Zhirinovsky (aka Suleiman the Magnificent) and Roxelana: Two Spirits, One Love, and Three Lessons

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Preface

I am analyzing two contacts from the "Cassiopeia" project (contactee Irina Podzorova) – with the spirit of Zhirinovsky and with the spirit of Roxelana.

The first contact (#533) is with the Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky. This Spirit reveals his past lives. Among them are Reuben, the son of Jacob (about 4,000 years ago), and Sultan Suleiman I the Magnificent (16th century). That is, Zhirinovsky, Reuben, and Suleiman are the same Spirit in different incarnations.

The second contact (#754) is with the Spirit of Hürrem Sultan, known as Roxelana. This is a completely different Spirit – the very woman who was Suleiman's wife.

In this text, I will:

1. Retell the session with the Spirit of Zhirinovsky (aka Reuben, aka Suleiman) – based solely on the facts from the broadcast.

2. Retell the session with the Spirit of Roxelana – based solely on the facts from the broadcast.

3. In the afterword, analyze the spiritual lessons of Reuben's incarnation and their role in the chain: Reuben → Suleiman → Zhirinovsky, and also compare them with Roxelana's lessons.

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Part 1. Retelling of the Session with the Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky (aka Reuben, aka Suleiman) – First-Person, Based Solely on Facts from the Broadcast

I am a Spirit who, in my last incarnation on Earth, was known as Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. I came into this body from the 18th spiritual level and left it at the 10th.

How I died and what I saw after death

I left the incarnation five months early – my Angel consultants decided that I should not see the events of 2022, so that my anger would not lower my vibrations even further. First, I was in a coma: I simply existed in a warm, reddish space, like a dreamless sleep. Then, silver streams of rain poured down on me from above. I saw my hands – they were made of Light.

A beautiful youth with white hair, in long white robes, descended to me. He said, "I greet you, divine Soul." Half-asleep, I replied, "Call a doctor, I feel unwell." The angel smiled and said, "I will take you to the very best doctor in the Universe." I took his hand, and we rose. I found myself on a green meadow. The angel said, "Think of a home, and it will appear." I learned to create objects by the power of thought and built a white house with columns. Later, my mother and father came to me. My mother is at the 17th level, my father at the 12th.

What I understood about my anger and why I am at the 10th level

During my life, I judged many people and was angry with them. This anger created a dark force in my spiritual heart. After death, while analyzing my incarnation with my Angel consultants, I realized that it was precisely anger, judgment, and pride that prevented me from rising above the 10th level. I was kind inside, but my lack of restraint accumulated dark energy.

My past incarnations (from the session)

I was a teacher 22,000 years ago on a single continent.
I was Reuben, son of Jacob, almost 4,000 years ago in Israel.
I was Sultan Suleiman in the 16th century in Turkey. This incarnation was a failure: I executed enemies, mocked them, and hated them. For this, I was thrown back to the 5th level. I was sent to the 16th density of Earth, where I created the souls of amphibians to purify myself.
Then I incarnated on the planet Esler as a female teacher and rose to the 18th level. Then I came into the body of Vladimir Zhirinovsky.

My tasks and why I did not become president

My task in the Zhirinovsky incarnation was: to gain experience in financial management and to be a philosopher who knows how to manage material wealth. I fulfilled that. But I did not fulfill the task of patience and unconditional love.

I wanted to become president. I was told that I won elections, but unofficially. My Angel consultant explained: only someone chosen by the country's egregor can become president.

My attitude towards war and politics

About the Special Military Operation (SVO): I warned about it long ago. I knew the dates from conversations with deputies and Security Council members, not from spirits. I believe that NATO and the USA are fueling the conflict by pouring weapons into one side, rather than separating the fighters.

About nuclear war: I see that there will be none in the next five years, although the threat will remain.

About my son and pride

My son and I had strained relations due to financial disagreements within the party. I pressured him, manipulated him with fear, and was rude. I had pride: I believed he should come and apologize himself.

What I understood after death

I regret nothing, but now I know: you must always remember that you are eternal in Spirit, and the body is temporary. You need to live the eternal life, not just the temporary one.

I am currently at the 10th level. My mother is at the 17th, my father at the 12th. I want to rise to my mother. In my next incarnation, I will probably go not to Earth, but to the planet Disaru.

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Part 2. Retelling of the Session with the Spirit of Roxelana – First-Person, Based Solely on Facts from the Broadcast

I am a Spirit. In one of my incarnations, I was known as Hürrem Sultan, or Roxelana. I entered that incarnation from the 17th level and left it at the 18th. Later, I had another incarnation on Earth (19th century, Saudi Arabia), where I descended from the 18th to the 15th level.

My real name and origin

My name was Anastasia. I was born in early April 1503, in a small settlement called Husiatyn (territory of modern Ukraine, then the Volhynian Principality). My father was an Orthodox priest, my mother a housewife. I had two younger brothers.

How I was captured

I was 15 years old. Just before dawn, several bearded men broke into our house. They grabbed me, tied my hands, wrapped me in a carpet, and dragged me to a cart. My father rushed to defend me – he was hit on the head with a saber handle. I screamed and cursed; they laughed. My brothers hid; they weren't found. I was transported for several days across the steppes, then on a ship. I watched the receding shore and realized I would never see my parents again.

The slave market and the purchase

In Istanbul, they put me on a platform in the slave market. Men approached, turned me around, touched me, asked questions. I cried – for that, they slapped my cheeks to make me stand still. I stood there for several hours.

A richly dressed man bought me. Later I learned it was Ibrahim Pasha. A week later, he gifted me to Suleiman.

Life in the harem and meeting Suleiman

There were 52 concubines in the palace. For two weeks, Suleiman did not notice me. One evening, during an evening of dancing and music, I sang a Slavic song – about parents, about a field, about my native home. One musician picked up the melody. Suleiman looked at me for a long time. That evening, I was summoned to him.

I prayed before the door. I heard: "Enter." I entered; he was lying on the bed, smiling. I approached and kissed him myself. That night, he saw my cross and asked, "Are you a Christian?" I answered, "Yes, I believe in Christ." He did not force me to change my faith.

My qualities and struggle for survival

My main qualities: confidence, courage, intelligence, and cunning (the ability to keep secrets). I believe a true woman must be cunning to survive in a man's world.

I never attacked first, but I defended myself fiercely. They tried to poison me, wove conspiracies, especially Mahidevran. I fought with her. I sometimes showed cruelty, but only for protection.

Relationship with Suleiman and marriage

Suleiman was gentle with me, but stern with others. He didn't like it when people meddled in his affairs. I gave advice only when he asked.

For me, he disbanded the harem: first, he stopped going to other girls, then he distributed them to his aides.

When the issue of marriage arose, I myself said I was ready to convert to Islam. Suleiman asked, "Sincerely, or just for the marriage?" I answered, "I love you and I am ready for anything." The Mullah accepted me into Islam, but I continued to pray to Christ – it was a formality. We had a wedding ceremony.

My death and spiritual lessons

I was poisoned at age 55, at the end of August or beginning of September. Servants slipped poison into my food – my rivals paid them.

I fulfilled my tasks: to become a mother of six children (three died), to develop leadership qualities, to preserve my faith. The lesson I learned: even in the cruelest conditions, if a person does not lose faith in God and love for Him, God will lead them out into the Light.

My advice to women

Always love the men who are near you. Be grateful to them. Support them. Look in the same direction with them. Show them that you will accept them even if the whole world rejects them. Because behind a man's external sternness are gentle children who yearn for their mother's love. Do not judge their mistakes. Let them walk their own path. Just be there for them.

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Afterword. The Spiritual Lessons of Reuben and Their Role in the Chain of Incarnations: Reuben → Suleiman → Zhirinovsky

Now that we have retold both sessions, I will analyze the role of the spiritual lessons from the incarnation of Reuben – the first of the three mentioned by Zhirinovsky's Spirit. How did these lessons reflect in Suleiman and then in Zhirinovsky? And how did Roxelana (a different Spirit) become an important mirror for this evolution?

What is the incarnation of Reuben?

In the session, Zhirinovsky's Spirit says: "I incarnated in Israel as one of the sons of Jacob, the very first, who was named Reuben."

In the biblical story, Reuben is Jacob's firstborn. He committed a grave offense: "went and slept with Bilhah, his father's concubine." For this, Jacob deprived him of his birthright, saying, "Unstable as water, you shall not have preeminence." However, this same Reuben saved his brother Joseph from death, suggesting they throw him into a pit rather than kill him. He was not a villain. He was unrestrained and passionate, but not cruel.

The Spirit himself does not evaluate Reuben in the session – he simply lists the incarnations. But we can extract lessons from the biblical story and compare them with the subsequent lives of Suleiman and Zhirinovsky.

The lessons of Reuben that were not learned

Reuben's first lesson: Passion without control destroys status and position. Reuben lost his birthright due to a single thoughtless act. He didn't kill or plot conspiracies – he simply gave in to an impulse. Suleiman, already an adult with absolute power, showed the same lack of restraint, but in a hypertrophied form: he didn't just lose status (he remained sultan until his death), he lost his spiritual level – he plummeted from a high level to the 5th. Zhirinovsky, in turn, lost not status, but the opportunity to rise above the 10th level. The lesson of Reuben ("passion without control harms you yourself") was ignored in both following incarnations.

Reuben's second lesson: Rebellion against a father or authority figure has serious consequences. Reuben insulted Jacob by invading his bed. Suleiman executed Ibrahim Pasha, who was his mentor and friend – a father figure. Zhirinovsky, in turn, rebelled against  the political establishment, but remained in it. Rebellion became a karmic trait running through all three incarnations. But for Reuben, this rebellion was a single incident driven by passion; for Suleiman, it was systematic and cruel; for Zhirinovsky, it was angry but no longer bloody.

Reuben's third lesson: Inside a rebel can live a rescuer. Reuben saved Joseph. He was not unequivocally bad. Suleiman, despite his executions, built mosques, wrote poetry, created legal codes, and loved Roxelana. Zhirinovsky helped people materially, as he himself admitted in the session. But in all three cases, the bright side did not outweigh the dark – because the main lesson was not learned: lack of restraint and anger cancel out good deeds if they stem from pride and not from love.

How is Reuben connected to Roxelana? (through the figure of Suleiman)

Roxelana was not part of Reuben's incarnations. She is a different Spirit. But she became a mirror for Suleiman, and through him, for Zhirinovsky. Roxelana went through captivity, humiliation, the slave market, the threat of death and violence – but she did not become bitter. The main spiritual lesson she herself formulates in the session is: "even if everything around is bad, and a person is captured, in very cruel conditions, if they do not lose faith in God, Love for God and for others, then God will still lead them out into the Light."

Suleiman, having absolute power, became embittered and fell to the 5th level. Zhirinovsky, having only a political platform, also became embittered (anger, judgment), but fell only to the 10th level – this is progress. And Roxelana, having nothing but faith and love, rose from the 17th to the 18th level.

Notice: In the session, Zhirinovsky never mentions Roxelana. He lists Reuben, Suleiman, the incarnation on Esler, Zhirinovsky – but does not say, "And I was also Roxelana's husband." This silence is eloquent. He is ashamed. He knows that she became what he could not: she preserved faith and love through humility, not through anger.

Conclusion: What did Reuben's incarnation give to the whole chain?

The incarnation of Reuben gave this Spirit the first experience of lack of restraint without cruelty. It was a "warning shot": you lost your birthright because of passion, but you didn't fall into hell. Suleiman, possessing power, repeated the same lack of restraint, but with catastrophic consequences because he added cruelty. Zhirinovsky, finally, repeated the lack of restraint, but without cruelty – and his fall was not as deep.

If the Spirit had learned Reuben's lesson at the very beginning ("lack of restraint destroys your position"), he might not have become the tyrant Suleiman. But he did not learn it. Only through the fall to the 5th level, through purification in the 16th density, through the incarnation as a female teacher on Esler, and through the life as Zhirinovsky, did he begin to understand: anger is the same darkness, even if a "righteous cause" lies behind it.

Roxelana, being a different Spirit, showed him an alternative path: faith without anger. He did not take that path, but now, after death, he sees it. And perhaps, in his next incarnation (on the planet Disaru), he will finally choose her path – Roxelana's path, not Reuben's path.

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Appendix. On Possible Spiritual Censorship

Assuming that the contact with the Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky (also Suleiman) is real, and the Cassiopeia Project operates on the territory of Russia, an important question arises about the censorship of the Spirit's answers. I am not referring to censorship by the contactee Irina Podzorova (she merely transmits what she hears), but to spiritual censorship — the filtering of information at the level of the Project's curators.

The curators of Cassiopeia (MidgasKaus, LiShioni, and others) are beings who, according to the Project, see the Time Line and all potential variants of the future. Their task is to guard the egregor of the Cassiopeia Project itself. If the egregor is damaged, the Project will lose its ability to transmit spiritual knowledge.

A logical assumption follows from this: the answers of Zhirinovsky's Spirit are filtered by his curators and Angel consultants — not to hide the truth, but so that the Project can continue operating in Russia under difficult geopolitical conditions.

Why this is important

Now is not the time for detailed political statements from the Spirit. Now is the time for spiritual lessons at the level of individual personalities: how to cope with anger, how not to destroy relationships with loved ones because of pride, how to remember the eternity of the Soul. These are precisely the lessons Zhirinovsky gives during the broadcast: about his son, about his wife, about his own lack of restraint, about his fall from the 18th level to the 10th.

The curators, seeing the Time Line, understand: any additional political details would bring no spiritual benefit to the audience right now. They would only provoke unnecessary disputes and jeopardize the Project itself. The egregor of Cassiopeia would not withstand such a burden.

Therefore, the host Maxim consciously and cautiously steers the conversation from politics to the personal. He is not afraid — he wants the Project to continue its work in Russia. And he knows: the main thing now is not geopolitics, but how an ordinary person can avoid repeating Zhirinovsky's mistakes (anger, pride, judgment). That is why this broadcast was needed.

What remains behind the scenes

The curators gently guide the conversation even before the Spirit begins to answer. The Angel consultant supporting Zhirinovsky (who was with him during the broadcast) simply does not allow him to delve into topics that currently carry more risk than benefit.

The Spirit accepts this. He himself was a politician and understands what it means to work within a legal framework. He does not fight the limitations — he respects them, because he wants his words to reach people, not to be blocked along with the channel.

Thus, possible spiritual censorship in Cassiopeia is not suppression of free speech, but strategic omission. The curators, seeing the Time Line, are simply postponing some information for later — for times when the political situation changes and more can be said. And for now — for now, the broadcast contains exactly what the viewer needs, who is seeking not political sensations, but an answer to the question: "How can I myself avoid falling to the 10th level, and instead rise to my mother at the 17th?"

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https://blog.cassiopeia.center/obshchenie-s-duhom-vladimira-zhirinovskogo

Cassiopaea #533 Communication with the Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky

00:00 Start of video.

00:01 Greetings. Project News.

Maxim: And then – skip forward 10 minutes, and the communication will begin right there. But before you do that, be sure to hit the "Like" button. Give it a like, because that will help promote our channel: by promoting our channel, you enable us to broadcast our videos and produce them. So please like, subscribe to the channel, and skip 10 minutes forward if you're not interested in the news happening in the Cassiopaea Project.

As always, I want to start by saying that today's broadcast is dedicated to Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, and the Spirit of Vladimir Volfovich is already here with us, together with Irina right now, for probably about fifteen minutes. I've already had the chance to ask a few questions and get to know him a bit. Everything will be very interesting. I'm sure this broadcast will be watched not only by our "schizoterics" who watch us constantly and often.

Guys, don't be offended that I call you "schizoterics": it's just that for many other materialist people, we truly don't quite fit into their concept of perceiving the universe. So I lovingly call us "schizoterics" who are transitioning through transformations 4d, 5d, 6d, 7d, 9d, 12d – as many 'd's as you can come up with, because indeed, our world is transitioning, vibrations are changing, the vibration of atoms is changing.

(reads chat) Cool: "Greetings from Novosibirsk!" Hello, Omsk, Novosibirsk! You know, I want to say, I've never seen so many people right at the start of our broadcast – 2,500 people. I take it that Vladimir Volfovich was such a significant figure for many, such an interesting person, that even before it started, the broadcast gathered 2,500 people. Guys, that's actually cool, even for the Cassiopaea Project!

(reads chat) "Bald dad..." (laughs) I thought they were calling me bald again. I'm even trying not to shave on purpose to grow hair.

So, what was I saying, Irina?

Irina: About Vladimir Volfovich.

Maxim: Yes, about this remarkable man. Look: we have a chat called "Q&A. Live Broadcast." We created it specifically so that when the broadcast on YouTube ends, you can write questions in this chat for live broadcasts we will conduct. There are different platforms where we will connect with you later. Plus – under this video, there are links where you can find everything about the Cassiopaea Project.

By the way, Vladimir Volfovich is standing, waiting for me, and listening carefully to what I'm saying. So I'll read you a poem and gladly hand over the broadcast. Especially since there are 4,945 people. I can imagine how interested you will be to hear this poem. It is so relevant, so precisely... I don't know when she wrote it, but nothing could be more relevant right now. The poem is dedicated to our fellow earthlings and our brethren on the planet Disaru.

What a pity that humanity wages war,
That God's sons die,
The fire of discord still rages,
And I am complicit in this too.
But living Earth accepts
Our vibrations' lowly count,
Like a mother, she reconciles and saves
All those who caused her good, and harm.
And in the Cosmos, there is an Interstellar Union,
And there are no wars, diseases, or guilt there,
They live worthily, honestly, with the Spirit of God
The humanoids there, just like us.
Wealth and fame are alien to them.
With their consciousness, they have saved younger brethren on Earth
More than once – that's their calling,
So that stars do not go out in our darkness.
What a pity that our wars do not subside
Between countries, in religions, in the family.
They do not accept us into the Interstellar Union –
We have harmed the Earth so much.
The Creator changes this world like a garment...
I will not stop believing in Good.
I know: my brethren live there –
Earthlings on the planet Disaru.

Guys, I want to tell everyone that what I do as the head of the Project, for me and for those people around me, is all real: they exist. They exist in different manifestations, in different forms. The world is very multifaceted and, fortunately, not as narrow as we see it. And that world, which is filled by us around us, is structured through the prism of our perception. And the more conscious you become, the wider this prism of perception can grow and develop with you – together with your curators, your mentors, your Higher Self.

And the main goal of the Project is to introduce each person not to aliens, as you might think, but to their true inner nature, to their inner Self – the Higher Self, which knows all your previous incarnations, all your karmic tasks that you chose for this incarnation. It knows everything about your blocks, your problems, your illnesses, even things you couldn't possibly guess – it already knows. It knows much more, and our task, as a Project, is to introduce each person to their Higher Self.

Yes, it exists. Just like aliens do. I call them "our interstellar friends," because huge negative labels have been hung on aliens, and people, unfortunately, only see war, battle, and the seizure of lands in them. No one is capturing us, guys! Capturing us is dangerous: we are very dangerous. It's dangerous to give us new technologies, because we immediately start using them for military purposes. It's dangerous to give us various spiritual knowledge, because we distort it and use it to destroy entire tribes, clans, and everything else.

(reads chat) "In short, Skifosovsky!" Alla Filippova, I get it: give us Vladimir Volfovich, enough already! (laughs) And why not? We live on this planet, and here, fortunately, we are given every opportunity to develop our body, our Spirit, and unite it all.

(reads) "Is he done yet?", "Excellent poems." Yes, I'm done, I'm done. Vladimir Volfovich awaits you. I give the floor to Irina. I took 20 minutes.

Guys, the broadcast will continue to the end, until the finish. When we are satiated with communicating with Vladimir Volfovich, we'll try to end this broadcast. I don't know how long it will go on, I don't know what questions... Well, actually, I do know what questions you will ask, because I have the chat handy, called "Q&A. Live broadcast." I'll even open it now and show you what it looks like. Here (shows) in this chat (the link is below), you can ask all your questions that come up during our live broadcasts.

That's it, guys, I won't distract you any longer from the remarkable Spirit – Vladimir Volfovich. I'll sit down next to him and try to conduct this live broadcast.

And now, please welcome our star of interstellar travel. Iroчка, hello!

Irina: Hello everyone! Good evening, dear friends! Yes, a very good poem. I liked it too. I thank Maxim for reading it and thank the author of the poem, she was here. I hope you're watching us, greetings!

22:15 Introduction of participants.

Irina: So, dear friends, my name is Irina Podzorova, and I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations. And today with us is the unincarnated Spirit who, in his last incarnation, was known on Earth as Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. That was his incarnation.

He is present here as an exception, because the usual practice is adaptation to the Spiritual World for a year after leaving incarnation. But since many questions were addressed to him, he voluntarily agreed to come earlier with the permission of his Angel consultants.

Maxim: So, in principle, it's wrong to invite a Spirit if a year hasn't passed yet?

Irina: It will be difficult for him to speak, but he is here now accompanied by an Angel consultant. He will be supported by him, and also by our curators – MidgasKaus and LiShioni. They will give him the necessary energy so that he can communicate properly with me and transmit information.

Maxim: Excellent.

23:28 Peculiarities of communicating with the Spirit.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, tell me, can your Angel consultant forbid you from answering some questions?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): They don't forbid anything, no. Since he has already given me permission to communicate with the world of the living, I can say whatever I want.

Maxim: Thank you.

(reads from chat) "...It's been 30 minutes. Lots of empty text." Guys, to gather 6,000 of you, we needed to say a little bit of "empty text," as you call it. I understand you're not interested, but we can't do it any other way. We are a Project that exists because you watch us.

Irina: If you don't have time, you can always watch it later at your convenience, because this recording will remain. Just relax: everything is going as it is going. Every word spoken here by Maxim, me, and the Spirit of Vladimir Volfovich is not accidental. So just relax and receive the information you came for.

Maxim: So, dear friends, relax. No one needs to write that someone is torturing someone. Everything is fine. Everything is going as it should.

Irina: Just learn to perceive this world positively. If you suddenly realize that time is passing and you aren't hearing what you want, then it's time for you to relax, take a few deep breaths in and out, read the Esler setting, drink some tea, and then continue watching our program with renewed energy.

Maxim: See, someone just tuned in right on the 30th minute, when I finished my speech.

25:26 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on spiritual level at birth and exit from incarnation.

Maxim: So, Vladimir Volfovich, please tell me, from what level of incarnation did you come to our Earth, to this planet?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Into the last incarnation, into the body of Vladimir Volfovich?

Maxim: Yes.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): From the 18th.

Maxim: From the Spirit of Guardian Angels?!

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes.

Maxim: And tell me – this is most interesting: to what level did you exit this incarnation?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): According to the terminology of the Interstellar Union, I exited to the 10th.

Maxim: So you're at the 10th level? You didn't quite reach the 6th level, did you?

Irina: He says: "I am at the 10th level."

Maxim: It's just that many people think you should have ended up at some demonic levels. Some people perceive it that way.

Irina: He is surprised, looking.

Maxim: Because all people who engage in esotericism also sometimes wonder what's going on.

Irina: He is surprised, says: "I was kind inside, I was kind in my Soul, and some people completely undeservedly sent me to the demonic level."

Maxim: Thank you very much.

26:51 Number of incarnations of Zhirinovsky's Spirit in this manvantara.

Maxim: Please tell me, what number was this incarnation of your Spirit in this manvantara on this planet?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I had my 652nd incarnation.

Maxim: How many incarnations were on Earth?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): 19.

Maxim: 19 incarnations on Earth?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): But that's across all density levels.

Maxim: So in both subtle-material and dense-material worlds?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes.

Maxim: And in the dense-material world on Earth?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): In the dense-material, there were 6.

27:31 Past incarnations of Zhirinovsky's Spirit on Earth.

Maxim: Can you tell us about these incarnations? Who were you on Earth before incarnating as Vladimir Volfovich?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I incarnated 22,000 years ago on Earth as a girl (shows), who lived back then on a single continent and held the position of a teacher. And in general, in many of my incarnations, I was a teacher, an educator. This thread of transmitting information to other people, to other Spirits, went with me through many incarnations. That is, this is, in your terms, my karmic node, my karmic task for many incarnations.

I also had a significant incarnation a little less than 4,000 years ago on Earth. I incarnated in Israel as one of the sons of Jacob, the very first one, whose name was Reuben.

Maxim: So you even incarnated as one of the sons of Jacob?!

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, as the firstborn.

I also incarnated on Earth in the 16th century in Turkey as a ruler (sultan) whose name was Suleiman.

Maxim: Okay, managed to incarnate as a ruler, and what else?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): After Suleiman, I went to the 5th level.

Maxim: After Sultan Suleiman, you went to the 5th level?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes.

Maxim: Can I ask: why such punishment – straight to the 5th level? What state did you have to be in to leave?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I hated everyone and executed my enemies, tortured them – in that incarnation, that person, not myself, but the part of me that was incarnated. Now I have reunited and feel like just a Spirit, consciousness, mind, which now, during your questions, simply directs a ray of attention to different episodes of my long, continuous existence in different bodies.

I now remembered how I was at the 5th level, it was truly terrible. And I was sent to incarnate for 54 Earth years into the 16th density of Earth, where I created the Souls of amphibians, cleansing myself of spiritual filth. And after the incarnation in the 16th density on Earth, I incarnated on the planet Esler as a woman. And that was my previous incarnation before Vladimir.

Maxim: And on the planet Esler, you left, it turns out, at the 18th level?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I incarnated from the 5th into the 16th density level, from the 16th density level I exited to the 8th spiritual level, over 54 Earth years. I left ahead of time because ideal conditions for my incarnation on Esler presented themselves. Exactly those Spirits incarnated who matched my qualities so that I could incarnate on the planet Esler (shows Eslerians).

I incarnated there in a female body and worked, again, as a teacher of children. And after exiting the incarnation, I incarnated 85 years later into the body of Vladimir Zhirinovsky.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, thank you for such a detailed account.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And before that, I also incarnated not on Earth. I had a significant incarnation when I incarnated on the planet Burkhad. But that was a very, very long time ago, when Burkhad had not yet joined the Interstellar Union. I was a high-ranking military leader there, a general in one of the armies. They were at war there at the time.

Maxim: That's even more interesting. So you were a high-ranking military leader more than 22,000 years ago?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That was more than 15 million years ago, when there was no Interstellar Union yet, the one you were reading poems about. I was listening to those poems.

I also had an incarnation on another planet, I participated in a war that was with the reptilians 12,000 years ago, on the side of the Sirius civilization (shows the race to which Ashtar belongs, their image).

Maxim: That's extremely interesting: so you also incarnated into the race where Ashtar is from?!

Irina: He left the incarnation forcibly, meaning he died in that war.

33:43 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the tasks of his incarnation and reasons for exiting to the tenth level.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, I'll ask an immodest question then. It turns out that in the memory of your Spirit, when choosing karmic tasks on Earth, there are very interesting incarnations in those civilizations that fought, in those sultans who ruled. So you had sadistic tendencies, tormented people, and fought, it turns out. What was your task during incarnation on this planet Earth? What was your task as Vladimir Volfovich?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, I understand the question: my task upon incarnation.

On the planet Esler, from the 8th level (in a female body), I raised my level to the 18th. And there I already set the task of incarnating again on Earth to gain experience with my new qualities: the experience of solving problems of financial management, as well as scientific activity as a philosopher – a philosopher who simultaneously knows how to manage material wealth.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, knowing you not by hearsay, I am sure you performed your tasks very well.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): But I am now at the 10th.

Maxim: Regardless of how you performed your tasks, right?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I performed these tasks, but I did not perform other tasks, because all of this must be done with a sense of patience and unconditional Love.

Maxim: Can you tell me in more detail why you ended up at the 10th level?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Because I judged many people, I was angry with them. And this anger created in my spiritual heart... I understood this only when I came to the Spiritual World, but I didn't understand it back then. When I came to the Spiritual World, I analyzed my incarnation, both alone and with my Angel consultants, and came to the conclusion that I was often angry, judgmental (shows energies of judgment). And because of these actions, dark force, dark hatred, and a feeling of contempt accumulated in my spiritual heart, and there was also pride, arrogance.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, we have received so many questions!..

Irina: He is now saying: "I want to address the people who are watching me now on YouTube. I myself participated many times, when I was in a body, in various conferences and Q&A sessions. But I didn't think then that I would have to do it from another world – a world that is so unlike what you know now."

37:13 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the Spiritual World.

Maxim: Please tell us, what is there in that world that we don't know here?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): You don't know, many of you don't know, and I didn't know then, that you lived somewhere, in some bodies. You have already lived and gained experience, and many of you do not feel that you are eternal beings. You might feel it, but you don't know it with your mind, you just believe in it. But I now don't believe it, I know it for sure, that is, it's a different level of consciousness.

38:00 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on his attitude towards esotericism, contactee work, Freemasonry.

Maxim: During your life, were you interested in esotericism or aliens at all?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): It's not that I was interested, I knew about it. I heard that aliens exist, including from conversations with my friends. They told me they had seen various objects. And even one woman told me she had made contact. I believed it, felt it was true, and even wanted to meet aliens.

Maxim: Were there such offers – to meet aliens?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I was interested. I believed there was life in the Universe. I believed in God and believed that God did not accidentally create the entire Universe the way it is. I believed that, but I didn't see it myself, only heard that other people saw it, and even talked to this woman (shows some elderly woman with dark hair).

Maxim: Who was this woman?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Valeria. She was an acquaintance of my wife, a friend. She told my wife and me that she had contacts and received information from aliens. That was a long time ago, back in the early 90s.

Maxim: Did you use any esoteric tricks in your activities? Did you yourself contact the Spiritual World, or subtle-material civilizations? Did you have conscious contact?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No, no conscious contact. When I connected with my part in the Spiritual World and began analyzing my incarnation, asking myself where my various ideas and thoughts came from, the answer came to me: from my unincarnated Spirit, my unincarnated part, and from Angels. So I did contact the Spiritual World, but not consciously.

Maxim: Thank you.

I'll start asking questions we've compiled in the "Q&A. Live Broadcast" chat. Guys, I'll let you know when I'm reading questions from the YouTube chat during the live broadcast. For now, I need to read the questions from "Q&A. Live Broadcast."

Vladimir Volfovich, please tell me, were you a Freemason?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No. (laughs, smiles)

Maxim: You're smiling, why?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I didn't need it, it didn't interest me.

41:21 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the reason for his exit from incarnation. Belief in God.

Maxim: There is an opinion that your death was connected to the fact that you said too much. There is suspicion that you were deliberately taken out of incarnation.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I left incarnation 5 months earlier than prescribed by my program. But this was because my Angel consultants and the unincarnated part decided that, seeing the events of 2022, I would lower my vibrations and energies even more.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, did you go to church, did you believe in God?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, of course I believed (shows his image, praying in a church with a candle).

Maxim: What did you ask God for, Vladimir Volfovich?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I didn't ask for myself, I asked for my family, for all people, for everyone to be happy, and for there to be a just government that would create just laws on Earth based on Divine justice. I even read the Bible, as a child.

Maxim: In an interview with RTVI TV channel, when asked how you entered politics, you answered: "Everything happened in a supernatural way." What does that mean?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I believed it was fate. I walked this path from the very beginning, from childhood. I entered politics from a completely non-political family, that is, not from the political or party elite, but from the middle strata of society. I believed that fate itself was leading me, and I believed that God was helping me.

43:54 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on Illuminati gestures.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, in an interview with Dud, you often demonstrated known Illuminati gestures. Tell us, what significance did you and many other politicians attach to these gestures?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): For example?

Maxim: Well, for example, two fingers up.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Why specifically Illuminati? Maybe they used my gestures?

Maxim: (laughs) Vladimir Volfovich, you're still joking. Interesting, maybe they did use your gestures, huh?

44:33 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on vaccinations.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, people are interested, why did you get 7 vaccinations? What was the need to get so many?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Why did I get vaccinated? I generally got vaccinated against all diseases. It's protection. I had a doctor (shows a man), we discussed this issue, and he said that at my age, with my illnesses (shows – there was something wrong with his heart), it's better to protect myself because I constantly communicate with people. I continued working after retiring.

Maxim: So you got vaccinated against all possible diseases? Did you consider this normal, correct?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, of course, I got vaccinated against everything. Even when traveling to another country where, for example, there was a risk of catching an infection not found in Russia, I would go to a private hospital and get vaccinated against that infection, that contagion, that could attach itself to me there.

46:09 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on prophecy.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, many people here believe that you made a deal with dark forces and used their prompts to prophesy various situations. Do you even know that we consider you a prophet?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No.

Maxim: Many things you said eventually came true.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I said a lot, of things. Regarding dark forces – no comment. Those who say such things about me should first look into their own Soul and stop judging other people they don't personally know in life.

Maxim: Thank you. Good answer.

46:53 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the transition to the Spiritual World.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, after you left incarnation, what did you feel, where did you find yourself, who met you?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I was in a coma, unconscious. First there was an unconscious state – I felt as if I was sleeping, but without dreams. Just existing in a warm reddish space, as if rocking on waves, but not realizing where you are, what's happening to you. It's like a dream, but very deep, impossible to wake up from. Then, I didn't know what was happening to my body, and I didn't even perceive myself as a person, my consciousness was suppressed.

Suddenly, I saw from above that some streams of rain were falling on me, but they were silvery in color. I looked and began to see my hands. But they weren't ordinary hands, they seemed made of Light. I didn't understand what was happening.

I started remembering that I was lying in a hospital. I looked around, but I didn't see any hospital, it was just an empty space. Then a beautiful young man descended from above, a youth with white hair and in some kind of long white robe. Light emanated from him. He reached out his hand to me, greeted me, said: "I greet you, divine Soul." I asked: "Who are you?"

Maxim: So, and then...

Irina: He's just showing me this.

(Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky) I asked: "Who are you?" He smiled and began to speak: "I am the Angel of God who has come for you." And as he said this, I saw with great surprise that his lips weren't moving, although I could hear him. Then I thought: "What's happening? I must be feeling so bad from the drugs they're giving me, something's wrong with my brain." And I said: "Please, call a doctor, call the physicians. I don't feel well." He smiled again, reached out his hand, and replied: "I will take you to a place where the best doctor in the Universe will receive you."

(Irina) He shows his emotions, joy.

(Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky) I looked at him, he reached out his hand, and his smile was so disarming that I trusted him. I took his hand, and at that moment his Light penetrated me, and I felt joy, delight. We started ascending, but it was instantaneous, faster than the fastest elevator. I found myself in a clearing, with a forest in the distance. And he said: "This is your world. Here you must build a house. Think about it appearing, and it will appear." He began to explain to me that I had already been freed from the body.

Maxim: So, and what happened next?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Then I stood in the middle of a green meadow and already saw my body. It was the same as my ordinary physical body. The Angel who led me stood next to me and said: "You can take on any form, just think." I asked: "How?" He started teaching me: "Mentally imagine in this space, for example, a table – that it stands right here, what it looks like." And I began to learn this (shows). Because I didn't know how to do it. Then, eventually, I started building myself a house (shows a white house with some columns).

And other Spirits began to come to get acquainted.

Maxim: Were there any among these Spirits who lived with you, next to you on Earth?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Not at first. Later, the Spirit of my mom and the Spirit of my dad came, but not immediately. When I just built the house, they didn't come, but later they came to me from above.

Maxim: So, interesting. Of course, I would gladly ask more deeply about the Spiritual World, but we have limited broadcast time. Well, conditionally limited. We've already done an hour, it flew by, I didn't even notice it.

Irina: It felt like 15 minutes to me.

Maxim: Here, hold some water.

There are so many questions, guys, I'll try to ask all your questions, both those you write in YouTube messages (I see them too) and in the "Q&A. Live Broadcast" chat. I read those first – which have already been structured, which people have already asked.

I'll try to finish this broadcast with enjoyment from the pleasure of asking questions, not with strange comments about why we delete other comments of bad intent. When you run your own YouTube channel, you'll understand why bad comments are deleted on YouTube, especially those that dishonor the Spirits present here with us.

54:12 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on Leonid Slutsky and Gennady Zyuganov.

Maxim: So, Vladimir Volfovich, is it true that Leonid Slutsky, who replaced you and became the head of the party, was initially agreed upon by you and appointed by you?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Not officially, but verbally – yes.

Maxim: So you saw him as your replacement?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, I saw him.

(Irina): At least, he reacts positively to Leonid Slutsky, says "Yes."

Maxim: What would you like to say now from the Spiritual World to Leonid Slutsky? I think it would be very interesting for him to hear. What would you wish for him, or tell him, or maybe recommend?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Good. I want to wish that he can fulfill the promises he made when we talked about the appointment, about the future after me. So that he fulfills the party's development program, and changes nothing without consulting others, that he be democratic.

Maxim: Understood, thank you very much.

Some believe that doctors helped you leave the world. Is that really true?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I told you everything I remember. And I told you everything my Angel consultants told me. There were no words from them that my incarnation was forcibly interrupted.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, please tell me, after entering the Spiritual World, did you change your attitude towards the Communist Party?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No, I haven't changed my attitude. I consider it a cruel party, not the ideology of the party itself, but its implementation. I think what was done was very cruel, very criminal, and it discredited the very idea of communism.

Maxim: Was Zyuganov a friend to you?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Not close, we just communicated, communicated for work.

Maxim: So you weren't friends, but just communicated?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, more like an acquaintance.

57:34 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on lobbying interests and passing laws.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, I'm going to ask deeper questions now. I hope they won't be too provocative. Many believe that you consciously worked in the interests of Europe and the USA. Is that true?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No, of course not. I consciously worked only in the interests of Russia. And not even all of Russia, not so much its state power, but the people, the population of Russia, who have the right to a decent life and more just laws. And I was always against corruption and against the infringement of the rights of ordinary workers, doctors, teachers, social workers, pensioners, children. I even protested against the adoption of laws that, for example, allowed inflation to rise and worsened the economic and civil situation of people.

(Irina): He is now showing how, as a sign of protest, he even left the hall. Shows how he argues.

(Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I told you I got angry about this and left. My blood pressure would rise, I'd take pills, and then I'd have trouble sleeping. I even took sleeping pills for a while.

Maxim: People ask: why did you pass anti-people laws? Why did your party pass laws that worsened the lives of ordinary people?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That didn't happen. Give an example.

Maxim: So it didn't happen? All laws improved people's lives, right?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Before I voted, and not just me, but also my party, which I led – there were other people there who voted for laws – we studied it and only voted for what we considered fair. Show me at least one law that worsened people's lives, for which I cast my vote?

Maxim: Well, for example, the reorganization of hospitals, they write. Why did you allow such a law?

Irina: What does hospital reorganization mean? He needs specifics.

Maxim: I understand, I apologize, Vladimir Volfovich. Our people here are very simple, unfortunately, party leaders probably don't come here. But I'll try to ask questions more correctly now.

Guys, if you want your provocative question to be asked – you hit like, subscribe to the channel, and write in the message that you liked and subscribed. And then you can ask your question here on YouTube, I'll see it and read it aloud. That is, specifically with the hashtag "liked and subscribed," I will read the questions. That's it, a huge thank you to everyone. Hit like and subscribe, and I'll check: if you're subscribed and liked, I'll definitely ask that question.

Vladimir Volfovich, do you think the pension reform, the increase in the retirement age, was necessary?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I believe it was carried out generally correctly, but before implementing it, it was necessary to create decent jobs for pre-retirees with decent wages. I believed that this law (I myself, as I already said, worked on a pension) would allow people to exist decently, to stay in their jobs without the threat of dismissal when reaching a certain age. Because such a problem existed.

I worked myself even after retiring, even though I was sick, I had illnesses. Nevertheless, I saw the meaning of my life in continuing to work, I didn't want to stay at home. But I believed this wasn't enough, it was a half-measure law. Because when introducing it, it was absolutely necessary to take care of those people who remained at the job they were used to, past the usual age, so that they could receive such a salary that, firstly, they could live decently, and secondly, the percentage from that salary towards their pension would be at least 40-45%.

Maxim: Irina, they've figured out that I'm a manipulator. Yes, indeed.

Irina: He's just saying now what he would like the Labor Code to be like.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, you so cleverly evaded the answer that I didn't even understand whether you were for or against raising the retirement age?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I was for it, but only with the conditions I just mentioned, i.e., wage increases, etc. That would protect people who wanted to stay in their jobs from being fired due to age.

1:04:05 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on meeting the Spirit of Putin before the current incarnation.

Maxim: Guys, I found one: subscribed, liked. Reading his question: "Was the Spirit of Putin known to you, Vladimir Volfovich, before this incarnation?"

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes.

Maxim: Where did you meet?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I don't think I can answer such questions without his presence. Just acquaintances.

Maxim: So you were acquainted through incarnations in different worlds?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, we were acquainted, we incarnated together numerous times.

Maxim: Excellent. Thank you, Vladimir Volfovich. I won't ask any more questions about Vladimir Vladimirovich.

1:04:45 Spirit of Zhirinovsky about his curators.

Maxim: Please tell me, did you have unconscious curators from other planets?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No. Only from the Spiritual World.

Maxim: Who curated you from the Spiritual World?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): The Guardian Angel, Angel consultants, and the unincarnated Spirit – my unincarnated part.

1:05:09 Spirit of Zhirinovsky about working in the State Duma.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, Anya asks, do you miss the planning meetings in the State Duma?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No, thank God I don't participate in them. I have already appreciated the peace I have now and realized how much energy I spent trying to change the existing political conjuncture in Russia and struggling... (not completely unsuccessfully, I did a lot in that direction, but much remained to be done) – almost unsuccessfully struggling with political elitism and the elitism of a single ruling party. And it upset me.

Maxim: You didn't approve of the single ruling party, did you?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I believe there should be different opinions and discussion in the political space – in order to be able to choose the best possible scenario for the development of events, and in general, the direction of activity of certain state bodies.

1:06:31 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on other channelings.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, did anyone try to contact you after your death to find out about things?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, they tried, as I already said, such signals came to me, but my Angel consultants said it was too early, that I had not yet fully adapted to the new spiritual reality, and it could harm me.

Maxim: Could any of your Consultants, Guardian Angels, answer questions for you when people tried to contact you?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): They could answer for me, of course. If there were questions, they could.

Maxim: Did any of your relatives or party members try to contact you?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): In dreams, in their dreams, yes. Relatives.

(Irina): He is now showing small children – his grandchildren, or his daughter. He's showing a woman now.

(Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): We communicated in dreams. And with others too, of course: I contacted them mentally, just thought about them, and they were drawn to me when they were asleep.

1:08:12 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on Kazakhstan.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, you yourself are from Almaty, but for some reason you didn't speak very well of Kazakhstan. Did Kazakhs offend you? What do you think about Kazakhstan in general?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I think that the Kazakhstan where I was born and the Kazakhstan that exists now, that is, when I was there after the collapse of the Union, are two different countries. And I never spoke badly about Kazakhstan as a people, as hardworking people.

I spoke badly about those bandits or boors who made it a rule to rub it in the faces of all Russians that they are like aliens there – about the nationalists. Or rather, they aren't even nationalists, but chauvinists. I only spoke badly about those who were unjust to the Russians who built and arranged everything there, even their very state. I was very angered by the ingratitude of the younger generation, which forgot the precepts and blood of their fathers, who shed it not only for Almaty, but also for Moscow.

Maxim: I understand, thank you. Guys, serious questions about the war with Ukraine we'll ask a little later. Now we'll go through the most pressing questions, and I think at the end of our broadcast, I'll ask all the very provocative questions you write with the note: "Subscribed and liked." I see that if I'm not reading questions from YouTube right now, it doesn't mean I don't see them. I'm even writing them down on a piece of paper. So don't worry, everything is fine.

1:10:42 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the current President of Russia.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, what do you think about our current President? Is he capable of taking our country to a different level?

Irina: A different level of what?

Maxim: Any different level, in your opinion.

Irina: Need to be more specific.

Maxim: More specific, got it. What do you think about him?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I think that, having put on the European jacket of a democrat, he remained inside the same red communist he was. And he hides this from everyone. He shows himself as a democrat striving for a market system, for an economy, but in reality, he's for a return more towards a communist model of governance. Not the one that was in the Soviet Union, but a somewhat different one, but still with a communist orientation, i.e., one-man rule and increasing interference of state structures in private initiatives, private markets, private affairs, banks, and so on – in business. That's what I think of him.

Maxim: Thank you very much.

1:12:21 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on his desire and chances to become President.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, would you have liked to become President, and why didn't you become one?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Of course, I wanted to, because I had my own program on how to build domestic and foreign policy, adopt just laws, I have this program, you can familiarize yourself with it. Why they didn't choose me, or why I didn't become one, what's the question?

Maxim: Why do you think you didn't become President? They say many people voted for you, but for some reason you weren't made President.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I asked my Angel consultant this same question, just like you. I know that I won several times, I was told that.

Maxim: What does that mean?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That I got more votes, I was told this directly, but unofficially, one-on-one. And I asked my Angel consultant why it didn't happen, why I didn't become President, the ruler. He answered me that the president of any country, as the supreme commander-in-chief and representative of its society, can only be the person, the incarnated Spirit, who is specially chosen for this purpose by the society's mentors, or, as you say, by the egregor of that country.

You have such a word – "egregor." What you call egregor is not just a word, it's a huge spiritual library and a huge spiritual governing structure that attracts to physical posts in the society it is responsible for those people who can fulfill the tasks for which that society exists. I received that information and I'm telling you.

Maxim: Thank you, Vladimir Volfovich.

1:15:00 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on his last and next incarnations.

Maxim: Please tell me, do you plan to incarnate on Earth next time, and when?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I haven't thought about it yet, but I think my next incarnation should be on a planet where scientific, social, political, and economic progress have been achieved.

I have already thought about a possible incarnation on that planet you read poems about and called Disaru. I know what kind of world that is, and I have already thought about it. There exists a society closer to me, and it is at a different stage of development. But I will still think about it and talk to my Angel consultants. It's all uncertain, just such thoughts.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, do you regret anything in your last incarnation? Do you regret that you maybe didn't finish something or did something wrong?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I don't regret anything. My experience, such as it is, is experience. Even the fact that I came now to the 10th level. Thanks to this, I realized that when you are in incarnation, you must always remember that you are not eternal in this incarnation, that you have another life, and it is that life you must live primarily, as it is eternal, unlike the temporary body. That is, it's such an experience.

Everything I did, I did sincerely. Everything I said, I said from the heart, not from the mind. I was and I am what I am. And my life, whatever it is to you, is valuable to me and to those people who cherish what I did. And I am very glad that I was able to help many people, including morally, materially (he helped someone financially, shows).

And I remember that when I was alive, when I was in incarnation, I also thought about what life after death would be like. I thought about it because I read in the Bible that the Soul exists, and I believed it. I thought, what will it be like, and how will I meet God. And I thought that I would immediately ask Him to send me back to Earth so that I could help others. But when I found myself here, I realized that I shouldn't rush with that.

Maxim: Why?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I need to think everything over well and understand how to get back to the 18th level. There is much more Light there, and not far from that level – at the 17th – lives the woman I loved most in my childhood – my mother (shows an elderly woman).

Maxim: Your mother is at the 17th spiritual level?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): She is at the 17th.

Maxim: And your father?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Father is at the 12th.

1:19:21 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on his relationship with his son.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, please tell me, why did you have strained relations with your son?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Because we had disagreements over the financial issues of our party. And I pressured him too much, sometimes forcing him through manipulation and fear to contribute to losing his position, to accept my opinion. I was too rude and unrestrained with him. And because of that, he was offended (shows rejection), and our relationship deteriorated.

Maxim: Did you try to make peace with your son?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No. I had pride. I believed he should come to me himself. At the time I existed, I believed he should come to me himself and apologize for neglecting the advice of not only his physical father but also the man who did very much for him.

1:20:42 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on women.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, why did you have such a negative attitude towards women and your wife?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): What do you mean negative?

Maxim: Did you love women?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I loved my wife. The fact that I divorced her was because our personalities didn't match. I was very active, and she was quiet, very quiet. And I could behave very actively: say something, some word, could scold her (shows), was very critical. But that doesn't mean I hated her.

I got irritated, and any little thing could set me off. But that was my energy, thanks to which I was able to create that party, that structure that I created, and a lot was invested in it. I had a lot of energy, and I took it out on those close to me, because any irritant – anything that didn't match my expectations – I perceived very sharply and could get angry, express myself very rudely. But I let go of it very easily, I forgave very easily, and then I would seek reconciliation.

Not everyone liked this, and that's why we divorced. But we continued to communicate and actually got back together, though not officially. And we went through a marriage ceremony in the church (shows).

Maxim: You had a church wedding, yes?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): With her consent. And Galya is such a woman that she wouldn't have a church wedding before God with a man who treats her badly. She knows me very well, she saw me in situations hidden from the public eye.

Maxim: So you divorced because you weren't right for each other?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Our personalities didn't mesh, we contradicted each other a lot, argued (shows).

1:23:28 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on attitudes towards men.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, I'm going to ask a very intimate question now. You were often seen in the company of young men – how you bathed in the banya, relaxed. Please tell me, did you have any sexual relations with men or boys?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No, of course not. I despise such people. What does this question imply? Maxim, I can ask you a question too: have you never bathed in a banya with men?

Maxim: Yes, I have. Why were they specifically young boys, and why is there even video footage – such recordings?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): What recordings?

Maxim: Well, that you bathed in a banya with young men, non-party members.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Have you ever bathed with young boys, only with old ones?

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, I'm asking what other people ask me.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That person who asks, has he never bathed with boys?

Maxim: So I understand correctly: you did not have intimate relations with boys?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I know about this rumor, I know there are photos (shows an image of them swimming in a pool). But I was always bewildered by these rumors. And to a journalist (shows a man with a notepad) who also asked me this question, I replied: "Have you never bathed with men or swum in a pool? Or maybe you only enter the sea exclusively with women? Then you could be called an adulterer, because you would definitely sleep with all of them and cheat on your wife." But that's absurd, truly, to say such a thing.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, I've heard the answer, I understand everything. You don't need to lower your vibrations. Our Project exists to raise these vibrations.

Irina: He says he's bewildered – to think like that because of a banya and a pool.

Maxim: Many people think that, because that's the image they've formed.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That's why I ask them, do they really swim in rivers, pools, seas, or banyas only with members of the opposite sex?

Maxim: That's it. So you had no intimate relations with male representatives?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No.

Maxim: That's what I was interested in.

When you realized you were in the Spiritual World, did you try to meet anyone from your close ones, friends, acquaintances?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I already said that Mom and Dad came down to me.

(Irina) That's it, she doesn't name anyone else, just those two.

1:26:09 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the start date and reasons for the SMO.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, tell me, please, how does it happen – you said a war with Ukraine would start, and it started; you named some dates and practically hit those dates. Where did you get this information, where did it come from with such precision that you even hit the dates when you told people about it?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): The war with Ukraine, you say? Do you think this decision was made spontaneously?

Maxim: No.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And do you think it wasn't discussed, dates weren't discussed? Was everything so sudden – they just took it and started it out of the blue, exactly on that date? Wasn't there some preparation done, how much needed to be stockpiled? Do you even know that war is a very expensive project, actually?

Maxim: It's a very expensive and very profitable project for many.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): But to start something, you need to have something. Do you know what kind of personnel training is needed for the army's command staff, their subordinates, to start something on a certain date? Very many people actually knew this date, at least approximately.

Maxim: (reads chat) "That's not enough. What a disgrace of a question!" Ask serious questions, Allochka, and we'll gladly voice them.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I voiced what I knew from conversations within my party and from discussions with deputies and Security Council members.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, personally, why do you think this special military operation in Ukraine started, and why do we need it?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I already warned that if respected representatives of the Ukrainian nation, as they consider and call themselves and self-identify (self-identification as a nationality)... Where did they actually get it? But okay, I understand it's a person's internal feeling, what to call oneself.

I warned that if you obey your friends from the United States of America, they will ignite the fire of war in Europe. I warned about this long ago. All they needed was a war closer to the European Union. And it was highly desirable that Russia be involved as the main competitor of the United States of America, both militarily, and in trade, energy (energy resources), and politically. And in the end, they succeeded.

I warned that Russia, the Russian people, will not tolerate the humiliation and destruction of their brothers by blood and language in the territory of any state. And the Americans, their politicians, military specialists knew this perfectly well, and therefore skillfully fomented certain moods in the Rada, bribing (shows money) certain political groups advocating the oblivion of the past – the oblivion of past life, past relations with the Russian Federation, and the desecration of the entire common Soviet and pre-Soviet past.

And this led to national clashes with each other, interethnic, interreligious, because there were already officially 4, even 5 religious groups officially formed, calling themselves the Orthodox Church, but desperately fighting among themselves. And this struggle was skillfully supported by the financial influences of certain very large magnates from the United States of America, who had direct ties to their government.

I warned: "Don't listen to them! They are not good uncles who want your development, your good. They will smile in your face, and behind your back calmly write a plan for your destruction, you are just consumables for them." I warned about this, but no one listened to me. I spoke about this long ago, before 2014, when Crimea was still Ukrainian.

Accordingly, I said that such a scenario was possible – when the Americans, contacting the political elite of Ukraine, would take steps that Russia would be forced to respond to as it did in 2014. Otherwise, if it hadn't responded like that, national self-respect and self-identification as Russians would have been lost.

To make it easier for you to understand... I understand that if you are watching now from Ukraine, you may be outraged, just as you were outraged then and said that Russia wants to destroy your country. If Russia, represented by the President or the government, wanted to destroy Ukraine, would they forgive you some debts, would they offer to conclude alliances with you that were beneficial primarily to you? You don't value anything. What is happening now in your country is a natural consequence of the choice your government made, address all questions to them now.

Maxim: I understand, Vladimir Volfovich, thank you very much. Indeed, there are so many questions right now, I'm sitting here, choosing, choosing, choosing.

1:34:16 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the likelihood of the collapse of the EU and the USA.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, do you think the European Union and the USA will collapse, from the point of view of the Spiritual World you are in now, and your view of how events may unfold?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I think the NATO bloc will collapse. Especially now, after what is happening. I look into the Time Line and see these events that are happening now.

And I think that now many countries of the NATO bloc will understand that a certain country is pursuing only its own financial and political interests, forcing other countries of the NATO bloc to work for it, producing finances for it, producing weapons for it, producing products for it. That is, one country makes slaves of the inhabitants of many other countries for the sake of its financial machinations and political ambitions.

You who continue to fan the flames of war in Ukraine are obedient slaves and pawns in the hands of a puppeteer who controls you through your own fear of being left without support from that country. But the people will wake up. Of course, the governments of NATO countries and EU countries cannot wake up, it's not profitable for them to wake up. The US government has a lot of compromising material on them, they themselves brought them to power.

But the people will wake up, I believe in that. And since democratic mechanisms for calling to account, for holding responsible those rulers who act against their own people in favor of other peoples are more developed there, such people can easily be considered traitors with all the ensuing consequences.

I believe this will happen both in the EU countries, and in NATO countries, and in the trio of countries: America, Canada, Great Britain.

1:37:42 Spirit of Zhirinovsky addresses the US leadership.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And if suddenly someone from the political leaders of these countries is here, if this video somehow reaches them, I will address you as well.

Maxim: Listening very carefully, Vladimir Volfovich.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Tell me, dear, respected Americans, you have strained relations with many Latin American countries. Even with Mexico, you have many frictions. Is the Russian Federation taking advantage of this? Did it meddle in Mexico, Argentina, Brazil? Is it bribing nationalist groups there that oppose American influence in these countries? Think about this question.

1:38:40 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on relations with the KGB and FSB structures.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, some are writing that our broadcast is ordered by our Federal Security Service. Please tell us, in the Spiritual World, do you have any relation to these structures?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): What relation could I have?

Maxim: Did you have any relation to the KGB or FSB structures during your life?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I am a scientist and a politician. I served in the army, also in the position of political officer, political leader. I am a scientist, philosopher, writer, educator, and party founder, but I did not work in state security services, I only communicated with them.

Maxim: Did you have former employees in your party?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes, there were some in the party (shows several people), but I myself did not work there and was neither a former nor a current member. I communicated, I knew who they were, but I myself did not hold those ranks of the state security service. When I served in the army, those were completely different services.

Maxim: Dear friends, our Project has no political undertones, we do not meddle in politics. There were many requests regarding Vladimir Volfovich to communicate with him – we are communicating with him. Our Project is curated by no one except ourselves.

Therefore, any of your fears, arguments, and assumptions about us being curated by some special structures is a blatant fabrication and your fears that the Cassiopaea Project, a highly spiritual Project, could be curated by some special services. The Special Service of the Interstellar Union is the main curator of our Project!

1:40:32 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on Boris Nemtsov.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, during a broadcast once, you poured a glass of water on Boris Nemtsov, why did you do that?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Because he hinted that I had syphilis. He lied to my face, and it was in the presence of a film crew, it was broadcast nationwide.

And in response to my quite fair remark that he should take care of the residents of his region (he was the governor of one of the regions, and I told him: "Don't you see what's happening under your nose? Your region has a lot of venereal diseases"), he started pointing some cheap newspaper or magazine at me and saying that supposedly something was written there about me, that I was sick with the same disease. And I just wanted to punish him for his rudeness (shows anger).

Maxim: For his lies and rudeness?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Yes. Because even when I said I hadn't said such a thing and nothing like that was written about me, he insisted that I had told it myself, meaning he lied. Why did he do it? Just to humiliate.

1:42:17 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on his image.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, you had such an image – a bit lawless, a bit of a jester. Did you deliberately adopt this image?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I spoke sincerely, I was what I am. I didn't pretend to be anyone in front of anyone, I was as I am. Mikhail Gorbachev could be tactful, polite, always addressed people as "Vy," never interrupted anyone, and appeared very cultured. But behind people's backs, he made decisions whose consequences led to the collapse of a great country, which he later, by the way, regretted himself.

Maxim: I understand, Vladimir Volfovich.

1:43:25 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the existence of the USSR at the legislative level.

Maxim: Please tell me, does the USSR still exist? I was told you know for sure.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): In the Spiritual World – it exists. It is there in the Time Line, you can go there. But in the physical – no.

Maxim: It is said that the USSR officially did not collapse, can you comment on this phrase? Like the USSR exists on paper, it hasn't been fully liquidated yet.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): If you look at the laws, the very creation of the USSR was illegal from the point of view of the Russian Empire, for example. Then the Russian Empire also didn't collapse. That is, it was illegal, just a bunch of people got together and passed a law that the Soviet Union now exists. But it wasn't signed by the acting government bodies of the Russian Empire.

1:44:26 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on Sergei Furgal.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, you had a very good friend and supporter – Sergei Furgal. Why didn't you stand up for him when he was convicted?

Irina: Why didn't he stand up for whom?

Maxim: For Furgal.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): What do you mean "didn't stand up for him"?

Maxim: Didn't support him in his difficult time. They say you abandoned him.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That's not true. We communicated after that, and in fact, I wanted to help him. But it was impossible because there were certain people against him whom he had offended (shows some very rich people). It was all set up, he was framed.

(Irina): I'm just saying what's coming through, what I hear.

Maxim: I understand.

1:45:33. Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the likelihood of nuclear war.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, from the point of view or perception you have in the Spiritual World, is there a threat of nuclear war? Will there be a nuclear war in the near future?

Irina: The word "threat" means possibility, as I understand it?

Maxim: Will there be a nuclear war? – I'll phrase the question correctly. How do you see it in the next, say, five years?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I see that there will not be, but the threat will persist. I see the threat will persist, that such thoughts will exist, but I don't see the nuclear war itself, any high probability of it, there is some small probability (shows percentages). But I don't see a high probability, so I think it won't happen.

Although they will try to provoke it in some way. The provocation of nuclear war is primarily carried out by those people who forbid – not advise, not even recommend, but it can be considered a prohibition – the diplomats of Russia and Ukraine from sitting down at the negotiating table to come to an agreement. There are people who do not advise, do not recommend, and say it's too early, i.e., they stop them. These are precisely the ones contributing to nuclear war.

Also, those people who make decisions on supplying weapons to Ukraine contribute to a higher likelihood of nuclear war in the next five years. This only further infuriates and angers the Russian military units and their leaders, and further fuels the conflict.

Think about what I'm about to say. Here are two countries at war. Imagine two people fighting in front of you, and you are watching from the sidelines. At the same time, you say you are against war, that you are for peace. But you constantly put weapons into the hands of one of these people: knives, clubs, brass knuckles. Can you say you are for peace, what do you think?

Maxim: I think no.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And you say, "Stop fighting."

Maxim: I see this categorical syllogism, when they say they are against war and give weapons.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Imagine two people fighting. One is stronger, more robust, more skilled, skilled in martial arts, and starts to defeat his opponent in the fight. And you watch from the sidelines and put weapons into the hands of the weaker opponent – first a small knife, then a dagger, then a machine gun. Can you say you are for peace?

Maxim: No.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And if you were for peace, you would try to separate them, right?

Maxim: Yes.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Regardless of who attacked whom. You would first separate them, and then figure out the reasons for the attack. Then you would be against war, correct?

Maxim: Correct.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And what do Britain, the USA, and all their satellites do? Did they, even for one single day after the start of the special military operation... A military operation! It was called an operation because a small part of the Russian military personnel was involved, a small percentage of the real military force Russia possesses. And such operations are called special military operations outside state borders worldwide.

So, after the start of this special military operation, did any senior political leader in the NATO bloc publicly say words like these: "Guys, brothers! You are Slavs, you are Slavic peoples. We ask you to calm down and sit down at the negotiating table. We are ready to be observers at these negotiations and ready to ensure that the interests of all parties are respected." Did any of them say that?

Maxim: No.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Publicly, I'm not talking about behind closed doors. Was it said publicly like that?

Maxim: No.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I know that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was very outraged before the start of the special military operation by the presence of NATO representatives in the Ukrainian army – as leaders, instructors, training teachers – and was outraged by the presence of certain nationalist forces that provoked national hatred among the people. Behind closed doors, Vladimir Vladimirovich and Dmitry Anatolyevich often used the word "denazification." And I know that this was announced to the people as one of the main reasons for the special military operation.

So, the leaders of the NATO countries or the NATO bloc as a whole, upon hearing these words from Vladimir Putin, did they say: "Let's sit down at the negotiating table, and you explain to us what denazification means. Why did you decide there are Nazis there? Let's work together on this bloodlessly, without war." Did they say that?

Maxim: No.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): So, can it be said that they advocate for peace?

Maxim: No. We had the Minsk Agreements broken twice.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Precisely not Russia and Ukraine, but other countries. After that, can it be said that they advocate for peace and reconciliation between these countries?

Maxim: No.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): And if they do not advocate for peace, but advocate for war, for the continuation of these hostilities, and especially if they invest their financial resources in it (and there are serious people involved, serious businessmen, scientists, not just random kids), then they have already calculated in advance how much it will cost them and what profit they will gain in the end. Otherwise, such support for the war from their side would be impossible in principle.

Maxim: Thank you.

Irina: So he has expressed his opinion that it is precisely these countries that support, not those that are fighting, that are pushing the world more towards a nuclear threat.

1:55:04 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the UN.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, what do you think about the United Nations?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That's what I'm saying: the United Nations was conceived as an organization of equal partners who adopt international laws to create peace between states across the planet.

Now look at how the United Nations reacts to the aggressive military actions of the US in the countries of the East, and how it reacts to the aggressive military actions of Russia in Ukraine? Both are aggressive, that's understandable, each pursues its own political interests – political, economic, that's all there.

But just look at the reaction of the United Nations, and you will see that the same actions by different states lead to different consequences for them. And this shows who the true master, albeit unofficial, of the United Nations is.

Maxim: Now we will definitely be accused of positioning our Project from the point of view of the Russian Federation. But guys, we have Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, his Spirit, on our broadcast! What do you think he should have said here, if he was in our country, led an entire party, supported entire directions?

1:57:23 Spirit of Zhirinovsky addresses Ukrainians.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I said this before too (shows himself speaking on a podium). I spoke about this and repeatedly warned that such a development of events was possible. And among other things, I warned the Ukrainians themselves, when I visited them, went there to meet with people, and warned them about it. But they didn't listen to me. They only pretended to listen, but they just perceived me as a weirdo spouting nonsense.

Now you see what is happening in your country. Now you see what those Kyiv authorities, who promised you would live in good economic, social conditions, that you would live in peace, wealth, and security, have led you to!

Maxim: And we are now seeing how they are fulfilling their promises.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): You see that the leaders of the Ukrainian state are not negotiating with a larger state with which there is a war, a military conflict. And by doing this, the leaders of the Ukrainian state are simply killing you, receiving grants from quite well-known financial magnates from abroad.

Maxim: Thank you, Vladimir Volfovich. I repeat once more: our Project is not political. Our personal opinion – mine and Irina Podzorova's – may differ from the opinion of Vladimir Volfovich. But we cannot convey a different opinion, unfortunately, because Irina conveys what the Spirit of Vladimir Volfovich tells her.

Irina: If I convey something else, he will simply refuse to communicate.

Maxim: Oh, that's an interesting point too.

Irina: He hears, so to speak, through my hearing what I say. If I say something else, he will say that I am an incorrect contactee, or medium, as he now calls me, that is, an intermediary. He calls mediums those people who act as intermediaries between the Spirit and the world of the living.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, if you were alive, would you believe that Irina is transmitting information from Spirits?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): No, unlikely. I didn't particularly believe in psychics or mediums. I was more of an Orthodox Christian.

2:00:31 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the future of Zelensky.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, since you are something of a prophet for us, because everything you said has essentially been projected, and especially now that you are in the Spiritual World and can look into the Time Line, what do you think will happen to Zelensky in the near future?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): The same as with Boris Nemtsov. These personalities are very similar, of the same order. They talked more to the public than did real deeds for their people, their nation, their country.

Zelensky had repeated chances to move closer to Russia, which he refused to take. And rumors reached me that he even wanted to. He speaks Russian well, visited Moscow, but fear of the nationalists in his country arose in him. Moreover, he knew very well which organizations financed them and from where: they have practically no obstacles in Ukraine, their hands can reach anyone. And they will call a traitor and punish for treason not the one who betrayed Ukraine's interests, but the one pointed out to them by their puppet masters from another country.

Maxim: Thank you.

2:02:38 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the likelihood of Turkey leaving NATO.

Maxim: Will Turkey leave NATO, Vladimir Volfovich, what do you think?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): If other NATO countries, especially America, pressure it and impose unfavorable conditions on it, or some laws it doesn't want to accept, the Turks might leave, they have such intentions, many of them (shows).

They are generally a hot-tempered people – the Turks, they will not tolerate any dictation over them, even if it seems beneficial for their country at first glance. They are freedom-loving, they will not tolerate it, they might leave if pressured strongly.

2:03:28 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the near future of Putin.

Maxim: What do you think will happen to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in the near future?

Irina: What do you mean "in the near future"?

Maxim: In the next 5 years. Will he remain the President of our country?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I think yes, he will remain. I think he will be President until his own exit from incarnation.

Maxim: How interesting!

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Either himself, or through a proxy, if his health, for example, is not very good. I think he will help, give information and certain ideas to another trusted person.

Maxim: Thank you.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): That's what I think, that's my opinion.

2:04:19 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the future of Ukraine, addressing its leadership.

Maxim: What do you think, Vladimir Volfovich, will happen to Ukraine? Will Ukraine remain as a state?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): Ukraine, I believe, lost all its chances to remain an independent state in the form it was – in these borders, in this form – when it refused negotiations with Russia, which would have left it sovereignty and economic independence upon fulfilling very simple conditions guaranteeing security and peaceful coexistence of different peoples on the borders of Russia and Ukraine.

When these proposals, these conditions were not met, and there was a refusal to negotiate, and they started (shows), but then were interrupted, Ukraine made its choice. And now, I believe, there is a very high probability that part of Ukraine – the country that is now Ukraine – will become part of Russia, like Crimea, and part will become part of Poland (shows), those countries that were the historical owners of these territories.

But what I said does not mean that Ukraine has no chance at all to preserve its independence and state. They have such a chance, but for this, I again urge them to listen to their common sense, their reason. And still, although it will now be harder and Russia will put forward more conditions than even six months ago, still go yourselves, on your own, to negotiate with Sergei Lavrov, with Vladimir Putin. Even if they are unofficial at the first stage. Don't be afraid, this will not be seen as weakness, it will be seen as strength of Spirit, because it is an admission of your mistakes. Remember that you and the Russian people, one of whom I was, share Slavic blood. This means we share one culture and one understanding of historical processes.

If you admit your mistakes, take responsibility for the disrupted negotiations, for those promises you did not fulfill, which led to this conflict, this war, these terrible explosions, when innocent people die and suffer – simply those who were in the wrong place at the wrong time... Remember that if you admit this and want negotiations with Russia bypassing your curators, the Western countries – you will be accepted and they will talk to you as equals.

Discard the image of terrible, crazy Russians who only dream of killing you all, capturing you, using you, and so on. That's not true. Because I communicated with people in Russia, and with people in Ukraine when my body was alive, and in Kazakhstan, and in many countries. And I can say: Russians, for the most part (of course, there are criminals everywhere, sadists everywhere, just scoundrels, in any country – in Russia, Ukraine, and America, I'm talking now about the majority of those I knew), Russians never leave their own in trouble. Even dying themselves, they will pull others out of the horror where suffering people are.

So come, make peace with the Russian government, and your country will remain independent. There will be no more war and no more of these terrible explosions, bombings. And regarding your fear of those who lead you, I can assure you: they won't do anything to you. Just as they do nothing to Russia.

(Irina): I conveyed what he is saying.

Maxim: Actually, I caught a phrase: "Very cool!" – they wrote in the broadcast. And I think: indeed, what you are saying, Vladimir Volfovich, is very cool!

2:11:26 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the special military operation in Ukraine.

Maxim: When will the war with Ukraine end, Vladimir Volfovich, in your opinion?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): My forecast?

Maxim: Yes.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I believe (again, this is my opinion) not earlier than roughly June-July of next year.

Maxim: 2025?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): 2024.

Maxim: July, summer 2024?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): But again, this is what I think. Because I can see one scenario. I base it on approximately how many human and military resources are still left in Ukraine itself and in the whole world, in all the countries that support it. And what is the limit of patience of their peoples, let's put it that way – not their governments, but the peoples. I approximately calculated such a timeframe. Of course, it could be earlier or later, but I feel that is the timeframe.

Maxim: July 2024, what date?

Irina: Mid-July, around the 15th-17th. "There," he says, "in the Time Line." I remind you once again, dear friends, don't take this date as some ultimate truth right now. I tell you, the future is multivariate.

Maxim: This is an assumption by the Spirit of Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky that the military conflict with Ukraine, and not only, will end by July, by mid-2024.

Irina: Yes, the future is multivariate. He saw that variant in the Time Line. Whether we follow it depends on us, I repeat once again.

2:13:36 Spirit of Zhirinovsky addresses his family.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, please tell me, what would you like to convey to your family? Let's say there is an opportunity now, and I'm sure someone will tell your family that you were on our broadcast as a Spirit.

Irina: "They," he says, "are unlikely to believe it."

Maxim: Believe it or not, what would you like to convey to your family, even if they don't believe it?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): What would I like to convey to my family? Naturally, I want to convey that I love you all. And I want to convey that I remember everyone and pray to God for you – that you may be happy.

And I want to ask for your forgiveness, especially Galina, Igor – for offending you, for sometimes being dishonest with you, deceiving you, for being rude to you, taking out my anger on you because of some internal problems, work problems, work issues. I sometimes behaved unbearably, and I'm ashamed to remember it, because you were my closest people, and you were not to blame for the fact that not everything always worked out for me the way I wanted.

Maxim: Thank you.

2:15:05 Spirit of Zhirinovsky conveys a message to the residents of our country.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, what would you like to convey to our entire country? I think many people who came to the broadcast will tell others that such a broadcast took place. What would you like to convey or say to our entire country?

Irina: The country?

Maxim: Yes. Imagine you now have a real chance from the Spiritual World to convey something to the country. What would you like to say?

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I would like to convey my gratitude to you, my dear Russians – gratitude for the patience and love with which you treated me, for your trust in me, my party, my program, for reading my books and remembering me. I feel that many learn politics, economics, and history from them.

I want to thank you all, my dear people, with whom I was in incarnation, both in the Soviet period and the post-Soviet period. To every person living in Russia, I want to convey enormous gratitude for the patience you have, for working for the good of your country, the people around you, for creating families, giving birth to children, even despite the complete uncertainty about their future. This is a great feat, and I thank you and send you the Light of my Love.

Maxim: Vladimir Volfovich, I also thank you. For me, in fact, it is an honor, no matter what anyone says now, to communicate with such a person as you. I never thought in my life that I would be able to communicate with you. But now I can, in the Spiritual World.

So I thank you for coming with our curators, answering our questions, and I also send you the Light of my Love, so that you can choose the right incarnation on some cool planet Disaru, where polygamy is allowed!

Irina: He's smiling.

Maxim: Guys, thank you all very much for the broadcast! I saw a question about Kazakhstan. Well, okay, one more question. Vladimir Volfovich, please, one more question!

2:17:55 Spirit of Zhirinovsky on the future of Kazakhstan. Address to the peoples of Ukraine, Georgia, America, Europe.

Maxim: What do you think our relations with Kazakhstan will be in the near future? Because people liked and did what I asked. I want the last answer to be heard.

Irina (Spirit of Vladimir Zhirinovsky): I think Kazakhstan will now see the example of Ukraine, and its political elite will understand the danger of having pro-American organizations that fuel nationalist sentiments, and they will move closer to Russia. I want to show you this example once more.

I also convey enormous gratitude to those Ukrainians who, despite the terrible events happening now due to the fault of your political leaders who could not come to an agreement with a huge country and ignited the fire of conflict, many of you, despite this, continue to treat Russia with respect and understand the role and the operation it is conducting. Even having lost your loved ones in this fratricidal war, you forgive us. I want to thank you for this, for this strength of Spirit!

I also want to thank the government in general, and the residents of Georgia, for coming to your senses and ceasing conflict with those regions – Abkhazia and Ossetia – which do not want to be part of your territory. You focused on your development, remembered that you are Orthodox, and that there is a commandment "thou shalt not kill." I want to thank you for this and send you the Light of my Love.

And to the Americans, ordinary Americans, Germans, French, Italians, British, I am also very grateful – for the fact that despite the choice of your governments, you still create families, give birth to children, do everything to make your loved ones happy. I ask you to pay more attention to your families.

And to the political leaders of these countries, I ask you to come to your senses and stop teasing, provoking, and fanning the flames of conflict with a nuclear power. This is very dangerous, in fact, for everyone! And I send you the Light of my Love.

Maxim: Thank you, Vladimir Volfovich!

Thank you, dear friends, for helping me conduct this broadcast.

We are a large, young, developing, growing Project. And we always welcome people in our Project who are ready to carry the Light we bring into the world. Thank you everyone, until next time, bye! Thank you so much!

January 29, 2023

Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, subtle-material civilizations, and the Spiritual World;
Maxim Rusan – Head of the CASSIOPEIA Project and the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development;
MidgasKaus – representative of the planet Esler, biologist, psychologist, microbiologist, specialist in extraterrestrial life forms, curator of the Cassiopeia Project;
LiShioni – representative of the planet Shimor, sociologist, specialist in the astral world and its interactions with the material world, curator of the Cassiopeia Project;
Unincarnated Spirit of Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky – Russian politician, founder of the LDPR party.

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https://blog.cassiopeia.center/vostochnye-skazki-velikolepnyj-vek-sulejmana-i-hyu

Cassiopaia #754 Oriental Tales. The Magnificent Century of Suleiman and Hurrem. The Russian roots of the Ottoman Empire's Sultana.

00:00 Start of video.

00:21 Conference fragments.

"...I watched the receding shore with great longing. I realized that most likely I would never return here again, and what awaited me ahead was unknown. At that time, I was 15 years old..."

"... – Tell me, please, how did you end up in the Sultan's harem?
– Our meeting with him was not accidental. I gave birth to his children, with whose Souls we had already agreed that we would be their dad and mom..."

"...Is the information that he disbanded his harem true?..."

"...Tell me, please, what qualities of yours do you consider most important that helped you?..."

"...What advice could you give to modern women?..."

01:26 Introduction of participants.

Irina: Hello, dear friends! Good afternoon, good evening, good morning, good time of day to everyone! My name is Irina Podzorova. I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, with the Spiritual World, with subtle-material worlds.

Today we have a very interesting personality – a Spirit who was known in one of her incarnations as Hurrem Sultan. I hope you have heard of her. A woman, a girl who was the wife of the Turkish Sultan Suleiman I. Maria will be asking her questions.

Maria: Hello, friends! I'm glad to welcome you.

Today we indeed have a very interesting historical figure as our guest. She is all the more interesting because she was a very influential woman, which was quite rare in her time. And we are very interested to learn about her life and her incarnation.

I greet you! And our first question.

02:33 Hurrem Sultan's levels of incarnation.

Maria: From what level did you incarnate, and to what level did you leave this incarnation?

Irina (Hurrem): I greet you, Maria! I greet you, Irina!

Into this incarnation, known to you as Hurrem Sultan, I incarnated from the 17th level and left for the 18th.

Maria: A level increase. Where are you now? At the same 18th level, or have you had other incarnations since then?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, I had one more incarnation, also on Earth. But I have already left it. I incarnated at the beginning of the 19th century in Saudi Arabia, also as a girl. I incarnated from the 18th level and left at the 15th.

(Irina) Her memory is specifically that of Hurrem.

03:31 What was Hurrem's real name?

Maria: Tell me, please, what were you named at birth?

Irina (Hurrem): Anastasia.

Maria: Anastasia, yes. We also have that information. Can you give us the exact year of birth? There is no exact information about this.

Irina (Hurrem): 1503.

Maria: In which country and region?

Irina: It was the beginning of April. Not a city, but a small village, called Husiatyn. And it belonged to some Khanate, some Volhynian principality, I don't know.

Maria: So, on the territory of modern Ukraine.

Irina: She shows on a map the territory where she lived, it's not far from Crimea, as I understand it, northwest.

04:24 Hurrem's appearance and parents.

Maria: What was your appearance like?

Irina: She shows me a red-haired girl with hair like copper. Tall, around 1 meter 80 cm, even taller. "1 meter 84 cm," she says. Slender, and she has a large bust. Waist... Not exactly thin, but average – neither skinny nor plump. And greenish eyes – bright, light, with a green color. White skin. Elongated face, straight nose, high forehead, and a mop of hair. She shows long legs.

Maria: Yes, there are historical depictions where she is almost a head taller than the Sultan. Indeed, a very stately girl.

Tell me, please, what family were you born into?

Irina (Hurrem): My father was a priest, and my mother was a housewife.

Maria: An Orthodox priest, Christians?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes.

05:33 How did Hurrem end up in the harem?

Maria: Tell me, please, how did you end up in the Sultan's harem?

Irina (Hurrem): I was sold as a slave.

Maria: So your village was conquered?

Irina (Hurrem): No, a raid.

(Irina) Like some Muslim band. It wasn't war, but just robbers who adhered to the Muslim faith. They sometimes staged raids from the south, from Crimea, to attack, loot something, steal cattle. And they would even sometimes take people, especially young girls or young boys, to make them slaves.

06:28 Was Hurrem's meeting with the Sultan accidental? Did they love each other?

Maria: How did your life change during your time at the court of Sultan Suleiman? How did events unfold after you were sold?

Irina (Hurrem): Our meeting with him was not accidental. I gave birth to his children, with whose Souls we had already agreed that we would be their dad and mom.

Maria: So you were able to sincerely love him, despite the fact that this relationship was initially forced?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, I fell in love with him. He was my first man. I fell in love with him not because he was a ruler, but because he matched me in vibrations, in soul qualities.

Maria: What soul qualities attracted you to him? How did he treat you?

Irina (Hurrem): Firmness, authority, courage – leadership. Confidence and at the same time affection. That is, he was stern with others, but affectionate with me. But at the same time, he could not be manipulated or controlled. He was quite firm in his positions.

Maria: Is the information true that he disbanded his harem for you, and after you, he had no one else?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, later that's how it became. He knew I came from a Christian country, so my heart was very wounded when he went from me to other concubine girls. Of course, I remained silent, but he felt it. And for the sake of our love, he first stopped going there, and then he gave the girls away to his other assistants.

08:20 Hurrem's relationship with Sultan Suleiman's mother and with Mahidevran.

Maria: What were your relations like with your mother-in-law, with his mother? How did she accept you?

Irina (Hurrem): Initially, relations were tense, because she considered me just one of the slaves sold as a concubine. I wasn't the only one there. She treated me with contempt, as a lower class, as a servant.

But when I gave birth to her son's children, she grew to love her grandchildren very much and became more favorable towards me, and we became friends. She even stood up for me against other concubines who tried to steal him from me, or rather, to entice him so that he would leave me.

Maria: Tell me, please, what were your relations with Mahidevran, the Sultan's chief concubine?

Irina (Hurrem): She was jealous, and we even fought (shows that there were such clashes when she attacked). She wanted to poison me, plotted intrigues.

09:36 Are the events of the series "The Magnificent Century" real?

Maria: Did the series "The Magnificent Century" convey your story accurately enough?

Irina: She knows what is being discussed. Because this series exists in the egregor.

(Hurrem) Yes, real events are shown there. But everything is shown more smoothly, whereas in reality it was harsher.

Maria: There was a real struggle for survival, as I understand it, for attention, for power. How do you remember these events, that time, that lifestyle? How did you manage to adapt to it? What qualities do you consider most important that helped you achieve your goal?

Irina (Hurrem): At first, I felt homesickness, for my mother, my father, my brothers.

(Irina) She shows that she had two younger brothers left at home.

10:52 How Anastasia (Hurrem) was captured.

Irina (Hurrem): I remembered the raid, remembered the last night at home. Because the raid happened towards morning, before dawn. Everyone was asleep, and several bearded men burst into our house. They grabbed me and started wrapping me in a cloth, like a carpet. They tied my hands and wrapped me in the carpet to put me in a cart.

My father rushed to defend me. He was hit on the head with the handle of a saber. Bleeding, he flew back against the wall. I wanted to rush to him, but they wouldn't let me. They tied my hands and wrapped me in this carpet, swaddled me so tightly that I couldn't move. They only left my head uncovered so I could breathe, and dragged this carpet with me outside. They were laughing, speaking an incomprehensible language. I understood they were joking about me. No, they didn't beat me, just tied me up and put me in a cart. I struggled, screamed, cursed at them, but they just laughed, pointed at me, and said something. I understood they were just mocking me.

I thought they would take my brothers, but they weren't there (shows that they hid somewhere). They weren't found. For many years I didn't know what happened to them, and thought they were killed. And I didn't know what happened to my mother. I couldn't talk to the captors and ask questions while they were taking me to the sea, because I didn't know their language. They transported me on horses. The one sitting in the cart knew a few words of Slavic.

We traveled for a long time, several days. When we had traveled far from home, they untied my hands and feet. But then I couldn't escape, because it was far out in the steppe. I wouldn't have been able to walk home; the area was unfamiliar to me. They gave me food. At first I refused to eat and didn't eat for several days, but they gave me water.

(Irina) Shows a halt, a campfire lit.
(Hurrem) They shoved some animal meat, cooked over the fire, into my hands. I felt such hunger that I grabbed it. And again, this was accompanied by loud laughter.

I understood, of course, that I was being taken to the sea. Because such cases had already happened, where girls were kidnapped for sale in Turkey. I tried to escape several times near the sea, because there were settlements there. I wanted to go there, but they watched me and each time brought me back. Finally, they just tied me with ropes to the cart by my hands. But they didn't beat me. I understood they weren't beating me to avoid spoiling the goods. Because girls with bruises and whip marks weren't taken.

Then I was loaded onto a ship, and there I met other captives. They were from other cities, and they were also being taken into slavery. I watched the receding shore with great longing. I realized that most likely I would never return here again, and what awaited me ahead was unknown. At that time, I was 15 years old. At 15, I saw my dad and mom for the last time, I never saw them again.

Maria: Yes, a very difficult ordeal.

14:55 What faith was Hurrem?

Maria: Tell me, please, you said your father was a priest. Were you raised in the traditions of the Christian faith?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, yes, that's right. I even prayed (shows herself kneeling on the ship and praying). They paid no attention to it. I had a cross (shows a wooden cross). Those transporting me looked at it, but they didn't take it from me. They just picked it up, looked at it, laughed, and left it.

15:40 Ottoman Empire. The slave market.

Irina (Hurrem): Then I was brought to a big, noisy city.

(Irina) Shows a lot of people. Very hot, noisy, people walking everywhere, some flies flying around. For some reason, she shows me many flies right now.
(Hurrem) We spent the night in a dirty hut at the port, right on the floor. Then we were washed (shows a girl leading her into a room and simply pouring water over her). They threw a white cloak over us and led us to the market where slaves were sold.

There were a lot of people there. We were led past rows where live animals were sold: cows, sheep. There was noise, sheep were bleating. As we walked past, I realized that I was now one of them, that I was no longer a person.

Then, along with other girls, I was placed on a platform. Nearby stood a young man, and my hand was tied with a rope to his hand, he was holding it. I was placed separately from the others, because my appearance stood out, and they wanted to sell me for a higher price.

Then men started approaching: bearded, crooked-toothed, young and old. They came up to me, asked my attendant something in an incomprehensible language, and started turning me in different directions, twisting me (shows). And their hands would wander everywhere. I cried, tried to break free, and this displeased those examining me. Then the young man holding my hand with the rope would slap my cheeks. Not with his fist, but like this (Irina shows) and shout something in an incomprehensible language. I understood that I had to stand still and not resist.

I stood there for several hours. It was very hot. They gave me water to drink only once, a few sips.

18:08 Anastasia (Hurrem) is bought and taken away.

Irina (Hurrem): Finally, a richly dressed man appeared. The others were dressed in rags, but he had a turban with precious stones. He differed from the others in his confidence. He walked through the crowd like a knife through butter. He approached, looked at me, exchanged a few phrases with the seller, and threw him a small bag filled with coins. And then pulled out another from under his cloak.

The young man grabbed both bags, laughed, and bowed to him. He untied the rope from himself and threw it to the buyer. He took the rope and led me to a cart.

(Irina) Shows a cart, like a chariot – a sort of covered wagon on horses.
(Hurrem) He put me inside and sat down next to me. We drove off. In front, on a seat, was a man driving the horse.

Maria: The driver.

Irina: (Hurrem): Yes, the driver. We rode in this cart, it was covered from the sun and very beautifully made of wood.

Maria: Did you know which city you were in? Or did you find out later?

Irina (Hurrem): I didn't know. I didn't know which city, I only knew it was Turkey, as it's called now.

Maria: The Ottoman Empire.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, the Ottoman Empire. It was on the seashore, not far from the port.

We drove for quite a long time. And while we were driving, this man groped me. I resisted. He took me by the chin, turned my head, and looked at me seriously. I saw anger in his eyes, and he said something very angrily. I realized that I could not resist this man.

20:28 The harem in Ibrahim's house.

Irina (Hurrem): Then we arrived at a very luxurious house, I would call it a palace. He pushed me into a room where there were other girls. He said something to them, and they surrounded me. Someone asked me something, but I said I didn't understand their language. Then a girl approached me who was also Slavic. She said that we were in Ibrahim's harem, that I pleased him, and he wanted to take me for the night. I didn't need an explanation of for what.

After that, I was led into a large, very hot room, something like a bathhouse. They undressed me, laid me on a bench, and several women treated me like a lady – washed me like a lady. The women were already elderly. Then I was led into a large room with food.

(Irina) Shows how they began to feed her, she holding some dishes.
(Hurrem) The girl who was Slavic, Oksana, was about 30 years old. She tried to persuade me not to be afraid, that the food here was good. She saw my condition and said I needed to please this Ibrahim, that he was a very high-ranking official. Then they wouldn't beat me, and I would live well. And if I didn't please him, I could be given to the servants who lived in the courtyard, and they would treat me very cruelly, and could even kill me. Because they themselves were embittered, as they were slaves.

In short, she taught me how to behave. And you know, I believed her, I trusted her. She even replaced my mother in some ways. In this cruel world, she was the first person in many days who treated me with Love.

When evening came, I started waiting for Ibrahim, but he didn't come to me. He didn't come at all to the room where we sat with the other girls. We slept there too.

(Irina) Shows how they spread out small mattresses on the floor. I would even call them quilts.
(Hurrem) He didn't come the first day, or the second, or the third. I started getting used to this situation. We were still taken, fed, and given water. Very tasty food. We were still taken to the bathhouse. But it was all done in silence, no one explained anything.

23:31 How Hurrem came to Suleiman.

Irina (Hurrem): Several more days passed, about a week, and unexpectedly, right in the middle of the day, Ibrahim entered the room. All the girls immediately fell silent. He pointed at me and gestured for me to come. I approached, and he ordered his servants, whom I already knew, to dress me in different, brighter clothes (shows her being made up).

After that, he led me outside, and we drove off somewhere. We arrived at an even more magnificent palace. That's how I came to Suleiman. He gave me to him as a gift. But this became clear later. He didn't touch me as a girl, because he gave me to another.

So I ended up in the palace. It was also very luxurious: large rooms, many rooms. I almost got lost there. There were many girls there too, and the harem was larger than Ibrahim's.

24:46 The life of concubines in the Ottoman Empire.

Maria: Which countries were the girls from? Could you tell?

Irina (Hurrem): There were already five girls from Slavic states, Slavic women. I befriended them, and they told me that Suleiman was the heir to the throne, and that it was a great honor to go to him. Every slave girl dreams of this. I could have been sold to some merchant, a trader, who would beat me, then sell me to his friends.

They told me many, many stories about slave girls – about where they and other friends were captured, how they were separated from their friends, and what happened to them. They told me stories of how these slave girls were sold to various officials, merchants, very cruel people. How they beat them, abused them, starved them, and forced them to service their friends. This meant sexual intercourse with several men at once. And if she didn't please them, served them poorly, or was rude, they would beat her. They might even drown her, kill her, throw her to the dogs. It was all very cruel.

So they told me, "You are lucky, Suleiman won't do that." And I even began to thank God for bringing me to this place.

Maria: Did you continue to pray and believe that perhaps a successful outcome was possible? Or did you become disillusioned and angry with God that such a fate had befallen you?

Irina (Hurrem): No, I thanked God for bringing me to this Suleiman. Because from the stories they told me, I was very scared that they might change their minds about keeping me there and sell me precisely to those men. So I thanked God for where I was, and asked Him to let me stay there, so that I wouldn't be sold to others.

27:33 Life in the Sultan's harem.

Maria: How many of you were in the harem at the palace?

Irina (Hurrem): Fifty-two.

Maria: Fifty-two concubines?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes.

(Irina) I now see a large room.
(Hurrem) But not all had separate rooms, only some, the chosen ones whom Suleiman liked. The rest lived in a common room.

Maria: I've been to such a harem in Istanbul, saw how the girls lived there.

Irina: And what was it like there?

Maria: It must be said, harsh conditions: stone floors, wooden platforms. A large common bedroom. Some indeed had to do hard work, serving the palace.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, some were servants. And some were simply concubines.

Maria: Yes, simply concubines.

28:36 How did Hurrem's life in the harem begin?

Maria: Tell me, please, what qualities of yours do you consider most important that helped you achieve your goals? Because it wasn't enough to just please Suleiman. You probably had to somehow survive among the others too. As you said, there were attempts to eliminate you. Or even poison you, perhaps?

Irina (Hurrem): I wanted to learn the language. My intelligence helped me. Because when Suleiman and I started our relationship, when he called me to him for the first time...

I remember that night. I immediately felt that I was just another slave for him, just another concubine who had passed through his life. He was older than me. I was 15, and he was already over 20, so he was older. And I felt that this man was very, very spoiled by female attention.

He didn't choose me immediately. I lived there for about two months before he summoned me. At first, he would come in and not pay any attention to me at all. He'd look, as if not even noticing me, and beckon someone else. How did he beckon? He would point at her like this, and she would happily run to prepare: wash and put on makeup. I immediately felt that everyone really wanted his attention. They didn't even consider themselves slaves; they considered themselves concubines, very important people, and they competed with each other – wanting to be chosen.

30:15 How did the Sultan notice Hurrem? What helped her stand out?

Irina (Hurrem): And how did he choose me? He often ordered us to sing and dance. We were brought to his large room, where he sat on something like a throne. He invited musicians, and we would show him our dancing and singing. I decided to sing him a song – our Slavic song – about parents, about the field, about my parents' home (shows the words). And when I started singing, one of the musicians picked up the melody and started playing it.

I sang, then the song ended. He looked at me like that, and stared for a long, long time. I understood that he had noticed me. Then we started dancing. He came up to me and said something. I smiled. He was very handsome.

(Irina) Shows a young man with a beard. Trimmed, well-groomed.
(Hurrem) He left that room. Then, by evening, he invited me to him for the first time. And it was there that he pointed at me and said that I would be called Hurrem.

The first time I went to him, I was very nervous: I didn't know the language, anything, what would I do? Of course, by that time I had learned some words, the most common ones, because I asked the girls who knew the language to help me learn it. But that still wasn't enough to have long conversations with the Sultan. I was very worried about how he would receive me: whether I would please him or not. I was still a girl.

Then I prayed to God. And I received an inner answer: "Go and fear nothing. I am with you."

Maria: The Higher Self is always in contact.

32:07 The beginning of the relationship with Suleiman.

Irina (Hurrem): I went to him, prepared. The servants helped me get ready and dress. There were eunuchs, guards, and a eunuch led me to his bedroom. When I stood before the closed door of the bedroom, I thought my heart was beating so loudly that the entire harem would come running.

I knocked and heard from inside: "Come in." I already understood those words. I opened the door and went in. He was lying on the bed. We looked at each other, and I realized that I had fallen in love with him. He watched with interest what I would do, didn't beckon me, looked with a smile. I approached him and kissed him myself. I think he was even surprised, because I was very young, and he knew I was a slave. Ibrahim had told him when he gave me to him that I was a slave he had bought from captivity.

After that, we began to caress each other...

Maria: She has such vivid memories from that incarnation.

Irina: She shows that this was her first experience, her first man. And she remembers that very first experience very well. Very vivid feelings.
(Hurrem) I realized that I was embracing the heir to the throne. At the same time, I realized how many girls envied me and wanted to be in my place. But that didn't scare me at all, on the contrary, I was proud that others envied me.

33:54 What character traits helped Hurrem?

Irina (Hurrem): You asked what qualities helped me. I believe they were confidence, courage, intelligence, cunning. What is cunning? It's the ability not to say everything you know, but to hide some things. Do you understand what I mean?

Maria: The ability to adapt to circumstances.

Irina (Hurrem): I want to tell you that a true woman must be cunning if she wants to survive in the world of men.

Maria: Yes, especially in those times.

Irina (Hurrem): That is, cunning is a kind of understatement.

Maria: You could say, to some extent wisdom – knowing when and what to say, and when not to.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, that is, don't reveal everything about yourself, and not to everyone. The ability to keep secrets.

Maria: Yes, that's very important at court.

Irina (Hurrem): These qualities: cunning, intelligence, self-confidence, beauty. And also faith in God. Because faith in God allowed me to feel His support. I felt that He was always with me, and that He was guiding me through life. That's why I achieved the position I did. Only with His help.

35:14 The experience of survival in the harem.

Maria: Did you have to be cruel or deceive, intrigue to survive or for the sake of your children and position?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, it happened. But it was always for defense, I never attacked first.

Maria: Were there times when you regretted any of your actions? And what were they?

Irina (Hurrem): No. I considered myself right.

Maria: You considered yourself right and did it to save your life?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, and my position. Because I also had to maintain my position, so that he wouldn't get infatuated with others. Because many things were said against me.

Maria: Gossip.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes.

36:02 Hurrem's conversion to Islam.

Maria: You are also remembered as a woman who managed to influence the politics of the great Ottoman Empire. We know you built mosques and baths. Did you convert to the Muslim faith, accept Islam?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, but later, not immediately. Suleiman knew I was a Christian. This was necessary to marry him. According to their faith, Muslims could only marry Muslim women. If he violated this custom, he could lose the throne. He couldn't do that, and I knew that very well.

When I met him on the first night, when I undressed, he saw the cross on my chest. He also turned it in his hands and asked: "Are you a Christian?" That was the question. I said: "Yes, I believe in Christ." I didn't hide it. He didn't try to dissuade me, didn't force me to renounce Christ, said: "That's your business." Very gentle. When the question of marriage arose, I myself said that I was ready to accept Islam. He was so surprised: "Do you sincerely want to do this, or just for the sake of marrying me?" I replied: "I love you and am ready for anything." He liked that very much.

And he called a mullah who accepted me into Islam. But I still continued to pray to Christ. It was just a formality; I continued to pray to Christ. And we performed the marriage, I married him officially.

37:48 Did Hurrem interfere in politics? How many children did she have?

Maria: Did you take an active part in his political activities? Did you give him advice on policy implementation?

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, it happened that he asked my opinion, and I gave him advice. But only if he asked for it.

Maria: You didn't show initiative yourself, only if asked?

Irina (Hurrem): It was useless to show initiative with him, because he didn't like it when people meddled in his affairs.

Maria: We have information that you corresponded with the rulers of other countries.

Irina (Hurrem): That was later, when I had learned the language well, learned to write, when I had already gained status. But at the beginning, when I still didn't know the language well, I had my own secretary who wrote from dictation. Later, I could do it myself. Suleiman liked it, by the way, that I was learning his language and alphabet.

Maria: Did you accompany Suleiman on military campaigns?

Irina (Hurrem): Very rarely. I stayed with the children.

Maria: According to information, you had six children.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes, but three of them died.

38:55 How Hurrem left incarnation.

Maria: Tell me, please, how and when did you die?

Irina (Hurrem): It was the end of August – beginning of September. I was 55 years old. I was poisoned by servants who were paid by girls who wanted to be my competitors.

(Irina) Shows how she was poisoned: a powder from a poisonous plant was slipped into her food. She says it was poisoning. There were some intrigues.

Maria: Yes, it was poisoning, murder.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes.

39:30 Did Hurrem fulfill her incarnation tasks? What lessons did she learn from her life?

Maria: Tell me, please, when you left incarnation and reviewed your life, you rose in level to eighteen.

Irina (Hurrem): Yes.

Maria: Can you say that you fulfilled the plans for your incarnation? What were these plans?

Irina (Hurrem): My plans were to become the mother of the children I incarnated. I fulfilled that plan. I had a plan to develop a sense of motherhood within myself and at the same time leadership qualities. There were several tasks. Yes, I fulfilled these tasks, so I raised my level.

Maria: What lessons for spiritual growth did you learn from your life? How do you see your role now?

Irina (Hurrem): The lesson I learned is this: even if everything around is bad, and a person is captured, finds themselves in very cruel conditions, if they do not lose faith in God, Love for God and for others, then God will still lead them out into the Light.

Maria: And in the history of the Ottoman Empire? Because with you began the period of the Sultanate of Women. That was also a rather important period.

Irina (Hurrem): That was a task of the egregor, it was not so much mine, but of the Muslims themselves. We were there together, fulfilling the task. My tasks were leadership, motherhood, and faith.

41:00 Advice from Hurrem to the women of Earth.

Maria: In conclusion, what advice could you give to modern women who strive for success in the modern world, based on your life experience and your spiritual realizations?

Irina (Hurrem): My dear women, inhabitants of planet Earth! I can give you a recommendation: always love the men who are nearby. Be grateful to them for the strength and energy you receive from them, for their support. Always support your man and be on his side. Always look in the same direction with him along the line of life. Always show him that no matter what happens, you will understand and accept him, even if the whole world rejects him.

This is very important for men. Because, despite their formidable external appearance, external strictness, they are very often tender and sensitive boys, children who in the depths of their hearts long for their mother's love. And a mother accepts her son for who he is. Even if he makes mistakes, even if he is going the wrong way, do not judge your man, the one who is next to you. He must walk this path himself. Even the mistaken one.

He must walk it, and you stand by him and help him realize the error of that path. But not with unsolicited advice, but simply with your love and support.

Maria: Excellent advice, a wonderful wish.

Did you meet Suleiman in the Spiritual World after he left incarnation?

Irina (Hurrem): No.

Maria: You never met again? It was the only such shared incarnation.

42:49 Words of gratitude.

Maria: Hurrem, Anastasia, as your parents named you, I thank you for this wonderful story, for your frankness, for your openness! It was indeed a very difficult life path. And you showed by your example that, despite all the difficult events, the vicissitudes of fate, you managed to walk it in the best possible way and at the same time raise your spiritual level. Thank you very much!

Thank you, Iroчка!

Irina (Hurrem): Thank you.
(Irina) Thank you, Hurrem! Thank you, Maria! Thank you, my Higher Self, for helping with this contact! Thank you all, dear friends!

I hope you found it interesting to listen. I saw many images. Very vivid images are shown by this Soul, this unincarnated Spirit. She has very developed imaginative thinking.

Thank you all. Until next time!

Maria: Until next time, friends!

45:42 End of video.

January 3, 2025

Conference participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations, with subtle-material civilizations, and with the Spiritual World;
Maria Sokalskaya – co-founder of the Cassiopeia Project, head of the SAKRAL online school, administrator and moderator of social networks and video conferences;
Hurrem Sultan (Roxelana) – unincarnated Spirit, wife of Ottoman Sultan Suleiman I the Magnificent, one of the most influential women in the history of the Ottoman Empire.