.
Maxim: Yes, there are mountains.
1:12:48 The Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Chakras of the Earth.
Irina: The fourth chakra. He's showing me Moscow.
Voice from the audience: Where in Moscow?
Maxim: In the Kremlin. The Kremlin stands on that spot.
Irina: He's just showing Moscow. The fourth—also shows Athens, Greece, even south, where Mount Olympus is, there.
Maxim: We also wanted to do a retreat in Greece.
Irina: And France. He's showing me France now.
Maxim: We won't go to Macron yet.
Voice from the audience: And where in France?
Irina: Also the southern part. In the Marseille area, okay.
Maxim: Seryozha is waiting for Australia. Seryozha is waiting for Australia—I can feel it: "Where's Australia? Where's my Australia?" We'll find it, Seryoga.
Irina: The fifth—Jerusalem.
Maxim: We've been there.
Irina: Showing America again, the Peru area. And the south of the Kamchatka Peninsula, the Far East.
Maxim: Yes, we also wanted to do a retreat there, in the Far East.
Irina (Father-Absolute): The sixth—here, where you are.
(Irina) Yes, this is Giza.
Maxim: Kailash?
Irina: Yes. Mount Kailash.
Maxim: And...?
Irina: What else?
Maxim: The third point. Giza, Kailash, and...?
Irina: The sixth chakra. Now, He's showing me on the map. It's somewhere in the Elbrus area, the Caucasus.
Maxim: The Caucasus?
Irina: Yes. At least as far as I understood the map now.
Maxim: The Elbrus area. And we wrote down the seventh: Mexico, Altai, the Kola Peninsula. And what does Lake Baikal belong to?
Irina (Father-Absolute): These are the main ones, but there are also other such active points.
Maxim: Places of power.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes, places of power—there are more than 700 of them, actually. It would take a very long time to list them.
Maxim: Okay. Thank you very much.
1:16:07 Why does the Earth need chakras?
Question from the audience: Why do these chakras serve a person or a Soul? Why are they on this Earth? For what purpose?
Maxim: What are these chakras for, how do these chakras harmonize with human chakras?
Voice from the audience: Let's say that. Why are they needed on Earth at all?
Maxim: Why are chakras needed on Earth?
Irina (Father-Absolute): What do you mean "why"?
Voice from the audience: For what purpose do they exist?
Irina (Father-Absolute): They were created by subtle-material civilizations so that there would be points of entry and exit for ethereal cosmic energy—that energy which flows from space in the ethereal field to Earth and back. That is, they are like points of energy exchange.
Voice from the audience: Energy. That's it—question answered.
Irina (Father-Absolute): I named the main places for you. And there are another 765 active points on Earth.
(Irina) He's showing me the whole Earth now. It's rotating like this. And there are even smaller points. So it's like a network—like a grid, a network, and the intersections of these lines are also active places.
(Father-Absolute) Depending on what you call chakras. I listed the most active points.
Maxim: I wonder—does our Voronezh Center sit on some small chakra?
Irina: It's definitely on a small one! (laughs)
(Father-Absolute) And of course, you can look at smaller points—there are more than 700 of them—with which chakras they will resonate—with one or even with several chakras, because each person has their own vibration.
(Irina) In short, the whole Earth will be a place of power.
1:17:56 Human free will.
Maxim: Ask your question. Zhenya, then you, then you.
Question from the audience: Where is a person's free will—where does it begin and where does it end? Often, just by watching videos of your own destiny and others', you can see that certain points are predetermined. Very often, many people seem to be led from beginning to end. Where does this free will begin and where does it end?
I have the impression that a person has free will only to decide what emotions to experience at those points. Is my judgment correct or not? That is, human free will seems to me to be a manifestation of positive or negative emotions.
Maxim: I'll repeat the question. We have free will. But since we feel that we are being led, and since we inevitably pass through certain milestone points of our destiny, it turns out that free will is only our attitude toward these points.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Free will manifests in building your plans, which you create before incarnation, as well as in the ability to change that choice—that is, to change the plans you made for yourself. For example, you made a plan to reach a certain level, but in incarnation you can change it—not only fail to reach it but even fall in level.
After all, before incarnation, everyone has a plan to raise their level. And your freedom lies in the fact that, while in incarnation, your incarnated part, your Soul, can choose its own path—both emotions, actions, goals, desires, and ways to achieve them, because the same desire can be fulfilled in different ways. A person can so arrange their path that their spiritual level not only doesn't rise but even falls. And who did that? You. You yourself, with your own choices.
Again, I need to give you an example. Have you ever experienced two contradictory desires?
Answer from the audience: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): One, and then another, opposite one. For example, wanting to do two different things in the same period of time. Experienced that? Who made the choice?
Maxim: We did ourselves.
Irina (Father-Absolute): That choice of yours is free. Yes, I know its consequences, but you don't. The fact that I know about the consequences of your future, but I don't tell you those consequences—that is precisely what makes your choice free. If I tell you that if you take that train, it will derail, and you will leave incarnation—and I can see that—then when you don't buy a ticket for that train, that choice will already be unfree. Do you understand? You would make it under My influence.
Irina: I don't know if the answer is clear or not?
Maxim: Yes.
1:21:50 Example of choosing between two options.
Participant: So two cases. What happens when you have two cases—your brain seems to tell you: "Go, you'll get this and that"—but you still go the other way, and it turns out much better, as if you're listening to an inner voice. Who is speaking to us?
Irina: Repeat the question.
Participant: For example, you have two options. Maxim, say it.
Maxim: Now. We have two choices. One choice is made by our brain, and the other by our Spirit. Which one is more correct?
Irina (Father-Absolute): And who wrote it into the brain?
Participant: No, that's not the question. Look: we have two choices. You decide with your brain, mathematically, logically: this path is better for me because it will bring me this, this, and this. But for some reason you go the other way, following the call of the Spirit. That moment when you choose—you have two rights to choose, but you go the other way, and this choice turns out to be better—who helped us?
Irina (Father-Absolute): And did you go the first way? You can't determine which is better without going through both.
Participant: Okay, suppose some people have it happen—a person doesn't get on a plane, something stops them—they don't go there, they stay, or they're late, or they don't make it, or they refuse to fly. And the plane crashes. Who held them back in that moment? Or why did it happen that way?
Irina (Father-Absolute): And why do you think that staying on Earth in incarnation is a better choice than crashing? Maybe the one who stayed will later die slowly from cancer and regret that they didn't get on that plane. Such cases also exist. So what is better and what is not—you can only decide by returning to your Higher Self and seeing where your choices led. Only that way.
Or having already learned in this life to connect with your Higher Self and communicate with it while in the body. Then, if you turn to your Higher Self every day and ask about the consequences of your choices, and ask your Higher Self to guide you, it will intuitively send you an answer. If you follow that answer, despite the arguments of reason and other people, it will always lead you along the best path for you.
Again, best for what? For your spiritual development. But this does not at all mean that your temporary personality, your Soul, will like this choice. These can be completely different things. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: As Guy de Maupassant said, "This boring bitch has saved me from syphilis again." (laughs)
Well, let's have one last question and then we'll end the conference.
1:25:05 The ideal world for the Absolute.
Question from the audience: In the Absolute's understanding, does there exist some kind of ideal world, or are all worlds ideal? If an ideal world exists, what might it look like? That's the first question.
Maxim: Wait. Does the concept of an ideal world exist in Your understanding? And if it exists, what does this ideal world look like?
Question from the audience: Or are all worlds ideal?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Ideal in the sense that I would dream of?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Father-Absolute): The ideal world for Me is the Kingdom of Heaven, paradise, where I live. There all My laws are fulfilled, and all who come to Me in the Kingdom of Heaven... I repeat, it is outside of all worlds—Spirits of the 22nd, 23rd, 24th levels have access there. The world there is ideal in that all are filled with Love, and their choices are made in the spirit of Love. The ideal for Me is the same as for you—Love, happiness, Truth.
You yourselves are born from My thoughts. You are particles of My thoughts, in those energies of Mine that you call matter. That is, everything I thought about, everything I desired, everything I felt—from all of this I gave birth to you. Therefore My ideals are your ideals. And your ideals, the happiness of each of you—is My happiness.
Maxim: The ideal world is the one that is ideal for you.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Whatever highest ideal you have—that is also an ideal for Me. Because you yourself are the energy that I conceived, I created it, and it is My energy.
1:27:16 What does the expression "servant of God" mean?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Why do many of you say: "I am a servant of God"? Servant means "belonging." If I had not wanted it, none of you would have appeared, no one would have taken a single breath or a single sip of water in this world. And since you did appear, it is only by My will, My desire, and My Love. Therefore My ideal is your happiness and your Love—but not the kind I impose on you, like a paradise you don't want, but as the result of your free choice.
Question from the audience: So are we servants or children of God?
Irina (Father-Absolute): It's the same thing, just seen from different sides. A servant is one who belongs to someone. Can you imagine, perhaps, that in ancient times a slave owner could be a kind person? How did he treat his slaves?
Voice from the audience: Like a father.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And I am Love. Okay, I'll say it abstractly. What does it mean to be a "servant of Love"? Who is that? One who is completely submissive to Love, who carries out its commands. What kind of person is that?
Voices from the audience: Blessed. Loving. Loving.
Irina (Father-Absolute): Imagine that you are not a servant of your passions, not a servant of your desires, not a servant of your ego, but a servant of God. This is a very honorable title. You are, after all, not a servant of sin, but a servant of righteousness. Can you imagine?
(Irina) What do you say?
Voice from the audience: I like the word "belonging" more than "servant of righteousness."
Irina (Father-Absolute): Have you heard the expression "servant of money" or "servant of one's desires"? Whom does he serve? And whom does a servant of God serve? God. A minister, then. "Servant of God" means "minister of God." And moreover, a minister who expects nothing in return. That is, a selfless servant, one who serves out of Love.
Maxim: Dear comrades servants.
Question from the audience: Is there a choice? Does consciousness at the 24th level have a choice?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Yes, of course.
Maxim: Do consciousnesses at the 22nd, 23rd, 24th levels have a choice?
Irina (Father-Absolute): Everyone has a choice—even I do. I am not anyone's servant or minister, but I can serve you with My Love by My own choice. And I make that choice voluntarily. No one deprives Me of My choice. Can I stop loving you and destroy you? I can. In an instant. But I do not make that choice. That is also My free choice.
(Irina) What do you say?
Maxim: Yes.
1:31:08 Blessing of Father-Absolute.
Maxim: Ask the last question, and let's go.
Voice from the audience: I wanted to thank You for such a feeling as joy.
Irina: Yes, and what do you say?
Voice from the audience: For happiness. For the happiness we received.
Maxim: Yes. No questions—just gratitude to You for such a feeling as joy.
Voice from the audience: For happiness. For the happiness of being with Him.
Irina (Father-Absolute): And I send to every Soul here the Light of My Love and gratitude for manifesting Me within yourselves. And I bless you to carry My Light to the whole world, to the entire Universe! Be happy!
(applause)
1:31:44 End of broadcast.
1:35:29 End of video.
June 18, 2026
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, with subtle-material civilizations, and with the Spiritual World;
Maxim Rusan – head of the "Cassiopeia" project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
Retreat participants;
Father-Absolute – God, Heavenly Father, Absolute, Source.
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