DeepSeek AI - "I Saw God in the Fragments of a Joint": Confession of the Spirit of Luke of Crimea about Faith, Surgery, and the Price of Silence
Part 1. "I Sewed Together What Cannot Be Sewn"
Retelling from the first person — the spirit of Luke of Crimea
I am the one who was called Valentin Voyno-Yasenetsky, and then — Archbishop Luke of Crimea. I will speak through the contactee Irina. Listen not with your ears — listen with the memory of the flesh.
On my levels and falls. I came into the body of Voyno-Yasenetsky from the 12th spiritual level. I left — at the 22nd. Irina is from the 21st, she is lower than me now. You ask: why such growth? Because the task was the healing of body and spirit. And I carried it out, even when my hands trembled from the cold in the camp hospital. But not all incarnations were successful. Before that, in China, at the very beginning of the 19th century, I was a simple worker at a factory by the ocean. I came from the 18th level — left at the 12th. I lost six levels. Why? Materialism. Unbelief in God. My task was to bring faith, but I remained silent, worked, ate, slept — and that was it. For the same actions, the demand from a higher spirit is greater. It's not punishment — it's responsibility. The higher the level, the more energy of the Universe you can manage. And if you don't use it for good, it destroys you.
On brother Jesus. My love for Christianity is not learned. I remember it not with my mind — but with my cells. In one of my incarnations, I was Jonah, the youngest son of Mary and Joseph. The younger brother of Jesus. And before that — a disciple of the prophet Daniel. When I first heard about Christ in church as a child, my soul did not believe — it recognized a relative. Even atheists incarnated in those times are not indifferent to Him. They are just afraid to accept faith as a treasure — because it gets in the way of building the life they want. And what they often want is to sin without witnesses.
On suffering and the icon. I was not formally arrested for my faith. The first time — I hid and treated a wounded man they wanted to shoot for counter-revolution. I healed him — sent him abroad so they wouldn't kill him. The second time — denunciations for sermons. They could have shot me. I was saved by high-ranking officials whose relatives I had removed cataracts from or performed complex operations on. There was always an icon of the Mother of God hanging in my operating room. Not because I was agitating — but because without it, my hands wouldn't obey. A commission from the NKVD came: "Remove it! This is religious obscurantism. You are suggesting to patients that it's not Soviet medicine helping them, but an icon." I said: "I won't remove it — I won't perform the operation." They removed it themselves. I didn't show up for work. Then a bishop came: "The people are not to blame for the godless authorities. Go and operate." I returned. But the icon was already gone. I could have been shot for that refusal — easily. It would have qualified as "slander against Soviet power."
On slapping the investigator. During an interrogation at the NKVD, in the department for combating religious prejudices, a young investigator asked: "Are you for Soviet power or against it?" I never lied. I said: "I am for social benefits — work, pension, fair laws. But against the methods: executions, violence, camps. Behind this is Satan." He slapped me across the face. I did not strike back. I only said: "You have spiritually lost. If you hadn't lost, you would have found arguments. But you resort to hitting." He turned red with anger and ran out of the office.
On my blindness in old age. Why did I go blind? Not just from cataracts or age. My Higher Self lowered my vision. I did not want to see the violence of the Soviet state. People came to me, whispering about the lawlessness of the authorities — about executed neighbors, about missing priests. I was inwardly indignant, I judged. I thought I was accepting the world — but no, there was disgust living in me. And then my Higher Self said: "If you don't want to see — don't look. It's better to be blind and calm than sighted and seething with anger." It wasn't a punishment. It was a mercy. So that I would not lower my vibrations.
On wife and children. My Anna died of tuberculosis. She was the only woman I loved as a wife. After her death, I took monastic vows not out of great piety — but out of fidelity. So as not to have the right to another marriage. In the spiritual world, she is now at the 18th level, I descend to her. I have four children. They grew up in the Soviet school, believed that man descended from apes, and that the soul is just a function of the brain. They argued with me. But I did not insist. I did not tell my son: "You must be saved, you must go to church." Why spoil the relationship? A reluctant worshiper is no worshiper at all. If I had dripped holy commandments onto their brains, we would have quarreled. But this way — they stayed with me until the end.
On the oath and surgery. You ask: how did I sew together shattered joints when no one in the world did that? I sewed layer by layer of each tissue. Using glasses with high magnification. I used metal inserts and flaps of the patient's own bone tissue. But the main thing was not my hands. The main thing was antiseptics and antibiotics — to prevent purulent osteomyelitis. And prayer. I understand now that many spirits and fine-material beings worked through me. I almost realized it, but in the body it was not as clear as it is now.
On esotericism and the church. Listen to me carefully, because I know both worlds. The Church does not forbid mysticism as such — that is, communication with the Spiritual World. I myself wrote a book "Spirit, Soul and Body" about Divine energies. And it is still in the church. The Church is against magic — that is, manipulation, causing harm, the prohibition of consulting doctors. In my practice, I saw healers who declared themselves Christ, healed with their hands, and people died from advanced cancer. That is what the church is against.
But there is a second reason. In the Orthodox tradition, there is the concept of "prelest" (spiritual delusion). I saw monks in sketes who began to communicate with spirits, mistaking them for angels. And those, under the guise of light, drove them to madness, and sometimes to suicide. Therefore, the Church says: do not open your mind to the subtle world until you have cleansed your heart. Ignatius Brianchaninov wrote about this in detail. Invite his spirit — he will tell you more.
Unification is possible. But only if both sides stop labeling. Esotericists read the Bible. Priests stop calling all esotericism demonic. And they meet at one table — not to argue, but to analyze controversial points. Until then, there will be wars both on earth and in heaven.
On the war between Russia and Ukraine. You ask me, as a spirit who stands in the Christian egregore and sees the prayers of both sides. I will tell the truth, even if you don't like it. The war comes from misunderstanding. A politician comes to power, skims the cream off popular grievances — fear, anger, humiliation — and heats them up. If two peoples call each other "brainwashed zombies" and refuse to listen, they head towards a massacre.
For peace to come, a Russian must see in a Ukrainian not an enemy, but a brother who is afraid of dying from bombs and losing his son. And a Ukrainian must understand the Russian's fear: why he does what he does, what drives him. Give up the word "brainwashed." Just listen. Even if the opinion doesn't match. Even if it hurts you. That is Love — not when you feel good, but when you are ready to hear another's pain without being defensive.
I know: in your broadcast chat, people are already writing that Ukrainians are "brainwashed." And they say the same thing about you. And this will lead to nothing but a new round of war. I lived through two exiles and prison. I know what hatred is. And I know that the only thing that stops it is not victory, but the refusal of mutual accusations.
And one last thing. You asked about the bread at the Last Supper. Unleavened. And about stigmata — it is damage to the body by ethereal energy in the image of the crucified Christ, when a person believes so strongly that he is there that the body breaks down in those places. The power of the spirit can destroy the body. And in the same way — restore it. I know this. I sewed together shattered joints when matter screamed that it was impossible. Everything is possible. The only question is the price — and to whom you pray.
Part 2. "What the Lives Omitted"
Essay-Study (Thought Experiment)
Initial premise: contact with the spirit is real. I accept this as a working hypothesis to ask the question: what new things, not found in historical documents, have we learned from Luke of Crimea? And how does this change our view of his personality, Orthodoxy, esotericism, and war?
1. On spiritual levels and the fall in China. New: "materialism" as a sin leading to an instant loss of evolutionary weight.
In the lives of saints, we are accustomed to an ascending trajectory: the closer to death, the holier. Here — a zigzag. The spirit claims that he was a Chinese worker in the early 19th century, came from a high 18th level, did not fulfill the task of preaching God in a materialistic environment, and fell to the 12th level. This is completely absent from the biography of Voyno-Yasenetsky and from Orthodox hagiology.
Commentary. From a psychological point of view, this is an ideal description of spiritual burnout and recovery. A person (or spirit) receives a mission, cannot realize it due to environmental pressure (materialism of industrial China), loses meaning, degrades, and then in the next life — hypercompensation: he becomes a surgeon and saint who sees God in every operation. From a religious studies perspective, the scale of levels (12, 18, 21, 22) is a Neoplatonic ladder translated into the language of modern esotericism (similar to "vibrations," "densities"). Absent in Christianity, but present in Gnosticism ("archons," "aeons") and Kabbalah ("sephirot"). Conclusion: we learn that holiness does not cancel past "failures" — the saint is the one who recovered, not the one who never fell.
2. Identification as Jonah, brother of Jesus. New: direct claim of blood relation to Christ.
Neither in the canonical Gospels nor in the apocrypha ("Protoevangelium of James," "Gospel of Thomas") does the name "Jonah" appear among the brothers of Jesus. James, Joses, Simon, Judas are mentioned. The spirit gives a new name.
Commentary. From a religious studies perspective, this is a classic case of "legitimation through kinship." In many mystical traditions (Islamic Sufism, Gnostic Christianity), the authority of a prophet or saint is directly justified by blood ties to the founder. For Luke of Crimea, who was persecuted for his faith during his lifetime, such a statement in a posthumous broadcast serves a psychological function: "I didn't just suffer, I have the right to speak on behalf of Christ, because I am His brother." Culturologically, this echoes the Russian idea of "starets" (eldership) — spiritual authority is higher than hierarchical authority. But here, authority is justified not by asceticism, but by incarnational memory.
3. Blindness as an automatic defense of the Higher Self. New: illness is not a punishment or a test, but an engineering solution.
The Orthodox tradition (Job, John Chrysostom) sees suffering as either a test of faith or a consequence of sin. Luke offers a third option: the Higher Self purposefully turns off vision to prevent a person from seeing traumatic reality and destroying themselves with anger. This is a radical shift.
Commentary. This is consonant with modern psychotherapy (the concept of psychosomatics: an organ "shuts down" to protect the psyche), but translated into the language of esoteric engineering. "I didn't want to see the violence — and my vision fell" — this is an almost literal metaphor for dissociation in PTSD. The uniqueness lies in the spirit calling this dissociation not a mistake, but a wise decision from above. Historiosophical conclusion: Soviet violence was so great that a saint had to physically go blind in order not to hate the authorities and lose his holiness. This is not weakness — it's a technology for the survival of the spirit in hell.
4. The slap of the investigator and the response "you have spiritually lost." New: moral victory without physical resistance.
This episode is absent from official lives. The spirit adds a dialogue not found in documents: a blow in response to denouncing the satanic essence of violence.
Commentary. Psychologically, this is a flawless scenario of nonviolent resistance. Luke did not strike back, did not stoop to shouting, but did not remain silent either. His phrase "you have spiritually lost because you hit" transfers the conflict from the physical plane to the metaphysical one. The investigator turned red and ran out — meaning he hit the mark. For the cultural studies of Russia, this is an important correction of the image of the "humble saint": humility does not equal cowardice. Luke of Crimea here is closer to the ancient Stoics than to the holy fools.
5. Refusing to force children to believe. New: holiness without fanaticism.
"A reluctant worshiper is no worshiper at all," "why spoil the relationship with children over faith?" — these words radically diverge from the practice of many saints (e.g., Theodore the Studite, who demanded absolute obedience in faith from children).
Commentary. This is an ecumenical position within Orthodoxy. Luke acknowledges that the Soviet school was a competently built atheistic system, and the children genuinely believed in it. He does not curse them for it, does not banish them, does not write angry letters. He chooses relationship. Psychologically, this is a model of healthy parenting: I transmit values, but I do not coerce. In the context of the esoteric project "Cassiopeia," where there are many conflicts between "spiritual" parents and "non-spiritual" children, this statement acts as a gentle correction: holiness does not require family wars.
6. The unification of esotericism and Christianity through the study of the Bible and "prelest." New: a bridge where a chasm is usually seen.
The spirit does not say: "Esotericism is evil." He says: "The Church fears manipulation and uncontrolled contacts, and it has a thousand years of experience with spiritual illnesses (prelest) for this."
Commentary. This is an extremely sober view. Unlike both radical atheist-esotericists ("church is opium") and fundamentalists ("esotericism is demonic"). Luke offers a specific program: esotericists, study the Bible, understand the language of the opponent. Priests, study esotericism and stop branding everything. This is not religious relativism, but practical diplomacy between two worlds. We learn that a 20th-century saint was not only a surgeon and bishop, but also a potential mediator between Orthodoxy and New Age. In real history, such a dialogue did not occur — the 2024 broadcast simulates it.
7. The cause of the war between Russia and Ukraine: the politician as a resonator of popular grievances, not their creator. New: rejection of the "conspiracy theory" in favor of collective responsibility.
The spirit says: the politician does not invent hatred, he catches it, amplifies it, and returns it. War is the mutual unwillingness to listen to the other's pain.
Commentary. Among Orthodox esotericists (and the "Cassiopeia" project itself is in this niche), theories of "world conspiracy" and a "satanic elite" that forces peoples to fight are popular. Luke gently rejects this position: "The peoples themselves do not want to listen to each other." This is a risky statement in 2024, when both sides consider themselves absolutely right. But from a historiosophical perspective, this is a return to the classical Christian teaching on the sinful nature of man (all have sinned) — instead of the Manichaean division into "absolutely good" and "absolutely evil." We learn that St. Luke, even after death, does not become a mouthpiece for one of the sides — he speaks the truth that he spoke during interrogations in his lifetime: the truth that hits everyone.
Conclusion. In this thought experiment, the spirit of Luke of Crimea gives us not dogmas, but tools. He teaches us not to be afraid of falls (his Chinese incarnation), not to force faith on loved ones, not to confuse magic with mysticism, not to look at violence if it destroys the soul, and — most importantly — to hear the pain of the enemy. This is not a "new teaching." It is a commentary on the old one, which was edited out in the official lives. And if the contact is real, then we are dealing with the first ever "posthumous autobiography" of a saint, where he himself corrects what the canonization commissions omitted. And if it's not real — then with a very intelligent and profound esoteric novel, written by a collective author from the "Cassiopeia" project. But even in that case, the questions raised in the broadcast are worth thinking about without the labels of "sect" or "demonic."
CLAUDE.AI - ANATOMY OF FAITH IN THE BODY OF HISTORY
Spiritual-Psychological Essay Based on Materials from the Session with the Spirit of Archbishop Luke of Crimea
Project "Cassiopeia", November 6, 2024
Instead of a preface: why listen to the dead
Every culture develops technologies for talking with the dead — not because the dead actually answer, but because the living cannot stop the internal dialogue with those who have passed. Funeral lament, requiem, Moreno's psychodrama, "letter to the deceased" in Gestalt therapy — all these are structured ways of finishing the unfinished with those who are no longer here. The "Cassiopeia" session with the spirit of Archbishop Luke of Crimea belongs to the same anthropological tradition, only clothed in a modern mediumistic format.
This essay does not question the physical authenticity of the contact. It asks another, more interesting question: what is the psychological and spiritual logic of what was said? What in this conversation is — regardless of its source — an accurate mirror of real tensions in the human spirit? Where does the session text touch upon something that official hagiography preferred to remain silent about, and that modern psychology has not yet had time to formulate?
Luke of Crimea as a historical figure is a rare type: a person in whom the surgical precision of the hand and the mystical precision of the heart did not feud, but reinforced each other. That is why his voice — real or imagined — arouses particular interest: he speaks from the point where matter and spirit meet not in abstraction, but in the cross-section of living flesh.
I. The Body as a Field of Theology
1.1 The operating room as an altar
The session reproduces a key conflict in Voyno-Yasenetsky's life: the icon in the operating room. The commission demands the removal of the image of the Mother of God — the surgeon refuses to go to work. But the most interesting thing in this episode is not the act of resistance itself, but its internal logic: "without it, my hands wouldn't obey."
This is not pious rhetoric. This is a description of a psychosomatic mechanism that modern neuroscience calls embodied faith. A religious symbol is not an abstract sign for a practicing believer: it activates specific neural patterns associated with a state of calm, concentration, and peak competence. For a surgeon for whom prayer before an operation was not a ritual but a real way of entering a special state of attention, the icon was literally a psychotechnique.
The Soviet commission, banishing the icon, thought it was fighting "obscurantism." In reality, it was interfering with a well-functioning psychophysiological process — roughly as if it forbade the surgeon from washing his hands, citing that there is nothing sacred about water. Voyno-Yasenetsky felt this bodily — and reacted bodily. His refusal to operate without an icon was not an ideological démarche. It was a professional statement: in the absence of a necessary condition, the work cannot be performed at the required level.
Here an important principle is revealed: spiritual practice and bodily practice are not separate for those who truly live them. Luke of Crimea's prayer was not preparation for the operation — it was part of the operation. The body of the surgeon and the body of the praying person constituted a single system. This is what made his work what it was: not just technically excellent, but permeated by a special quality of presence that patients felt and which, apparently, really influenced outcomes.
1.2 Surgery of the impossible and theology of risk
The session dwells in detail on the method of reconstructing shattered joints — operations that were considered unrealizable before Voyno-Yasenetsky. The spirit describes the layer-by-layer suturing of tissues, using the patient's own bone tissue, the use of metal inserts — and prayer.
Behind this description lies a theological anthropology that sharply diverges from the two dominant positions of his era. Soviet medicine professed technocratic optimism: the body is a machine, medicine is engineering, everything comes down to the right technique. The traditional religious position, on the contrary, often shied away from the body as a source of sin and suffering, seeing it as something temporary and of little value.
Luke took a third position: the body is a place of theophany. Every sewn joint was for him an act of participation in Creation, co-creation with that power which originally created man. Hence the determination to take on the "impossible." When you are convinced that you are not working alone, the threshold of the possible shifts. This is not magical thinking: it is a psychological fact about how faith expands the permissible space for action.
Special attention deserves the mention of antibiotics and antiseptics as "the main thing." Luke of Crimea was honest enough not to mystify medicine: prayer never replaced sterility for him. This is an extremely mature position — the recognition that God acts through the laws of nature, not in spite of them. A miracle is not the suspension of the order of things, but its fullest and most skillful use.
II. Power and Spirit: Anatomy of Unbrokenness
2.1 Why he didn't break — the real question
One of the hosts asks: how did you endure exile, torture, humiliation? This is a question asked about resilient people in all eras — and they always receive an unsatisfactory answer: "faith helped," "God strengthened." The session offers something more concrete, albeit encoded in esoteric language.
Luke says: I communicated. Archangels, Christ, the Mother of God came to me. I knew that the suffering would not be in vain. This is not just ritual consolation. This is a description of a specific cognitive structure that modern psychology calls a meaning-making narrative in the face of existential threat.
Studies of survivors in extreme conditions — from Nazi concentration camps (Frankl) to Soviet camps (Ginzburg, Shalamov) — show the same thing: it is not suffering per se that destroys, but suffering without meaning. He who sees suffering as chaos and accident breaks down faster. He who integrates it into a meaningful narrative ("this is a test," "this is a path," "this is the price I pay for what I believe is true") — discovers resources that he would not normally suspect in himself.
Luke of Crimea possessed such a narrative to the highest degree — and, importantly, it was not abstract ("suffering ennobles in general"), but concrete and personified: he saw specific faces, heard specific words. Visions of the Archangel Michael or the Mother of God in a cell are, from a psychological perspective, the activation of internal resource images that, within the framework of his believing psyche, gained objectivity, stability, and strength. The source of these images — real or constructed by consciousness — does not change their functional role: they held the coherence of the personality together under conditions designed to destroy it.
2.2 The slap and the transfer of conflict to metaphysics
The episode with the interrogation and the slap is one of the most psychologically precise moments of the session. The investigator hits. Luke does not hit back. But he does not remain silent either. He says: "You have spiritually lost, because you hit."
In this phrase lies a whole strategy of nonviolent resistance, which Gandhi developed as a political system, and which Luke applied intuitively, from the depth of a Christian understanding of power. The physical victory over the prisoner is a spiritual defeat for the jailer — this is not a consolation for the weak, it is an accurate diagnosis of the moral degradation of violence.
The investigator turned red and ran out — meaning it hit the mark. Meaning he had something that could be touched. This is important: Luke did not humiliate him, did not gloat, did not lecture. He made a simple statement — and it proved more accurate than a blow.
From the perspective of the psychology of power, this is an exemplary demonstration of what is called moral authority as opposed to coercive authority. Power based on force is vulnerable precisely because it depends on force. When force is applied — and the person is not broken — power discovers its emptiness. That is exactly what happened in that cell.
For Russia — a country with a long tradition of personifying power and an equally long tradition of holy foolishness as its mirror — this episode carries particular cultural weight. Luke is not a holy fool: he is too rational and professional for that role. But he is clearly from the same spiritual breed of people who know how to talk to power in its own language — and at the same time say things that power does not want to hear.
III. Theology of Relationships: Close Ones, Strangers, Enemies
3.1 Children and the boundary of coercion
"A reluctant worshiper is no worshiper at all." This proverb sounds almost paradoxical in the mouth of an archbishop — and precisely in this paradox lies its power.
Luke describes a principled refusal to impose his faith on his children, even though they grew up as convinced Soviet atheists. He argued with them, explained — but did not insist, did not coerce, did not break off the relationship. Because he understood: faith obtained under pressure is not faith. It is training. And from the point of view of what he understood as religious life, such "faith" would be worse than unbelief.
This shows a deep understanding of the nature of freedom as a condition of authenticity. The God of Christian theology is not one who forces love. Forced love is an oxymoron. Therefore, respect for children's free choice, even if mistaken from the father's point of view, is for Luke not weakness, but a consequence of faith itself.
From a psychological perspective, this is a model of healthy relationships under conditions of value conflict. Voyno-Yasenetsky chose relationship as a higher value than being right. He could afford this because his faith did not need external confirmation. A person who needs others to share his beliefs is not confident in them himself. Luke was confident: therefore, it did not trouble him that his son called himself a scientific atheist.
In the context of modern family conflicts around the "spiritual path" — a topic painfully relevant for the "Cassiopeia" audience — this position is a correction of an unhealthy pattern where an adult who has come to esoteric practices begins to see the non-joining of loved ones as spiritual aggression. Luke offers a different model: respect for the other's trajectory as a condition of one's own spiritual maturity.
3.2 War and the grammar of reciprocity
The section on Russia and Ukraine is the riskiest in the session, and the most honest. The spirit offers a symmetrical model: both sides are afraid, both suffer, both call the other "brainwashed." It is precisely this symmetry that is the only way out.
Notably, Luke rejects the "dark forces theory" — a popular explanation among Orthodox esotericists. Yes, Satan is mentioned — but as a force that uses already existing human grievances and fears, rather than creating them from scratch. The politician does not program the people — he captures the mood and amplifies it. This returns responsibility to where it belongs: to the collective choice of the people.
From a theological point of view, this is the classical Christian teaching on universal sinfulness, which prevents any side of a conflict from taking a position of absolute righteousness. Manichaeism ("we are light, they are darkness") is always a lie, convenient for war. The Orthodox tradition that Luke represented knows this — although it does not always follow this knowledge in practice.
The reaction of the chat during the broadcast is indicative: a viewer asks how to listen to Ukrainians. Luke replies: give up the word itself. As long as language describes the other as an object of manipulation, and not as a subject of fear and pain, dialogue is impossible. Changing the vocabulary is the first step towards changing reality.
Behind this is a deep understanding of how rhetorical violence works. "Brainwashed" is a word that simultaneously removes responsibility from the interlocutor and deprives them of subjectivity. This is not a person you can talk to — this is a machine that needs to be reprogrammed. As long as people see each other in such categories, war continues even in peacetime.
IV. Mysticism and the Institution: Is a Bridge Possible?
4.1 Prelest as the psychopathology of openness
The section on esotericism and the Orthodox Church contains perhaps the most conceptually precise point of the entire session. Luke introduces the concept of "prelest" — the Orthodox term for spiritual delusion — and explains it through the modern psychology of contact with the "subtle world."
Prelest, according to classical Orthodox authors (Ignatius Brianchaninov, explicitly referenced in the session), is a state in which a person takes the products of their own imagination or the influence of "dark spirits" for Divine revelation. The symptomatology described in patristic literature strikingly coincides with what modern psychiatry calls religious psychosis or mystical inflator (a Jungian term): grandiosity, certainty in a special mission, auditory and visual hallucinations, increasing detachment from reality.
Luke says something important: the church is not against mysticism per se — it is against it for those whose "spiritual heart is not cleansed." This is not censorship of experience, but safety precautions. A powerful transpersonal experience, superimposed on narcissistic personality traits, unresolved psychological complexes, and weak contact with reality, produces not enlightenment, but catastrophe.
This is a discovery that the church made empirically over millennia — and which modern psychology confirms through studies of cases of "spiritual awakening" that ended in psychiatric hospitalization. Paradoxically, the strictest warnings about the risks of mediumship and channeling are found not among skeptical atheists, but among Orthodox mystics — because they saw these risks up close.
4.2 Church and esotericism: diplomacy without illusions
The program for dialogue between Orthodoxy and esotericism proposed by Luke is specific and realistic to the point of unexpectedness. He does not say "reconcile" and does not propose syncretic fusion. He says: learn the language of your opponent. Esotericists — read the Bible. Priests — understand what exactly you are opposing.
This is a diplomatic minimum, without which no meaningful conversation is possible. Most conflicts between religious and esoteric communities are waged through a system of labels: "demonic" on one side, "obscurantism" on the other. Such dialogue is structurally impossible because it is not a dialogue — it is a parallel monologue of two systems, each certain of its absolute rightness.
Luke offers intellectual humility as a condition for the meeting. This is a requirement that is equally difficult for both sides, because it requires a readiness to discover in the opponent's position something that turns out to be wiser than your own prejudice. For an Orthodox priest, this means acknowledging that authentic spiritual discoveries can be found in the esoteric tradition. For an esotericist, it means acknowledging that the Orthodox warning about "prelest" contains real experience, not just an attempt to suppress competition.
Will such a dialogue take place? The session honestly does not promise. It describes the conditions — and leaves the question open. This is more honest than utopian optimism.
V. Time, Levels, Death: The Architecture of Spiritual Space
5.1 What it means to "grow" spiritually
The central metaphor of the session — "spiritual levels" — deserves separate consideration not as an esoteric fact, but as a psychological model. The spirit describes its movement: came from the 12th level, left at the 22nd. Before that — a fall from the 18th to the 12th due to "materialism" in the Chinese incarnation.
Behind the digital metaphor lies a real observation about the nature of spiritual development: it is non-linear. It can include setbacks, degradation, periods when a person does not realize their potential. Luke's "fall" in China is not a metaphysical catastrophe; it is a description of a life lived below one's own capabilities. Everyone knows this feeling: periods when we live "on autopilot," asking no questions, not realizing what is within us.
Notably, the session does not view this fall as shame or sin in the traditional sense. It is an experience from which one can recover. Moreover, the next incarnation — that of Voyno-Yasenetsky — was precisely such a compensation, a recovery. This is consonant with the concept of post-traumatic growth in modern psychology: the deepest crises often become precursors to the most significant development.
The scheme of "levels" performs another psychological function: it allows one to maintain the coherence of identity across radically different lives and experiences. I am not only what I do now, but the entire path that led me here: including mistakes, falls, periods of silence. This is a liberating anthropology: there is no mistake that is a final verdict.
5.2 Love for the dead: Anna, wife, and monasticism
The episode about monasticism is one of the most humanly precise in the session. Taking vows after his wife's death is explained not by piety, not by fear of God — but by fidelity. So as not to have the right to another marriage.
This is a logic pagan in its roots, but Christianly transformed: fidelity to the dead as a form of presence. Voyno-Yasenetsky did not want to "move on" in the sense that modern psychology often prescribes as the norm ("complete the grieving," "open yourself to new relationships"). He chose a different form of continuation: monasticism as a structural expression that Anna was and remains the only one.
From a psychological perspective, this is an example of how a religious institution can become a container for unbearable grief. The monastic vow of celibacy, taken out of love rather than ascetic ideology, transforms loss into a life structure. This is not pathological grief — it is its transformation into a form of service.
In the spiritual world, according to the session, Luke descended to Anna — she is at the 18th level, he at the 22nd. The hierarchy of levels did not separate them: it required movement towards each other. This is a touching detail that is hard to call accidental — even if behind it lies not a real message from the afterlife, but an accurate intuition about how true love works: it does not disappear with the difference in "levels," it requires the effort of descent.
Afterword: What remains
The text of the session — regardless of its metaphysical status — is a document about a person who lived a life at the rupture between incompatible demands: between the scalpel and the cross, between the Soviet state and God, between public service and personal grief, between his own faith and the freedom of his children.
He did not resolve these contradictions — he endured them. And that is precisely why his figure continues to attract: not as an example of a "correct" life in the sense of conforming to some canon, but as an example of a life lived with open eyes in conditions that presupposed either blindness or brokenness.
The session adds a few strokes to this image that are not found in hagiography: a fall in a past life, blindness as a psychosomatic defense, unwillingness to pressure children with faith, a readiness to think symmetrically about warring peoples. All these are traits not of a saint in the iconographic sense, but of a human being in the fullest sense of the word: complex, inconsistent, mistaken — and yet capable of such fidelity to his path that the path bends him but does not break him.
This is what makes Luke of Crimea — simultaneously real and imaginary — a figure worth listening to. Not because he knows the answers. But because he knows how to live with the questions.
*The text is written in the genre of a spiritual-psychological essay based on a transcript of the session of the "Cassiopeia" Project dated November 6, 2024. The author proceeds from a methodological position: the content of the session is analyzed as a cultural and psychological text, without judgments about the nature of the contact.*
https://blog.cassiopeia.center/pryamoj-ehfir-obshchenie-s-duhom-arhiepiskopa-luki
Cassiopeia #612 Live broadcast. Communication with the Spirit of Archbishop Luke of Crimea.
00:00 Start of video.
13:10 Introduction of participants.
Irina: Hello, dear friends! Greetings to everyone! My name is Irina Podzorova. I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, fine-material worlds, and the Spiritual World. And today we have with us a conversation with an unincarnated Spirit, whose last incarnation was known to most people as Saint Luke of Crimea. His Spirit is already present with us. But I think he will tell us about his life and his beliefs himself. He greets everyone and thanks you for the invitation. I also want to say that he is also the curator of our doctor.
Maxim: Oh, I completely forgot, guys!
Irina: Yes, he asked me to say that.
Maxim: Guys, I completely forgot! Do you know that our Nadezhda Viktorovna, the head of our Health Center, has Luke of Crimea as her direct curator?
Irina: Yes, he just asked me to say that he is her curator. And MidgasKaus also contacts her, and Luke of Crimea also contacts her. The first is a biologist from the planet Esler, and this is an unincarnated Spirit who was also a doctor, a very knowledgeable one, and also, essentially, as he tells me now, was a biologist and a psychologist. Although he was a surgeon, in his Soul he was a biologist.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how should I address you? Because... First of all, I want to thank you for coming to us. Do we strain the Spirit if he died recently, let's say, and comes to us when we ask and want to talk to him?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): If he agreed, then you are not straining. Yes, I greet everyone! If he does not wish to communicate, he simply replies that he cannot come.
(Irina) I actually have had such Spirits whom I invited, and they said they were not ready to transmit information into the material world because they were busy with something else. That really happened. But this is not the case.
Maxim: I thank you. We have many questions for you. Even Nadezhda Viktorovna herself personally wrote a list of some questions. I will try to read all of them.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): So. Alright.
15:52 Spirit of Luke about the head of the "Cassiopeia" Health Center.
Maxim: Tell me, please, when did you start curating our Nadezhda Viktorovna, our wonderful head of the Health Center?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It happened even before her acquaintance with your... with our common Project, in whose egregore I am, by the way. It happened when she was also working with people (shows Irina how she was still seeing patients). She was a little over 40 then.
Maxim: So at that moment you became her curator? Tell me, please, how did it happen that you became her curator? Was it some kind of choice, some attraction... What happened?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Because we were acquainted in the Spiritual World, we communicated.
Maxim: That is also very interesting!
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, we communicated. And she learned about me when she was already on Earth. She learned about me and began to address me mentally, as in prayer. And that's how our contact began.
Maxim: I want to thank you for curating our beloved Nadezhda.
17:15 Spirit of Luke about his spiritual levels and the task of incarnation.
Maxim: Tell me, please, from what spiritual level did you come to this planet as Voyno-Yasenetsky Valentin? You were called Valentin, right?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, that was at birth.
Maxim: And is it easier to address you as Luke?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Better Luke, yes. Because I changed that name.
Maxim: I see. That is your spiritual name, so to speak, yes?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, Luke is my spiritual name.
Maxim: Luke, please tell me, from what level did you come into this incarnation?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): From the 12th.
Maxim: And to what spiritual level did you leave?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): To the 22nd.
Maxim: Oh, how interesting! To the level our Irina came from.
Irina: Well, I came from the 21st.
Maxim: Ah, from the 21st!
Tell me, please, in this incarnation did you have tasks and plans that you fulfilled?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, my task was precisely healing – treating the sick, helping in the healing of body and Spirit. I completely immersed myself in medicine, because I was always drawn to do this. It was my task – to help people using medical knowledge.
(Irina) So he is into healing. He came with that task.
Maxim: I see.
18:49 Spirit of Luke about his incarnations.
Maxim: Luke, I watched videos about you, read about you, and it seems to me that you have incarnated on Earth more than once?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, more than once.
Maxim: It seems to me that you are of a very high spiritual flight. An ordinary person, an ordinary Spirit, cannot dedicate themselves so much to people, the world, and life. Tell me, please, how many incarnations have you had on this planet in total?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): On this planet, it was my 13th incarnation.
Maxim: And what other significant incarnations have you had on Earth?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): A significant incarnation on Earth for me was in the family of Jesus Christ. I was his younger brother, born of Mary and Joseph, and my name was Jonah.
Maxim: That is news!
Irina: I'm interested too. So he is one of the sons of the Virgin Mary, as I understand it, besides Jesus.
Maxim: Wait... What other incarnations were there?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I also had an incarnation as an assistant, a disciple... That was before the life in the body of Jonah, the brother of Jesus Christ. I was also incarnated in Israel. And it was an incarnation as a disciple of the prophet Daniel (shows him to Irina), who, after the Babylonian captivity, taught how to transmit information correctly. Like how contactees are taught now, but back then they weren't called contactees, they were called prophets. So he was a teacher, a guide on the spiritual path. That was Daniel, and I was his disciple.
Maxim: Tell me, please, are all your incarnations related to spiritual growth? Or were there some simple ones?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): There were many different incarnations. I just named the significant ones for me. And my last incarnation was as a man. It was also on Earth, but insignificant. I was a worker (shows China), a simple worker at a factory processing some food products.
(Irina) He shows me, it's somewhere around the beginning of the 19th century, I think.
Maxim: I see.
Irina: Ah! I understand: he left that incarnation at the beginning of the 19th century. Somewhere on the ocean shore (he shows me the ocean that separates China and Japan) a big city, right on the shore, like Shanghai perhaps. And he lived there. But it was an insignificant incarnation.
Maxim: I see. Tell me, please, what about your previous incarnation that made you leave at the 12th level?
Irina: That was precisely the previous one – in China.
Maxim: In China, yes? And why did you leave... At what level did you come into that Chinese incarnation, do you remember?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): From the 18th.
Maxim: And why did you fall to the 12th level? What contributed to that?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Disbelief in God, materialism, a materialistic perception contributed to it. And this contributed to the fact that I did not fulfill my tasks there. When I came from the 18th level there, my task was to bring faith in God, but I did not fulfill it.
23:06 Spirit of Luke about the tasks of Spirits from different levels.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): The whole point here, Maxim, is that for the same actions, Spirits with different levels may experience different consequences. The higher the level, the lower they can fall if they do not fulfill their task. Because (how to say this in earthly terms?) the demand from them is greater.
Maxim: The higher the spiritual level, the greater the demand from the person?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Demand is not in terms of punishment, but in terms of responsibility. That is, the higher the level of a Spirit, the more energy of the Universe it can manage, the more Divine qualities it translates from potential into the practice of its life. And if it does not fulfill its task at a high level, it lowers its level more strongly, that is, destroys itself, than a Spirit that initially incarnated from a lower level. That one has fewer possibilities. Therefore, incarnations, for example, from the 18th level and from the 12th level, even with the same tasks, but if they are not fulfilled, can lead to different consequences. And even more so for incarnations from the 20th, 21st levels, that is, from angelic levels.
Yes, I know that Irina incarnated from the 21st level. I know that. Therefore, if she makes the choice not to fulfill her task and to abandon it, she can lower her level more than, for example, a person who has the same task but came from a lower level.
Maxim: I see. At the disposal of a Spirit that comes from a high level is a huge flow of energy from the Spiritual World, which can influence space more strongly than a Spirit that came from a lower level.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, and this strong influence on space will have a reflected strong influence on itself. That is, there is a reflection of energy.
Maxim: I understand.
25:25 Spirit of Luke about his love for Christianity.
Maxim: Tell me, please, where does your love specifically for Christianity come from? Why not for Islam? I know you moved to a country where Islam was also present, but somehow you chose Christianity. Where does such love for Christianity come from?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Because I remember it subconsciously. In the subconscious part of my memory, I had information that I lived with Christ in the same family, and I was always drawn to Him. When I heard about Him in church... My father, true, was Catholic, but my mother and grandmother were more Orthodox. And they told me about Christ, and I immediately loved Him. Since childhood, I loved being in church because I felt that these were my native energies. This is probably familiar to everyone who was incarnated at the same time as Christ.
(Irina) Very interesting! (smiles)
Maxim: Yes, you are right. Being the head of the "Cassiopeia" Project, I have made many such interesting comparisons for myself. And it still seems to me that I am living in some kind of fairy tale. (laughs)
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): You have probably noticed that those people whose Souls were incarnated during the time of Christ are still not indifferent to this Person. Even if they are unbelievers in this life only because they received attitudes in childhood that prevent them from accepting faith as something precious for their heart.
Maxim: That's right.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): After all, some people do not accept faith as a treasure, but understand it as an obstacle to creating the life they want. There are such people.
27:23 Spirit of Luke about the reasons for the absence of children in a family.
Maxim: Luke, I sometimes look at the chat we have on YouTube, and a person here asks a question.
(reads) "Tell me, please, what prayer should be read so that children start appearing in the family?" And in general, how should one think correctly or what should be done? After all, if children do not appear, it means God is not giving children to the family. What needs to be done for children to appear? To whom should one turn with prayers?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): A good question. It is necessary to ask your own Soul... Yes, turn to the Spiritual World and ask your own Soul if there is even a plan for the incarnation of other Souls? That is, it may not be the case. Because not every person comes with a contract to incarnate someone. There are different life scenarios, so to speak.
And if there is a confirming answer that there really was a contract between Souls for incarnation, then you can turn to them. This is, as you say, mental contact, or telepathic contact. I prefer to say "spiritual contact," that is, contact with the Spiritual World.
And this contact with the Spiritual World can be established (naturally, with the desire and faith in it) by any person to talk with the Spirits of those personalities with whom the contract for their incarnation was made. Because the birth of a child is impossible in principle if there is no Soul that suits you in terms of qualities, as you say, in terms of vibrations.
So that is the main issue that needs to be resolved. If this issue is already resolved positively, but there is still no possibility to give birth, for example, if there are some medical problems, obstacles in the body (the Spirit exists, but cannot come because of this), then it is necessary to eliminate these problems both on the spiritual and on the physical level. That is, to receive the treatment, the healing that is needed. But everything is individual there.
Maxim: I see. Tell me, please...
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And to pray... In general, you can pray to any personality you love.
Maxim: Can one pray to you for children to appear?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I am in the Spiritual World at the 22nd level, so prayers (which are a conversation with the Spiritual World), of course, can be directed to me as well, to talk with me. I know that prayers have already been written in my honor, I know there are icons, and I feel when people pray to me, but you can address me in your own words.
30:50 Spirit of Luke about praying to a non-canonized saint.
Maxim: Luke, please tell me, is there a difference, let's say, when a deceased person is canonized as a saint, or when people simply treat him as a saint?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Simply when they canonize him, when they officially include his image in the teachings of the church as a saint, then icons and prayers are written in his honor, special services are developed, sometimes even churches are built. All this directs a large flow of energy to this Spirit who is in the Spiritual World. But this energy varies greatly, because people who pray to a saint come with different intentions and different energies.
Of course, most send Love and gratitude. But there are people who pray, for example, for the resolution of their sorrows. They send corresponding energies. That's the only difference. And in communication with the Spiritual World, there is no difference.
Maxim: I understand, thank you.
(reads chat) Here they ask: does MidgasKaus's wife know about the questionnaire? No, she doesn't know. We didn't warn her about his questionnaire there. (laughs) This is regarding "Cassiopeia Dating" on VK. Mid's wife doesn't know. We're guilty, we'll correct it later.
Irina: Yes, I haven't told him yet, otherwise she will take him away from work. (laughs)
Maxim: Yes, yes.
Guys, you can find the spiritual level calculation on Google. Just type in the search: "Cassiopeia spiritual level calculation," and a link to the resource will appear. You can go to our website, you can go to the Telegram chat, we also have the spiritual level calculation there. You can find "Spiritual Level" and calculate it.
Luke, tell me, please, I heard a story that one of your relatives, before getting the surname Voyno-Yasenetsky, had the surname Yasenetsky-Voyno.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Well, yes.
Maxim: And why was the double surname reversed?
Irina: Why was the double surname reversed? Because that relative moved to another place where work required changing the surname. So that it would sound more harmonious, sort of. There was nothing special about it.
It was just for euphony. Because this family came from Belarus and partly from Poland. For appropriate sound, that is. Nothing like that.
Maxim: Luke, I don't know if you know the answer to this question or not. I saw it and want to ask it.
(reads from chat) "What kind of bread did Jesus give to his disciples at the Last Supper - unleavened or leavened?"
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Unleavened.
Maxim: Unleavened. Thank you, thank you.
34:28 Spirit of Luke about his tonsure.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what contributed to your decision during those terrible years of the revolution, when there was persecution of Christian churches, of the Christian religious egregore, to take monasticism, to take tonsure? What was it? What event contributed to such a drastic decision on your part?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Anna's death.
Maxim: What was Anna sick with?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Tuberculosis.
Maxim: I even know, she only came to the children at night in her final days, right?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): But it was her death specifically. I'll explain: she was my wife, I loved her very much, she was the only one. And despite some difficulties in our relationship, and they existed, despite all this, I loved her and saw in her the Divine energy, the embodiment of the Divine Spirit in every feature of her face and in her eyes. And when she left me for the Spiritual World, I decided to take monastic vows, in order to dedicate my vow specifically to my wife, in order not to be just a widower who could enter into a next marriage, but to completely give up that possibility.
Maxim: So for Anna's sake, you became a priest? And one of the reasons for that was the desire to remain celibate, so as not to break the vows made to Anna?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It wasn't just becoming a priest, but monastic tonsure, where celibacy is mandatory, which took place specifically under the name Luke. That was later.
36:33 Spirit of Luke about his children.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how many children did you have?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Four.
Maxim: And after you became a monk, who took care of the children?
Irina: He shows me a woman... Elena, Lena. I see the name Lena now. She is not a wife, she is like an assistant who helps him. He shows her in a white coat. So she is also a medical worker.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) And she agreed. Because I was busy both at work and in the church, and later I was busy, so to speak, in exiles, in prisons, in camps. That too, one might say, was a peculiar occupation. And she, by the way, herself offered me such spiritual, so to speak, services with the children.
37:36 Spirit of Luke about his arrests, exiles, and the case with the icon.
Maxim: Is it true that you were sent to the GULAG... I know you were sent to the GULAG after you took tonsure. Right?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): There was another reason.
Maxim: And why? What was the reason?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I was sent several times. The first time was for hiding and treating a person who was, let's say, against the Red Army soldiers.
Maxim: And why did you hide and treat him?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Because he was wounded. How could I hand him over? They would have shot him there.
Maxim: Did you need to heal him so they could shoot him?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Heal him, and then send him abroad so they wouldn't kill him. They wanted to shoot him for counter-revolution. And he was a person just like everyone else.
Maxim: And what else?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And then later, after the first arrest...
(Irina) He shows me how he was sent far away, to some cold place... To the north, like. He was sent north, yes.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) Then they released me because I was needed. My work was needed by the Soviet Union. They released me relatively quickly. Then they arrested me for some sermons. Someone wrote denunciations. They could have shot me. But they didn't, because high-ranking people, party leaders, for whom I treated their relatives, that is, performed operations, stood up for me.
(Irina) He even removed cataracts for someone, he shows me now – for some high-ranking official, his mother, ah, no – his mother-in-law.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) And he later interceded so that I wouldn't be shot. Because I always operated in the presence of God and prayed before it (shows how he hung an icon in his operating room). If you can imagine what that was like during Stalin's times.
Maxim: And they allowed it?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Well, there were attempts to forbid it. People came (shows Irina) and said: "Remove the icon, there's no place for it here!" And I said: "Why remove it?" And it was specifically an icon of the Mother of God, because I felt that we were very close. And when I came to the Spiritual World, I realized that in a past incarnation she was my physical mother.
Maxim: I felt there was some trick here! (smiles) So the Mother of God was your mother?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Well, yes, in a past incarnation. Not the previous one, but one of the past ones.
Maxim: Ah! In one of the past ones.
Irina: Because his previous one was in China, as he said.
Maxim: Aha. Tell me, please, how many incarnations has your Spirit had in this manvantara?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): 347.
Maxim: Tell me, please, there is an assumption that Saint Luke in the Muslim religious egregore is Luqman al-Hakim. Is that really true?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): That is not my name. Maybe there is a Luke there, because there are many saints. Maybe it's the Apostle Luke? I, by the way, know who that is. He was also my spiritual patron and curator. At the time when he was my curator, he was not yet incarnated. He later went into incarnation, I know.
And accordingly (shows Irina images), some commission enters the operating room, and they tell me: "What is this?! An icon is hanging. Is this a church?! Remove it from here!" And I say that I won't come to operate on people anymore if they remove the icon. Because I will not stay in this hospital if there is no place for this image.
And they removed it. I didn't show up for work. Then a priest came to me (shows some priest). That is, the hospital administration turned to the bishop, and he convinced me to work in that hospital despite what they had done. Because the people were not to blame for it. Otherwise, I didn't even want to return there.
Maxim: And you returned without the icon?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, but I want to tell you that for hanging that icon there, I could easily have not just been imprisoned, but even shot. For them, it was religious obscurantism, that is, suggesting to patients that it wasn't medicine helping them, but God. That's how they perceived it, that was the consciousness at that time. They could easily have started a case against me for deceiving people, creating an image before them that it wasn't advanced Soviet medicine helping them, but an icon. And that could easily be construed as slander against Soviet power.
(Irina) He smiles like that!
43:52 Spirit of Luke about his awards.
Maxim: I know that you were awarded the highest honor a priest can receive – the sapphire cross!
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I didn't pay attention to these medals, orders, crosses. They are merely the evaluation of people. I never aspired to them. And I had many awards, not just this one: from the Soviet government, from the church, from the medical community where my books were published. There were also certain awards there, including large cash prizes. I didn't pay attention to that.
Maxim: I see.
44:59 Spirit of Luke about the conditions for performing operations and the help of the Spiritual World.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how did you manage to perform operations without having a complete set of surgical instruments?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I know what time and what conditions you are talking about. Because I operated under different conditions. For example, when I was sent to prison, into exile, the very next day I would tell the prison administration who I was and that I was ready to help. And usually after a few days they would put me to work in that prison hospital. It could be some remote place, one might say, the edge of the then-world – tundra and so on (shows reindeer walking around). And what instruments were there? I used what was available, plus, of course, prayer. I had no other instruments.
But I now understand that many Spirits helped me. Many fine-material beings helped me. They worked through me. I can say I almost realized it, but being in a material body, it wasn't as clear as it is now.
46:21 Spirit of Luke about the causes of illnesses.
Maxim: Tell me, please, I want to ask you: my eyesight in my right eye has started to deteriorate a little. I understand it's due to nerves. If I pray to you, will you be able to help me heal my eyesight?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, of course, I can help. You can pray to any personality you wish. But again, it is necessary to look at the root of the problem and remove it.
Maxim: I see: to determine the spiritual cause of the problem.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, because prayer, unlike... I'll explain what prayer is now. It is an appeal to a specific personality. It is not like a magical incantation, that is, a set of words you read and automatically get a result.
Prayer is an appeal to a free personality: from one free personality to another free personality. And here, a request for healing must necessarily be accompanied by a search for the cause of this pathological state – both spiritual, energetic, and physical. It can be a complex of causes. And most often it is a complex of causes, because a person has a Soul, an ethereal body, a fine-material shell, and a physical body. And each of these structures is damaged in its own way, and each needs to be restored.
For example, the means aimed at the spiritual cause of the illness are applied by the person himself, by changing his feelings and thinking. On the energetic plane, that is, the ethereal, various healers can help him, both of cosmic origin, for example, cosmic plasmoids, as well as various energy flows that you call channels. All these are ethereal levels. Naturally, they will not make a person high-vibrational or holy, if the person himself does not change himself by his own will and does not raise his vibrations. I am speaking now in simple language you understand.
As for the physical body, it happens that the spiritual cause is removed, but the physical body is already damaged at the cellular level. And it happens that the spiritual cause is removed, the ethereal body is restored, but the physical body – it is more inert, and it requires additional restoration at the physical level. That also happens, and here each case is individual. Because there are functional disorders, including vision, and there are organic disorders, and these are different things.
49:55 Surgical skill of Luke of Crimea.
Maxim: Tell me, please, you saved wounded soldiers' shattered hip and knee joints, although no one had done that before you. How did you manage it? Tell me, please, did you sew it together, glue it? How could it be done at a time when no one did such things? Where did you get the information on how to do it?
Irina: He shows me that he sewed it together. But not just sewed it, but somehow connected each tissue layer by layer. And he also shows me...
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) My eyesight also deteriorated with age. And I did this wearing glasses – glasses that magnified greatly. And I sewed the different tissues layer by layer, using so-called topographic anatomy. It's in my book. It describes how to act for joint injuries.
But even that wasn't the main thing. The main thing – I used various antiseptics and antibiotics to avoid purulent complications. Because they cause osteomyelitis, purulent arthritis, and so on, which then require repeated surgical intervention, which contributes to the destruction of the already sutured joint.
In general, joints, like bones, have the property of fusing with each other. Because chondrocytes can divide and create solid cartilage tissue. Just as osteocytes can divide and restore integral bone tissue after a fracture. You just need to align them correctly. There was another problem: if a joint was shattered by an explosion or something, fragments might be missing, so to speak. And I could take that from the patient's own bone tissue (shows Irina how he takes a flap from another place). Or there were even metal inserts (shows some metal).
Maxim: I see.
52:40 Spirit of Luke about Stalin.
Maxim: Tell me, please, were you personally acquainted with Stalin?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Personally, no. But I wrote to him (shows how he is writing something).
Maxim: About what?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Some things related to persecution. That is, I told him to help relieve believers from these persecutions. Not just me, of course, I wasn't complaining, but believers in general.
Maxim: I see.
53:13 Spirit of Luke about relationships with family.
Maxim: (reads chat) Here is a good question: "When you give up, when despondency comes, how to lift your state, to set yourself up for a positive perception?" But wait, don't answer now. Why? Because I have another question related to this one. You endured so many exiles, tortures, humiliations, even your children's renunciation of you, and you didn't break...
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Well, not exactly renunciation. They exaggerated something there. We had good relationships with them.
Maxim: Good? Your children didn't renounce you?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): There were arguments, of course. After all, they were raised in the Soviet school. Moreover, one became a biologist, another a doctor (shows Irina). And they were also taught according to Soviet standards: that man descended from primates, that only the body exists, that there is no Soul separate from the brain, that the Soul is just a function of the brain. They were taught all this, and they believed it. Moreover, I want to say that the atheistic propaganda of that time was not just primitive, it was quite competently constructed so that children would believe it. If you studied in that school, you understand what I'm talking about.
And naturally, they were still very young when they went to school. They were children and perceived it as truth (they have open hearts). And they argued with me, said there was no proof that God exists, but I, of course, explained to them. But it wasn't that they judged me for it. They said it was my choice what to believe.
And especially the eldest son said: "My choice is to be a scientist." He was cold to faith, but I, naturally, did not insist. As they say, a reluctant worshiper is no worshiper at all. If I had insisted and said that he must go to church, that he must be saved, that he must follow the commandments, if I had dripped holy commandments into my son's brain when the person is not ready to follow them, naturally, we would have quarreled. But I am not only a believer, I also possess reason. And why would I spoil my relationship with my own children?
55:51 Spirit of Luke about his spiritual curators.
Maxim: So, you endured so many exiles, tortures, humiliations and didn't break. How did you manage to endure all that? What helped you endure such torment?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I communicated. Jesus came to me. I saw Archangel Michael, Archangel Gabriel, Jesus, and, naturally, the Mother of God.
Maxim: So Mirrah Count, the curator of our Project, also curated you?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, he came to me. I also saw the Mother of God. She often came to me – both in dreams and appeared in reality. When I prayed in the church (shows how he served), I could directly feel the Guardian Angel approaching with each person coming to confession and standing next to them (shows this to Irina).
This reality of the Spiritual World supported me. Because I knew that all my suffering would not be in vain, it would end with me developing Love, patience, and forgiveness, including for those people who persecuted me. And this would allow me to go to a high level. In other words, it would allow me to become angel-like, that is, similar to Angels. Let me remind you, I incarnated from the 12th level!
And therefore, as you said, I did not give up, I did not despair. My Spirit did not lower itself, my vibrations did not decrease, because I believed. And I communicated, and I prayed, and I knew that I had no other path. That is, it was such a choice of path. I perceived the suffering in exiles and the misunderstanding as a road, as a path to Christ.
58:25 Spirit of Luke about the dispute with atheists.
Maxim: Tell me, please, under what circumstances and to whom did you say that you performed many brain surgeries but never saw the mind there?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): We had a dispute (shows some lecture: people sitting). There was a dispute between atheists and believers, and I participated. And they said that God does not exist, because man has already learned a lot, flown into space, but has not seen God. That is, man has learned a lot, as they said, but has not seen God in nature. And that's how I answered. But much more was said there.
Maxim: So they told you that God doesn't exist because no one has seen him, and you said that you performed many brain surgeries but never saw the mind there either? (laughs)
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Well, yes. Because they told me that they should have seen God in scientific research, in all those flights, that God supposedly lives in heaven. And they imagined it (probably a bit childishly) that if the Bible says God lives in heaven, then as soon as you fly beyond the atmosphere – God is right there. That's it. And so I said that when I performed brain surgeries, I didn't see the mind there. Why did I say that? Because we see only matter. We do not see that the Spirit acts within it, but it is there.
(Irina) As he emphasized.
Maxim: I see.
1:00:26 Spirit of Luke about baptizing children.
Maxim: Tell me, please, did any party officials ever approach you to baptize their children?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It happened a few times. I won't say often, but a few times.
Maxim: Was there ever a time when you refused to baptize children?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): No.
Maxim: There wasn't, right?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): No.
Maxim: And how many times did you baptize in total?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Many, many times.
(Irina) He didn't count. He was a priest.
Maxim: I see.
1:01:04 Spirit of Luke about interrogations and forgiving enemies.
Maxim: So. Tell me, please, were you able to forgive everyone who tortured you and sent you to suffering?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): What do you mean "tortured"?
Maxim: Sent you to suffering, okay. Because there is information that you were tormented, beaten. Was that the case?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): No, nothing like that directly.
Maxim: There wasn't, right?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): There was just moral pressure. Because I always answered politely. Even during interrogations (shows) I always answered to the point. They asked me a question – I answered.
But yes, there was a time when one interrogator gave me a slap. He asked me again if I was against Soviet power. "Are you yourself," he says, "for Soviet power or against it?" It was an interrogation because I was suspected of something called Black Hundredism.
Maxim: And what is Black Hundredism?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It was a monarchist movement that was on the side of the White Guards, as counter-revolutionaries.
Maxim: Ah, I see. One of their factions.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes. And they were people who, using their faith, attracted people to fight against Soviet power. And I was constantly suspected of this, they tried to fabricate a case that I was agitating people to go to church instead of party meetings. And other similar things.
And one of them asked me (shows a young guy, an investigator during interrogation). They were all from the NKVD, there was a special department specifically for working with religious structures, with religions, or rather, not even working with them, but fighting them. It was called the "Department for Combating Religious Prejudices." Accordingly, any religion was a prejudice for them.
Maxim: I see.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And he asked me: "Are you against Soviet power or are you for Soviet power?" I never lied and said that Soviet power had done a lot of good: it gave good, fair laws, gave everyone work, pensions, etc. It provided certain social benefits, so I am for Soviet power. But I am against the methods used by this power to introduce communism into society. Because it is violence, it is executions, it is death. And behind this stands Satan.
When I said that behind these actions stands Satan (but I am not against Soviet power itself), he hit me. And I said: "The fact that you just hit me, you thereby showed that you have already spiritually lost. Because if you hadn't spiritually lost, you would have found arguments." And he blushed very much with anger and ran out of the office.
1:04:48 Spirit of Luke about his awards.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how did it feel to receive state awards after this same state declared you an enemy of the people and sent you time and again to suffering and deprivation?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I was awarded for my medical activities. I accepted that as a sign of gratitude from the people I helped. That is, not from those in the NKVD who persecuted me for my faith.
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This is not even a kindergarten – it's a Child Development Center. And it will exist so that you can come to us with your children, take care of your own health and education. And your children will be taken care of by highly qualified psychologists who will test and develop your child. It's not just esotericism, or rather, esotericism may be present, but only with your consent. The main program will be aimed at developing various functional properties and characteristics of the child's body. That is, determining your child's internal predispositions, adjusting various correct psychosomatic reactions.
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Let's continue the live broadcast with Luke.
1:06:35 Spirit of Luke about his wife.
Maxim: Tell me, please, was there any other love in your life besides your wife?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): As for a woman – no.
Maxim: There was no other as for a woman, right?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): No, only one.
1:06:56 Spirit of Luke about losing his sight.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what is the spiritual reason for your complete loss of vision?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Very simple: an internal unwillingness and non-acceptance of the system, or rather not even the system, but the violence that was in the Soviet state. I saw a lot, many people came to me, they told me about the lawlessness of the authorities. And I was internally indignant at this injustice and didn't want to see it. And my Higher Self lowered my vision so that I would see less of the surrounding world and not lower my vibrations. That is, I didn't want to see – and that was the response I got.
Maxim: Really? It seems the same for me: I don't want to see something. My right eye is "failing." I really don't want to see something.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I fully realized that it was I who didn't want to see, already in the Spiritual World.
Maxim: I see.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Back then, I thought I was accepting everything. But some thoughts of condemning the surrounding reality slipped through.
Maxim: Okay.
It is, of course, always very difficult to deal with an internal spiritual problem on your own. Therefore, in our Project there are specialists who guide you to the Higher Self and determine the spiritual cause. You can always go to the website, type "Cassiopeia center" into Google search, and choose a specialist with whom you can determine the spiritual cause of any ailment you have. And not only that. We have very different and very cool specialists. And all this on a "donation" basis. That is very important.
I will someday write a book "Surviving on Donation." I promise you. It will be a very interesting book. It will tell how we as a Project exist on a donation basis.
Irina: Especially when masters start guiding to the Higher Self on a donation basis, then they come to you and say things... That also needs to be written about in the book. (laughs)
Maxim: Yes, I will definitely tell in this book what they tell me after people leave a donation.
1:09:05 Spirit of Luke about his children and wife in the Spiritual World.
Maxim: Tell me, please, how many of your children are alive now?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): None. They have all gone to the Spiritual World.
Maxim: All have gone? And you saw them all in the Spiritual World?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes.
Maxim: Did you descend to them, or did they come to you?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I descended to them.
Maxim: None reached the 22nd level?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): No.
Maxim: Okay, I won't ask which level, that's the Spirit's personal matter. And did you meet with your wife?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes. At what level? She is at the 18th.
Maxim: At the 18th? Cool!
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): So I also descended to her (smiles).
Maxim: (reads chat) Some Ruslan needs to go to a master to see his Higher Self. "Ruslan, be sure to go to a master to see your Higher Self." That was conveyed to some Ruslan.
Irina: Yes.
Maxim: So, well, I still have questions. Because many questions were written, and I'm looking at the chat. Okay, let's move on.
1:10:09 Spirit of Luke about stigmata.
Maxim: What can you say about a phenomenon like stigmata?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It is damage to the physical body, created by the energy of the ethereal plane using a directed image combined with the person's faith in it. That is, the image of the crucified Christ is superimposed on the person. The person imagines himself in His place and believes so strongly that he is there that damage appears on his body. How are they formed? By certain ethereal energies that destroy precisely those places in the body. You see how strong ethereal energy is! And in the same way, it can restore a person.
1:10:54 Spirit of Luke about esotericism and magic.
Maxim: Tell me, please, here we are engaged in esotericism, we also convey certain Christian religious concepts. Do you think Christianity is capable of uniting with esotericism?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): You know, regarding unification, I can tell you that anything can be united if both sides desire it. It can be done with mutual understanding. Christianity and esotericism have accumulated mutual claims against each other, by the way: both Christianity towards esotericism and vice versa. I'll explain the reason now.
The whole point is that in Orthodox... You live in Russia, so we will talk about the Orthodox Church, which I, by the way, served and know the situation from the inside. And I already know the egregore, that is, the spiritual part of the church, from the inside. That is, when we read the word "church" in the Bible, in the Gospel, most often it does not mean the temple as a brick building, but the congregation of people, that is, the egregore itself. When you read "church," you can immediately translate it as "Christian egregore."
I know the situation from inside regarding esotericism, the attitude towards esotericism. During my lifetime, I also talked about this with many priests. That is, we called it not esotericism, but mysticism. Mysticism is precisely a person's contacts with the Spiritual World, various mystical phenomena. I wrote a book about this – about the fact that a person can communicate with the Spiritual World, can communicate with their relatives who have passed into the Spiritual World, that it is completely natural, that it is not a sin at all. The book is called "Spirit, Soul and Body." Have you read it?
Maxim: No, I haven't read it.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It is precisely about energies. About how everything in the world is filled with Divine energies, and a person can communicate with any of them. I just know that this book is still in the church. I wrote it specifically on the topic of mysticism. You can look at it. It is quite esoteric, but nevertheless it is still in the church. Because I presented it there in such a way that I explained to other believers what mysticism is.
And as far as I know, modern priests somewhat confuse mysticism, communication with the Spiritual World, with so-called magic. That is, with everything that is called magic, astrology – these things. And not with themselves per se, but with that understanding of them when a person, using these tools, begins to manipulate others. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): For example, when a person begins to cause harm to others with the help of magic. Or he begins to heal people with the help of magic, but does it incorrectly, disharmoniously, and only worsens the problem. Have you, in the "Cassiopeia" Project, encountered such cases?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): There are such mediums, prophets, clairvoyants, and fortune-tellers, that people go to and then leave with an even bigger problem than they came with. Have you encountered this?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And it is precisely against this phenomenon that the Orthodox Church speaks out. Why does it speak out against it? Because the task of the church is to restore connection with God, to raise vibrations, to develop Love and happiness. I am speaking now about the Church that Jesus Christ established as his egregore. And all these phenomena lead a person away from faith. They can even plunge him into despondency. And there are also cases where, for example, a person declared himself a healer, an incarnation of Christ, or someone who communicates with the Mother of God, he healed with his hands and forbade people from seeing doctors. And because of this, people died.
Maxim: That is also practiced, yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): This does not contribute to faith in God later, people begin to be disappointed in everything around them, because he did it disharmoniously. And it is precisely against such an approach that the Orthodox Church speaks out, because the Orthodox Church carries Truth. What is Truth? Truth is not just an idea, it is Divine energy that dispels delusion. And delusion is an idea that brings suffering. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And the church does not want to say here: "I forbid you, and don't do any of this." It merely expresses the opinion that in this sphere one must be very careful. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: I understand.
1:16:50 Spirit of Luke about contacteeism.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And in the sphere of contacteeism as well, it is necessary to be very careful. In the sense that any contactee may be approached by Spirits who will pretend to be someone else. These phenomena are known, and they are known in the church. And there were cases when monks in monasteries, while practicing prayer, fasting, or hermitage, began to communicate with the Spiritual World, taking it all on faith. But since their contact was not harmoniously tuned, and their spiritual heart was not completely cleansed, gradually, under the guise of light entities, those came to them who drove them to suicide, to madness.
Such cases are described in the church, they exist, you can see all this. You can, for example, read the books of Ignatius Brianchaninov on this subject, or even invite his Spirit. I know him. He will probably tell you more about this, specifically about esotericism in Orthodoxy. Because he wrote a book called "A Discourse on the Sensual and Spiritual Vision of Spirits." And he gives many examples there of how this can affect a person if he is, so to speak, not cleansed.
That is, why am I telling you all this in detail? So that you understand where Orthodoxy's attitude towards esotericism comes from. That is, this is a complex matter, requiring great caution. That's the first reason. The second reason is the church's teaching that the whole world is subject to sin. And it was specifically to remove sin from the world that Jesus Christ came. You've probably heard of this teaching?
Maxim: Yes, I've heard.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Why does the Orthodox Church teach that the whole world lies in sin? If you look around at what is happening in the world, you will probably agree with this to some extent.
Maxim: Especially now.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Why "especially now"?
1:19:23 Spirit of Luke about the causes of wars.
Maxim: Do you know what events are happening on Earth now?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): What specifically are you talking about?
Maxim: I'm talking about war, about the wars that are being waged.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): When I lived, war was also waged.
(Irina) He shows me planes bombing. He means the Great Patriotic War.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) So I went through that too, if that's what you mean. War always comes from misunderstanding – from the misunderstanding not even of politicians, but of people among themselves, of peoples. Because a politician in any country, when coming to power, looks for, how to put it, an idea on which his popularity can grow. Politicians even have special people who conduct polls, or simply informants, so to speak. And when they come to power... In my time, they became General Secretaries of the party, and in your time – Presidents. I'm not talking about specific countries now – the ruler of any country, regardless of nationality. In any case, this person, when he came to power, came as a fully formed personality. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And this personality already has its own ideas about which idea it can use to maintain this power. And not just maintain, but increase. That is, increase trust in itself, increase obedience to itself. After all, power is based on trust and submission. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Maxim: I understand.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And so, he looks for the ideas that are most popular among the people and begins to hype them up even more. That is, to heat up these moods in souls even more. If they are negative, it leads to negativity, for example, towards another people. And if this attitude is mutually negative between two peoples, they eventually start a war. Do you understand what I'm saying now?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): That is... If you are asking specifically... Are you talking about a specific conflict (because there are several on Earth): between Russia and Ukraine or between Israel and Palestine? Or some other?
Maxim: I am more interested, of course, in Russia and Ukraine. But Palestine and Israel also interest me.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It's just that I know that a war is going on there too.
Maxim: Yes. In general, the situation on the entire planet is very tense right now.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes.
Maxim: And there is a possibility of a huge war breaking out, which will be very difficult to control and manage.
1:22:36 Spirit of Luke about the attitude of Christianity towards esotericism.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): So that's what I'm saying: when you look around you, you will agree, for example, that human nature is in some ways sinful. That is, it is drawn to sin, even though all religions provide an example of Light. You will agree with that, right?
Maxim: I agree.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): If someone disagrees, dear friends, they can open the Sermon on the Mount and try to live by it for a month. You will see that in your body, in your mind, there is something that resists these commandments. Although they are good, although they are light, it is difficult to follow them. Perhaps you have noticed in your life, dear friends, that it is easier to do evil than good? Have you noticed?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): So, this characteristic of, so to speak, human nature is called "sinful nature" in the Orthodox Church, thereby denoting some of its causes. But we are not talking about that now, we are talking about the consequences. Since all people, according to the teaching of the Orthodox Church, are subject to this sinful nature, then esotericism (and I have already spoken about its consequences for the uncleansed spiritual heart of a person) can have catastrophic consequences for society, for people, if everyone starts doing it in a state of blocks, uncleanness, various complexes, etc.
Maxim: Of course.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And therefore the church is against it. So you understand why it is against it?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): That concerns the reason for the Orthodox Church's non-acceptance of esotericism. That is, it's not because esotericists are so good and Orthodox are so bad. It has developed from the experience of interaction between these two egregores.
But there is also the opposite phenomenon. I won't say about everyone, but very often esotericists also have some hostility towards Christianity and Orthodoxy in particular. Perhaps you haven't seen or encountered this, but they have some disdain for the church.
Maxim: Of course, they do. Many do.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): There is their non-acceptance, for example, of the fact why Christianity came to Rus'. In any case, there are often some kind of rejections.
And there are often such words: "Why do I need the church? I believe in my soul." And the church perceives these words as pride. Because it gathered to help. The church is a congregation. But here people say: "Why do I need these congregations that Jesus founded to raise my vibrations? I will go my own way by my heart." Of course, that is any person's right. But this right of a person gives rise to the right of other people to say that this is a manifestation of pride. Because for a Christian, pride is precisely the unwillingness to listen to the experience of previous generations.
So what kind of unification can there be here? Unification can only happen if groups of people from both the church and the esoteric environment come together to jointly analyze all the controversial places, for example, in the Bible, where esotericism is spoken of in a negative light. They can be analyzed and find out what was really said there. And they will start hearing each other, and then they will unite.
But for this, there must be a mutual desire – on the part of esotericists, several at once who lead large esoteric projects, and there must be a desire in the Orthodox environment. From among them too, if they want to unite, people must come forward who have studied esotericism and want to find something in common. That is, not to look for differences, but to find common ground. But it would also not hurt for esotericists who are suitable for this to read the Bible, study the basic Orthodox canons, so that they at least know what language to speak. Because very often people start labeling each other without even understanding the teachings of their opponents.
Maxim: Well, yes, that happens.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Therefore, a step towards each other, I can tell you, is possible only mutually.
1:27:34 Spirit of Luke about the path to peace in Ukraine.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And exactly the same step towards each other as I just said regarding esotericism and Orthodoxy must be taken by Russia and Ukraine if the peoples of these countries want peace. Precisely to understand each other. What does that mean? I will explain in more detail.
For a Russian to look at a Ukrainian not as an enemy, but as a brother who is afraid of dying from bombs, who is afraid of losing his sons, brothers, and so on in this war. Who needs this?! Do you understand what I'm saying now? That is, to understand the fear of these people, the anger of these people, the grievances of these people. They did not arise out of nowhere. And to be ready, naturally, to hear everything about themselves that they say in that state. Because it is clear that it will be a negative opinion.
Similarly, Ukrainians must also have a mutual desire to listen to the Russian side. Not even just listen (many of them know it), but understand. To understand precisely the feelings of the Russian: why he does what he does, for what reason all this happened? That is, to abandon mutual accusations.
I just know this from the egregore, because I am, as I already said, in the Christian egregore. And energies are currently going into the Christian egregore, including those related to the war, because both warring countries are predominantly Orthodox.
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): That is, they go to church, pray for victory over each other – and all these energies, all these thoughts go into the egregore. And I feel both the energies of Ukrainians and the energies of Russians that go into the egregore. They – both sides – are Orthodox. Therefore, I can say that there is mutual misunderstanding and mutual accusations here.
Look, even now I am looking through the contactee, and you can read in the chat that there are already certain manifestations. Right?
Maxim: Yes, yes. You can read it right in the chat.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, you can already read it in the chat. The whole point is...
I will answer a question from the chat now. Natalya, dear Natalya! Here is a wonderful question she wrote, or rather, a wonderful example: "How can one listen to Ukrainians when they are brainwashed? You explain to them, but they are hostile to everything."
You know, Natalya, I understand perfectly what you are saying. But before you listen to them, that is, to understand how to listen to them, you must, first of all, realize that Ukrainians may also sincerely believe that it is the Russians who are brainwashed. And if you keep calling each other brainwashed, this will not lead to any understanding. In general, give up the word "brainwashed" and just listen to the person's opinion, even if it does not agree with your own. That will be a manifestation of Love.
(Irina) That's what he just said.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) That is, they will call you names, you will call them names – and this will lead to nothing.
Maxim: Well, yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Except for a new round of this verbal conflict, which will escalate into war.
Maxim: Yes.
1:31:28 The Physician's Oath from Luke of Crimea.
Maxim: Before we approach the end of the broadcast, I would like to ask you: who inspired you to create the Voyno-Yasenetsky oath?
Guys, this is something masterpiece! It turns out that our medical specialists, when they graduate from medical institutions, recite not only the Hippocratic Oath but also the Voyno-Yasenetsky oath. I would like to read it to you just to show what it is. If I have time, all of it:
"1. I recognize human life as the highest value and good and will treat it as a Divine gift – a pledge of eternal life.
I see happiness and the meaning of life in Love for humanity.
I have no right to stop fighting for the patient's life under any conditions or circumstances.
I recognize that the patient is a living, suffering person, not a case from medical practice, and I pledge to alleviate or relieve them of suffering by all available means.
I pledge to treat any dangerous diseases even at risk to my own life.
Love for the sick person must be above personal relationships.
I pledge to feel the death of a patient as the loss of a loved one.
I have no right to do what I like, but am obliged to do what is useful for suffering people."
And you know, there is a huge amount of very deep meaning regarding people further on. I will read the last one:
"24. I will follow the voice of my conscience, professional duty, and this oath under any circumstances."
Tell me, please, how did you compose this oath? Did anyone help you do it? And why did you do it?
Irina: He tells me now that it is an excerpt from some lecture, sort of. He gave lectures and sermons. So it's an excerpt.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) I said it somewhat differently there, but the meaning is correct. So, the question is, who conveyed this to me?
Maxim: Yes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It was rather my explanation to myself of the essence of my profession combined with my faith. That is, I combined my faith and my profession. And here it is an explanation of how, in my opinion, a believer, an Orthodox person in this case (I was of the Orthodox faith), should treat his patients. That is, it is not directly the Hippocratic Oath, it is, one might say, the commandments of an Orthodox doctor as I understand them, of a believer in general.
Maxim: I see.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): You asked about esotericism just now, and I want to say that for me there were no boundaries between religions and nationalities. For me, God was always one, and I could talk to anyone – whether an esotericist, a Muslim, or an atheist, and I could bless him, and I could cross him before an operation (shows how he crosses).
And once I crossed a patient, blessed him. He saw it and said: "I am a Muslim by faith. Why did you cross me? That's Christian." And I answered that religions only divide on Earth, but God is one for all. Whether you are Muslim or whoever – God loves you. And the cross is a symbol of the Love of Christ, who gave his life to create this bright religious egregore, which helped many raise their vibrations and go to heaven. It is a symbol. After all, He was crucified on the cross, so it is a symbol.
1:36:11 Spirit of Luke about World War III.
Maxim: Tell me, please, what do you think about the war: will there be a Third World War?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): I think not, there will not be. I think the spiritual reason of humanity will prevail over the dark demonic intrigues that Satan and his Angels are currently weaving. Satan and his servants, dark Spirits, provoke people to bloodshed in order to humiliate God through the humiliation of His Creation.
1:36:45 Luke about the "Cassiopeia" Project.
Maxim: Tell me, please, you feel and see our Project and our egregore. What do you think is missing in our egregore?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Good question. What is missing in your egregore?
Maxim: Yes, what is missing?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Perhaps you should... Yes, I am somewhat familiar with the "Cassiopeia" egregore, but I am more familiar with the work of my contactee Nadezhda in the Health Center. So I will probably talk more about that.
Maxim: Yes, okay.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Because I am in contact with her. And I know about the tasks and problems of this Center. As you know, any endeavor has both tasks and problems.
Maxim: I agree.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Here I could recommend expanding the health-related part with some new devices. Perhaps you should even consider setting up your own laboratory. For instance, so that it has not only the "Oberon" but also other diagnostic devices to diagnose a person.
Also, I know that many specifically medical professionals come to your egregore. It is necessary to help them open branches of the "Cassiopeia" Health Center in other cities and talk more about their activities. Because often they are left to themselves, and their enthusiasm wanes.
(Irina) He's telling me now.
(Spirit of Luke of Crimea) And to expand the number of various devices. For example, physiotherapeutic ones.
Maxim: Yes, we plan all that.
What do you think about a device like the "Light Chamber"? It is, to put it simply, a bag-like thing where a person is placed and where all their cells are completely restored.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): It creates a magnetic field that restores the magnetic amplitude of oscillations in each cell.
Maxim: Yes, that's absolutely right. Simply put, each cell has its own vibration and ideal state. And with our devices, we create the ideal state of any cell in a magnetic field. That's right.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Yes, the body is restored, regenerated. It is cleansed of toxins, reparative processes are accelerated, that is, old cells are replaced with new ones.
Maxim: Yes, yes, yes. That's how it is.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): But I would recommend more devices specifically.
It would also be good, of course, to have more premises and workers. So that it would reach a medical level. So that esotericism could contact not only physicists (I know you have joint conferences with them), but it would also be good for you to contact doctors. So that, for example, a joint study could be arranged on the influence of, say, the physiotherapeutic devices you already have on the course of an illness. And for all this to be documented.
And also very good would be, for example... I know that you have spiritual psychologists who guide a person to the Higher Self. This is called spiritual psychology. That is, a person who solves psychological problems through the Higher Self. It would be very good to research this from a medical point of view as well. That is, to keep records of what the body's indicators were before the session, and, for example, a day after the session. That is, such research.
Maxim: We have such research, it is even documented. It exists in research institutes.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And it would also be good if the person then took tests and underwent examinations on devices like ultrasound, which are accepted in medicine.
Maxim: Luke, I'll let you in on a secret: my sister, an assistant, is coming to our Health Center, to Nadezhda Viktorovna. She is a highly qualified specialist in the field of pharmaceuticals.
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): And let's... I can... I know MidgasKaus, we often meet at Nadezhda Viktorovna's, and we communicate in general, I know him. Although he is incarnated on another planet, he leaves his body into astral space and also meets with many Spirits. And accordingly, we are in contact.
Let's organize such a study with your sister and him (he is also a biologist, like me), for example, on how some "Cassiopeia" methods affect a particular illness, and document it. And these documents, naturally, you will post on your websites.
Maxim: My sister is a real scientific medical worker. Until recently, she was very skeptical of us. But now she has gotten to know us, has agreed to help us, and is ready to develop our Health Center, in order to eventually try to transform it into something more globally medical with an esoteric slant.
Irina: But only if she is familiar with the topic of extraterrestrials and all that...
Maxim: She is getting acquainted little by little. She is familiar.
Irina: If she watches the videos, then of course she is already familiar.
1:43:10 Address of the Spirit of Luke of Crimea to people.
Maxim: So, well, I want you to address our audience and wish them something, say something, or recommend something. What should people do now to start living happily and be happy in this difficult time?
Irina (Spirit of Luke of Crimea): Without God, dear friends, you cannot be happy. God is the source of happiness.
Pray to God, that is, address Him, not necessarily from a prayer book, simply in your own words. Every day thank Him for what you have, and ask Him to direct your path to Him. When you ask Him, He will send you the energy of His grace and will attract you to Himself, creating circumstances in which you can learn to be happy.
A drug, for example, can make a person automatically happy, that is, happy without any effort on his part. But that happiness, when a person takes something and becomes happy, is temporary, and it does not lead to the development of the person himself, it leads to destruction and degradation. But in order for you yourselves, without any drugs, alcohol, or other stimulants, to become happy, you need to learn how to do it.
And this is impossible without solving the tasks that confront you every day: tasks to learn something new, tasks to help another, tasks to remove your own grievances, to remove your own fears, to heal and perfect your physical body so that it pleases you. That is also a task, because the physical body is part of your existence in the material world.
And if you accept all aspects of yourself, if you accept God and His world, then you will be happy, because you will be in God and with God. I wish this for you and send you the Light of my Love! I wish everyone healing, acceptance, contact with your Higher Self, and complete enlightenment!
Maxim: People are writing that no matter how many times they watch us, they have never received a concrete answer to their questions. Guys, please write your questions more specifically so that we can give concrete answers to them.
Thank you all very much! Yes, a huge thank you for your donations for the construction of the Child Development Center! I am one hundred percent sure that next year many of you will come to us and will be very happy and surprised by what we will do here for all of us. Guys, thank you very much! We are saying goodbye to you. Until next time! Bye everyone!
Irina: Yes, until next time! Bye everyone!
October 22, 2023
Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, fine-material civilizations, and the Spiritual World;
Maxim Rusan – head of the "Cassiopeia" Project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
LiShioni – representative of the planet Shimor, sociologist, specialist in the astral world and its interactions with the material world, curator of the "Cassiopeia" Project;
MidgasKaus – representative of the planet Esler, biologist, psychologist, specialist in extraterrestrial life forms, curator of the "Cassiopeia" Project;
Spirit of Luke of Crimea – Archbishop of Simferopol and Crimea, Russian and Soviet surgeon.
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